BD and SWS in same party

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Why when bd make dance, the sws is expelled from party, and viceversa ?
no idea what you mean
the mp cost for songs and dances increases with each one which is active
help at all?

Why when bd make dance, the sws is expelled from party, and viceversa ?



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Why when bd make dance, the sws is expelled from party, and viceversa ?




this is an auto function of the illegal program l2 walker. It does it becacause of soemthing like the bd and sws cant hold mana if the other is in party or somethinglike that.

but in a regular party that shouldnt happen o.o
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Why when bd make dance, the sws is expelled from party, and viceversa ?




this is an auto function of the illegal program l2 walker. It does it becacause of soemthing like the bd and sws cant hold mana if the other is in party or somethinglike that.

but in a regular party that shouldnt happen o.o



Well well well guess you found out a botter surge. Don't forget to report the party leader of the party you tried to join then. This game is better of without cheaters like that.
Heh, funny question, and even funnier asnwer to it.

Good times....Goooood times.
I've seen it done manually, but it is generally too much of a bloody pain for anyone to bother. >.>

(ETA: I was sure it was done manually because of all the complaints it involved, and because it was broken off after a while.)
OK, so what's the answer? And why would anybody manually kick BD/SWS from party when they need their songs and dances?
(Sorry I am not much around third program usage, actually not at all)
To keep more songs/dances up. For about 10 minutes, it seemed liek a good idea to keep kicking the BD while the SwS was singing so that the BD could keep four up. :p Then the moment of "ack, this is ******ed" settled in and it stopped.

OK, so what's the answer? And why would anybody manually kick BD/SWS from party when they need their songs and dances?



Lower level BDs and SwSs can't keep up the 5 "essential" song/dances in most parties for too long (hunter/warrior/fire/fury/earth(or warding)), if you kick bd while sws sings and then reinvite, bd never has the sws songs and even though the rest of the party ends up with 5-6 total dances/songs, for her it's like she's only doing her own 2/3 dances.

Lots of BD/SwS used oop or as buffpets aren't leveled past 55/58 and even standing in the same place, mp ends up being a problem if they had to do the full 5/6 songs-dances for a long time.

Eynel
With both in the same party they can each do 3 songs/dances and not run out of mp by the end of a buff round, without each other they have just as good or better mp usage doing 4 each (though there usually isn't room for 8 songs/dances). Actually kicking one from the party and re-inviting every two minutes!?! It seems like every one involved would get very sick of it very fast, besides the BD wants hunter. ;)
Thank you very much for explanation.
Hehe I can imagine, kicking every 2 minutes making many people sick, specially in the middle of fighting. Not to mention some people complain about drop/spoil distribution being broken then.
Yay for NCsoft logic! Let's make boxed BD/SwS better than real ones!
I box a BD (with my SwS) and I can assure you that it isn't the boxed BD/SwS'es that are better...
You mean the fact that BDs and SwS boxed out of party are able to sustain more dances or songs than live ones? Not only that, they don't take any exp. Sounds like it's made of win.
It doesnt make a difference if theres someone "behind the wheel" or not... Other than one more annoyed person (if they were kicked and reinvited every 2 minutes).

Yay for NCsoft logic! Let's make boxed BD/SwS better than real ones!



has nothing to do with boxed being better or worst.

Botters do it purely for the fact that item distrabution meens nothing to them, it's all about being able to stay at it for hours on end.

so with thier program they are able to set it to kick the sws or bd out after each time then dance/sing then reinvite, that way they don't burn the SwS mp too fast or the bd..

the program does it so fast that you don't any time between the dances and song.. like 5 seconded max give or take.

I know loreana said it best.(sorry to misspell your name)

But I'd be happy if they let to redance at 10 seconds remaining and not get the penalty....it's really lame that you can't do that and dancing over your other songs buffs takes up too much MP.
Again, you're missing my point. It's not about botters, it's about a boxed being BD/SwS better than a live counter part. Can a level 62 BD hold up 4 dances? No. Can a boxed level 58 BD hold up 4 dances? Yes.

It's not really hard to boot a box toon every 2 minutes. Macros allow you to do so. It's only 5 buttons. Invite macro, click other screen, accept, dance macro, other screen.
That would get annoying real fast. And a boxed BD is not better than a live one. You can do the same with a played BD, and thats even less of a hassle. Only upside to a boxed out of party one, is more xp for the rest of the party. Not a big difference though.

Again, you're missing my point. It's not about botters, it's about a boxed being BD/SwS better than a live counter part. Can a level 62 BD hold up 4 dances? No. Can a boxed level 58 BD hold up 4 dances? Yes.

It's not really hard to boot a box toon every 2 minutes. Macros allow you to do so. It's only 5 buttons. Invite macro, click other screen, accept, dance macro, other screen.



It's also not hard to boot a live player every 2 minutes, in fact it's easier. The party leader just needs a kick and an invite macro. The BD just waits for the invite to dance.