kill owner .. lol .. when he is surrounded by bigest ally in server. lol. zariche is created to PK and PVP not PVE .... so PVE with zariche is [censored]! imho.
kill owner .. lol .. when he is surrounded by bigest ally in server. lol. zariche is created to PK and PVP not PVE .... so PVE with zariche is ******* ! imho.
it wont .. cous owner PK own clan members to avoid vanish.
so he can keep it forever
Whenever the swords holder dies, there is a chance, that the sword does disappear. So no, they cannot keep it forever.
Besides that, using a game mechanic in a way, that the game mechanic was designed, is not called cheating. It would be called exploiting, once it IS officially called an exploit. Until then it is called smart, not cheating.
Mommy, buy me that sword ! That other guy got it and I wants it !!11
It's the timer that's cheat.
Some screen showed numbers like seven thousand minutes (left as sword resource).
It should have 60 minutes at most, imho. An advantage too tremendous it is otherwise. Oh well, an idea that came while drinking. They designed it while having a hangover probably.
Yep, as Kitten up there said, it is impossible for any clan to hold the Zariche sword forever. It has a built-in timer until it vanishes, and if you kill any player with the sword, the timer decreases even further (and to be able to kill raid bosses efficiently, you WILL have to kill some players so that the sword becomes powerful enough). So eventually the clan/alliance has to transfer the Zariche to some other player, which means killing the current Zariche holder. And when that happens, there is a chance that the sword simply goes poof.
And of course the location of the Zariche holder is broadcast via system chat, and you can BET that other clans/alliances will want to get that sword, simply to do the same thing. So there will be lots of pvp to get the sword - and the more players the Zariche holder has to kill (to defend himself), the sooner the sword will go boom. And with a hero or two on the opposing side, the Zariche holder is not THAT hard to kill.
Yup, Zariche will be held very often by large clans/alliances, simply because it is easier for them to get the sword from whoever finds it. But it is not in any way exclusive to them, because eventually it WILL disappear and drop somewhere else.
in the next patch, the location of the sword will be shown on the mini map. So the owner won't be able to stay in one place for long.
Yes, that will definitely increase pvp for the sword :)
I think if you get the sword, you should be able to enjoy it (and killing raid bosses easily with your clan/alliance falls under "enjoying it"). But I also like the idea of everybody seeing where the sword is right now, because that will mean more pvp, since after all that should be what the sword should be mainly used for - exp-loss free slaughter.
I agree Zariche has really unbalanced Franz, on the old servers it is not as obvious, but when people are running around nearly 70 after one month you can see it is an exploit.
Hero + Zariche = Raid Boss .... don't believe it?! watch this movie (http://files.filefront.com/EricaPvP7wmv/;5965521;;/fileinfo.html) then! a lot of zariche action in it at the begining (until 10:20; after just the usual pvp :p ) incl. one hero killing 3 or 4 parties of a rb farmer clan over and over again (4:08 --> 8:01) :eek:
so w/out another hero and/or a dagger/archer who gets a lethal strike it's pretty hard if not impossible to kill such a zariche user ;)
I agree Zariche has really unbalanced Franz, on the old servers it is not as obvious, but when people are running around nearly 70 after one month you can see it is an exploit.
Maybe the solution here was not to introduce it to Franz quite so early?
To the OP:
Still, it's not cheating. If I get the sword, you can bet I'm going after some high level mobs to get some crazy grinding done. Maybe even a RB if I'm feeling froggy. And if you whine about it, I'll use it to smack you on the head.
What a ridiculous thing to complain about....It's not like you don't have the opportunity to get the same advantage. I'm sure if YOU got the sword, you'd do the same thing.
The sword should never have been a PvM sword, its a PvP sword, it should have tremendous PvP offense/defense, not raidboss farming gear.
And this is why I am glad I didn't go to Franz.
Me to.
I fully agree, Zariche should not be used for PvE. A patch is in order here, even if it is to late to rescue Franz from becoming the most boring server ever.
well actualy now on franz .. one clan almost own zariche .. and they r going to hold it alot of time. and now there are players 67++ lvl witch did lvl up with Zariche ... some how i noticed that zariche drops to the most lvled players ... why it dosent drop to 1st lvl chars ? Oo ... anyway .. as on the other servers there alot alot of hih lvl chars with 3 subclases ... and power lvl of some guys did not bring disballance.. howere on franz owners of zariche .. start rule on server just couse they did lvl up on RBs with zariche ... and got a great drop from RBs (besides they kill 65++ lvl rbs) .. so they slighly can equip memebers wery good, meen whyle most of ppl wears top D quipment as a max..
dont u think that this is a little [removed] on server ballance ?
well actualy now on franz .. one clan almost own zariche .. and they r going to hold it alot of time. and now there players 67++ lvl witch did lvl up with Zariche ... some hoq i noticed that zariche drops to the most lvled players ... why it dosent drop to 1lvl char ? Oo ... anyway .. as on the other servers there alot alot of hih lvl chars with 3 subclases ... and power lvl of some guys did not bring disballance.. howere on franz owners of zariche .. start rule on server just couse they did lvl up on RBs with zariche ... and got a great drop from RBs (besides they kill 65++ lvl rbs) .. so they slighly can equip memebers.. and in same time most of ppl wears top D only..
dont u think that thi is a little [censored] on server ballance ?
nope i dont; the sword is supposed to hold great powers and the person/clan that manage to hold it should get a great reward.
think its a very good idea to add such a thing to the game; gives it a litle twist to the game..
And one more thing... I WHANT THAT SWORD :) :D :)
You don't lose exp from dying with the sword, you dont lose exp from dying from the sword. Although it would be fun to play with no matter what, I think that if you couldn't PvE with it at all, no one would bother chasing the sword around.
Showing Zariche on the mini map is the solution. No one is gonna be able to solo a RB with 30 people or more wailing on them. And if you manage to somehow elude players long enough to kill one, grats.
You don't lose exp from dying with the sword, you dont lose exp from dying from the sword. Although it would be fun to play with no matter what, I think that if you couldn't PvE with it at all, no one would bother chasing the sword around.
Showing Zariche on the mini map is the solution. No one is gonna be able to solo a RB with 30 people or more wailing on them. And if you manage to somehow elude players long enough to kill one, grats.
Exactly. If there was no long term bonus, it would be a giant waste of time. You can pvp for almost free with a clan hall and a war. .5% per death big deal. The zariche is there to pvp for fun and then pve for a bonus to your char.
I've read and reread the C5 notes on the Zariche Sword, and nowhere does it say it's "supposed" to be a PVP sword. This is the players' interpretation of it only. So if a player wants to PVE with it, go for it!
Is it the holders responsibility to go find PvP with the sword??? Maybe people should more actively hunt the holder (after all it is there for their potential taking if they want it). And why not use the bonus of max Exp while you have it?
That is how one of our clannies got it. He ran into the sword owner, a Hero, trying to solo a raid boss. So he walked up, stunshot the guy, and then popped some more arrows in him, and killed him and got the sword.
He held the sword for about 1 day, he got 670 pks with it. He tried losing it with another clannie around, but it didn't drop, it went poof when he died.
If I personally got the sword (which I'm really hoping I do :)), I would pump it's strength up and then lvl with it... why? Not because I plan to "cheat" with it, but because the rewards are in favor of PvE due to it's DESIGN. Not considered a cheat really.... if they add the ability to see the owner on the map, that would be really cool :) maybe even the spawn location when he is not logged in? Nah that may be too much lol
But when a PvP sword turns into almost totally used for PvM, something has gone wrong in the design.
He turns red. Go kill him. The pvp aspect is him being chaotic. It's your problem if you don't attack him...you're the reason it isn't a pvp item. (not you specifically, but those who don't chase it down and still complain) The sword is made for a server vs player environment, but its obvious clans are gonna work together. Get your clan together and hunt it down. The enemy clan has to go red to stop you, and if the biggest clan on the server has it, deal with it. Big clans have power, make a bigger clan or get several to work together. That's the nature of this game. If you're suggesting you want to take power away from clans working together ... and that would make the game better? I won't even begin to tell you what I think of that type of thought...
well actualy now on franz .. one clan almost own zariche .. and they r going to hold it alot of time. and now there are players 67++ lvl witch did lvl up with Zariche ... some how i noticed that zariche drops to the most lvled players ... why it dosent drop to 1st lvl chars ? Oo ... anyway .. as on the other servers there alot alot of hih lvl chars with 3 subclases ... and power lvl of some guys did not bring disballance.. howere on franz owners of zariche .. start rule on server just couse they did lvl up on RBs with zariche ... and got a great drop from RBs (besides they kill 65++ lvl rbs) .. so they slighly can equip memebers wery good, meen whyle most of ppl wears top D quipment as a max..
dont u think that this is a little [removed] on server ballance ?
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It's pretty sad seeing people PVE with that sword. However I think it's enough work once you get it, that you can do that if you want.
Why? What should you do with it? You kill people to level it up and then? Kill more? No exp loss, no benefit. The ratio of pvp to nonpvp with any bonus should be the same as without. If you had the opportunity to gain half a level at 76, solo some bosses for S grade drops, explore parts of the world solo, all in a matter of hours, would you pass it up? If you say no, I'm not gonna believe you.
And thats a part of the problem. It only works on servers where there is a healthy competition like Hindemith. Because people can and will hunt the user of the sword enthousiastically. However on a server where there is one dominant clan you will find that they own the sword every time it drops and start gaining even more easy advantages.
Remove the option to PvE a bit and the sword can be used for its true purpose: Random Violence.
Remember the leveling with big booms? Remember the killing rb's with pets? Remember the sitting on a ledge and killing mobs with distance weapons without any risk? All these exploits got the shaft sooner or later.
Using the new untested game mechanic Zariche for PvE is an exploit just like those examples. Why? Because this game was not intended to have easy ways to earn a lot of power without a grueling grind. Sooner or later it will get the shaft. I vote for sooner rather then later.
I have no problems with people using it for PvE, however being able to solo raid bosses should never be possible. I'm sure it will get fixed in the future, but until they do, many in the high level alliances will benefit greatly.
well actualy now on franz .. one clan almost own zariche .. and they r going to hold it alot of time. and now there are players 67++ lvl witch did lvl up with Zariche ... some how i noticed that zariche drops to the most lvled players ... why it dosent drop to 1st lvl chars ? Oo ... anyway .. as on the other servers there alot alot of hih lvl chars with 3 subclases ... and power lvl of some guys did not bring disballance.. howere on franz owners of zariche .. start rule on server just couse they did lvl up on RBs with zariche ... and got a great drop from RBs (besides they kill 65++ lvl rbs) .. so they slighly can equip memebers wery good, meen whyle most of ppl wears top D quipment as a max..
dont u think that this is a little [removed] on server ballance ?
Buddy, I have news for you, people are doing this crap WITHOUT the Zariche. There are "Players" playing 24/7 who level 1-70 in a couple of months. Not worth wasting breath crying your eyes out about a LEGIT form of leveling, when there are more..."devious" means of leveling going on.
I would kill people and level up with it. I wasn't saying people SHOULDN'T do that, I just think it's lame that you can.
And I know that doesn't make a lot of sense. :/
No, it doesn't. Are you suggesting going around...nearly invincible...and ruining people's exp parties in hard to reach places is more fun? How hard is it to get to a FULL, GOOD party together these days? How often do you get wiped...and go back for more? Either the zariche is going to gank your parties while you exp, unstoppable and maybe you'll drop items from overaggro during the combat, or he is going to level up and exp like you would expect a smart player to do. I'm not sure what you think the weapon is for to be honest. It's free pvp...with a win button? We complain about class imbalance in pvp being too severe but a superweapon isn't? Is it "fun" to decimate somebody that can't fight back? I play a LOT of RTS games, and frankly, I'll quit matches with a poor player because it isn't any fun to KNOW you are going to win before the fight starts. PvP is about challenge. This weapon, in no way shape or form, inspires that.
The Zariche drops...CONSTANTLY. The server is almost never without the sword. Do you want everyone to drop everything all day every day to hunt the wielder? Would that be fun? You guys complain, but I'm not really sure you have an idea of how it SHOULD be. There is a place for FUN FAIR pvp, the arena. There is a place for team pvp, the coliseum. There is a place for ally pvp, sieges. There is a place for gank pvp, the open pvp system entirely. What gap is this Zariche filling? The kill for fun gap? Killing for no loss and no challenge = fun? That's like...botting. Frankly, I don't need to kill 50 people to feel better about myself today, so I'm not really worried about it.
Well let's see. The weapon turns you RED, with a billion something karma, it gets more powerful when you KILL OTHER PLAYERS. You get a ton of CP so other players have a hell of a time killing you. The whole entire point is to kill other players (otherwise why does it make you red?) isn't it?
You're supposed to screw with people with that sword, at least that's how I take it. Is it fun to kill people that can't fight back? I dunno why don't you ask all those high level players that do nothing but smoke noobies from starter towns (back in the day) to RoD and Dion. The answer is YES for a lot of people.
it wont .. cous owner PK own clan members to avoid vanish.
so he can keep it forever
read about the sword and don't believe everything that people tell you.
there is a time limit on the sword before it is gone. then it will respawn at a some other time. It doesnot last forever. if a group of people want it and are strong enough then they can kill the owner and if it does not disappear they have a chance of getting it.
Hero + Zariche = Raid Boss .... don't believe it?! watch this movie (http://files.filefront.com/EricaPvP7wmv/;5965521;;/fileinfo.html) then! a lot of zariche action in it at the begining (until 10:20; after just the usual pvp :p ) incl. one hero killing 3 or 4 parties of a rb farmer clan over and over again (4:08 --> 8:01) :eek:
so w/out another hero and/or a dagger/archer who gets a lethal strike it's pretty hard if not impossible to kill such a zariche user ;)
Exactaly, add to that fact that most clans will be guarding him pretty heavily, so good luck getting through the clan and even near the Zariche user.
Yes, it's ok. Just kill sword owner and pick up sword.
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This is how it works.
Zariche owner = god.
That's it.
Just look around for videos and replays of entire groups fighting the owner of Zariche. 15... 20.. 60 miniutes go by and the owner will not die. On the Franz Giran Siege yesterday Soulser, the owner of Zariche of that time, tanked FIVE ENTIRE CLANS TRYING TO GET THE SWORD. All by himself. Everyone else on his side was sieging... while all of us chased him in circles.
What happens when you manage to take their 50x cp down to 0? Either their enhanced stats + vampiric rage protects them, or they simply BSOE, get rebuffed at the clan hall, and return to the field.
They 1 shot people without the sword... and they take a huge amount of hits. Should root, silence, or paralasys land ( and they all did several times ) the owner may still not die. I know this owner didn't.
The only way to fix this is to make it so that there is an exp limit to the sword, or that owners get no exp at all. That's it.
yeah, i got the Zariche while i was hunting today on Bartz at around 8:40
And with a hero or two on the opposing side, the Zariche holder is not THAT hard to kill.
wow, guess what? it's insanely easy to kill the Zariche owner if u have a hero! in less than 5 minutes, 3 heros showed up to gank my sword from me. they didn't even need all 3, just needed 1! 2-hit killed the owner of Zariche (i'm lvl 48). maybe it's just because i lost the sword, but doesn't it seem alittle unfair that a hero can negate all the extra CP the owner has? the sword doesn't seem to give a bonus to your actual HP, so why make it so easy to kill us off?
Those botted toons earn no respect from anyone. The weapon turns you red and deactivates the karma system so you can pk and power up the sword. Why power up the sword if not to be able to better kill something for PROFIT? If you are getting a weapon that does nothing but allow you to kill people for no loss/gain, frankly I would find the first scrub that wants it and hand it to him. Waste of time. I get 5 hrs of play in a week, not gonna waste half of that in the arena, not gonna waste half of that running about smacking people with a win button.
Yes, I know some people need to cheat and win at pvp to feel special. I have a word for them, pathetic. Should I add you to the list?
Where the heck did you get botting from? I said nothing about botting, or cheaters, whatsoever. Just because you don't see the point in the sword doesn't mean the point of it isn't there.
Winning with the zariche isn't CHEATING either, btw. It was put in the game to own people HARD.
And yes, add me to the list, I like being on lists. My main is a cardinal because healers are huge griefing PVP ownage classes. /grumping off.
Those botted toons earn no respect from anyone. The weapon turns you red and deactivates the karma system so you can pk and power up the sword. Why power up the sword if not to be able to better kill something for PROFIT? If you are getting a weapon that does nothing but allow you to kill people for no loss/gain, frankly I would find the first scrub that wants it and hand it to him. Waste of time. I get 5 hrs of play in a week, not gonna waste half of that in the arena, not gonna waste half of that running about smacking people with a win button.
Yes, I know some people need to cheat and win at pvp to feel special. I have a word for them, pathetic. Should I add you to the list?
I agree with what you're saying, but no need to flame Ellie. Personally, I think if they took out the PvE element of it, it'd be a noob weapon. It'd give these ******s that started this thread (who are levels 20-50, I'm almost sure of it) a way to actually WIN at PvP for once!!!Z0rz!!!!!
For the players that are worth a crap, however, this would be pointless. Why bother wasting time killing players when there's no benefit to it, and no challenge?
They made RBs stronger (probably to try and keep this from happeneing) but it didn't work. Oh well. Get over it. You get the same advantage if you get the sword, so go kill mobs and wait for it to drop.
Once again, for all of you who are still complaining about this....
well yeah .. fine... it is ok when u r 48 and there r Hero who came and kill u ... and what u r going to say about situation on franz - when owner is ~60 lvl .. and 99.99% of server chars are ~40 - ~50 lvl ... someone can stop it ? no! u should see replay of the show (if there is such) ... a sieg on franz .. when 5 clans could not kill 1 man! dont still think that it is over powered ?
yeah, i got the Zariche while i was hunting today on Bartz at around 8:40
And with a hero or two on the opposing side, the Zariche holder is not THAT hard to kill.
wow, guess what? it's insanely easy to kill the Zariche owner if u have a hero! in less than 5 minutes, 3 heros showed up to gank my sword from me. they didn't even need all 3, just needed 1! 2-hit killed the owner of Zariche (i'm lvl 48). maybe it's just because i lost the sword, but doesn't it seem alittle unfair that a hero can negate all the extra CP the owner has? the sword doesn't seem to give a bonus to your actual HP, so why make it so easy to kill us off?
ur funny...
1 hero (wich is most likely 78+) will easy kill a 48 even when u have zariche..
If there's no benefit to killing people, why exactly do people run around doing it now?
Zariche gives nothing in PvP? Uhm...find some warring clan, pk the snot out of them and make alot of reputation points. (don't remember, but I think the Zariche still gives reputation points on kills)
If there's no benefit to killing people, why exactly do people run around doing it now?
just to annoy other ppl and lvl the sword ....
Zariche gives nothing in PvP? Uhm...find some warring clan, pk the snot out of them and make alot of reputation points. (don't remember, but I think the Zariche still gives reputation points on kills)
4% > 1% > 0% in clan wars for hardcore pvp'er ....
and noone care about the rep. points u get from clan wars .... 1 points is absolutly nothing ....
If there's no benefit to killing people, why exactly do people run around doing it now?
just to annoy other ppl and lvl the sword ....
Zariche gives nothing in PvP? Uhm...find some warring clan, pk the snot out of them and make alot of reputation points. (don't remember, but I think the Zariche still gives reputation points on kills)
4% > 1% > 0% in clan wars for hardcore pvp'er ....
and noone care about the rep. points u get from clan wars .... 1 points is absolutly nothing ....
Exactly. Take away the productive elements of the sword, and people will choose a different route to exploit it for profit. They will find your hunting groups, pk the healer and a few dd's, while training mobs on you, then watch you all die and loot. I'd rather the zariche owner have better things to do. There is NO pvp produced by this sword, just unfair ganking. VERY few players get a kick out of this, and it's typically bots or 13 yr old kids. If the sword exists simply to run around ganking people for 0% loss, no productive purpose whatsoever, I will happily leave it lying on the ground.
Clan member has the sword for about 3 hours last week (Dam them that I didnt get it! ><)
She just went round pking the healers in : 9 players controlled by one : trains and watching them die & drop. She got about 5 Dark Screamers, I wonder why the daggers didnt equip them?
Who cares what people use the sword for? Seriously. I would love to solo a raid boss just to say that i did lol.
Any class can use any weapon for any reason, i dont see the problem. It's sopposed to be fun and diffrent.
So far out of everything I've heard of the sword: It seems like a lot of fun and seems to shake the L2 World at its foundation.
*points at the monstrously long thread about it being a cheater sword*
It's doing what it is supposed to...cause chaos :P
lol when i think of Zariche one simple phrase comes to mind:
"with great power comes great responsibility.."
so what people are doing with that power, is twisting it into mangled corpses full of loot and killing lots of raid bosses because they can. Still seems like an interesting addition to the game to me :P
Although, it might drop a bit too often for my taste. It seems that once it disappears, an hour later it reappears. So yeah, maybe slow the spawn time of it.
But killing raid bosses? Meh seems like an interesting way to use a sword that has power.
It stirs the pot so to say.... Just from what I'm seeing...which might have been NCSoft's goal all along....
4% > 1% > 0% in clan wars for hardcore pvp'er ....
and noone care about the rep. points u get from clan wars .... 1 points is absolutly nothing ....
Its still something, like PvP score is meaningless but people get it anyway for bragging. And heck, its also usable in PvP involving others (Pk healers or enemy strong players), sieges, etc.
Oh right, its comparable to any other weapon...you get 5 digit p.atk. are virtually unkillable, you do not lose XP on death, you do not lose gear on death.
Oh yeah, so very comparable to any other things in the game *rollseyes*
The only reason people are so hooked on it is because its like the lottery, everyone hopes and prays they can get it one day so they can get legit insta-leveling.
Well let's see. The weapon turns you RED, with a billion something karma, it gets more powerful when you KILL OTHER PLAYERS. You get a ton of CP so other players have a hell of a time killing you. The whole entire point is to kill other players (otherwise why does it make you red?) isn't it?
You're supposed to screw with people with that sword, at least that's how I take it. Is it fun to kill people that can't fight back? I dunno why don't you ask all those high level players that do nothing but smoke noobies from starter towns (back in the day) to RoD and Dion. The answer is YES for a lot of people.
ummm....
i only got to page 5 of this thread but im gunna cyberfreaktheheckout anyway..... YOU HAVE TO KILL PPL TO MAKE THE SWORD STRONG ENUFF TO DO ANYTHING LIKE YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT W/ IT!!!!!!! SO KILL 300 PPL IF YOU CAN W/O GETTING GANKED THEN USE YOUR SHORT AMOUNT OF REMAINING TIME TO GRIND/RAID/GO SWIM'N WATEVER
to be able to solo a raid you have to kill a crap load of ppl 1st and you have to be able to do this w/o getting killed yourself in that time when you 1st get it 2 or 3 ppl can take you out easy and thats if your = lvl if someone higher comes around its gone... everyone in server knows pretty much right where you are so they can hunt you down and take it... if you log they can wait...
if you wanna do pvp only w/ it thats fine kill the guy who has it and do so... if you cant kill him wait till its gone... then go fight mobs and hope you get it instead of sitting here in forums moaning about wat some ppl feel like doing for thier $15 monthly fee....
is the sword unfair ? YES
is it any different from the rest of lineage ? NO
i am a tank i can party and get my butt thompt for "ok" xp
i cant tank raids and hope not to die for "crap" xp (if not a loss of xp)
nuker = solo/duo for "great/insane" xp
Raid for "great/insane" xp (and in the case of a mixed raid drops)
2 shot ppl in pvp
Archer = same as above
Tanks and Healers are doin all the work DDs /asst yet dds get all the advantage... imo that is not fair
i could quit, i could rerole, i could shutup and accept the fact that that is the game that i choose to play... and if i really want a change in gamemechs i should have been on the developing team
Once again this entire point is so dumb it's making my eyes bleed just reading it.
It's a weapon. You use it to kill stuff. It just HAPPENS to be stronger than the other weapons in the game. Get over it.
Honestly...What's next? Nerfing Poles b/c they can kill more mobs at a time than you?
"Waaaaaah, he's leveling faster than me!!!! He's not supposed to use the sword for that!!!!"
/tissue Box is empty now. Time to shut up or get your own box.
You are stupid.
It's not just a weapon.
It gives you stats greater then all buffs combined.... and with CHs.. you can still be buffed. You get the highest p atk on the server. Highest M atk. Highest CP. Highest P def. Highest M def.
All high enough to solo RBs up to ten levels higher. Do you hear me? YOU BECOME STRONGER THAN A RB. Leave the jaded arrogance at the door and look at take a look at the facts. There is a lvl 69 on Franz within the first month of the server's creation. Something is wrong with the sword.
I am all for the PVP aspects... but using the sword to level up is [censored] up, and anyone who dissagrees is too stupid to be playing this game. Anyone who's been playing long enough knows that GETTING TO LVL 69 WITHIN THE FIRST MONTH OF A SERVER IS VERY VERY WRONG and telling people to get over it does not fix the balance issue.
Once again this entire point is so dumb it's making my eyes bleed just reading it.
It's a weapon. You use it to kill stuff. It just HAPPENS to be stronger than the other weapons in the game. Get over it.
Honestly...What's next? Nerfing Poles b/c they can kill more mobs at a time than you?
"Waaaaaah, he's leveling faster than me!!!! He's not supposed to use the sword for that!!!!"
/tissue Box is empty now. Time to shut up or get your own box.
You are stupid.
It's not just a weapon.
It gives you stats greater then all buffs combined.... and with CHs.. you can still be buffed. You get the highest p atk on the server. Highest M atk. Highest CP. Highest P def. Highest M def.
All high enough to solo RBs up to ten levels higher. Do you hear me? YOU BECOME STRONGER THAN A RB. Leave the jaded arrogance at the door and look at take a look at the facts. There is a lvl 69 on Franz within the first month of the server's creation. Something is wrong with the sword.
I am all for the PVP aspects... but using the sword to level up is [censored] up, and anyone who dissagrees is too stupid to be playing this game. Anyone who's been playing long enough knows that GETTING TO LVL 69 WITHIN THE FIRST MONTH OF A SERVER IS VERY VERY WRONG and telling people to get over it does not fix the balance issue.
Only 69? ****, he's leveling slow. True 'professional gamers' could do it at least that fast.
I'm sorry you guys suck at fighting him. Maybe there's a reason you're on the opposing team: you have no skill at fighting him or managing him. Don't come cry about it here.
Where are your tanks to juggle him? Between myself an SK, we juggled a zariche owner long enough for him to get frustrated, get sloppy, and killed a few weeks ago on Sieghardt. With tanks around, your zariche owner should NEVER be running away from you...he should be coming towards you. Oh wait...you probably don't have any tanks cause they're "worthless" in pvp.
Where are your daggers? Get them in there, get them to land their skills that reduce to 1 hp and bypass cp. A couple of them with some time will get it to land, and then all that CP doesn't mean squat. They're fast enough that at the first sign of him hitting you, they can move away. Conbined with the tanks juggling the owner around, he won't have time to target your daggers.
Don't get all pissy and complain about a tool that bring something interesting to the game just because you're incapable of organizing a few pvp groups.
Once again this entire point is so dumb it's making my eyes bleed just reading it.
It's a weapon. You use it to kill stuff. It just HAPPENS to be stronger than the other weapons in the game. Get over it.
Honestly...What's next? Nerfing Poles b/c they can kill more mobs at a time than you?
"Waaaaaah, he's leveling faster than me!!!! He's not supposed to use the sword for that!!!!"
/tissue Box is empty now. Time to shut up or get your own box.
You are stupid.
It's not just a weapon.
It gives you stats greater then all buffs combined.... and with CHs.. you can still be buffed. You get the highest p atk on the server. Highest M atk. Highest CP. Highest P def. Highest M def.
All high enough to solo RBs up to ten levels higher. Do you hear me? YOU BECOME STRONGER THAN A RB. Leave the jaded arrogance at the door and look at take a look at the facts. There is a lvl 69 on Franz within the first month of the server's creation. Something is wrong with the sword.
I am all for the PVP aspects... but using the sword to level up is [censored] up, and anyone who dissagrees is too stupid to be playing this game. Anyone who's been playing long enough knows that GETTING TO LVL 69 WITHIN THE FIRST MONTH OF A SERVER IS VERY VERY WRONG and telling people to get over it does not fix the balance issue.
Man...you're gonna feel stupid in a sec, noob. Get ready....
1) THE ZARICHE OWNER CAN NOT GIVE OR RECEIVE BUFFS.
They can only self-buff, and if they're a buffer class, they're going to have trouble killing RB's alone unless they've killed a LOAD of players.
2)You don't get that strong by just picking up the sword, ******. It starts out at a small FRACTION of its full potential. You have to kill lots of players before RB soloing becomes a feasible option. You would know this if you had any freakin clue what you were talking about. Good job proving yourself to be an idiot. You saved me a lot of trouble.
It is NOT, I repeat, NOT illegit to level with the zariche. People are going to hit high levels eventually. The fact that someone hit it sooner than you doesn't unbalance the game. That person alone can't rule all of Aden, no matter how hard he tries.
If you have such a problem with the sword, cry to the developers. Not going to do you a ****ed bit of good, though, as you don't even know the basic facts about the weapon.
Once again this entire point is so dumb it's making my eyes bleed just reading it.
It's a weapon. You use it to kill stuff. It just HAPPENS to be stronger than the other weapons in the game. Get over it.
Honestly...What's next? Nerfing Poles b/c they can kill more mobs at a time than you?
"Waaaaaah, he's leveling faster than me!!!! He's not supposed to use the sword for that!!!!"
/tissue Box is empty now. Time to shut up or get your own box.
You are stupid.
It's not just a weapon.
It gives you stats greater then all buffs combined.... and with CHs.. you can still be buffed. You get the highest p atk on the server. Highest M atk. Highest CP. Highest P def. Highest M def.
All high enough to solo RBs up to ten levels higher. Do you hear me? YOU BECOME STRONGER THAN A RB. Leave the jaded arrogance at the door and look at take a look at the facts. There is a lvl 69 on Franz within the first month of the server's creation. Something is wrong with the sword.
I am all for the PVP aspects... but using the sword to level up is [censored] up, and anyone who dissagrees is too stupid to be playing this game. Anyone who's been playing long enough knows that GETTING TO LVL 69 WITHIN THE FIRST MONTH OF A SERVER IS VERY VERY WRONG and telling people to get over it does not fix the balance issue.
Man...you're gonna feel stupid in a sec, noob. Get ready....
1) THE ZARICHE OWNER CAN NOT GIVE OR RECEIVE BUFFS.
They can only self-buff, and if they're a buffer class, they're going to have trouble killing RB's alone unless they've killed a LOAD of players.
2)You don't get that strong by just picking up the sword, ******. It starts out at a small FRACTION of its full potential. You have to kill lots of players before RB soloing becomes a feasible option. You would know this if you had any freakin clue what you were talking about. Good job proving yourself to be an idiot. You saved me a lot of trouble.
It is NOT, I repeat, NOT illegit to level with the zariche. People are going to hit high levels eventually. The fact that someone hit it sooner than you doesn't unbalance the game. That person alone can't rule all of Aden, no matter how hard he tries.
If you have such a problem with the sword, cry to the developers. Not going to do you a ****ed bit of good, though, as you don't even know the basic facts about the weapon.
Like I said, time to shut up.
um seems how you opened your statement so brashley with an obvious rude mistake on your part I find I should correct you on that and disregard the rest of your post.
A CLAN HALL CAN I repeat CAN buff a zariche holder . sure nobody else can but the CLAN HALL CAN.
now take the clan hall and the ability to port and bsoe to the said clan hall ... and poof you and your clannies give the sword 300pk's .. now you are ubber and they protect you while you solo rb's and get the rep points and drops ... then as the timer gets low you have the clan pk you and hope it drops instead of disapearing ... and if it drops you get a reset timer .... viola
yes my vote is NO XP for zariche or atleast Disapears if you hit a RB
Im sorry i was wrong....
i forgot to mention....
IF the sword drops to you
IF you dont get ganked in the 1st 20 seconds you have it
IF you make it to a safe spot
IF you can lvl it w/o getting killed
IF you have a clanhall to buff you
IF you are high lvl
IF you are a good enuff player to not mess up for long enuff you can get to a rb and solo it while your clanmate go red on ppl that try to stop you
Then the Sword it 2 Uber
get real guys Lineage is about orginization IF you can pull all that stuff off Kudos 2 ya
also... if you cant lvl w/ the sword or do somthing cool w/ it once its lvled wat is the point ?
if i cant fight mobs/boss w/ it ill get someone to kill me right away.... if i wanna pvp i want my opponent to take a loss.... if you want 0% pvp go to the arena
if the swords only use is to keep you from xp for a few days id say it would be more of a curse than fun... "YAY i get to run around red w/ no buffs and no xp for the next few days and everyone i kill keeps 100% xp" sounds awsome.... dont be lame because you havent had it yet when you get it your tune will change
aka you crash and burn when you use them(crit error)?
Never heard of anyone crashing on CH buffs. This happening to you? Nothing in the tech forums about it.
The current issue with CH buffs is that when you select a buff, the dialog with the NPC goes away. You have to talk again to them, click through the menus to get back to the buff menu and repeat. It used to stay on the buff selection.
aka you crash and burn when you use them(crit error)?
Never heard of anyone crashing on CH buffs. This happening to you? Nothing in the tech forums about it.
The current issue with CH buffs is that when you select a buff, the dialog with the NPC goes away. You have to talk again to them, click through the menus to get back to the buff menu and repeat. It used to stay on the buff selection.
Apoligies. Got that mixed up with people porting from seiges to clan halls...that's the one that causes the crash.
Once again this entire point is so dumb it's making my eyes bleed just reading it.
It's a weapon. You use it to kill stuff. It just HAPPENS to be stronger than the other weapons in the game. Get over it.
Honestly...What's next? Nerfing Poles b/c they can kill more mobs at a time than you?
"Waaaaaah, he's leveling faster than me!!!! He's not supposed to use the sword for that!!!!"
/tissue Box is empty now. Time to shut up or get your own box.
You are stupid.
It's not just a weapon.
It gives you stats greater then all buffs combined.... and with CHs.. you can still be buffed. You get the highest p atk on the server. Highest M atk. Highest CP. Highest P def. Highest M def.
All high enough to solo RBs up to ten levels higher. Do you hear me? YOU BECOME STRONGER THAN A RB. Leave the jaded arrogance at the door and look at take a look at the facts. There is a lvl 69 on Franz within the first month of the server's creation. Something is wrong with the sword.
I am all for the PVP aspects... but using the sword to level up is [censored] up, and anyone who dissagrees is too stupid to be playing this game. Anyone who's been playing long enough knows that GETTING TO LVL 69 WITHIN THE FIRST MONTH OF A SERVER IS VERY VERY WRONG and telling people to get over it does not fix the balance issue.
Man...you're gonna feel stupid in a sec, noob. Get ready....
1) THE ZARICHE OWNER CAN NOT GIVE OR RECEIVE BUFFS.
They can only self-buff, and if they're a buffer class, they're going to have trouble killing RB's alone unless they've killed a LOAD of players.
2)You don't get that strong by just picking up the sword, ******. It starts out at a small FRACTION of its full potential. You have to kill lots of players before RB soloing becomes a feasible option. You would know this if you had any freakin clue what you were talking about. Good job proving yourself to be an idiot. You saved me a lot of trouble.
It is NOT, I repeat, NOT illegit to level with the zariche. People are going to hit high levels eventually. The fact that someone hit it sooner than you doesn't unbalance the game. That person alone can't rule all of Aden, no matter how hard he tries.
If you have such a problem with the sword, cry to the developers. Not going to do you a ****ed bit of good, though, as you don't even know the basic facts about the weapon.
Like I said, time to shut up.
um seems how you opened your statement so brashley with an obvious rude mistake on your part I find I should correct you on that and disregard the rest of your post.
A CLAN HALL CAN I repeat CAN buff a zariche holder . sure nobody else can but the CLAN HALL CAN.
now take the clan hall and the ability to port and bsoe to the said clan hall ... and poof you and your clannies give the sword 300pk's .. now you are ubber and they protect you while you solo rb's and get the rep points and drops ... then as the timer gets low you have the clan pk you and hope it drops instead of disapearing ... and if it drops you get a reset timer .... viola
yes my vote is NO XP for zariche or atleast Disapears if you hit a RB
If the biggest complaint here is how the sword unbalanced the new server, then these CH buffs don't apply. There aren't very many people on these servers that have access to CH's yet.
On the older servers it doesn't matter whether they're buffed or not, there are enough strong players to take the sword from them.
You can't permanently hold the sword in 1 alliance by getting an ally to kill you and take it. When you get killed there's a chance that it disappears completely. Eventually the sword will be gone, and will have to drop again from a mob, giving any little noob on the server a chance to get it.
It hasn't unbalanced anything, it's just made a bunch of noobs cry. Lots of things do that, so I stop listening.
Ok, I feel it should be my responsibility to post about this to some of the noobs here making claims that aren't true about the sword.
Ok, one thing that seemed to catch my eye was the saying of "people just drop it and get it again," Only thing this would do, is just cause the owner of the sword to take the sword back to down to its orignal power when it is first dropped so there really is no benefit to it. The timer does NOT restart. Read that again if you didn't understand it. The sword disappears after its timer has depleated no matter if it has been dropped over 100 times.
2. Usual time on the sword is around 4-5 days or so. So once it's dropped, if the person holding the sword does not die, more than likely you won't see another one drop for another 4-5 days when the one he has disappears. So if someone has it and you know no one will kill him, just know in like about 4 o 5 days, it might drop again.
3. You know how long it takes to kill a raid boss? No one can kill a raid boss 10 lvls higher if they are over 60+. I don't know about the lower lvl raid bosses cause I've never fought one with it. Yea, on my HK i'm 76, I've killed a couple raid bosses with the sword when I had it over 300 pk's, which don't come easy i might add. It takes anywhere from 40-2 hours to kill one that is around my lvl and that is with clan hall buffs.
4. You think your ally can help you get 300 pk's easy? hell no, it can take up to even an hour to kill 100 of them and at that point, the sword isn't strong enough still to kill a raid boss efficiently.
5. Yea, you can get buffs from a clan hall, but with the clan hall ports, you are now restricted to only certain places on the map. Yea, you can port to other locations by other means, but I don't want to reveal them cause then people will start whinning about that. Sooner or later, there aren't any people to kill with the sword and everyone you see don't want to get killed. So if no one wants to get killed, might as well kill some raid bosses or get some exp. Also, kinda sucks having to run all the way from Goddard to find try and find some people in either ToI or any of the other lower places considering buffs run out in 20 mins.
6. Nope, don't get any points from clan wars, I know, believe me, my clan/alliance has been at war with most of the server.
7. "Zariche owner is invinsible" "Heros can kill him" This all depends on the class/lvl/and how many pk's the sword has. For me being a tank, I would say yea, I become as strong as a raid boss, but at the same time, my patk isn't as high as a bd's or orc. I think the highest patk i've had at like around 390 pk's or so was around 19k patk. I can take a crap load of hits that's for sure, i had around 5k pdef or so and around 4.5k mdef i believe, can't remember that well anymore. For me? I was able to kill 2 heros at the same time with that sword and then killed another one not even a minute after that without buffs I might add. For my bd friend also 76, he seemed to have a hard time fighting with heros though, so this varies by class and all.
So, with all this info, just stop the whinning and live with it. The sword is made to create a powerful being whoever it may be. I do agree, yea, maybe it needs some kinks fixed here and there, but not really. The only thing I will admit as being bad with it, is being able to use bsoe's. Any form of it really, such as: BSOE/Clan Hall BSOE/Return/Party Return etc.. Maybe put somethin that if someone has the sword, you can't use those techniquies. Yea, I've used bsoe's before, but does kinda ruin the fun. Especially if a whole party gets together and then when I see my health starting to hit the 1k lvl, i can just BSOE. Other than that though, all's fair >:)
Only 69? ****, he's leveling slow. True 'professional gamers' could do it at least that fast.
I'm sorry you guys suck at fighting him. Maybe there's a reason you're on the opposing team: you have no skill at fighting him or managing him. Don't come cry about it here.
Where are your tanks to juggle him? Between myself an SK, we juggled a zariche owner long enough for him to get frustrated, get sloppy, and killed a few weeks ago on Sieghardt. With tanks around, your zariche owner should NEVER be running away from you...he should be coming towards you. Oh wait...you probably don't have any tanks cause they're "worthless" in pvp.
Where are your daggers? Get them in there, get them to land their skills that reduce to 1 hp and bypass cp. A couple of them with some time will get it to land, and then all that CP doesn't mean squat. They're fast enough that at the first sign of him hitting you, they can move away. Conbined with the tanks juggling the owner around, he won't have time to target your daggers.
Don't get all pissy and complain about a tool that bring something interesting to the game just because you're incapable of organizing a few pvp groups.
Another idiot. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Don't talk about organization and skill if you never experianced this situation on a brand new server. You have no idea how onesided the sword makes the game. Whoever got the sword first lvls up the fastest. Whenever the sword spawns he, they take the sword again. And again. And again. Making the gap wider, and wider, and wider. Where is everyone else at? Lvls 40s-50s... while botters are 60s... and they is near their 70s. If we can ever get them down... all they do is bsoe ch... and boom.... an hour of 5+ groups v 1 player wasted. Saying it's our fault for not stopping them only prooves how little you know about the Zariche being on a new server... and you need to STHU.
Man...you're gonna feel stupid in a sec, noob. Get ready....
orly?
1) THE ZARICHE OWNER CAN NOT GIVE OR RECEIVE BUFFS.
They can only self-buff, and if they're a buffer class, they're going to have trouble killing RB's alone unless they've killed a LOAD of players.
Wrong.
And this is where I stopped reading. You couldn't even get the most basic fact straight so you lose noob.
4. You think your ally can help you get 300 pk's easy? hell no, it can take up to even an hour to kill 100 of them and at that point, the sword isn't strong enough still to kill a raid boss efficiently.
Wow... 180 minutes out of what, 7000? Which brings me to this.
Ok, one thing that seemed to catch my eye was the saying of "people just drop it and get it again," Only thing this would do, is just cause the owner of the sword to take the sword back to down to its orignal power when it is first dropped so there really is no benefit to it. The timer does NOT restart. Read that again if you didn't understand it. The sword disappears after its timer has depleated no matter if it has been dropped over 100 times.
You said it yourself.. it only takes 3 hours to get it back to top level.... making this fact moot for an instance that lasts up to several days... one that usually respawns within the same day if it dissapears.
IMO, i have no issues with the sword, it shall remain... even if i've yet to get it in game aside from into my cut with 1 hit killage.
I could care less if a player lvled it up and solo raid bosses, it's a sword that they are bloody lucky to get.
I doubt you'd be complaining if you got it next drop.
Had it. Was eventually one shot by one of their THs that where 10... 20 lvls higher than me. You don't care because you don't play Franz.... therefore your opinions don't matter.
And I will stop here. The only ones trying to refute what's being said are ones who don't know how it works on a new server... so I won't waste any more time on them.
By the way, on a new server.. he must have a crap load of made made to buy all those clan hall bsoes all the time. They're not that cheap, and I remember when i first started, 100k was a hard as hell to try and get.. aren't they like 110k per each form the clan hall? I'd have to look.
If the biggest complaint here is how the sword unbalanced the new server, then these CH buffs don't apply. There aren't very many people on these servers that have access to CH's yet.
But then again, there aren't really any people there that can take on a Zariche owner either.
The zariche camper on Franz has full majestic set and several lvl 12 soul crystals... all from the medal event. He also has a Kris and Dark Elven Long bow ( according to other people. I don't know for sure ). Overehcnanted DS and Emi bow for sure though.
How can he not have these things. He, camped the sword and leveled with it exclusively until the end of the 60s. Having enough left over for BSOEs doesn't look that bad all things considered.
There aren't really any people there that can take on a Zariche owner either
And I have the replays to prove it. 4 clans vs 1 person with Zariche. 4 clans that came closest to any other to finally cresting a castle ( one of our videos show us in the room fighting the final guards when we timed out ). They didn't even come this close. If the Zariche owner chanced the guards they would have the first castle for sure though.
That's where you're wrong.If the biggest complaint here is how the sword unbalanced the new server, then these CH buffs don't apply. There aren't very many people on these servers that have access to CH's yet.
Check the auctioneer on Franz. Most of the A grade CHs have been taken.... and the Tier 1 clans on both sides ( and yes, there are sides now on Franz) have them.
First of all.. it's around 4-4.5k minutes.. not 7k. Grats to that guy and his clan or alliance that helps me him lvl that sword. I don't know of any clan or alliance that would spend 3 hours of their day to keep going back to where the zariche owner is and get killed over and over again. After about 20 minutes at most usually everyone I know gets kinda tired and bored of it. So the guy's close to his 70's. So what? get the sword next time and just try to evade him and try to lvl with it. In the meantime, that guy probably can't really group with anyone anymore cause he's too high lvl to fight any mobs that everyone else can fight.. and too low to go fight mobs on his own. lvl 70+ mobs have some pretty high hp and fighting with a kris and dark elven long bow isn't going to help. Believe me, I know this, I have full IC armor, but only a +5 kris with focus to fight with and clan hall buffs. Killin those mobs isn't easy so I spend most of my time now on my TH till i can try and craft a FB. 4 clans vs 1 guy? of course, if everyone is lvl 40 and he's close to 70 with the zariche, of course he's going to kill lotsof you. Just lvl to get close to his lvl and stop complaining.
Oh yea, forgot one more thing, the sword becomes addicting.. Once you have it for the first time, you'll see. Kinda sounds stupid, but kinda does feel like the ring from lord of the rings. It's something that hurts to give up. Find it, kill with it.. lvl it... and then challenge anyone who tries to take it from you.
Woah woah...are you trying to suggest that because ONE server has imbalances concerning the sword...that it should be changed? Maybe we should change drop tables because the new server has an evolving market then. Maybe castle sieges should be different to account for the new server being low level compared to guards. Seriously, you can't make this argument. They have a teamwork advantage, make a bigger ally or deal with it. That is the nature of L2.
Grats to that guy and his clan or alliance that helps me him lvl that sword. I don't know of any clan or alliance that would spend 3 hours of their day to keep going back to where the zariche owner is and get killed over and over again.
They would... not that they have to. The people who come to try and get it is usually enough... though they are the first to take it if it doesn't already dissapear. Their THs are pretty good at taking the sword from anyone they chose. They did lvl with it... so they have the skillsets over everyone else. 1 Stab bypassed what.. 7-10k cp from the initial zariche bonus but it might as well been the max... as it one shot the owner. You make it seem like anyone who gets it will get away with it.... but that isn't the case. Something you should realize is that a good chunk of the server drops what they are doing and actively hunts the sword every time it drops on Franz.... until everyone find out one of the usuals has it and we give up. Yeah.. fighting with Delb and Kris might be a bane for them... but these guys ( they pass zariche between three members as far as I know ) always have the zariche. Always. And they are always on. The gap isn't going to be bridged any time soon. Not by legit players... especially ones who spam ss just to level ( I am not saying they aren't legit. I am talking about us catching up~). We will always be outgeared and outleveled until god knows when. Only time will tell whether or not the rest of the server can really catch up. GG if nothing happens about the sword though... on this, or any new server... should they come up.
In my opinion the alliance of the first one to get it is, and forever will be the one on top now that everyone knows how to use it. Why do I say forever? Because that's how long it takes for the server's base level to reach 60s-70s.
If they just keep trading it from 1 person to the next, that's kinda stupid. means the sword will have to get lvled 3 times. each one of those 3 times, you can probably get a good force to take the one who has it down becuase when you first get it.. it's pretty relatively weak compared to what it can become.
They don't literally pass it between each other. They do take turns picking it up though when it spawns I guess... Ive seen diffrent ones holding it. There must be some sort of priority though... because it seems like it's always the same people who end up with it.
And yeah... there have been occasions where we took it while they where "weak"... but you know... they BSOE CH/ Party return now so it doesn't happen any more.
Well if I got it, for instance, I would SOE to castle, kill a bunch of clannies in safety to level it up as much as possible, and then go kill things for exp, most likely surrounded by clan and ally and pass it off when I've had my fun. That's how it stays in the same group of people for ages (if it doesn't vanish).
Yeah... it's no problem on the rest of the servers. It's actually pretty fun/ funny... especially when heroes are involved.
Not so much on Franz though. Each day that goes by is a day the gap goes wider and wider between the Zariche farming alliance and the rest of the server. Competing is one thing... but defaulting/ playing catch up is another. It's a diffrent game on Franz to people who plan on doing anything meaningful ( aka non neutrals ).
Just when you see it drop next time.. run fast and get it first :) then leave the area from where it states that it dropped, kill some peeps along the way so it can lvl.. and then lvl yourself. There, problem solved :)
Sounds like the typical have - have not complaints to me. "he can play 24/7 and outlevel me, no fair!" "she has A grade already, no fair!" etc etc.
Agrees as well as with your last statement :)
Zariche is ment to be fun...if it kills you, you don't loose anything (I know cause I've been kiled by zariche already) and it's cool to watch how the owner handles it's agressors and the mobs...
Not happy? Get your friends and kill the owner and be the next to pick it up and the fun is all yours ;) (till osmeone get's you down eventually ^^)
No, it doesn't at all. The zariche was put in game on purpose, it is not an exploit, nor is it illegal or against the EULA.
Neither was regening mp on death, sleep dotting, dot pling, big boom/ massive aoe pling or blazing/ freezing skin on baby summons to solo rbs... but those got the nerf hammer anyways. I'm thinking this is on the same level in regards to exping.
Not happy? Get your friends and kill the owner and be the next to pick it up and the fun is all yours (till osmeone get's you down eventually ^^)
I love expin with it. You know what a great thing it is to lvl with it past 76? Still can't lvl crazy fast.. but can lvl about 3-4 times faster than i normally would. Yea, you at the new server see goin from 40-60 like "OMG This shouldn't be allowed, blah blah blah" but 40-60 is not that that bad in comparison of 76+ to just 1 lvl. I don't see anything wrong with people using it to kill raid bosses. Kinda sucks most of the time cause they don't drop anyting that great anymore... I've killed like 4 of the them and got only 2 orbs and like 43 majestic ring gems and just other low stuff... and for the amount of time it took me.. it's much better spent lvling. There is no possible way that anyone can kill lvl 80-82 raid boss or whatever by themselves. I was trying to see how long it would take me to kill the Silenos General guy on the top, I hit him for like 10 minutes.. i think it barely scracthed his HP, of course hes also blood red to me at 76.. so don't know what lvl he is. after about 15 minutes of hitting on him and it lookin like i've only taken out about 1/100th of his HP.. i decided just to soe back to my clan hall. lvling from 40-60 shouldn't take you that long.. y ou can probably do 40-45 in a week or so if you just casually lvl.. 45-50 in like a week and a half.. 50-60 can maybe take you maybe around 2- 5 months or a bit more, depending on what your class is etc.. so just lvl or try to just be the first to get the sword when it drops next time. I'm sure if you were on the other side of it you wouldn't be complaining.
bhodosativa i see your point completely, i understand the concerns in terms of a new server and what the zariche has issues with. The major issues isn't the zariche by the sounds of it though.. although i REALLY think BSOEing should be completely unavailable to the owner.
I love expin with it. You know what a great thing it is to lvl with it past 76? Still can't lvl crazy fast.. but can lvl about 3-4 times faster than i normally would. Yea, you at the new server see goin from 40-60 like "OMG This shouldn't be allowed, blah blah blah" but 40-60 is not that that bad in comparison of 76+ to just 1 lvl. I don't see anything wrong with people using it to kill raid bosses. Kinda sucks most of the time cause they don't drop anyting that great anymore... I've killed like 4 of the them and got only 2 orbs and like 43 majestic ring gems and just other low stuff... and for the amount of time it took me.. it's much better spent lvling. There is no possible way that anyone can kill lvl 80-82 raid boss or whatever by themselves. I was trying to see how long it would take me to kill the Silenos General guy on the top, I hit him for like 10 minutes.. i think it barely scracthed his HP, of course hes also blood red to me at 76.. so don't know what lvl he is. after about 15 minutes of hitting on him and it lookin like i've only taken out about 1/100th of his HP.. i decided just to soe back to my clan hall. lvling from 40-60 shouldn't take you that long.. y ou can probably do 40-45 in a week or so if you just casually lvl.. 45-50 in like a week and a half.. 50-60 can maybe take you maybe around 2- 5 months or a bit more, depending on what your class is etc.. so just lvl or try to just be the first to get the sword when it drops next time. I'm sure if you were on the other side of it you wouldn't be complaining.
I'll give you that. All of that. That doesn't change the fact that there is a group on the server who's skill sets are exclusively higher than everyone elses... it it will be for the next 3-4 months ( by your calculations on leveling speeds ). A group of people who can take the sword from whoever they chose... a group of people who will continue to use the sword on their own terms until the majority of the server catches up to them. This effects sieges immensly... which is my main concern.
Get the sword, trade it to an alt or 2box. Never log it back in. Or goto the arena or a towngate where you can level it up without risk. You can come up with more options than that I'm sure. Start using your head before your mouth.
- You can't trade it.
- Logging out with it is a waste of time. Literally.
- Giving it to a pet is wasting the sword as well as a pet ( the pet can't give buffs, right? )
- Guards are at town gates... and if/ when they kill you, you have a chance to drop since it's a mob/ npc. I am not sure as to their levels, but I am 90% sure they are level 60 and my accuracy would be to low to hit, and my nukes would all fail.
- You don't get pks in a combat zone.
- None of this does anything to solve the problem.
- You can't trade it.
- Logging out with it is a waste of time. Literally.
- Giving it to a pet is wasting the sword as well as a pet ( the pet can't give buffs, right? )
- Guards are at town gates... and if/ when they kill you, you have a chance to drop since it's a mob/ npc. I am not sure as to their levels, but I am 90% sure they are level 60 and my accuracy would be to low to hit, and my nukes would all fail.
- You don't get pks in a combat zone.
- None of this does anything to solve the problem.
Nice try dude.
Wow not too bright are we?
You've held the sword, you couldn't keep it. Give it to an alt (die for him) and log the alt out so nobody gets the weapon for the duration of the timer.
Goto a safe zone with a friend. (arena/towngate) Guards are tougher than they used to be, but by no means invincible, especially at nub towns. There are still many safe zones (entrance to the arena but not IN the arena) that you can stand in, jump out, kill, and go back in for safety. It's called gatehopping. If they can abuse personal protection, you can abuse environment protection. Goto awkward places (mountain tops, passes, underwater with KOE).
How can you complain in one post that "they trade it between themselves" and at the same time post "you can't trade it." You know **** well I don't mean use the trade window. Do it like they do. You aren't even trying to think how to fight it, you just wanna whine.
You've held the sword, you couldn't keep it. Give it to an alt (die for him) and log the alt out so nobody gets the weapon for the duration of the timer.
That accomplishes nothing.
Goto a safe zone with a friend. (arena/towngate) Guards are tougher than they used to be, but by no means invincible, especially at nub towns.
A 4x with zariche vs the melee guard and the bow guard. The damage goes straight to hp. Do you think a 4x can kill them in time? Do you think it will get any worth while spells/ hits in at all? You miss/ fail.... you should know that better than anyone else.
There are still many safe zones (entrance to the arena but not IN the arena) that you can stand in, jump out, kill, and go back in for safety. It's called gatehopping.
Worst idea so far....
If they can abuse personal protection, you can abuse environment protection.
This solves nothing. They are still the highest levels... and they will get the Zariche again. And again. And again. All the while someone like you is running around, logging, or planted in a safe zone... getting laughed at by the entire server.
Goto awkward places (mountain tops, passes, underwater with KOE).
What a random and totally useless suggestion. This was even worse than the one you mentioned before. What's the point in hiding it if you aren't going to use it. Bragging rights to say you had it for the entire duration.
How can you complain in one post that "they trade it between themselves" and at the same time post "you can't trade it."
Who are you quoting? I suggest you read again/ smash your head with a rock.
You know **** well I don't mean use the trade window. Do it like they do.
Unlike your suggestion, they aren't ******ed. They would rather use it than drop it... risking a dissapearance.
You aren't even trying to think how to fight it, you just wanna whine.
Yeah... running around in circles in the middle of the ocean is "fighting it".
How can you complain in one post that "they trade it between themselves" and at the same time post "you can't trade it."
Who are you quoting? I suggest you read again/ smash your head with a rock.
You aren't even trying to think how to fight it, you just wanna whine.
Yeah... running around in circles in the middle of the ocean is "fighting it".
LOL had a good laugh at those Bhodosativa.
Id give up arguing with Sithmaster if i was you, cause in the end, you will want to hit yourself in the head with a rock while drowning yourself in the ocean.
- You can't trade it.
- Logging out with it is a waste of time. Literally.
- Giving it to a pet is wasting the sword as well as a pet ( the pet can't give buffs, right? )
- Guards are at town gates... and if/ when they kill you, you have a chance to drop since it's a mob/ npc. I am not sure as to their levels, but I am 90% sure they are level 60 and my accuracy would be to low to hit, and my nukes would all fail.
- You don't get pks in a combat zone.
- None of this does anything to solve the problem.
Nice try dude.
Wow not too bright are we?
You've held the sword, you couldn't keep it. Give it to an alt (die for him) and log the alt out so nobody gets the weapon for the duration of the timer.
Goto a safe zone with a friend. (arena/towngate) Guards are tougher than they used to be, but by no means invincible, especially at nub towns. There are still many safe zones (entrance to the arena but not IN the arena) that you can stand in, jump out, kill, and go back in for safety. It's called gatehopping. If they can abuse personal protection, you can abuse environment protection. Goto awkward places (mountain tops, passes, underwater with KOE).
How can you complain in one post that "they trade it between themselves" and at the same time post "you can't trade it." You know **** well I don't mean use the trade window. Do it like they do. You aren't even trying to think how to fight it, you just wanna whine.
Guards are tougher now? I hadn't noticed, really. As I've said in other threads, I rolled a SH when c5 came out to replace my SpS (got tired of the mana and crap damage per nuke) and he hit B-grade about 2 weeks ago. He solo'd a melee guard at 52. Not AMAZING gear, no buffs.
Not bragging, I'm making a moot point. The Zariche holder would have to be a rather low level to be beaten by the guards, even now. Especially if my junk Ava robe defense was enough to keep me alive just by using Vamp claw + Hurricane.
Actually I wiped out all the guards in town with Zariche, heck, when I was going for clan hall buffs, I didn't even bother SOEing there, I just wacked the guards.
Where you 4x when you did? I am. And a SH too... with mixed ng/dg/cg gear ( karmian being the only CG I'm wearing, the rest being Oath gear... and a ng shield ).
Although I don't have Zariche now... I will promise to fight a guard when I'm still 4x and see if it's even possible. Being more than 14 levels below... I don't think my spells would succeed, and that my physical hits would miss... but that's just because I don't know their level.
Its absolutely possible. Before the guard boosts, 3x players could kill guards. You haven't even tried it and you're already screaming it's impossible. Gate hop, earn pks and level the sword, then fight back. You will have to use tactics and intelligence...I know this will be hard for you.
Yes, the biggest ally will get the most advantages. That's the nature of teamwork. The best team wins. Get over it.
Its absolutely possible. Before the guard boosts, 3x players could kill guards.
Que?
You haven't even tried it and you're already screaming it's impossible.
Do you not know how the level/ skillset system works? Not knowing is the only reason you would have to try it without knowing what's going to happen ahead of time.
Gate hop, earn pks and level the sword, then fight back. You will have to use tactics and intelligence...I know this will be hard for you.
Yes, the biggest ally will get the most advantages. That's the nature of teamwork. The best team wins. Get over it.
Its absolutely possible. Before the guard boosts, 3x players could kill guards.
Que?
Oh yeah, I remember having groups of 3x players in Dion killing guards for fun.
Nowadays the guards are all level 70. Though with the patk that Zariche can grant when leveled up, I think it would be realistic. Melee, recall, can use skills, which won't miss, and will be affected by the patk.
if you get the sword... your matk will also rise pretty high. i'm not sure by how much though or if you can even do any magic skills fast enough with it though. Never seen it on a mage before O.o.. well not one that uses matk at least.. seen it on a prophet though :) In any case, go to the monster track. Don't know how it is on the new server, but on hinde, it's always full and just kill people there.
Its absolutely possible. Before the guard boosts, 3x players could kill guards.
Que?
Oh yeah, I remember having groups of 3x players in Dion killing guards for fun.
Nowadays the guards are all level 70. Though with the patk that Zariche can grant when leveled up, I think it would be realistic. Melee, recall, can use skills, which won't miss, and will be affected by the patk.
They are still absurdly weak. Suggesting they are that tough is absurd. My 4x SH kills them around dion np today. A zariche wielder would have even less trouble. That debunks the whole "impossible" theory. So you can definately gatehop pking clannies to level up the sword so that players can't take it from you. No excuses left for you. Stop whining, you're wrong.
if you get the sword... your matk will also rise pretty high. i'm not sure by how much though or if you can even do any magic skills fast enough with it though. Never seen it on a mage before O.o.. well not one that uses matk at least.. seen it on a prophet though :)
It's not about M atk. You can have 12b m atk... but if the level you learned the nuke is 14 or more lower then the mob/npc/player you're trying to kill... expect failures of 1 - half damage each time.
Oh yeah, I remember having groups of 3x players in Dion killing guards for fun.
The first time I saw anyone fight a guard was at Aden. This was well after the boost I think. I have no idea how strong or weak they where. All I know is that whenever I tried, I was 1-5 shot to them until I got to 6x.
My 4x SH kills them around dion np today.
I used to kill aden guards during siege to get my summons. They where 2-3 shot easy. Not so much for my SHd though. I seriously doubt you can tank the sword and bow guards at the same time... let alone beat a bow guard by yourself at 4x. Fraps or it didn't happen.
Question: will NPCs talk to you if you have karma? I think they refuse to have anything in common with such a bad individual like you. Can you use gatekeepers when being red, and/or holding Zariche?
No. You can use The Dusk/ Dawn Priests as gks though. You can also use your CH manager to the full extent ( if you can call it that... they have yet to keep the buff window from closing every time you use it ).
I can post my stats again as a SH with the sword, but your matk isn't that high unless you've levelled the sword super high... and the guards don't have to go through your super CP so you can still get owned. I was 62 and almost died to a Giran guard, but the Schuttgart guards I could take.
I can post my stats again as a SH with the sword, but your matk isn't that high unless you've levelled the sword super high... and the guards don't have to go through your super CP so you can still get owned. I was 62 and almost died to a Giran guard, but the Schuttgart guards I could take.
No offense, but if you're having trouble killing a guard with an A-Grade SH, you're doing something wrong. I killed one solo just after hitting B-Grade. The Zariche would make them like a green mob. CP or not, it makes your defenses huge, and gives you a damage boost. Since your damage per spell is already excellent as a SH, the Zariche should make you quite powerful. Casting Vamp Claw with the Zariche would be instant full health, I would imagine.
By the way, the guards, I have since found out, are all level 80 now. This doesn't include all of the pixies/treants/whatever, just the ones labeled "Guard" "Captain" so on..
Yes, your spells will fail on them quite a bit if you're not A-Grade or higher, but if I could kill one at 53 WITHOUT the Zariche, then I imagine a B-Grader (or even a higher-level C-Grader) Could manage any guards with no problems.
Perhaps, I had 1632 pdef, 3287 patk, 2472 matk. The Giran ones will whomped. And this was the pts, so I wasn't in A grade, didn't have an A grade weapon, nor a SA. Avadon robes, and you can't use shot with the zariche.
It bears mentioning that 2.4k MAtk without shots is equal to only about 600 MAtk with ... and that's not, of course, counting the cast speed boost of the shots.
Nukers certainly take least advantage of the Zariche - although I do wonder if you couldn't just melee away and hope the VR works.
It bears mentioning that 2.4k MAtk without shots is equal to only about 600 MAtk with ... and that's not, of course, counting the cast speed boost of the shots.
Nukers certainly take least advantage of the Zariche - although I do wonder if you couldn't just melee away and hope the VR works.
A nuker with 1.5k pdef o.o
And why would you fight both guards at once? Pull one, kill it, kill the other, and cycle as they respawn. Your clannies could even help kill the guards as well while you level up the sword on them. Just don't attack clannies that are fighting guards. Giran guards are tougher, they vary from town to town. HV guards in Prelude used to be invincible like GK's. You could beat on them all day and they wouldn't die.
Kill the melee guard, come in at a funny angle on the archer guard to avoid getting shot until you're on top of him, win.
Nukers certainly take least advantage of the Zariche - although I do wonder if you couldn't just melee away and hope the VR works.
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Ask Nizzlkief on Franz. He was a lvl 55 DARK WIZARD in brig heavy by the time his zariche dissapeared. He started it all... too bad he couldn't keep up with an alliance built on camping the **** sword.
in the next patch, the location of the sword will be shown on the mini map. So the owner won't be able to stay in one place for long.
tell me how to kill the owner on a new server like franz normal players are max 65-68 zariche owner is 7x sws playing in imperial tomb lol
this sword is great on old servers like gustin but it is a cheat on franz
they use it in castle siege with a 75 warlock
i cant belive that nc soft want that they just should disable it on franz till a big amount of players is 74+
but powerleveling with zariche sucks and give the owner a big boost to big
tell me how to kill the owner on a new server like franz normal players are max 65-68 zariche owner is 7x sws playing in imperial tomb lol
this sword is great on old servers like gustin but it is a cheat on franz
they use it in castle siege with a 75 warlock
i cant belive that nc soft want that they just should disable it on franz till a big amount of players is 74+
but powerleveling with zariche sucks and give the owner a big boost to big
sorry 4 my bad english
At the very least if you can get a bunch of 66+ Warlords/Bounty Hunters/Warsmiths you can do Wrath, which because it's a % damage to CP, will deal absolutely insane amounts of damage to someone with Zariche. Of course it won't be easy.
in the next patch, the location of the sword will be shown on the mini map. So the owner won't be able to stay in one place for long.
tell me how to kill the owner on a new server like franz normal players are max 65-68 zariche owner is 7x sws playing in imperial tomb lol
this sword is great on old servers like gustin but it is a cheat on franz
they use it in castle siege with a 75 warlock
i cant belive that nc soft want that they just should disable it on franz till a big amount of players is 74+
but powerleveling with zariche sucks and give the owner a big boost to big
sorry 4 my bad english
I completely agree. RM and the rest of syndicate camp the sword then feed HUNDREDS of pks to it. Then whoever is lucky gets to go bot it up in a place where no normal player can reach without several parties...and even then they have people "guarding" the ent. NC really should have planned better w/ it on franz. Letting the biggest zerg camp it and plvl themselves is just BS.
tell me how to kill the owner on a new server like franz normal players are max 65-68 zariche owner is 7x sws playing in imperial tomb lol
this sword is great on old servers like gustin but it is a cheat on franz
they use it in castle siege with a 75 warlock
i cant belive that nc soft want that they just should disable it on franz till a big amount of players is 74+
but powerleveling with zariche sucks and give the owner a big boost to big
sorry 4 my bad english
At the very least if you can get a bunch of 66+ Warlords/Bounty Hunters/Warsmiths you can do Wrath, which because it's a % damage to CP, will deal absolutely insane amounts of damage to someone with Zariche. Of course it won't be easy.
That is no consolation. If there ever is a threat they bsoe and move on to the back of another hunting ground.
It's already too late. Zariche ruined Franz. I just hope my side can catch up in time before everyone loses hope and quits.
What I find funny about the sword is that now that you can click the CHASE button to see where the Zariche owner is, you can literally see a guy logged in 24/7 in an XP zone.
This is like a one in a million opportunity to get the zariche.. I would have been logged for a month straight just to use it as much as i could if I ever had it :)
on gustin they do toi raidbosses solo with zariche that means
on franz some syndicate members have zariche the 3rd time and start doing subclass quest now lol
isnt it a joke
we would have first subclasses in 2 weeks then and heros in 2 month i dont think it was the reason from nc soft to create zariche
the topic is about high lvls on franz using the demon sword and we are simply stating that there should be no high lvls on franz alreayd unless a] they botted toon or b] paid for powerlvling 24/7. so answer to demon sword problem is mass petition the gm's about the 74 lvl toons using bot program and get them banned.
the topic is about high lvls on franz using the demon sword and we are simply stating that there should be no high lvls on franz alreayd unless a] they botted toon or b] paid for powerlvling 24/7. so answer to demon sword problem is mass petition the gm's about the 74 lvl toons using bot program and get them banned.
well no. its to make ALL kills a lot slower. the sword drops from ANY mob, regardless of level. if the kills were very very slow, it would take a long long time to get 7x.
I would kill people and level up with it. I wasn't saying people SHOULDN'T do that, I just think it's lame that you can.
And I know that doesn't make a lot of sense. :/
No, it doesn't. Are you suggesting going around...nearly invincible...and ruining people's exp parties in hard to reach places is more fun? How hard is it to get to a FULL, GOOD party together these days? How often do you get wiped...and go back for more? Either the zariche is going to gank your parties while you exp, unstoppable and maybe you'll drop items from overaggro during the combat, or he is going to level up and exp like you would expect a smart player to do. I'm not sure what you think the weapon is for to be honest. It's free pvp...with a win button? We complain about class imbalance in pvp being too severe but a superweapon isn't? Is it "fun" to decimate somebody that can't fight back? I play a LOT of RTS games, and frankly, I'll quit matches with a poor player because it isn't any fun to KNOW you are going to win before the fight starts. PvP is about challenge. This weapon, in no way shape or form, inspires that.
The Zariche drops...CONSTANTLY. The server is almost never without the sword. Do you want everyone to drop everything all day every day to hunt the wielder? Would that be fun? You guys complain, but I'm not really sure you have an idea of how it SHOULD be. There is a place for FUN FAIR pvp, the arena. There is a place for team pvp, the coliseum. There is a place for ally pvp, sieges. There is a place for gank pvp, the open pvp system entirely. What gap is this Zariche filling? The kill for fun gap? Killing for no loss and no challenge = fun? That's like...botting. Frankly, I don't need to kill 50 people to feel better about myself today, so I'm not really worried about it.
you dont drop to mobs any more. zariche is therefore a quite powerful weapon in the hands of the correct people
for instance, a hero on seighardt had zariche not too long ago...
one group, with him in it, took out an 80 man raid group.
that, is what zariche is for
edit: i just realized you cant have the zariche wielder in a group. im expecting that the healers were merely spamming heals on him, and he was spamming cp pots, as they have no idea what his hp is at.
How many 80 man raid parties do you find? Can you stand around doing that all day? The sword exists all day long and there is definately not pvp all day long. Do the math.
IMHO the zariche sword must stay the way it is...
Hell, EVERYBODY on this game deserves that 0,001 % chance to get that drop and go rampage some RB.....
BUT
The sick stuff that makes zariche's owner being CHEATED is the mark that allowes virtually anyone on the server to go hunt him down and get the sword....
THE MARK on the map must GO...otherwise there will be indeed just that thing that all the high alliances and heroes look for ...this stuff takes away the fun from that little player has one day got lucky... (and might never get again...)
Zariche's owner should be the hunter NOT THE HUNTED.....
As previously stated a hero can easily take zariche from a non hero owner...
a guy 75 lvl on franz alredy(in this time most of ppl have ~55) and this is not without help of Zariche.
IMHO zariche mast disapear as only u hit the mob
no, only people under level 79 use the sword to pve. everyone knows you cant beat a lvl 79 zerg coming after you for the sword so stop telling people you can pvp with it.
no, only people under level 79 use the sword to pve. everyone knows you cant beat a lvl 79 zerg coming after you for the sword so stop telling people you can pvp with it.
no, only people under level 79 use the sword to pve. everyone knows you cant beat a lvl 79 zerg coming after you for the sword so stop telling people you can pvp with it.
Can someone translate this to english?
let me explain myself;
lets suppose i get the zariche sword. no matter who i am, or what level i am, i will be hunted for it. since no sword under the sun can prevent every ****** on the face of the earth from zerging me, i will not effectively get a chance to help myself playing with it.
unless of course i am some sort of uber toon to begin with.
i have gotten the sword to drop, and at that more than once. each time i have let it go, and not picked it up.
why?
those with nothing to aim for anymore (lvl 79's in full S owning aden rune goddard and hotsprings) all camp the sword.
But when a PvP sword turns into almost totally used for PvM, something has gone wrong in the design.
He turns red. Go kill him. The pvp aspect is him being chaotic. It's your problem if you don't attack him...you're the reason it isn't a pvp item. (not you specifically, but those who don't chase it down and still complain) The sword is made for a server vs player environment, but its obvious clans are gonna work together. Get your clan together and hunt it down. The enemy clan has to go red to stop you, and if the biggest clan on the server has it, deal with it. Big clans have power, make a bigger clan or get several to work together. That's the nature of this game. If you're suggesting you want to take power away from clans working together ... and that would make the game better? I won't even begin to tell you what I think of that type of thought...
For once I agree with Luke, whining about the sword being used for PvE is just ******ed. If I get it you can bet I'll solo as many RBs as I can with it before I loose it.
So many people posting, and so many people who also have no idea about how the sword works or anything about it
the only bad thing about the sword is that you should not be allowed in safe areas at all with it, which includes clan halls, you should be in "combat zone" no matter where you go imo
normal bsoe should work (because it dumps you in a very predictable location) but not clan hall, or castle soe, should not be allowed in any safe spot ever, that would cause it to be dropped a whole lot more.
to correct some mistakes here, the sword lasts just over 3 days from the start, if the original owner levels it up to the max level (10).
in the process of leveling it, until you reach approximately 72 hrs (3 days) you will lose 1 hour per kill with the zariche, after 72 hours are left there is no noticeable time penalty for killing anyone
and if you know what you are doing you can level the sword up in about 10 minutes to max level
So many people posting, and so many people who also have no idea about how the sword works or anything about it
You say this.... yet....
in the process of leveling it, until you reach approximately 72 hrs (3 days) you will lose 1 hour per kill with the zariche, after 72 hours are left there is no noticeable time penalty for killing anyone
Whats inaccurate? if the sword is fresh or near fresh, everytime you kill someone it lowers it by 1 hour until it hits 72 hours (it will say minutes, but it means hours)
I've had the sword 6 times this month I know exactly how it works.
"what if" or "i wish" threads are useless, I didn't intend to get into that discussion even though I did. The sword is what it is, and probably won't be majorly changed anytime soon, my intention was to clear up misinformation about it.
most of game changes comes from custumers discussions/suggestions. couse we pay , we play this game and we order the music.
zariche is the wery good idea - but with very bed realization.
like Destroer + Frenzy + Bow, i guess all know what was that, and only thanks to custumers descussions and suggestions it was changed. and IMHO zariche must be changed 2 !
THere are much more serious problems in L2 than zariche sword, and devs should concentrate on that and not sword. And since the owner's location is showed on map, its much harder to do anything with that sword.
Instead of PVP lowering the life expectancy of the sword, it should be PVE which does that. If anything, have pvp extend the life of it. I personally don't want the sword, but it is ******ed people get it and then hole away levelling up.
They definitely need to make it so the sword morphs into the weapon of choice for the holder. As it stands, its almost useless for a nuker, and even more so for a summoner. Archers should get a Zar bow, warlords a Zar polearm, etc.
so .... any news about zariche on upcoming new update of Lineage 2 - "Interlude" ???
couse as we know "developers" told about more demonic weapons .... so i just emagine something like Zariche bow ... it realy will be able to kill any RB from 1 shot ... or Zariche polearm ... 1 hit - 100 chars down ... :)
sounds like some people got behind the curve and didn't take advantage of it on franz like they should of and are whining now because they missed the train
Zariche is still broken. No average noob is gonna get a zariche and be able to farm raidbosses with it. If anything its just another lame tactic for the people who already ebay'd pwrlvled or botted to get ahead to get a lil more out of their monthly fee (sry for being soo sinister, this game is evil).
This reminds me of my early days of Everquest, some 10 years ago, when a weird item called a Rubicite Breastplate Dropped...
"OMG!!! that suxorzzz!!! she has ubah regen!! Wahhh!"
I guess what im trying to say is... okay, so some guy has it. Get a group together and go wail on him, grab the sword, kill your group, and go have fun.
i wonder what will be in Interlude, new demonic weapon i bet there will be some exploits on using them both. like to harvest antharas and other big guys.
howere i mention that using Demonic (Overpowered) weapon on PVE is Exploit, because it allows to POWER LVL, from 75lvl to 76lvl in 1 day . is REAL exploit !!!
it was created for PVP use but for now it mostly uses for PVE.
and adding one more such weapon without fixing this exploit is wery bad idea.
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p.s. about suggestion to make a party and go and get zariche. ok u made party went and kil bad guy with it. and now u have it what would u do with it???
answer is PVE --- POWER LVL !!!