at 76 a new grade is to high if you ask me compare to A
to upgrade weapons to A at 61 is understandable sinds you going to get a very long time with the weapons from 61->75 i personaly think it's to high level to be usefull in PVE
i wonder if i upgrade to S at 61 how much the accuracy penility still be to high for the usefullness
i level a dwarf 20 with a duel Dam*Dam to 40 without SS and fast 10 days time the amount of missing hits are easy to compisated by damage output
at least for any melee class
S grade use to be.. 67 I believe. I think 76 is fine though, too bad most of the sets are junk (no set at all for healer, for instance).
That's true. But that was back in Prelude, C1 when the max lvl was lower and there wasn't even B grade yet. I think they always knew there would be S grade and just included it in that Prima guide as a sort of place holder.
yes but B is cost efficent lot better to use then A
but S is cheaper in use then A grade to enchent a A weapon to same power as a S weapon request so much Scrolls,weapons it just cheaper to craft or buy a S weapon and be done with it
yeah i personally think S grade should be at lvl 70 max
the grind to go from 61-76 doesnt justify the huge gap between the different grades
guess it doesnt bother me too much since the only S grade i have is jewlery and i didnt get that till 76 anyway
Nah, S at 76 is OK. It should be the item grade for the really high level players, and 76 (the level at which you do 3rd class change) is OK. Or do you want to see every adena buying lvl 61 archer running around with drac/focus?
Yes, B->A is a bit too short (if it's your first character, you probably will have a hard time just to get your B grade set + B weapon together by the time you reach 61). So just make A grade 68 or something like that.
Nah, S at 76 is OK. It should be the item grade for the really high level players, and 76 (the level at which you do 3rd class change) is OK. Or do you want to see every adena buying lvl 61 archer running around with drac/focus?
Yes, B->A is a bit too short (if it's your first character, you probably will have a hard time just to get your B grade set + B weapon together by the time you reach 61). So just make A grade 68 or something like that.
I have to agree with kayo. 75 is a better lvl...you get lame skills at 76. (most classes) and no skills between 74 and 76. but the grind gets alot harder. and non ++ A/g weapon isn't good enough.
tho it was up till C3 that S/g was set to 67, then when C4 came and they changed it to 76 and added 3rd class. which was way too short between grades.
74 or 75 would of been alot better.
and B-A is fine, if anything A maybe at 62. but deffently not higher then that.
A grade weapon is pretty ok even after 76, exping with S grade is a bit expensive. S-grade weapon cheats in pvp, so its pretty good that it only could be useful for only those who got that high and for whom death is a lot to lose, not like someone before 76.
I have to agree with kayo. 75 is a better lvl...you get lame skills at 76. (most classes) and no skills between 74 and 76. but the grind gets alot harder. and non ++ A/g weapon isn't good enough.
A standard A grade weapon really is enough to grind at 76+. Sure, you are not UBER powerful, but then why should everybody be? S grade weapons/armor are the ultimate things in game apart from epic boss jewelry, it SHOULD be hard to get them and take a lot of lvling to get to the level to use them. And I really like that you get S grade mastery at the same time that you qualify for 3rd class change.
i admite some weapons are not for 61 like bow's but what about a polearm their is no usefull polearm from 61 to 75 the Halberd is to weak but good SA but to be efficent you need to enchent it to +10 witch is Very costy or Tallum Glaive witch it's to costy for the SA witch is useless
only option i see for 61 polearm users is to get a Saints Spear with ether Haste or Health it's the most cheapest investment for them compare to upgrade A
LOTS of class's got options to bypass A or even S weapons but you cant posabily kill a mob at your level with only Lance if it's not crazyed enchent witch most likely cost more then a Saints spear also
i admite some weapons are not for 61 like bow's but what about a polearm their is no usefull polearm from 61 to 75 the Halberd is to weak but good SA but to be efficent you need to enchent it to +10 witch is Very costy or Tallum Glaive witch it's to costy for the SA witch is useless
only option i see for 61 polearm users is to get a Saints Spear with ether Haste or Health it's the most cheapest investment for them compare to upgrade A
LOTS of class's got options to bypass A or even S weapons but you cant posabily kill a mob at your level with only Lance if it's not crazyed enchent witch most likely cost more then a Saints spear also
LOL. some people like you are really making my day...A weapon that is not +10 does 0 damage you say?
A Tallum Glaive gets the job done, even if it is only +3.
i admite some weapons are not for 61 like bow's but what about a polearm their is no usefull polearm from 61 to 75 the Halberd is to weak but good SA but to be efficent you need to enchent it to +10 witch is Very costy or Tallum Glaive witch it's to costy for the SA witch is useless
only option i see for 61 polearm users is to get a Saints Spear with ether Haste or Health it's the most cheapest investment for them compare to upgrade A
LOTS of class's got options to bypass A or even S weapons but you cant posabily kill a mob at your level with only Lance if it's not crazyed enchent witch most likely cost more then a Saints spear also
LOL. some people like you are really making my day...A weapon that is not +10 does 0 damage you say?
A Tallum Glaive gets the job done, even if it is only +3.
/agree.
I have a tallum glaive tho, I got it from a raid drop from a clan I used to be in. It has wide blow now.. thanks to the medals.
i dont get rich from Abone sister or the 1 iron i get from sertain npcs while you pump in for 1500 adena's in it O yeah manor system Riiiiiight
Can I get a translation please? This hurts. :confused:
I dont get rich of the 1 A bone or 1 Iron Ore I get from killing certain mobs while you pump in 1.5k (shots, potions whatever). And oh yes manor system? O Really...
/translation
Guess, me as sister does a better job then you then...
hmm i wonder what the bots are doing in this game then
Economics if the whas so superb like you think it is
lets see 90% of all the players have Ebayed their Adena's
wonder whats that whas for then?
hmm i wonder what the bots are doing in this game then
Economics if the whas so superb like you think it is
lets see 90% of all the players have Ebayed their Adena's
wonder whats that whas for then?
Out of game adena selling is because people want to be uber and avoid the big grinding game L II is, so that they can own lower lvl players with an overenchanted Draconic/Focus.
And at the same time they shout while they die because of guards while trying to get into town, and wonder if 26M for a +8 Mithril Dagger is a sweet price.
hmm tell me how the hell is a newbie EVER going to get a Mithril dagger +0 what cost +- 3,2 mil adena's
when he is 40 +- he have most likely around 1,5 mil adena's
without useing SS other he only most likely have around 750K adena's
the guy with the Draconic/focused bow most likely ebayed his stuff or whas useing highly EO weapons witch considerable lower cost's to kill never forget with money you created money
hmm tell me how the hell is a newbie EVER going to get a Mithril dagger +0 what cost +- 3,2 mil adena's
when he is 40 +- he have most likely around 1,5 mil adena's
without useing SS other he only most likely have around 750K adena's
the guy with the Draconic/focused bow most likely ebayed his stuff or whas useing highly EO weapons witch considerable lower cost's to kill never forget with money you created money
A lvl 20 char can have 2M out of the manor to be invested in D grade...just go to Franz and look for yourself. At 20 they enter an academy (ok not on Franz cause I dont think there are lvl 5 clans already) and their armour is set, so only investing in weaponry.
Maybe, just maybe, you will see there is another way to use your adena's then the one you were using all the time.
hmm tell me how the hell is a newbie EVER going to get a Mithril dagger +0 what cost +- 3,2 mil adena's
when he is 40 +- he have most likely around 1,5 mil adena's
without useing SS other he only most likely have around 750K adena's
the guy with the Draconic/focused bow most likely ebayed his stuff or whas useing highly EO weapons witch considerable lower cost's to kill never forget with money you created money
You soooo did not get what Orvieta was Sarcastically trying to say on your previous reply.
All you said after that she knows :) and so does the rest of this community who has some common sence. And please...we all learned to use the space bar of a keyboard to make paragraphes more readable as well as common knowledge of punctuations. Half your posts are a riddle to read...
Seeding. You can make 300k per evening hunt at least doing those stupid dark codas for those stupid stems, seeds that noone bothers with because they give - stems. Yet stems go 200-300a sell shop in Giran on my server. Not to mention seeds like Blue coda (skins, cr. leather), Red coda (Ori Ore), ... they are well within newbie range.
Also by the time you go for D you can have your armour and weapon upgraded by NPC. Armour is few ten thousands, but top NG weapon itself is 200-250k.
Also spoiler: there are mobs that give animal skins, iron ore, varnish etc, and they are easy to kill (been there done that).
Seeding. You can make 300k per evening hunt at least doing those stupid dark codas for those stupid stems, seeds that noone bothers with because they give - stems. Yet stems go 200-300a sell shop in Giran on my server. Not to mention seeds like Blue coda (skins, cr. leather), Red coda (Ori Ore), ... they are well within newbie range.
Also by the time you go for D you can have your armour and weapon upgraded by NPC. Armour is few ten thousands, but top NG weapon itself is 200-250k.
Indeed ^^ a very good way to make some cash flow and if you have the patience and do the markets you can even double those amounts...But you need patience ^^
hmm no thing whas Orvieta dont agreed a high Enchent weapon dont gives more profit
no you dont need a A weapon at 61 you can also just use D but the SS cost's and the amount of npc's you kill reduse a LOT witch also gives lower amount of adena's a hour
also clames a Tallum Glaive +3 get's the job done
but why get a Tallum Glaive if you can might as well buy a Saint spear sinds the cost's are almost the same