BISHOP Equipment? n other ?s =P

Hey everyone... :p
I have a 60 bishop on bartz with BW robe set, SoES w/ btb SA and wanted to know some other bishops' opinions on A grade equipment to use.

1st- Which is the best for a A-grade staff? Branch of the Mother w/ Conversion SA... or Dasparion's Staff w/ mana up SA? If neither one then whats the best?

2nd- What should i do for A grade robes? Ive heard most stay in BW robes bc they are still better then A grade robes? So i was wondering if i should stay in BW through A-grade OR are the A-grade robes actually better?

ANY info greatly appreciated.

MANY thanks!
Vicii- 60 Bishop
Exstasy- 60 SK

the reason they say BW is better is cause of MP regen.

I've been going tho this with my SE recently.

apperently MP regen on BW is higher then tallum. cast speed is much better on tallum then BW or mejestic.

But mp regen on mejestic is mucher high but is more expencive.
how ever the rez + is boosted much more from +wit bonus you get out of BW then mejestic.

you don't get the ++ wit out of mejestic just the regen rate, which makes BW better. and cast speed is a bit less but you can make up for that with acumen weapon SA.

you don't have to have top A for a healer, infact I'd go with a cheeper vahalla or wizards tear(top B). the cost of A bsps is alot more then the cost of B bsps. not tomention that have to buy spirit ore and carry Bsps.

i would say f you have the cash, grab a majestic set. soes is fine to keep, and i want to ask you just one thing:

why BTB sa? does btb stack with body of avatar? i thought it didnt.

i would say f you have the cash, grab a majestic set. soes is fine to keep, and i want to ask you just one thing:

why BTB sa? does btb stack with body of avatar? i thought it didnt.

it don't... and it's traget basied to.

BtB SA on a bishop is not very smart...cause every time they heal it has a rather large chance to reset the buff on the person throwing off the normal buffs.

mana up or acumen is much better. and I'd just go with acumen over mana up.

So BW seems to be the best. With A grade robes not a big enough upgrade to spend that kind adena. But with not worrying about adena what staff with what SA would be the best for a bishop?

So BW seems to be the best. With A grade robes not a big enough upgrade to spend that kind adena. But with not worrying about adena what staff with what SA would be the best for a bishop?

drop the staff.

get a mage sword, vahalla or wizards tear. get acumen on it.

sell the SoES.

get a shield.. NM is best for A/g and cost about 7m give or take.

and looks good to.

well as a bishop wouldnt i want more mana so i can heal more times? I mean the buffs/BW should have enough casting speed to get heals off in plenty of time. Just was wondering what faster casting speed for a bishop would do over more mana for more heals?

I personally wouldn't do +4 wit - 4 men on a PP. but I would on a healer.

A SE takes no hit to the MP pool when they do +4 wit.

a bishop will take a hit to the MP pool.. but as a healer your not supoused to stand the whole time.

I don't see how this is a problem, you want to cast faster...not casting fast will get someone killed at some point.

but if you want the responcibility of getting a party member, clanie, or ally killed thats on your shoulders.

I hate it when someone dies that I was supposed to heal...makes me feel bad...cause I didn't do my job that I took to be my job in the game and in the party.

Its a question of your playstyle I guess. More PvP or PvE? Small or big groups? AoE or single target? Are your mates around your lvl or are they higher/lower?

As for the Robe, there are like 4 choices: BW, Tallum, DC or Majestic.

BW as it got +3 wit, is good for your rez, but thats all. BW is kind of a Majestic prototype ^.^

Tallum is good for castspeed (+~25%) and your rez, it got wit +2. It also adds 8% mdef, makes you stronger against nukers. Downside is, it does -2 int. If ya got a cheap weapon your matk is really low then and your bad in PvP.

DC is similar to Tallum, difference is, it gives 8% pdef instead of mdef, making you stronger against archer/melee. It also does -2 men instead of -2 int, lowering your mpregen/mppool/mdef, but no PvP downside (well, your faster down ^^)

Majestic is the "new" BW. 8% mpregen and +1 men gives ya quite nice mpregen. As Top A Robe you got the most extra mp and +240mp bonus. +50% stun resist are also extreme usefull since a stuned healer can kill his party. Downside is int -1, but thats the best compared to -2 int on tallum/bw. 2nd downside is: No +wit. No increase in % for your rez skill.

As for a weapon, there are lots of good ones. As SA there are the best options I think Acumen or Mana Up. I suggest Acumen, since its usefull in PvP and PvE, Mana Up just if ya run out of mp all the time. But since you use a SoES /BtB I guess you know how to manage your mp. Basicly, I suggest useing Homu , Wizards Tear or SoM. The weapons matk dont make you heal extreme more, so this is a PvP question. If ya wanne use sleep/mana burn on enemys usefull, take SoM. If ya do more PvE take Homu since its cheap or Wizards Tear, that gives a good mix of quite good matk and cheap use (3*CbSpS ~300adena, 1*BbSpS ~220 adena, 1*AbSpS ~325adena, depens on the crystal/ore price on your server).

All 3 are 1H Swords, so get a shield, either NM or DC, take what looks best in your opinion.

As for Dyes, I suggest take +4con -5str, +4 dex -5str (both come cheap from magicshops) and +4wit -4men (mammon) or +4com -5str, +4wit -4men and +1wit -1men.


I personally would go with Majestic Robe, +4wit +4con +4 dex and a SoM Acumen/NM Shield.

If ya wanne know what wit does to your rez:
http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php?...e=0&fpart=1 (http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=spoiler&Number=401548&pag e=0&fpart=1)

IMO conversion is where its at. You are a healer and a pvp healer. Your rezzes will also be needed on the battlefield. Bishops get targetted and if you are targetted you are dead with 30% less hp or 30% more hp. You need cast speed robes like bw and it will help even more with your rez. IMO conversion and cast speed robes of any kind not acumen sa.

Conversion is too dangerous for pvp. You can't be 1-shotted by crit if you have full CP and MP and no conversion. You can be 1-shotted if you have conversion.
Also hp pool comes handy if someone attacks you in pvp. That is, 1-2 attackers are no threat for bishop spamming GBH if bishop has some reserve of hp. Note that you have to have some reserve for you heals to be effective. If archer 2-shots you, you won't survive 2 archers even though your healing speed is enough to cover the damage.
Most pvp-oriented bishops wear some sort of sword/blunt with acumen or even health SA, and +CON tatoos. You have really slight chance to survive if you have conversion. Even though you'd have more mana for a short period of time, you'll be dropped before this mana will help you.
Pvp rarely lasts long enough to drain your mana pull. There are exceptions like mass pvp without rushes, but they mostly include a lot of rezzes.

You seriously dont want conversin in PvP. And BW isnt a castspeed robe (it is, but not in this case). What class do ya play?

Bishop and Prophet are similar from the stats, and as Prophet I can tell ya full buffed im at 7.5k+ HP+CP, 800+ pdef and 1300+mdef. No health SA. Bishops shouldnt be that different, and with GBH noone will ever kill him as he got mp. Maybe on Sieges hen really lots of ppl target him, but thats it.

77 Cardinal here:

Weapon:

C grade staff w/ mp up, why? Because you will need more mp than cast speed. Do not listen to SE's or Prophets on how to set up your character, they dont have our heals. You can go with acumen or mp up, whatever your favorite style is. In pvp, you will never really use normal heals anyhow, just GBH as the dd's don't know how to run to the healer when getting owned. So more mp = more heals. Acumen SA won't help GBH that much. If you want to waste the adena for A grade, go for it, but it's a waste as you can spend the same amount for a ++ C grade weapon with mp up and obtain the same Matck for the crowd controlling you do.

Armor:

I have Majestic for pve and pvp. Anti stun is a life saver on the healer. BW REGEN SUCKS, experiment with it and you will see what I am talking about. Yes, it says mp regen +5.24%, but it also -1 men, losing 2% on regen, netting you 3.24%. The Majestic is +1 men, and +8% regen. Keep the bw for rezzing in special individual situations, but the difference between 90% and ~85% isn't that big of a deal when exping.

Why in gods name would you get a BTB sa? You are have a HP+ buff, use it.

For weapon, i would go for Acumen - if you cant keep your mp up when exping, you will only have to sit longer when you get to sit and wait for mp. In pvp, castspeed is vital - especially in mass pvp when you need to decrease the waiting time for the spells like rez and mass rez.

If I have to sit for my mp when I am exping, the group should not be where it is. While I do agree that acumen helps with the rez reuse time, but I still prefer to have more mp to keep them alive in the 1st place.

If you are worried about your rez, you can get an 89.6% rez without any armor bonuses, by getting +5 wit.
See this tread for details: Maximizing rez (http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=401548&an=0&page=0#Post4 01548)

Yup yup, my wit is 25 in majestic with +4 wit tattoo. Need one more +1 wit tattoo to maximize it, but I prefer my con and dex.

Everyone has their opinion.

76 Cardinal here. BW robes are perfectly fine until 80 if you felt like it. The cast speed on BW is a little better than majestic even. Very little though. The regen on BW was nerfed at one point even though they say it wasn't. It use to be better, trust me.

However the extra mp on majestic robes, the extra regen, and the stun resist is freaking GODLY both in PVE and PVP. I sieged/pvped for ages in BW, and it was STUN, die. STUN, DIE. The first night I used majestic in a siege I was sold. Got stunned maybe once, for 2 seconds.

As for a weapon, I used a crystal staff with mana up, then a ghoul staff with mana up, and I've gone acumen ever since. The bit of extra mp with mana up (like 1-2 heals) isn't worth the loss of casting speed. And a bigger mp pool just means more to regen.

Conversion would be ok for a super raid like Antharas where you are rezzing left and right, but let's put it this way, I bought a conversion weapon and 6+ months later I never used it.

So imo if you can afford it, majestic robes and any form of acumen weapon.

I used hp up at antharas elli, ++ zero deaths :)

If you were smart you wouldn't die even with conversion so that doesn't really matter.

However the extra mp on majestic robes, the extra regen, and the stun resist is freaking GODLY both in PVE and PVP. I sieged/pvped for ages in BW, and it was STUN, die. STUN, DIE. The first night I used majestic in a siege I was sold. Got stunned maybe once, for 2 seconds.

As for a weapon, I used a crystal staff with mana up, then a ghoul staff with mana up, and I've gone acumen ever since. The bit of extra mp with mana up (like 1-2 heals) isn't worth the loss of casting speed. And a bigger mp pool just means more to regen.

I would deffently go with what ellie said about the mejestic robes but only if you can afford it. other wise just stay with the BW.

don't sell your BW... it's a great set for rezing when you need to go rez a friend, a friends firend, or a ally. every lil bit of XP at 70+ is much needed.

deffently ditch the staffs for 1 handed sword. and a shield. As I said before.

also reason I say to get a vahalla or a wizards tear is cause the cost for B bsps is cheeper over time then C grade...and homu uses up 3 per each time, and the weigh alot more then B or A does.