Its because only one class really use fists weapons so its hard to find them since not alot of people craft them. I think its pretty fair, I myself spend weeks finding my weapon >.<
Its because only one class really use fists weapons so its hard to find them since not alot of people craft them. I think its pretty fair, I myself spend weeks finding my weapon >.<
as opposed to making it so dwarves have more incentive to make them...
I disagree. I've run around Dion and Giran and I see plenty of fist weapons around. I see them everywhere. There is no shortage of fist weapons, at least not on Bartz. This is one of the strangest and most biased changes I think I've ever seen in the game. I'm sorry but if they're going to add this feature into the game it needs to be full blown. You should be able to trade for any B weapons with mammon, not just certain ones, then there won't be a shortage of any of the B weapons.
Giving this advantage to a single class of a single race is wrong, I would rather see them not add the feature than to do it half.
at least it shows HOW bad the crafting go in L2
have you ever tryed to buy a Elemental sword???
you most spend weeks searching for a seller or a halberd
you get trowed to death with DS,SOM witch dude buys that crap,BOP and o yeah kes*kes whatever, butom line LOTS of good weapons are like a colectors item
The only good way to use that I can think of is for a -8INT elemental summoner to help land surrenders (but who knows if that extra MAtk even eats shot MAtk) or a -4INT SK as a nuking backup weapon.
ah a SPS slow casting o.0
is it not just a mater of getting adjusted even without speed buffs i find i cast just at a great speed not to mention they die in a single blow witch is also a LOT cheaper
Bartz has a butt load of them, and then tons of players also using fist weapons that don't even have masteries for them. This change is an insult to other classes. If they are going to throw a bone to the Tryants cause they've been nerfed so much or somthing, then how about tossing one out to the summoners? or the nukers? Why not let everyone trade any B grade weapon with mammom except daggers? See how the dagger classes feel about that? Why penalize me because I'm not a Tyrant?
If any B grade weapons can be traded with Mammon, all should be not just fist weapons!
well you will not hear me complening if any B grade weapon whas tradeable :) if they also include A with it even be BETTER :))
but first weapons are realy hard to get at B
no no
try this SPS with +4 INT and robe of nightmare and or Demon set + a Elemental sword with magic enpower
you obiverate a x1 white in a single blow
Most Elemental Swords go straight from drops to crystals because Empower/Magic Power are really, really bad SAs after you get out of C grade. The effect is so small you'd be better off getting a top A weapon which almost makes up the whole difference.
The Empower/Magic Power add their MATK to the very *end* of the formula, so that extra matk doesn't get multiplied by level modifier, INT modifier, armor bonus, jewelry bonus, or buffs. It would be a great SA IF it added to the weapon's MATK before any of those modifiers. It doesn't.
i have a SPS 56 and i use a Sword of wisper death +10 same power as a Elemental sword only SoWd have a lower out put magic enpower i blow anything white up in a single blow at 56 why sud that change when someone is 66? and yes i tryed acu to personaly it suxs sinds i need to cast twice before a single white dies and overhit is exetly the same xp's as a SoWd with magic enpower
my M.atk is 1250 at level 56 try that for a change you see what i mean the bonus of magic enpower is EVIL it counts as last but add a lot of damage on the end of the line
I see lots of top B fist weapons in giran. It's hard to go a day with out seeing one in giran. Low fist weapons are as rare as all the other low B weapons. I agree that they should make the weapons tradable for all types so they can stabalise the market on the B weapon prices.
Deadman Glory for example costs 10m more about to buy in town then a Art of Battle Axe, simply because the recipe is so much harder to get. But I don't see that in the patch.
The magic power SA addes 99 matk. Without it you would have 1151 matk. The square root of 1250/1151 is 1.042. This means that you do 4.2% more damage with the magic power SA than you would without it (at a cost of an extra 15% mp), if this changes mobs from 2-hit to 1-hit than great but if not it is just wasting mp. 4.2% is a pretty small difference so the magic power SA only helps in fairly specific situations.
exchanging all weapon types is crazy.... everyone will just craft greatsword or evil spirts cause the parts and recs are so common then trade for weapons people actually want
meaning 1 of 2 things.... the price of all weapons will go down(ROFLOLHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA) or the cheap weapons will go up to meet the rest of the gear since they are now the same (you guessed it... that 1)
now trading weapons for fist.... good idea ? prolly not... why ?
tyrants use fist.... thats pretty much it maybe a healer or dwarf for watever reason
fist are pretty much a blunt you cant stun w/ -- high acc./low crit... imo unless your a orc pretty much any weapon is better and i think most ppl agree seeing as fist are not often used outside tyrant and most often the cheapest weapons
if your a orc in need of some fist and cant find any forsale... id try crafting a set b4 i bought a weapon and traded for a fist that are worth less
the fact that only 1 class use them makes them hard to sell... less your on a xtremly orc heavy server and in that case buy a cheaper weapon trade it and sell it to a orc
Staff of Evil Spirits is actually not the cheapest top B weapon on the market right now on Seighart. The Art of Battle Axe is.
Also, note that the Greatsword is Low B not High B and therefore would not be equilivant to SoES.
I however noticed Lance sells for the most currently selling at around 60+m in town these days, where most other B weapons are 40-55m. I see no problem if the prices were to balance our some.