I know this is a bit trivial. Most people don't care about Swamp of screams (for good reason) but they really had a chance to make Swamp of screams at least somewhat bearable with the new patch. But for some reason they decided to make it far less appealing than it already is.
Why in the world did VoS and FoD get insta pots and Swamp of screams didn't. I know this isn't new, but with the new patch and the improvemenst to insta pots, there was potential to make SoS a viable choice for exping. Instead they decided to leave it out.
It is twice as hard for a melee as VoS or FoD. The mobs use ss, they bleed, they slow, they nuke hard, and they stun, and they almost always run to get friends. If you get stunned and they get away from you, you may have to BSOE or die. That is too heavy a risk when you are in walking distance of two places with inst-pot drops and equivilent exp with less danger.
These types of uneven, poorly thought out changes, REALLLLLLY make me wish I could be a fly on the wall for design team meetings (a Korean speaking fly).
I thought the whole point of swamp of screams was for a somewhat full group, hence no herbs because it's not a solo spot. And to keep automated friends out.
I thought the whole point of swamp of screams was for a somewhat full group, hence no herbs because it's not a solo spot. And to keep automated friends out.
I was actually going to ask what the point of swamp of screams was.
Does it give decent xp with a full group? Because I've only been there a few times in a group and I don't remember being wowed by the xp. I also remember it being dangerous.
It is not group exp. I think Plechan is right, although I will have to test. But I think SoS is slightly less exp than VoS, and FoD.
I really think the intent was to make a meel spot. All the mobs were archery resist, and matk resist when the place was made. I think they just went a little overboard on the difficulty lvl. And for how difficult it is, it should give like double exp. Or at least drop some insta-pots.
I looked up the spoils and there are a few that spoil EA-A, and a few that spoil BoTM recipes, and one that spoils a bloody orchid recipe. And one that spoils a soul bow rec. There are many that spoil various A and B armor mats.
The good part is there are no bots at all. All the mobs just for your self
ALLLLLLLL the mobs
only time i ever see ppl there is when they do nobless quest
i heard summoners can solo the place but at the end of the day it just isnt worth the xp
The good part is there are no bots at all. All the mobs just for your self
The bad part is, the bots aren't there because they know it's just the most poorly thought out area in L2.
And with the sleepping cloud being nerfed to high heck, it simply becomes that much more unnecessarily dangerous. Though I do remember someone or other mentioning how an increase in the probability of dying made the game more fun for them.
So maybe it was taylor made for those people who like to lose 4% of their experience every 15 minutes.
Yeah..the SoS is probably the most worthless piece of real'o'state the game has to offer. I went there one time just to see the new Stakato Nest at the C-5 launch. The XP was terrible and the time it took to kill stuff as a warlord was ridiculous. Got instantly tired of it just trying to navigate through it.
Been there with Duo, XP better, then you die. Mobs use SS and Bsps, you better have good M def or your gonna die quick. Place is too dangerous for Duo/trio, and with 4 or more the xp really takes a dive. I agree, this is a very poorly thought out hunting ground. If they raised the xp so that a full party could operate there it would be a good place to hunt then. Even with full party you still have to stay on your toes. I love the mobs that actually do run off and bring back friends with them, sometimes a LOT of friends.
I used to XP a lot in Swamp of Screams, it gave decent but not great xp for my duo and I killed fast enough they usually didn't escape or get off a bleed very often. VoS or FoD would have been about the same xp but I never had to worry about getting a spot in the swamp. I was xping on the lower level stakatos with my SwS+BD duo (w/ SE buffs). It was scary because if one got away it might bring one or two frenzy groups along with a mob or two from inside the nest (I can only remember twice when it got three frenzies before c5) but it often just stayed in the nest. If I UD'ed, ate ghp's, and everything went ok I could live through two frenzy groups but I often died to them.
Now if they escape they always bring something back and it is at least two frenzy groups plus all the normal stakatos in a fairly large area which means I have no chance to live without using a bsoe if I let one get away.
With arrest it is less likely that one will escape than without it but it was thrilling living through a frenzy group or two. It isn't good enough xp for more than a duo/trio and I cannot think of a trio that would be able to hunt there (if I had an EE or Bishop with me and they didn't mind not doing anything between escaped stakatos it might work - It would still be very scary and not that good xp though). I don't understand why they made them call even more mobs on you, 12+ adds wasn't enough for a small party?
I would say it is meant for AoE but with all those high speed nukers that sometimes use bsps and/or get a magic critical AoE just isn't practical.
If they changed it back to the C4 swamp parties with arrest or root might be able to hunt there when their fields in FoD are taken.