They don't give details because they don't want people trying it. They do mention it because anyone doing "whatever it is" apparently will "know" that it is an exploit and therefore they are warned.
And what about the poor sap, that didn't know they were doing it. And gets slapped with a ban? ....
I think that most likely it is apparent. At least that is what I'm getting from this announcement.
Doing something like perching or adena trick during sieges wasn't originally bannable because they didn't announce it. But for them to come out and say that if you are doing it then you "know" it is an exploit means that it is pretty obvious.
You guys didn't get what I was asking. :) I wasn't asking for details, I was asking why the announcement in-game directed you to the forums for details which aren't given there ...
The announcement in game I am sure is there so if people who did that 'exploit' argue that they don't read forum.. well, the in game announcement 'announced' it to direct you to the forum.
If tehy stay the detail, peopel will do it. So the move is to cover both in game and board with announcement.
Those are the details you asked for. You'll never get more info on an exploit than that.
Exactly
No players will be able to accidentally use this exploit; It can only be used with prior knowledge. Any castle won in this way will be forcibly removed of ownership and any account found participating will be permanently closed.
These are the details. That would be too much for that little logon announcement.
Now, why they didn't announce at the first screen after you login, I don't know. But there it is.
Those are the details you asked for. You'll never get more info on an exploit than that.
For the second time: I didn't ask for any details. I asked why there seemingly aren't any details about the "serious issue regarding castle sieges" on the forums (and no, details about how the GM team will handle this issue aren't details about the issue itself), as was said in the in-game announcement.
<blinks> The announcement lists the detail - there are some war zone problems, or at least that's what it mentioned in the original announcement.
Those are the details you asked for. You'll never get more info on an exploit than that.
For the second time: I didn't ask for any details. I asked why there seemingly aren't any details about the "serious issue regarding castle sieges" on the forums (and no, details about how the GM team will handle this issue aren't details about the issue itself), as was said in the in-game announcement.
Of course there ARE details o.O
The in-game message says "there is a serious issue with sieges, go to the official forum to read more", and the forum announcement then gives the details, i.e. that there is an exploit with areas which should be siege areas but aren't, which could be used to gain an unfair advantage in a siege, and that using it is a bannable offense, and that you CANNOT use it by accident because you actually have to do something which no normal player would do.
i asked hgmspam about it and the only thing i can figure it could be has existed since the first castle siege in c1. But he hasnt said if that was it and why after 2 years would it be considered an exploit now?
The only thing I can think of that would be so bad to be a insta ban exploit is maybe an area flagged a peace zone but you can attack others but people can't hit you.
<blinks> The announcement lists the detail - there are some war zone problems, or at least that's what it mentioned in the original announcement.
... and no details about the problems are given. Just this rough description.
Don't get me wrong - I neither care for nor want to know the details. I do however care for the in-game announcements to be actually true.
<blinks> The announcement lists the detail - there are some war zone problems, or at least that's what it mentioned in the original announcement.
... and no details about the problems are given. Just this rough description.
Don't get me wrong - I neither care for nor want to know the details. I do however care for the in-game announcements to be actually true.
The "details" you seek is the announcement that it is an exploit. It points you to the web site because if the message is given in the ingame system then we would really have spam. Can you imagine the post in the web page being delivered through the ingame message system?
In Game
1.Important notice to all players!
2.We have discovered that some
3.of the locations near the castles
4.are not considered as a siege
5.area by the system at this time.
6.Please note that using these
7.locations to take advantage in
8.the castle sieges is now
9.considered as an exploit and a
10.misuse of the game mechanics.
11.No players will be able to
12.accidentally use this exploit;
13.It can only be used with prior
14.knowledge. Any castle won in
15.this way will be forcibly removed
16.of ownership and any account
17.found participating will be
18.permanently closed.
19.These rules are in place to keep
20.the game play fair and are for
21.the benefit of all players.
Some clannie was ssaying on vent that he lost 4% on death while running uphill Oren Castle ... so I do not know, could it be that? But I do not think it was done by purpose.
No, the details are given there - Varaya quoted and explained.
There are areas on siege zones which are not considered siege zones - when you're outside of a war area and attacking into a war area, I'm fairly certain you get a system warning.
Even though people are saying they don't want full details, the description ncsoft gave is just fine and anything else would be them saying HOW to do the exploit and they just won't do that.
Even though people are saying they don't want full details, the description ncsoft gave is just fine and anything else would be them saying HOW to do the exploit and they just won't do that.
Exactly. That's why I don't understand why they decided to write "check the forums for details" in the in-game announcement when it's obvious there's no way in hell they would ever provide the details.
saying their is an exploit tells you NOTHING. TELLING YOU WHAT THE BASIC IDEA OF THE EXPLOIT IS DETAILS. stop being ignorant. your starting to piss me off.
saying their is an exploit tells you NOTHING. TELLING YOU WHAT THE BASIC IDEA OF THE EXPLOIT IS DETAILS. stop being ignorant. your starting to piss me off.
Telling the "basic idea" of anything is at most a single detail, at worst just an abstract. No way does it warrant a plural form, and as far as I can see in this case not even the singular.
Why dont they just tell us what the **** exploit is they have in the past.
IE using the exploit in the wishing potion quest or the oel mahum badge quest in c1 will get you banned PERIOD
Perching will get you banned PERIOD
Dropping adena in a siege zone will get you banned PERIOD
Using pets with reflect damage will get you banned PERIOD
So TELL US WHAT WE COULD GET BANNED FOR i mean your going to ban the people for doing anyway might as well tell what we could get banned for.
Its not like they havent told us in the past what the exploit is that we could be banned for?
Is it i stand outside a siege zone and shoot in i dont flag but if peopel shoot me outside the siege they will go red? And i distinctly remember posting about this in C1 C2 C3 and it was said to not be an exploit but a "FEATURE" of the game.
SO if this has changed please TELL US. A little communication is what is lacking lately from NCSoft. Constant server issues Community server been down for months now no heros on many servers i feel like im playing back in prelude lately.
Why dont they just tell us what the **** exploit is they have in the past.
IE using the exploit in the wishing potion quest or the oel mahum badge quest in c1 will get you banned PERIOD
Perching will get you banned PERIOD
Dropping adena in a siege zone will get you banned PERIOD
Using pets with reflect damage will get you banned PERIOD
So TELL US WHAT WE COULD GET BANNED FOR i mean your going to ban the people for doing anyway might as well tell what we could get banned for.
Its not like they havent told us in the past what the exploit is that we could be banned for?
Is it i stand outside a siege zone and shoot in i dont flag but if peopel shoot me outside the siege they will go red? And i distinctly remember posting about this in C1 C2 C3 and it was said to not be an exploit but a "FEATURE" of the game.
SO if this has changed please TELL US. A little communication is what is lacking lately from NCSoft. Constant server issues Community server been down for months now no heros on many servers i feel like im playing back in prelude lately.
Important notice to all players! We have discovered that some of the locations near the castles are not considered as a siege area by the system at this time. Please note that using these locations to take advantage in the castle sieges is now considered as an exploit and a misuse of the game mechanics. No players will be able to accidentally use this exploit; It can only be used with prior knowledge. Any castle won in this way will be forcibly removed of ownership and any account found participating will be permanently closed.
These rules are in place to keep the game play fair and are for the benefit of all players.