Seeding problem or bug? - Retail Forum Archives

AndreasK Dec 6, 2006, 11:29 PM #1

I encountered a strange thing concerning seeding. I have a scavenger lvl 27 and I was seeding (normal not alternative) Lute coda seed (level 20-30) in wasteland. The target monsters were lesser basilisks (27) and monster eye watchers (25). I observed that there was a lot of failed seedings, so I started counting. Out of 40 seedings, I got 15 failures ("seed was not sown" message). This is a 37.5% failure chance. From what I understand there should not be a single failure according to the seed description, since all factors (monster, player, seed) were all within the right levels. What is wrong? Is it a bug, or is it normal?

Orvieta Dec 6, 2006, 11:51 PM #2

I have this a lot with the same seed on normal HP mobs, yet I never fail one in a catacomb. Maybe thats the case.

MalineII Dec 7, 2006, 12:08 AM #3

Lute Coda has been known to have a mislabelled level range since C3.

I suppose it's not a bug, but a feature, if it's been around this long.

Orvieta Dec 7, 2006, 12:37 AM #4

Lute Coda has been known to have a mislabelled level range since C3.

I suppose it's not a bug, but a feature, if it's been around this long.

So what is the exact lvl range then?

MalineII Dec 7, 2006, 12:40 AM #5

A bit higher up - I think it's actually like 28-38, but I didn't do any extensive testing at the time cos iron ore sorta sucks.

mrDionis Dec 7, 2006, 2:30 AM #6

posibly mobs HP is 1/2 ....
on 1/2 hp u have 50% chance to faliure
normal hp - u have 1 crop
2x hp - 1 - 2 crops
3x hp - 2 - 3 crops
4x hp - 3 - 4 crops

oEliinao Dec 7, 2006, 2:37 AM #7

1x I've got pretty good amount of 2 crops

MalineII Dec 7, 2006, 3:06 AM #8

posibly mobs HP is 1/2 ....
on 1/2 hp u have 50% chance to faliure
normal hp - u have 1 crop
2x hp - 1 - 2 crops
3x hp - 2 - 3 crops
4x hp - 3 - 4 crops

Simplified to the point of being inaccurate - it depends on the level gap, the seep, and, yes, the multiplicity of a mob's HP.

PleChan Dec 7, 2006, 5:24 AM #9

posibly mobs HP is 1/2 ....
on 1/2 hp u have 50% chance to faliure
normal hp - u have 1 crop
2x hp - 1 - 2 crops
3x hp - 2 - 3 crops
4x hp - 3 - 4 crops

It depence on the total HP, nothing more, if you seed a bit higher lv mobs, you will get the same effect as if the mob was 2x HP even thought it's maybe not.

AndreasK Dec 7, 2006, 6:20 AM #10

Since both the monsters I described are 1X, the only explanation I find valid is what MalineII writes, that the actual seed level is written wrong. In this case, I will repost this on the bugs section. Thanks to all for your answers.

SoulMagic Dec 7, 2006, 4:03 PM #11

Lute Coda has been known to have a mislabelled level range since C3.

I suppose it's not a bug, but a feature, if it's been around this long.

Ah yes a feature :P lol Rest assured they will fix it someday, well they will change the name of the seed perhaps as changing names of things seems to be a favorite pastime of nc :)

AndreasK Dec 15, 2006, 8:39 AM #12

I submitted a bug report and the support team confirmed that it's a bug. Next update is supposed to fix it. What is interesting is that they also told me that seeding is not 100% guaranteed. From the description I read on the seeds it should be 100% (when all conditions are met) since it is using the verb "ensure" (make sure). If there is a chance of failing (even if all level conditions are met) it should write something like "increase the chance of success".