im thinking of upgrading my staff of life to a homu sword by the time i am 40, but how am i supposed to get the seal stones? i can't solo in the catas/necros, and nobody ever takes a nuker into their group.
im thinking of upgrading my staff of life to a homu sword by the time i am 40, but how am i supposed to get the seal stones? i can't solo in the catas/necros, and nobody ever takes a nuker into their group.
Well, that's not exactly true. People do take nukers into groups. They might not be the first choice but you must have some friends who will group with you?
Otherwise I would look to your clan to help you out. And if they won't help you then you might consider another clan.
I would love a nuker in my catacomb groups...as long as we can keep aggro off them they kill insanely fast. A tank was shouting "looking for nuker to dual in cat" so i was like "odd"..But he mainly hated while i nuked away. I was even to cdl with no worries...but i did have an out of party se for recharges though.
Staff of life has a considerable difference in power and price than Homunculus. That means that unless you have a lot of money to spare, you can't buy it directly. You need to take some steps.
1) Sell the staff of life.
2) Normally, you can get from that enough money to buy the necessarry D and C crystals for a low C weapon (doesn't matter what) from Luxury shop.
3) Go to Blacksmith of mammon and exchange it for free for a mage weapon (like stick of faith Matk=81)
4) Stay with this weapon for a while and try to find parties to catacombs. This will not help you to gather all needed seal stones. It will simply help you reduce the number you need. The rest of the stones (or directly ancient adena) you will buy with normal adena. Keep in mind that it is almost impossible to gather 2.4 M AA just by drops and still need homunkulus. You'll probably be B-grade by then.
5) When you have enough normal adena, buy the rest of the seal stone/ancient adena and go to Blacksmith of mammon to upgrade to Homunkulus.
I must have missed a few things. Can't you just manor enough money to buy the weapon you want?
For a nuker the weapon is the important thing so you can let your armor go for a while. You can even forego jewelry if you stay with melee mobs. I don't even have one piece of d grade jewelry and I'm level 38.
You can trade a weapon for another weapon from the blacksmith of mammon? Or upgrade it for a better one?
Except its really risky to use the manor system as a mage, and without sleep but with stunning mobs, it is not a viable option.
So it really is not suprising to find that Malline who played a summoner was the queen of the manor system while I who played a spellsinger never used it.
So it really is not suprising to find that Malline who played a summoner was the queen of the manor system while I who played a spellsinger never used it.
my sister has manored and continues to manor
she is a mystic muse
Every time I've tried it, I've registered more than my average 2 deaths per day.
sure why not, no reason you have to die doing it either
for starters do non agro mobs
if you have to use agro mobs nuke once then seed when in range and nuke again, you will take a fair bit more damage but manor system is all about adena++ not xp++
if you do non agro mobs just walk in/ seed/ quickly step back to full range/ nuke
You can also use sleep first if they are aggro and there is no social close by. Then just walk up, seed it, and step back to full range to nuke away. People seem to forget that it dosen't matter how long it takes to cast sleep if nothing is attacking yet.
If theres a nuker on gustin who wants to come hang out with me and increase my kill speed by about 800%, let me know. I'll deal with the pain cause im a nice guy.
just a note, even up into the mid-40's Nukers are not really that bad of healers. so u can always play the healer role in a cata ;). (no buffs tho :( )
Durgoth, I probably shouldn't tell you, but to be fair your glad will get more XP per hour SOLO than the mage can help you with because over about 20 minutes your Glad will completely destroy the mage's damage output due to lack of mana.
Nobody groups mages because they are mathematically worthless due to mana problems and are less useful than archers at control now.
Just an FYI, Mages CAN indeed manor...
They are much lesser at it and more annoying to do it than melee... but it is possible.
Frankly, if you want to manor, roll up a lowbie melee.
It will take you a few days to get to early 30s (if you are clueless) and you will be nearly invulnerable with the herbs, kill in 2-5 hits (whites) and do so infinitely until you run out of dss.
Heavy armor melee can afk while being beat on to run to the washroom and still not only not die, but kill everything as well.
The game has very drastically changed in the melee's favor.
Durgoth, I probably shouldn't tell you, but to be fair your glad will get more XP per hour SOLO than the mage can help you with because over about 20 minutes your Glad will completely destroy the mage's damage output due to lack of mana.
Nobody groups mages because they are mathematically worthless due to mana problems and are less useful than archers at control now.
Mages end up waiting for the right herb at just the wrong time and now must run to the mob as well to get the benefit... they kill faster but end up with massive downtimes where the melee have ZERO downtime right now.
Spellsingers and Sorc spend more time standing around than nuking.
(SH is better off because they can turn large chunks of HP into mana)
Polearm class + SE is the best XP duo in the game by a LONG SHOT.
Where have you been? C5 happened... herbs happened.
Mages end up waiting for the right herb at just the wrong time and now must run to the mob as well to get the benefit... they kill faster but end up with massive downtimes where the melee have ZERO downtime right now.
Spellsingers and Sorc spend more time standing around than nuking.
(SH is better off because they can turn large chunks of HP into mana)
Polearm class + SE is the best XP duo in the game by a LONG SHOT.
Where have you been? C5 happened... herbs happened.
yeah guess what man its C5 not c3
at this stage many many ppl have melee toons with nuker sub classes (im one of them)
nukers lvl faster. full stop
Well so far I have had no problems manoring, granted it's faster with a Shadow out but works fine for me (currently have 3000+ animal bones I need to sell). I do aggro mobs all the time they just don't have stuns, not that they would get them off anyway.
BDSpS
Huricane or Shadow Spark
Seed
Aura Flare
Harvest
And on and on and on. Sometimes I've had to wait to seed because I've killed them so fast as in I aggro two mobs. These are usually not 2x hp mobs or yellow, just regular white mobs.
Mages end up waiting for the right herb at just the wrong time and now must run to the mob as well to get the benefit... they kill faster but end up with massive downtimes where the melee have ZERO downtime right now.
Spellsingers and Sorc spend more time standing around than nuking.
(SH is better off because they can turn large chunks of HP into mana)
Polearm class + SE is the best XP duo in the game by a LONG SHOT.
Where have you been? C5 happened... herbs happened.
Don't think so. Have you played a mage??
I have an SH (65) and Sorceror (52). I two-box an SE (65)with both. I never have down time. Even on the sorceror, mana is not a problem. Running to pick up loot or herbs is no more trouble for a nuker than for a melee.
Nameless, is there anything which doesn't level faster than a dwarf?
thats funny i level faster than most of the people i know. even if im only doing 300 a swing... all i need is 4 mobs to make it 1200 a swing.
i like nukers in the group, escpecially in necroes. go grab 4-12 mobs, and keep whacking away. a nice nuker helps make sure the one i am targeted gets harvested and swept first. hang with some dwarves. you get some seal stones, and they get to kill the mobs a little faster. just don't go corpse draining or whatever it is the blue mobs.
so go find a dwarf with a pole, and hang with him... and if someone gives the dwarf slack, just blast them off his face.
I'm not quite sure how a mage does this "a nice nuker helps make sure the one i am targeted gets harvested and swept first", and I believe you are confusing spellhowlers and necromancers with their spellsinger and sorceror failed counterparts, the latter two don't have access to corpse life drain.