Weee finally managed to get myself to the class Snack Howler :), The subclass quest was sure a pain but :) it's well worth the reward, FINALLY BEING A GOOD CLASS! Wonder if I ever switch back to my main as horrible BH's current state are.
Why do SHs go demon I will never know. Demon never did anything for me but slow my cast speed down by what.... 20%?
Very cute though. I would much rather have a Dorf SH than an Emo Elf SH.
Because that you want more damage LOL. There is no such thing as to much damage, and LOL cast speed is **** good anyway.
I can throw out about 4-5 nukes before the mobs reach me, aka if I pull 3 mobs, 2 of them is dead before the last is hitting on me, and that one dies insanely fast to.
Why bother with more cast speed? I find it more important to 2 shots 2x mobs.
And LOL about sleep, who the hell need it ^^, all i can say, from full experience now so far, if my dwarf pulled 3 mobs at that lv of thees mobs, she would NOT survive, a mage LOL can probably deal with 4 or maybe 5. Glass cannon? No I don't believe so ^^.
So far I really like the nuker role ^^, insane fast kill speed, kill mobs faster then what my dwarf would kill the very same mob at 75. And leveling every 2 hour or so ^^, I recall it took me like 4-5 hours for my dwarf ^^.
Meh... wait until you get CDL. You will learn to love cast speed!
Also... yeah... with slow, claw, and corpse drain... it's pretty hard to die from a 5 mob pull. At 52... on my newest SH... I always pull 3+ mobs... and the only time I ever died was to a nuke crit from the **** Flash of Splendors. Blades have a dagger stab that hit for 1k... but those never killed me~
gratz
if you are anything like me by the time you hit B grade you will be on your 20th sin eater and have more pvp's by 41 than your dorf got from 0-75
well consider our clan/alliance currently have no war :P I doubt I get any PVP's before 41 :P and beside that I did hit 41 after just 2 hours playing LOL. And not really many around in that area who could piss you off, like 0 was there :P
Why can't a dwarf have a decent PvP/PK score? I do, and I'm only a level 65 Warsmith (29/29 atm, used to be 29/66).
Grats on sub Ple. GOGO dorfies.
Of course they can, but it mostly will be from lower lv targets or lucky shots, all my PVP score I have is all from luck, aka last hit, but mostly I never even get last hit ^^.
I PvP outside of sieges whenever I get the chance to do so, which isn't often. And BTW, dwarves can hold their own against a lot of classes, most people are completely surprised by our hardiness.
I fought a 61 SH at level 61. It was a fair 1v1, and I was able to use my golem. No potions allowed. and whatever buffs we could get. SH managed to sleep me right away, but had quite a difficult time killing the golem, since it has a very nice ranged attack. Too bad that initial sleep landed on me, or the SH would not have lived. SH spent quite a while as I slept after killing my golem healing in case I manged to get to her before she could kill me.
SH run pretty **** fast tho, and I couldn't catch her, but oh well. Was a close fight, and SH was very impressed.
you should challenge a real nuker
golem should be dead in 3 hits max and you will just be kited into the ground
if you start at full range expect to get 1 hit on a nuker who knows how to play their class (the mech cannon)
i got 24 pvps from one siege (on sub) so i have to ask ple if he has ever been to a siege?
That is one, the one we captured Innadrill :P thought that was on my WS alt. The rest of the sieges after I was on my dwarf, we did hold the castle for 1/3 year so :P
This one is with my main ^^. Sure was a while ago now.
i got 24 pvps from one siege (on sub) so i have to ask ple if he has ever been to a siege?
He and I both have been to sieges regularly, but you don't get PvP points for kills you get on-field, only those you kill off the siege field. I didn't get more than 10 PvP points over our months of Innadril ownership largely because most of the time we were fighting on the siege field.
He and I both have been to sieges regularly, but you don't get PvP points for kills you get on-field, only those you kill off the siege field. I didn't get more than 10 PvP points over our months of Innadril ownership largely because most of the time we were fighting on the siege field.
yeah i freaked out when a clanner told me you dont get pvps on siege field (only been to one siege)
if thats how many i got off the field id hate to know what i killed on it ^^
did keep track of a fair bit of stuff though like the fact i silenced 9 ppl and para'ed 14
Anyhow just showing me and a friend taking care of 2x HP mobs... and lots of em at the same time, up to 5 ^^, and so many nukers how complain about sleep LOL.... Quality sucks but only made it to prove a point and see if everything worked correct ^^.
Anyhow, some annoying things to be a subbed dwarf.
* When on sub, your CH magicaly lose 20 spots of inventory....
* Being dwarf and sub the class who got hte least carrying capacity is.... LOL
* You can't switch between subs in all towns, my PS friend can only switch to his sub/Main in 2 towns in game... Aden and Giran quite stupid....
* Nukers lv at INSANE SPEED, gettig over 1% per min.....
Anyhow just showing me and a friend taking care of 2x HP mobs... and lots of em at the same time, up to 5 ^^, and so many nukers how complain about sleep LOL.... Quality sucks but only made it to prove a point and see if everything worked correct ^^.
its funny that only dwarves subbed nukers seem to realize this crap
overpowered nuker: omg sleep is suxor i quit
massively underpowered dorf sub: omg sleep is like the best skill ever
Anyhow, some annoying things to be a subbed dwarf.
* When on sub, your CH magicaly lose 20 spots of inventory....
* Being dwarf and sub the class who got hte least carrying capacity is.... LOL
i hear a rumor that if you change to sub and you are over wh (or inventory?) slots anything in those slots will disapear forever
dont know if its true but when my main has nearly 120 inventory and my sub has 80 im not gonna be the guy to test it
I think you missed the point, my point was, WHO THE HELL NEED SLEEP, when you can kill the mobs with just freeking blinking... The mobs just drop dead in front of you, you can easily drop 3 mobs before they even reach you.
I have yet to use sleep, LOL because don't even find it usefully.
fair enough
but wait till higher lvls
sure i could kill 5 or 6 mobs before they touch me but for the other 3 i would usually sleep one so i didnt have to waste mp on vamp claw :P
when you are 7x... the mobs that are 2x to you still take 5-6 or more nukes depending on your matk.
Its depressing when you nuke a mob and see that even with surrender it will take up to 10 nukes to kill... course those are +4
The 2x mobs where there to illustrate that you need 2 nukes per mob, I see nukers kill things in 1 nuke, and some times 2 up at 7x so yeah, this things need 2 nukes, and I even got demon and not +++ cast speed either who probably would make it even more easier to deal with it.
At low level like that I almost never used sleep. It wasn't even on my hotbar. I thought it was a useless skill. Then I started hitting the higher areas where the mobs were faster, would stun more and for longer and would interrupt my casts alot. Thats when sleep became useful. Don't start criticizing people who have been playing a class through to the high 70s when you've only just started.
At low level like that I almost never used sleep. It wasn't even on my hotbar. I thought it was a useless skill. Then I started hitting the higher areas where the mobs were faster, would stun more and for longer and would interrupt my casts alot. Thats when sleep became useful. Don't start criticizing people who have been playing a class through to the high 70s when you've only just started.
Well see about it LOL, sure mobs stun and the fort, but you should also realize this affect melees 10000 times more then any nuker ingame. Who is it standing up front to hte mob and actually being beaten and hitted by stun.
I usually see a TON of soloing nukers up at hot springs, they all get stunned and just continue like nothing after it.
Well see about it LOL, sure mobs stun and the fort, but you should also realize this affect melees 10000 times more then any nuker ingame. Who is it standing up front to hte mob and actually being beaten and hitted by stun.
I usually see a TON of soloing nukers up at hot springs, they all get stunned and just continue like nothing after it.
forget it man ive tryed explaining this to ppl before
apparently real nukers know more about how nerfed they are then a dwarf who subs one
I think it's just the "I used to" syndrome. When someone has something and it's taken away, they never forget how it used to be better; even if they're still an excellent class and among the best soloers ingame, they'll only see what's taken away.
By contrast, when your normal experience is as one of the worst soloing classes ingame, when you move to one of the best, even if it's not as good as it used to be, it's still a monumental step up and that's what you see.
And yeah, stun sucks in general. Stun was the cause of quite a few BSOEs on my phantom summoner main. It's certainly no better for melees, especially as it takes so long to kill them that they're landing two or three stuns on you over the course of the fight.
Well see about it LOL, sure mobs stun and the fort, but you should also realize this affect melees 10000 times more then any nuker ingame. Who is it standing up front to hte mob and actually being beaten and hitted by stun.
I usually see a TON of soloing nukers up at hot springs, they all get stunned and just continue like nothing after it.
forget it man ive tryed explaining this to ppl before
apparently real nukers know more about how nerfed they are then a dwarf who subs one
Of course they do nameless. We dwarves don't even know what a nerf is, as it's never happened to us since Beta.
I think you really don't now much about dwarves, Dwarves where a **** good class at Prelude, and decent in C1, after that every chronicle after that they got nerfed, and nerfed oh and by the way nerfed. Not gonna bring up on what each chronicle nerfed but thees who been playing the game should know.
I think you really don't now much about dwarves, Dwarves where a **** good class at Prelude, and decent in C1, after that every chronicle after that they got nerfed, and nerfed oh and by the way nerfed. Not gonna bring up on what each chronicle nerfed but thees who been playing the game should know.
I know it, and i'm stll crying about these nerfs :'(
the problem in C1 was, that it was difficult to find a party coz lots of ppl thought spoil gone the "normal drop" rate down. And all were jealous about tons of mats/key mats we had (there wasn't too many bots at this time).