Hawkeye Tats

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Hello all,

I was wondering which combination of tattoos would be good for a Hawkeye. I've been trying to set up a nice configuration for this tats, but I can't get anything good. It's kind of complex when INT, DEX and STR depends of eachother.

So, what would you guys recommend for PVP and PVE?

Thanks in advance!
+4 STR -4 CON
+4 WIT -5 INT
(+4 DEX -4 CON optional)

+4 WIT -5 INT



What for? You don't get spells, and it doesn't help your defense or anything either.


+4 WIT -5 INT



What for? You don't get spells, and it doesn't help your defense or anything either.



Pain of Sagittarius
Ahh... hehe, forgot about that.

Ahh... hehe, forgot about that.



No worries, on my HE I often even ask for acumen to get my casting speed even higher, less work for the rechargers as I can regen myself then.
So the recharges can focus on the nukers who blast their mp way faster then me.

I really recommend it.
Interesting.. guess I'll have to try +WIT again on my Sagi..


I'd go +5STR and drop the +4DEX though, but dex is still good for PVE.


+4 WIT -5 INT




isnt this for mage/healer classes only?



+4 WIT -5 INT



What for? You don't get spells, and it doesn't help your defense or anything either.



Pain of Sagittarius



that spell is for replenish your mp by using a bit of your hp.


don't see why we need +wit for that.
healers cant touch int.



+4 WIT -5 INT



What for? You don't get spells, and it doesn't help your defense or anything either.



Pain of Sagittarius



I figured PoS was a Physical skill, not a magical one.

Too bad that snipe has such a long cool down.

and WIT is still for sleep resist. I've been thinking about +4 wit on my BD cause I get sleeped very easily.




+4 WIT -5 INT



What for? You don't get spells, and it doesn't help your defense or anything either.



Pain of Sagittarius



that spell is for replenish your mp by using a bit of your hp.


don't see why we need +wit for that.



Read up I explained it already...

Interesting.. guess I'll have to try +WIT again on my Sagi..
I'd go +5STR and drop the +4DEX though, but dex is still good for PVE.



But the archers need speed. Isn't it bad to sacrifice DEX? I heard DEX is crucial for PVP.


Interesting.. guess I'll have to try +WIT again on my Sagi..
I'd go +5STR and drop the +4DEX though, but dex is still good for PVE.



But the archers need speed. Isn't it bad to sacrifice DEX? I heard DEX is crucial for PVP.



imo it isn't, that -4 Con will let you end on the floor more then once.
Isn't it better to give up the +4 STR insted of the +4 DEX for PvP, cause DEX increasing runspeed, critrate and attackspeed, meanwhile +4 STR only gives around +4% mor dmg, which is nothing in Majestic Light?


Interesting.. guess I'll have to try +WIT again on my Sagi..
I'd go +5STR and drop the +4DEX though, but dex is still good for PVE.



But the archers need speed. Isn't it bad to sacrifice DEX? I heard DEX is crucial for PVP.



yes, dex and str is important for archer.

forget about wit.
dex > str. evasion.

nuff said.

Isn't it better to give up the +4 STR insted of the +4 DEX for PvP, cause DEX increasing run-speed, crit-rate and attack-speed, meanwhile +4 STR only gives around +4% more dmg, which is nothing in Majestic Light?



First we're talking about 2 different things.

PvE and PvP. you can't have both (well you can, but you wont excel in PvP with a PvE set up).

I'd rather do PvE +5 str, and +4 wit (if it's truly a Magic skill and not a Phys skill). then running +4 dex and +4 str. HE gets stunned easily when you go -8 con and armor bonus.

HE has the lowest Dex of the 3 archers.

So the bonus to Dex for HE is something like, +2 acc, +2 eva, maybe +4-7 run speed. and about 60 more atk speed, if that. and around 25 to crt rate.

While adding +5 str would add something like 300 to P atk.

While Majestic Light adds +8% to Bow atk. which is close to an extra +4 str.

your not going to gain quite as much with the +4 Dex as you would with the +5 str for PvE.
The increase in DEX is so tiny small, but the extra loss of CON is pretty high, unless you can have boss jewels at your disposal I find it extremely overrated.

But you all have to do what you want.
I have QR on my Soulbow doesn't make the loose of the extra attackspeed makes a big different?
I know many say go for Carnage for pvp but I can't efford boss juwels nor another bow and I can't sell the Soulbow cause it's borrowed by a friend.
PvE = +5str, +4dex
PvP = +5str

PvE = +5str, +4dex
PvP = +5str



I thought that was obvious enough already...starting to wonder how many people actually pvp with their HE. :)
I am currently using +5Dex and +4Str tats. I am not saying this is the best setup, its just the one I enjoy playing with the most since the **** HE is a turtle and I am usually surrounded by top buffs,gear and in most PvP's have many powerful clanmates along side of me (19 Heroes) so I can afford to gimp my Con.

The previous tat setup I had listed (PvE = +5str, +4dex
PvP = +5str )is best for most players overall.
First at all, thanks all for your good answers! So, in the mean time (since I am in the 40's) I will go:

+4STR -4CON
+4WIT -5INT

So I can PVE better and faster, since I dont care actually about real PVP. Then later, maybe in the 60's or 70's when the PVP becomes more crucial I might add the +4DEX -4CON. Is that ok? LOL I just don't want to spend money in tats that I will have to remove later :)

Or do you think I should go +5STR instead +4STR? If I go +5STR, then when I hit the 70's I will have to remove that "tattoo" to put a +4STR and a +4DEX in the place of the +3STR/+2STR.

This is a pretty interesting post imo.

Thanks guys for your suggestions!
If you are not sure how to use your 3rd tat slot yet, I'd suggest stick with +4 STR for now.
Exactly, so when the time comes and I need to add a new tat, I can use the other slot to put it there, it means no need to remove any existing tat. Thanks a lot Orvieta!
yw, don't forget your Pain of Sagittarius doesn't come before lvl 55-58 (I kinda forgot now), so no real need to place +4 WIT before that either ;)

I still haven't figured out how to use my 3rd tat slot...and I am far in AG by now.
I still have doubts about the WIT tatoo affecting reuse time for Pain of Sagittarius.. any confirmation?

I still have doubts about the WIT tatoo affecting reuse time for Pain of Sagittarius.. any confirmation?



Guess nobody believes it till he or she sees it...you can see it regens faster then without the WIT.

I still have doubts about the WIT tatoo affecting reuse time for Pain of Sagittarius.. any confirmation?



Did you need a spellbook to learn the skill? If you did its a magic skill and affected by WIT.


I still have doubts about the WIT tatoo affecting reuse time for Pain of Sagittarius.. any confirmation?



Did you need a spellbook to learn the skill? If you did its a magic skill and affected by WIT.



No you don't, you get the skill like that. Now there is a really budget solution to know if WIT helps or not.

Let a prophet Acumen you and try it, and try w/o acumen, see the difference for yourself :)
Good idea :P Should've thought of that.. now I just got to find acumen! :>
That's what I thought :P

But once people on forums start to "invent" how things work, you start to doubt sometimes, though it's not logical :p

That's what I thought :P

But once people on forums start to "invent" how things work, you start to doubt sometimes, though it's not logical :p



So use, zerk, haste, fury and it will cool down faster....just like Snipe. PoF or CoV wouldn't hurt.
One question - don't active skills reset at the same pace once they have started? I.e. wouldn't it be good to swap in a Chrono or dagger of some sort before using pain of sag and then go back to bow?
Yes that works.

The more I think about it the more I'm hitting myself for even considering the option that PoS was based on cast speed lol :p


Add Song of Champion in there as well for faster reuse!