I noticed these attributes for the Hell Knife and Sprite Staff in particular. Does anybody have any feedback on how well they work? What does it mean when the descriptions say "good magic"? Does that include buffs? And does anybody have any feedback on either the Hell Knife or Sprite Staff? I 'm thinking of getting one of these for my WC, which will be boxed with my destroyer. (And Destroyers do go in places where they get stunned a lot, which is one reason I am interested in the Mental Shield SA.)
Just a quick note because many get confused by it. There are two SA with similar names, "Magic Regeneration" and "MP Regeneration". While "MP Regeneration" does what you might think it does (help with MP regen), "Magic Regeneration" gives you the buff "Regeneration" when it activates. And that's the prophet buff which speeds up HP regeneration a little bit.
I have met many players in game which were confused by these SA with "Magic" in the name, like "Magic Regeneration" or "Magic Focus" and thought they would affect MP regen or magic crit rate. Similar problem with "Empower" SA - it does not give you the empower buff, it just increases your matk by a (very) small amount after buffs. The devs really could give the SA some less confusing names.
Actually, I did understand what the Magic Regeneration SA did because I read the description. But, your right, the term itself is a little mis-leading.
Mental shield does not protect against stun - you'll need an EE for that.
They trigger with good single-target buffs - you might have to spam soulshield on your destro a bit.
Destroyer don't get soulshield. The best "good magic" skill to spam for Destroyers is probably Bandage; although I'm not sure that Bandage is classified as magic or physical skill. Anyone know? I have an SoES with Bless Body on another character so I can test it out later.
Mental shield does not protect against stun - you'll need an EE for that.
They trigger with good single-target buffs - you might have to spam soulshield on your destro a bit.
Destroyer don't get soulshield. The best "good magic" skill to spam for Destroyers is probably Bandage; although I'm not sure that Bandage is classified as magic or physical skill. Anyone know? I have an SoES with Bless Body on another character so I can test it out later.
Hint... unless something has changed, physical skills were changed to work like magic skills when it comes to SAs.
It has to be a skill which affects one target, or is self-only.
Toggles do not count.
yeah
cure bleed is counted as "good magic"
and any stun is counted as "bad magic"
all physical skills
my lvl 24 dorf alt actually landed para on an A grade mage useing a ghoul staff with magic para and lvl 1 stun attack O.o
which now that i think of it shouldnt have happened
despite the really low land rate weapon SA's shouldnt work out of grade
do buff sticks work out of grade?
That's interesting. I did not know that. I knew that you could buff yourself with buffstaff using bandage, but not that you could land magic paralyze using stun O_o Good to know.
is really bad that OL cant use those SA's or the other offensive type. sometimes i think that NC forgot about the orcs when they were creating the usefulness of SA.
is really bad that OL cant use those SA's or the other offensive type. sometimes i think that NC forgot about the orcs when they were creating the usefulness of SA.
afaik every class in game can use buff sticks
prove me wrong
is really bad that OL cant use those SA's or the other offensive type. sometimes i think that NC forgot about the orcs when they were creating the usefulness of SA.
Look at the OL spell list (or should I say shaman list) again...
Before they changed this, OL could use Buff sticks.
OL can use "bad magic" SAs easy with both their stun AND numerous spells.
I don't get how you could possibly think OL don't have single-target spells for offense and defense. (no it is not their toggles)
Are you sure it landed para with your level 24 dwarf? I experienced that SAs do not work with characters below C grade at all.
yeah hence the confusion in my post
the lvl 24 dorf was selling the staff for me and while at the arena i sent him to stun someone
i had no idea weapon sa's worked with stun and it never occured to me the weapon was out of grade
Are you sure it landed para with your level 24 dwarf? I experienced that SAs do not work with characters below C grade at all.
yeah hence the confusion in my post
the lvl 24 dorf was selling the staff for me and while at the arena i sent him to stun someone
i had no idea weapon sa's worked with stun and it never occured to me the weapon was out of grade
hmmm.. maybe later I'll put my btb staff on one of my d graders and see if i can get the buff to activate - if it will, it means that only the "passive" type SAs don't work (acumen, mp up, conv) but the active ones (triggered by good or bad magic or skills) do..
hmmm.. maybe later I'll put my btb staff on one of my d graders and see if i can get the buff to activate - if it will, it means that only the "passive" type SAs don't work (acumen, mp up, conv) but the active ones (triggered by good or bad magic or skills) do..
i still have the para staff so i'll check that out when i get a chance too, might take abit longer though
I think infernal form can be used without fists. So he could have used that. This skill was implemented after I abandoned my tyrant, so I don't know for sure.