Support classes: what if ...

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Hehe yet another "balance thread?" Not really: what if poor performance of so called support classes, namely healers and buffers, is intentional from marketing point of view? Every DD is crappy without support -> has to get another account. Every buffer is crappy without DD ... so either rolls another toon on another account, or stops playing, yet account is still active for some mysterious reason? That's 2x more active accounts for statistics + 2x more earnings per month :D
Can I have some of what you are smoking? I know you must have written this when you first woke up. :-)
It's an interesting theory, but it comes up a bit short.

The majority of players in the world are not going to play multiple accounts (2box). Instead they will just quit and go play something else that doesn't require you to have two accounts.

I guess it's not out of the question to design a game for the minority, but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense either.
^^
I'd have to agree with that. .not everyone has the capability (hardware wise) or ability to effectively 2 box.
I like being still needed in groups for Emp, Recharge and VR. .but I wish the sleep nerf woudn't have hit so hard. . that did give me something fun and active to do when in groups. Althouhhhhggg. . Sasha gave me an awesome idea for a setup that I'm hoping to get <drools at the dual kats>

Hehe yet another "balance thread?" Not really: what if poor performance of so called support classes, namely healers and buffers, is intentional from marketing point of view? Every DD is crappy without support -> has to get another account. Every buffer is crappy without DD ... so either rolls another toon on another account, or stops playing, yet account is still active for some mysterious reason? That's 2x more active accounts for statistics + 2x more earnings per month :D

the problem is not in the skills of the healers to perform DD duties. any healer can solo. it takes good gear, and a bit of practice but every EVERY healer can solo.

the problem is how you choose to play.

everyone wants to DD.

given that, nobody wants to be second fiddle.

but everyone wants someone to be second fiddle so that the primary DD can shine.

this is completely wrong thinking. if you want to DD, play a DD. nobody says you NEED to play 9 accounts just to make 1 dd actually work to your satisfaction.

NC didnt gimp healers. healers can play their classes solo no problem. ive done it.

but everyone wants the upper hand for pvp. so those that can, have. the haves are those with buff slaves, the have-nots are without. it goes right along with the "skillless pvp system" thread. buffs = win for many. the have-nots just need to counter the buffs with (dare i say it) the opponent unawares.
Yes, every healer can solo.

But, you know what? I party dwarves to boost my exp rates.
healers are a must at end game...i don't care what anyone says. there was a siege the weekend, and the side that won, was the one with high level healers, for heals and reses...
they are a must, you just don't have the right group if you feel like you're not wanted
actually I feel wanted. . just want a more active role :)
I have to agree with Bighands on that. More players than not will leave in frustration rather than 2 box by force.

It takes (imo) a special type of player to take the healer class as main through to end-game.

actually I feel wanted. .


Yes. Yes you are. ;)


actually I feel wanted. .


Yes. Yes you are. ;)


awww. . *hugs*
hrm. .your icon reminds me of those EVIL UNICORNS in Enchanted Valley :p
The way I look at L2 is that it's like a basketball team or a soccer team.

The unique thing about those 2 particular team sports is that the offense and defense are both playing at the same time. There are quite a few plays in basketball where the defensive players score some points, and even in soccer it's not completely unheard of for the defense to make a goal.

In L2, the offense and defense are also on the field at the same time, except it's **** near impossible for the defensive players to score.

In a game where the competition is so keen, it's kind of tough to find people to play strictly defense.
That's fantastic CANDY MOUNTAIN!! lol

Yeah ok sure healers can solo, we can. But I'd like other players to solo like a healer would then. That means a HE (for example) soloing (that means NO DUAL BOX) self buffed, with no STR tats, (healers can't touch int to nuke), with a shot range of 300. Fun huh? loads.
Tinfoil hat? Every Bishops have one!

C'mon guys you can actually group a Bishop without catching flu, ebola or dysentery. They are safe, they wash, they change cloth, they brush their teeth and some of them even perfume themselves!

:)

your icon reminds me of those EVIL UNICORNS in Enchanted Valley



Actually they are the good unicorns...we're just the evil ******** that go kill them.
here we go again. you want a HE to solo as good/bad as a healer? so what would the point be to have DDs then? if the healers do as much damage as DDs a party could just have 8 healers and a buffer. ultimate party. OR, give all DDs healing abilitys, and able to buff themself and others...
cant we just agree on buffers are meant for buffs, healers to heal, and DDs to do damage? plz?
dont like to heal? dont play a healer. there are plenty of ppl that LIKE to play healers...they dont have that desire to kill stuff. and if they have, play 2 toons. (not talking about boxing)
personally i play a sps and a se both live, yes i 2 box, but i like playing both equally. SEs still have decent healing ability, i think it would of been nice if NC soft wouldn't have nerfed the greater heals, they should of just given EE/bishops better heals (major heals). Its deffinitly harder to get parties for a SE though :-/
If the SE heals weren't changed they would still be good for 90% of all parties and higher heals for bishops/ee's would have been even more overkill and still not needed in most PVE.

And no Heart, I was saying that if people say healers can solo, try it on a normally great soloing class but nerf it down to gimp healer soloing skills.

I LIKE TO HEAL. That's not the point, at all. What I don't like is not having the skillset that people want in party and being completely and utterly SOL for exp unless some DD class wants me in group.