Alternative seeds

I bought some alternative crops recenlty, I noticed that they plant wery rarely on monsters (i planted 80 seeds on lvl 34 mobs, thus only suceeded... 7 times, the max lvl on the crop is 33)... So are they really so useless? Or are there some special thingies that im not aware of?

They do have lower success rate, but that sounds really bad :eek:

Are you sure the mobs are the right level for the seeds?

Back when I did manor, I noticed that the alternative seeds some times have slightly different level requirements than what is stated.

I checked and found out that those monsters there even lover lvl , 31. I was using simple desert codas on them before, chanse of sucsess was about 90-95% i think.

crop lvl - x-33, mob lvl - 31, my lvl - 34. And only 7/80 there sucessfull.

Then I think it's because you're too high level. I'm not in game right now, to look at the seeds, but afaik, you will have penalty if you're higher level than the seed.

I checked and found out that those monsters there even lover lvl , 31. I was using simple desert codas on them before, chanse of sucsess was about 90-95% i think.

crop lvl - x-33, mob lvl - 31, my lvl - 34. And only 7/80 there sucessfull.

best sucsess rate will be if you are the same lvl as the mob and the seed is the same lvl as the mob. i think. lol :D

i think its penalty from +5 and -5 in lvls from seed

alternates benefit from obtaining mats as well as being able to be harvested.

Forget about alternative seeds. They simply aren't worth it. If you want drops too, you can try using normal seeds and rotating like: seed 3 mobs and then don't seed the next 3 (and repeat cycle). That will give you some drops too.

PS: A little comment on seeding. Even if you use normal seeds and the seeder, the seed and the mob are exactly the same level, seeding is still not 100% guaranteed (but chances are more than 90%). Alternative seeds have much worse chances. That's why nobody uses them.

Alternative are good when you're in a party, so you don't kill drops for other party members

Alternative seeds worth the effrts if:
* their price is low (100% off base or lower)
* their buyback price is high (150% off base or higher)
* you are in melee party
* you kill fat mobs (x4 or higher)
* you have excessive mp to spend yet another 7-10mp per mob

Alternative seeds of about 60 level (i.e. Alternative x Codran) land like 30% provided mobs are x2-x3, you are about 60 lvl and mobs are about 60 lvl. Cobas have good enough land rate too.
Alternative codas have like 10% land rate or lower. They are mostly for people who can't use regular seeds.

Thanks for answers, there is few other things about manor that i would like to know.

1. Does the [tally up integnious... whatever...] window refreshes by itself, or do i have to reenter it every time if i want to see the current data. Same goes to the [Buy crops] window.

2. Whats up with that "manor is currently under maintanance?" it really makes the whole seed buying and crop delivering process hard...

1. you have to refresh it manually.
2. when it says "under maintinence" then you know that you are in the 5 minute window right after the castle has been taken over but before the seeds re up for sale. keep spamming the wondow until it says "you failed trading in 34534 red codas"
3. there is no benifit, in this game, to doing something halfway. alternative seeds are just one example.