Armor Grades and levels

Hello, i need to know the level requirements of different grades of armor.

As far as i can tell;

-in the beginnig of the game; you can only use NO-grade armor.

-at level 20, you get the ability to use; ''D'' grade armor.

-at level :confused:??, you get the ability to use; ''C'' grade armor.

-at level :confused:??, you get the ability to use; ''B'' grade armor.

-at level :confused:??, you get the ability to use; ''A'' grade armor.

**and finally, i am really curious about at what lv you get the option of using :confused:'S' grade armor,

PLz help, thx!

Ng 0,20,40,52,61,76 S

Ng 0,20,40,52,61,76 S

Got it, thank you.

this is not to say that you will have D grade gear at 20, C at 40, B at 52 and A at 61. you only get top gear for next grade when you learn how to make enough money. i doubt youll be in the best of the NG gear at 20 let alone have LOW d gear.

perhaps post your server, clans will help you gear up.

this is not to say that you will have D grade gear at 20, C at 40, B at 52 and A at 61. you only get top gear for next grade when you learn how to make enough money. i doubt youll be in the best of the NG gear at 20 let alone have LOW d gear.

perhaps post your server, clans will help you gear up.

Ok, at first, i didnt understant what you meant by the quote above,,, than i checked the prices of weps/armor in the newbie village, and OMG, ur RIGHT! The prices are INSANE---'ISH.... :D
Ahh, but really, how am i suppesed to afford that stuff ??
Im a casual player at most, i honestly, really can't spend that much time grinding for cash. :(
And i really like the game so far, so i dont want to quit, either.

I COULD ask for help gearing up, from clans, as per se your recommendation, for which i am THAnkful, but asking for something like that,,

i dont know, i never asked for something like that, ever,, in a game, so guess i cant do that either..

BUT i get your point, so thak you for your advice, Spudnik!

Well, the game wasn't designed for you to need top d-grade equipment at level 20. Sure, it would make your leveling easier, but when we all first started, we used NG and low d-grade stuff well in our low 30s.

There are two things you can do to legitly make more money. The first is to learn that money is extremely important in L2, so hunt in places which give you more adena / monster. There are plenty of quests that can give you either adena or items you can sell for adena, I suggest you look into those.

Also, higher level monsters give more adena, so a 1.5 million weapon now might look impossible to reach, but once you hit level 36 or 40, you'll realize it's not that bad.

Second thing that can work well is by crafting or buy/resell. Once you get a bit of money, look around the shops in towns and try buying stuff you see that is cheaper than average, and sell it at the average price. Materials are good examples of things that vary a lot in prices, so are crystals. If you make an artisan character also, at level 20 you can break d-grade weapons and armours into d-crystals that you can resell to other players. You can also look at the tax rates of different towns and go buy some supplies where they are cheaper.

It takes a lot of involvement, but since you don't have a high-level character to hand you down equipment, you have to remember that in lineage II money is at least as important as levels, if not more important.

So don't waste your money on things that will make you level faster (such as soulshots), because when you reach higher levels you'll need to buy equipment with those soulshots you used up.

Also, a lot of events can give great rewards that you can sell to other players at high prices. For example, l2day buff scrolls such as empower and blessed scrolls of resurection can sometimes sell for up to 2 million adena, while less-desired buff scrolls can sell for 200k-800k without much trouble.

One such event was the valentines day event, and you can usually look forward to a similar event for easter, halloween and most other holidays.

Well, the game wasn't designed for you to need top d-grade equipment at level 20. Sure, it would make your leveling easier, but when we all first started, we used NG and low d-grade stuff well in our low 30s.

I've heard this before and it's not exactly true. Yes, the game is designed so that you normally *don't* have gear until well after you can use it. BUT, this is assuming that you are playing the game as the designers *thought* it should be played. Thus nukers can do OK with sub-par gear solo, archers in small groups and melee in larger groups.

And when the game was 'new' and everyone was roughly the same level it was more or less true. (Barring the usual balance/skill idiocies you see in all games.) Now? The majority of players are higher level and even their alts/subs are higher level.

When it comes to solo play to 'catch up' with the other players this mob > (melee) player gear imbalance is pretty obvious. It is bad enough that the devs were pretty much forced to add more 'aids' to solo play such as instant herbs and soon to come 'temporary' weapons in interlude. (If you've played Diablo 2, think 'ethereal'.)

With that said, all isn't doom and gloom, although I think the 'cash makers' of the past are changing again as servers mature.

First off, those who tell you to 'play the market' are living in the past. With the vast majority of people IN A grade and even S grade, the 'boom' market of materials is cooling down. This is good and bad.

Bad because making 'mad cash' overnight from selling overpriced mats isn't a 'sure thing' anymore. And the Ol' buy cheap, sell dear isn't as probably as it used to be.

Good, because it means the RMT style prices are deflating fast and more 'affordable' prices are taking over. As well, cheaper mats mean crafting for use becomes cheaper and more appealing than selling mats and buying overpriced. It also means that a lot of the pressure on the manor is lowered, and it becomes more accessable to those who do need it.

Of course each server's market is a bit different, but from what I've seen even the most crowded servers are 'cooling off'.

Playing 'casual' isn't impossible or even 'hard' really though. You might get less out of 'politics' or sieges than the more 'hardcore' but that doesn't mean the rest of the game is any less for it. (And to some extent, avoiding those who do is it's own reward. =P ) It may take longer to 'get there' but as long as you play smarter rather than harder, I think you'll get more out of the road than those who rush though it do.

As someone who has been playing 'near casual' pretty much since Open Beta, I think you'll find that as long as you don't try to 'keep up with the Joneses' and simply play the game for fun, you can aquire the gear you want just by setting realistic goals and working towards them. By all means, making friends and being a part of a good clan can help that a lot, just be understanding that finding a good clan and being part of one is harder than just walking into Giran and shouting LFC!

Sifting through the player guide forum is a decent place to start followed by your servers forum if your looking for ways to make cash. But here's a few extra tips to get you started.

1)To make cash, level SLOWER. That means green/white mobs and grinding the available quests as much as possible.

2)Use your seven character spots wisely. Handing down gear and leveling another char helps break the grind, lets you try out new classes and adds extra cash.

3)Before diving into the buy/sell of trading, take some time to learn what is more useful, what is useless and what the difference is between the 'NPC price' and the 'market price' of materials and gear.

4)Know what is purchaseable from NPC's and what is not. Giran NPC shops sell the highest D grade and C grade gear you can buy from non-players, and the Blacksmith of Mammon can upgrade your weapons up to top C.

5)B grade weapons are probably going to be your first real 'sticker shock' as they are currently on the the hardest to get/craft. (The drop/spoil/quests on those are still pretty bad.)

Good luck!

As a note, if u find a decent lvl clan who needs rep points. They will most likly inv you into Clan and lend u the 922 d crys necessary for the clan oath armor.

Most clans will pay 922 D crys for the 450+ rep points u give them when u reach lvl 40

As a note, if u find a decent lvl clan who needs rep points. They will most likly inv you into Clan and lend u the 922 d crys necessary for the clan oath armor.

Most clans will pay 922 D crys for the 450+ rep points u give them when u reach lvl 40

Sponsor my next reroll, tok.

2)Use your seven character spots wisely. Handing down gear and leveling another char helps break the grind, lets you try out new classes and adds extra cash.

This is one point that can't be stressed up enough I think. Back in the day where everyone was lower level, there was a big debate between two good ways of making money:

1) Deleveling. Getting yourself killed on guards so you would lose a few levels, and by the time you would regain those levels, you'd have much more money.

2) Rerolling many characters. This is what I considered most fun. When you get a character to level 20, try out a new character that can use it's equipment, and get that one to level 20 also. The second time around will be quicker since you start at level 1 with better gear and once it hits level 20 you'll have the money of having leveled two characters.

As far as your comment on racing to catch up to level 80s, sure you won't be able to catch up to them for a long while and that's to be expected - a lot of people have over 2 years head start - but if you actually enjoy the grind of the game, then gear is less important, or at least you can get gear that enables you to kill green monsters at most levels without too much trouble.

Looking forward to seeing the price on those "ethereal" weapons btw, could be a lot of help for the new players.

Is there a 'definitive' official or fansite that has prices and/or ranges for armor pieces, or perhaps a site that helps identify armor (picture + name association)? I have a specific set of armor I'm after, and want to get specifics on it so I know what to shoot for. I didn't see the armor in 'The Library' that I am looking for, so I assume it is a rare drop/player-made set.

Is there a 'definitive' official or fansite that has prices and/or ranges for armor pieces

Not any official nor approved fan sites unfortunately. If you look up warehouse and lineage 2 on google you should find it.

or perhaps a site that helps identify armor (picture + name association)?

Lineage 2 Official site (http://www.lineage2.com/Knowledge/item.html?category=armor)
If you click on the name of the armor it should bring you to a pic of the armor and then you can choose the toons you want to see it on. Pretty much everything should be in there except a few C5 textures they added.
Fashion Preview as posted on boards (http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=574198&an=0&page=0#Post5 74198)

EDIT: If you have a specific armor your looking for and have a screen shot, post it! Im sure someone can identify it for you.

Actually, as I mentioned originally, I haven't found an exact duplicate of the outfit I want in 'The Library', here on the official site. It looks similar to the Robe of Nightmare set, but its design is more ornate. They do, however, have a pic of it in the screenshots for Chronicle 5:

http://www.lineage2.com/pds/official/screenshots.html?category=15#t1

The second pic in the series. I actually bought the Cerebrus Project resin kit of this particular dark elf, and wanted to see what it would take to acquire the same look.

The site you linked me to, however, listed the price for just the upper piece of the Robe of Nightmare at almost 8 million adena, so doubtless the set I want will probably be in excess of 100 million, I should think.

LOL...at least I know it's not really attainable. Especially since, in all likelihood, I'll be soloing 99% of my time in the game. It's a great looking outfit though, don't you think? At least I know there really is the same outfit in the game. I might be able to somehow squeeze a Sword of Miracles out of the experience, though...looks like those are a bit more common in the game, if only by a small margin.

the library pics are all of sealed armor (different textures). likely the unsealed armor yielding that particular look is tallum robes but im not certain of that at all. EDIT: i am beginning to think thats not tallum, that apella robes.

Actually, as I mentioned originally, I haven't found an exact duplicate of the outfit I want in 'The Library', here on the official site. It looks similar to the Robe of Nightmare set, but its design is more ornate. They do, however, have a pic of it in the screenshots for Chronicle 5:

http://www.lineage2.com/pds/official/screenshots.html?category=15#t1

that there is a raid boss and no we dont have an armor set like that
about as close looking as i think you can get to that is majestic robes on a dark elf
unfortunately due to the competitive nature of L2 more often than not you chose armor based on armor bonii then their actual looks

unfortunately due to the competitive nature of L2 more often than not you chose armor based on armor bonii then their actual looks

I dont !
I absolutely dont :p
I spent an insane amount of time looking for a Rind Leather armor when i hit C-Grade, although i was a Shillien Knight and supposed to wear havy armor :)
But the Rind looked soooo beautiful :o
One important part of this game (to me at least) is the graphics, so yes the look is very important !
Besides, it's a good way to differentiate ourselves, i dont wanna look like the other 23658 full-plate-wearing dark elves :eek:

at C grade robes for a fighter would prolly work
at A grade when the difference between armor might be as much as 20% more DPS its kinda hard to pick the good looking set
lucky for me everything looks good on a dorf ^^

lucky for me everything looks good on a dorf ^^

So True and so not fair
Nothing can look bad on a female dwarf.

That second pic might be appela robes as someone mentioned, Ill have to check tonight when I get back. If is it, its probably the hardest set to get in game, good pick! lol

unfortunately due to the competitive nature of L2 more often than not you chose armor based on armor bonii then their actual looks

I dont !
I absolutely dont :p
I spent an insane amount of time looking for a Rind Leather armor when i hit C-Grade, although i was a Shillien Knight and supposed to wear havy armor :)
But the Rind looked soooo beautiful :o
One important part of this game (to me at least) is the graphics, so yes the look is very important !
Besides, it's a good way to differentiate ourselves, i dont wanna look like the other 23658 full-plate-wearing dark elves :eek:



that's why my bd wears dwarven chain mail. it looks great! :D

that there is a raid boss and no we dont have an armor set like that

Do you happen to know the name of the raid boss? Or maybe where she's located? Also, there IS a similar outfit (though I'm sure nowhere near the stats) called 'Robe of Nightmare'...it has the same basic design, though not as ornate as what the raid boss is wearing.

cerbres were you referring to the lady darkelf pic? or the first pic? the dark elf i think is apella armor (a grade clan only) but the raid boss is scarlet von hallisha (1st incarnation iirc) which is part of the frintessa raid. acheivable with a MASSIVE number or S grade archers.

cerbres were you referring to the lady darkelf pic? or the first pic? the dark elf i think is apella armor (a grade clan only) but the raid boss is scarlet von hallisha (1st incarnation iirc) which is part of the frintessa raid. acheivable with a MASSIVE number or S grade archers.

Actually, yes, you are correct. I was referring to the Dark Elf...I apologize for all the confusion:

http://www.lineage2.com/pds/official/pictures/15_8.jpg

But yes, that also answers my question, thank you Spudnik. A grade Apella clan armor. Is it actual armor or just ceremonial?

its armor. the koreans wanted a pvp armor so they made apella. the downside is their pvp is far different from our pvp. apella sets all have the same types of bonuses; the debuff your attacker the way a phantom cubic would, and give CP regen bonus. thats it. no wit modifiers, no str, no hp, nothing of anything useful during combat. just CP regen. most clans that can get apella sets will only pull them out for photo shoots.

--most clans that can get apella sets will only pull them out for photo shoots.

Ah, I see. Right, then. Fair enough, as I suppose Clans are fairly picky on whom they allow to join (being that there is a limit on members), I'm sure there are very few sets of these indeed.

At any rate, thank you Spudnik. And my apologies to XxKrelianxX for hijacking their thread.

Has any clan made a full Apella set yet... they cost a crap ton of rep points.(and you have to be a lvl 8 clan I believe).

ive seen 6 clans accross 3 servers with apella sets on at least 3 people in each so far. on lionna i saw one vendoring apella set for 150m. comparatively cheap for an A grade armor set.

but as i said that was for photoshoots and such.

ive seen 6 clans accross 3 servers with apella sets on at least 3 people in each so far. on lionna i saw one vendoring apella set for 150m. comparatively cheap for an A grade armor set.

but as i said that was for photoshoots and such.

So it costs 150 millions and its only good for taking screenshots with ?? Holy macromoly!! What a rip off!!
TOO BAD, too, since i chose the path of a dark elf (knight) and i really think Apella looks so **** good on DE's.

****, just when i thought that there was finaLLY a really sweet looking A grade for DE's, i learn that its pretty much useless,,,
AND, IN MY OPINION, as the S grade (heavy) looks bad on Dark Elfs, too, that makes two whole grades of high end armor that looks like crap, crap..

So why did i choose a DE to play as ? because i like their skills, playing style, culture, and whatnot.,,,, but seems there is a trade-off in the end.

PainAmplifier;
Thank you for the detailed explanation about the games economy, although, im still not used to some stuff, since im a newb, it still helps out and appriciated.

All of you advices are definetly worth taking heed of, but as i am right now, even if tried playing the market, i would probably loose lotsa cash and fail miserably, :)) heheh.

And by the way, i as just wondering, what is a ''sealed'' armor ?

Grazzt :
I am REALLY GLAD that, at least, out of thousands of players out there, FINALLY somebody thinks ALIKE with me. :)'

I, too put heavy emphasis on the way armor looks, EVEN IF it's a pvp game and a mmo..... i know, i know, so its not such a good idea, but i cannot stop myself, gotta try and get the coolest-looking gear.

And....
Cerebres,
No worries, m8. :)
You werent really off topic, IMHO, considering that you were still discusing some armor issues, and thats fine with me.

But all in all, if thats the jiggy wih apella, im really disappointed, ahh, but no point in be%&#ing abut it :)

And from what i have been told here, and what i've been hearing, there is alack of high-grade armor anyways, AND (once again **IMHO**)
=LINEAGE IS ALL ABOUT LOOKING COOL :cool: AND KICKING *** (player ***, mostly, in this case :D )


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So, me thinks they GOTTA add some more armor variants for higher levels, such as B,A, and S grades, AND especially S, and A, considering, there are actually quite-a many high level players who could benefit from them RIGHT AWAY, and newbs like ME would have MUCH MORE to look forward to!! ;)
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PainAmplifier;
Thank you for the detailed explanation about the games economy, although, im still not used to some stuff, since im a newb, it still helps out and appriciated.

All of you advices are definetly worth taking heed of, but as i am right now, even if tried playing the market, i would probably loose lotsa cash and fail miserably, :)) heheh.

And by the way, i as just wondering, what is a ''sealed'' armor ?

Glad to be of help. L2 is hard enough, that helping others makes the game easier. =D

As for "Sealed" armor, this is related to A and B grade armor and Boot/gloves/Jewels.

For B grade, only boots and gloves are sealed. They drop or are crafted in this state. Being 'sealed' they do not have a heavy/light/robe status. You take them to a town blacksmith and he will "unseal" them into their respective armor types for free. This means that you can complete any B "armor set" simply by unsealing your gloves/boots into the type you need, and it only takes one craft recipe/parts for all three types. The blacksmith will also 're-seal' items for you freely. Thus you can buy "Doom Boots:Robe" and turn them into "Doom Boots:Heavy" just by talking to the Blacksmith in a town.

In A grade things are roughly the same but 'harder'. Only the Blacksmith of Mammon can Unseal A grade and he charges a fee in Ancient Adena to do so. (I think he can reseal boots/gloves for a fee also, but am not 100% certain.) However, not only are your gloves/boots sealed for A grade, but ALL armor and Jewels are as well. Unsealing your Jewelry also increases their stats slightly. Your main armor pieces must be unsealed as well, but unlike boots or gloves they do not unseal into another armor type. (heavy/robe/light.)

S grade is like A grade, although the limits (One set of each type) means that everything just 'unseals' into what it already is.

NOTE: "Sealed" items do NOT count towards 'completing' an armor set. Thus if you want all the set bonuses you MUST unseal the items into their correct types.