hello,our lvl 5 clan(with clan skills) is currently looking for new members,lvl 50+.We have just finished a long out war.Which has settled,but we loss some good members.Our academy is full at the moment,if you would like you can join our alliances.
Pm or mail ingame - Lehas .It would be a joy to see new faces ^^
We would like you to have a mic since we use ventrilo (even the alliances).Rifting,raids are done pretty much everyday.Thank you :eek:
We had a member by the name KillToy .Months ago he left "Thepooch"s clan..Him and any other clan he is with will be KOS.Our clan had about 12 clans after..even more that didnt declare war.That is why we had so many people looking for our locs.
Last night we asked Killtoy to leave our clan.Even though we injoyed his company.We lost 3 members and his alts.
But we had to think about our other members..lose a few or the whole clan.
Being an officer for Wood(leader) along with LordDRR..we tried our best to fix what has happened.So now we are recruiting again ^^.With no one hunting us down.
Killtoy is KOS to Nova as well. I believe he has other characters in PTPtigers too, did they leave as well? I wonder if this means that Nova will no longer be KOSing PTPTigers???
"Even though we injoyed his company.We lost 3 members and his alts."
His alts being the keyword I guess. Although I'd imagine they would dearly love to know if he has other alts they do not know about in the clan, as it would be a shame to remove a troublemaker and still be KoS due to a unknown alt that the person slipped in under the radar.
their alliance was KOS for supporting him in clan for many months... just cause they kicked him now doesnt get them off the hook.
Very good point :)
However now that they've made a effort to get rid of the bad apple(s), surely they should be given perhaps some slack.. after all the goal isnt to remove people from the game, just to get them to do what you want, which likely was..get rid of the idiot.
dude stop bashin KILLTOY
i dunno what he did to all you ppl, but i know for sure everytime i partied with him, he was nice and generous and never a ******
i dealt with countless gank squads after me while i was with him
and my small clan got warred by 2 of NoComp's clans due to this
but who cares, i still would never bash him because of it or ask him to leave my clan if he ever was in it
imo whatever he did to you guys (the ppl KoS'ing him) needs to just be forgotten, its a game no need to outcast ppl just cause they did something a long time ago
either way, good luck PTP and such you guys are starting to fall apart, i hope you get back together and going again
For one we like Killtoy and yes his alts ARE GONE.We are a ventrilo only clan.If you don't come on and talk with your members name.Then you aren't in the clan.So he is GONE and we don't party,raids etc with him.
We did not have 2 clans after us..we had 12 against 31 clan members.Killtoy offered weeks ago to leave if it was too hard on the other members.He had no bad feelings towards us.
It is up to Killtoy and whoever doesn't like him.Not us...We are now just filling in the old members spots.
So anyone that wants to join our clan is welcome ^^.
Falling apart?? o.O we lost 4 members and alts...not a big thing.
killtoy is perma KOS to our clan Stripclub forever. He has stolen items worth over 300mil adena and I believe that is the reason he is so actively PKed on bartz as he has scammed items from many people.
Killtoy can be off KOS when we receive payment of 300mil from him.
EDIT: any clan that Killtoy joins is put on KOS till he is removed.
Well Killtoy is not in our clan anymore.I can give you a screenshot of our clan list to prove it.Wood would like the war taken off our clan,since the other clans have done so. ^^
Wow..300mil.How did he manage to get those items?First i've heard of it.
the stories of Killtoy (summary and not very detailed but u get the idea):
- caused much trouble in one of his first clans/alliances (Blood alliance, the 2nd coming not the original blood, lead by Blackshadow), decided to start stuff with much larger clans when alliance leader told him to back off
- apparently (I don't know details) scammed a 'good friend' of his, and in the end that friend quit the game
- PKs a party member of a SC group, SC party defends and ends up with 1 red (killtoy was red so we didn't go red on him), killtoy comes back and drops the red and took the drops... at the time he was in Crusaders (I think) and that was the trigger that started the Crusader/Stripclub war
- killtoy leaves in the middle of war after being killed over and over again, he thinks he can get away with it if he left the clan stripclub was at war with... obviously he thought wrong and SC continued to kos him until he got the drops back (note: I heard from unconfirmed reports that at one point Silver3ye tried to convince killtoy to return the items, but killtoy refused to)
- after the wars...etc. killtoy joined PTPTigers... no idea why but yea, PTPTigers were warned at first of killtoy's kos status and PTPTigers decided to back killtoy, which I find acceptable. PTPTigers then found that his enemies count seems to never cease to increase and booted him from clan.
- and here we are discussing him o.o
Killtoy also enjoyed extended trash-talking sessions about his battle powers, and then when he found out the lowest-level members in the clan he didn't like he'd go and PK them exclusively because anything within ten levels of him would take him apart. He's a walking armpit.
I was on at the time...and queenarrow and swordruler (lvl50)..All in REDEMPTION! where kicked and pked out of their hunting spot by stripclub.Queen was told by ME to NOT go back..and he wouldnt listen.I am not in redemption so I can not KICK him from the clan.Quikshot came with queenarrow and swordruler...so make sure no one killed them in a new area.But stripclub attacked queenarrow and quik dropped him..then was dropped by stripclub.
Queenarrow will do what he wants but PTPTigers will not fight back for something so stupid as this.
Allying with Redemption may have been your first mistake. Honestly...how many times has that clan had to be reformed? New leader or not, seems like a bad move. :p Good luck.
to answer your question they pked our members over a dipute for hunting spot, they were strait out pked with no atttempt to fight back. swordrulerr did pay 2 brez to compensate. and we did go and pk them afterwards for retaliation, before it was resolved.
next time their will be no way out, so If any member in your alliance even attacks us, its a war to the end.
Okay...-.- so queenarrow did pk your members because they were taking his hunting spot.I have no idea what redemption will do that member.It's out of my hands..this is PTPtigers forum.
One question...it took stripclub 2 1/2 weeks to take war off of ptpigers after killtoy left (playmate etc took it off the night he left) also our leader was dropped by a stripclub member which he went red.Do we get a brez for that?
Okay...-.- so queenarrow did pk your members because they were taking his hunting spot.I have no idea what redemption will do that member.It's out of my hands..this is PTPtigers forum.
One question...it took stripclub 2 1/2 weeks to take war off of ptpigers after killtoy left (playmate etc took it off the night he left) also our leader was dropped by a stripclub member which he went red.Do we get a brez for that?
You heard about the terms of surrender they gave Divinity right? Granted, Div deserved the stomping they got, but LOL. Good luck getting a brez or anything for that matter.
I don't really care what happens in other clans unless it has something to do with the one I'm in.
I'm not the leader and people seem great at first until something happens.We'll have to wait for the right one...redemption has good members,but queenarrow doesn't like to be pushed around and if the leader isn't on.No one can kick him or what not.
Every clan as a bad apple that you'll have to deal with.
Teens and older players take things too seriously.
It's a game,not your life.
Not true thos guys where hunting there for 2 hours.Then your guys come in to try and take there hunting spot sounds low for such a big clan.I would PK you too.
I was not there and I was lied to by queenarrow at the time all this went on...and "your guys?" they are not in PTPtigers...so you should be saying redemption's members(or going to their thread).Queenarrow has been kicked from that clan.So it should be the end of it.
all im gona do is laugh sorry Lehas but i have to **** it must be hard having to deal with your clan and redemptions crap...hahahahahahahahahaha...... um yeah
PTPTigers is a good clan and have good people in it.Same with redemption.The problem with this game is that some people take the game to hart.Just get over it and play the game to have fun.
Yeah I enjoyed Woods, Lehas and cerl3erus company you see roch i never said they were a bad clan its just the crap these two clans have to dig through i mean look at the idiot bobtheglad what he caused for redemption. Yet redemption has its good players. just on the outside looking in.
Ohhh so now I am an idiot and you were playing stupid acting cool around me and stuff lol.. So why exactly am I stupid.. What I used to get little drunk a bit and stuff. I don't get it buddy why talk about people you hardly know.. Anyways back on to the subject this whole POST was about.. PTP Tigers currently picking up 50+ PM wood & Lehas for more information. Thank you!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH ok so you have changed a bit
well congrats on that didn't know but my opinion is based off of others. On the fact that you were as disruptive as killtoy lol but peeps change and so i offer an apology sorry bob cause you were cool to hangout with and your right i dont know anything about you so again i apologize and hope im not on any kos list lol and if i am i can understand^^
I havn't changed I just don't drink as much because school now.. guess you can call that a change lol anyways sorry that I liked to party little bit ..
Since playmates saw one of our members with Killtoy.We have been put on KOS again -.-.Funny thing is..a member from Dominus was in that group.They declared war after killtoy's group got the rift raidboss before they did (its a random thing!).We were told that Killtoy had to be out of our clan for the KOS to be taken off about a month ago.They said NOTHING about not being able to rift with him and other players.So my question is...why not declare war on Dominus..is it because we are an easier target?Very sad...
If you know hes bad news (and apparently he is, got my why but whatever...), then hanging around with him and helping him probably isnt the wisest idea if you want to stay on people's good sides.
We arent helping him.Lorddrr was there tankin the raid boss.he is friends with Gorcon which was there and he's in another clan, they werent declared war on.I'm just asking...why ptptigers? because we are small?
and for starters we are at war with ambereye because their academy members continued to attack our academy members..then asked a graders to come kill them.We didn't really care about that part.But our friend was an untagged buffer just helping our acads lvl and she was dropped for no reason.She was just sitting there...so we asked for one brez for her and got no reply.Also we added realitycheck to that list to be kicked out of ambereye.He was in our clan but got ****** when he went after 5 ambereye and got dropped along with his bot buffers.Two other members were on at the time..and couldnt help him.The rest were in bed.He later on had Quikshot get our leaders BO dagger and then took off with it.After that he joined ambereye so he wouldn't lose 4% only 1%.
Like I said, I'm not sure, I just stumbled across the post on Blah. Could go there and read the thread, its about half way down the page on the Bartz forum.
Posting here (or there for that matter) typically dosent do anything but inflame the situation as it is.. email the leader in a respectfull way and see where it gets you would be my advice :)
Right now Playmates are saying that we went back on our word about lvling with killtoy.What I was saying..not wood..was that we as a CLAN don't lvl with him etc.That was a month ago..it wasnt a promise or anything.One member did a rift with Killtoy...OOOOO big whoop there.Go red all you want...one of your members has already dropped an items.We'll just take more ^^.You can't tell people on this game who they can lvl with. :p
TK was in aden today for a long time on a wyvern and i heard tons of people saying she was KoS, didnt bother to check ally's/clan's that they were in cause i dont really care, but still sounds like they might have problems of their own and leave you guys alone
and yeah seriously, cant just tell people how to play the game, doesn't work that way
Go red all you want...one of your members has already dropped an items.We'll just take more ^^.You can't tell people on this game who they can lvl with. :p
Sounds like you really dont want to end the war then, but rather inflame it more.
Yeah,well so far they've only come in large groups about 8 vs 3 or 4.We wont flag back..they are the ones that have to do the quest if not..the other clans or ours will get the items.
For one we like Killtoy and yes his alts ARE GONE.We are a ventrilo only clan.If you don't come on and talk with your members name.Then you aren't in the clan.So he is GONE and we don't party,raids etc with him.
None of us have ever lost any gear to you due to being red, and if you really think that "not fighting back" is going to be a deterance for us killing you, your sadly mistaken. You attempted this in the past and it failed. It costs us nothing to do a sin eater in a buff round, when we get the satisfaction of killing you and your members for lying to us.
We declared on PTPTIGERS not Dominus because it has nothing to DO with Dominus. You stated before you wouldn't support and help Killtoy in any form or fashion, yet your clan has been. So whats the difference if he has your tag or not? Your still treating him as a member, so we've declared war both on you and the clan that Killtoy is currently in.
Enjoy the 4 percents, and to all the new recruits of PTPTIGERS, expect to be pk'd if you join them. Since their leaders are incapable of staying by their word. PTPTIGERS / SyndicateReborn has a history of bad relations since the forming of their clan / allies, so its no surprise that we continue to fight you.
If you want to portray yourselves as a clan that don't defend themselves in a pvp game, then by all means, go ahead and continue with your carebear attitude and reroll on Teon.
Till then, We'll enjoy killing you. See you in game, Goodluck and maybe we'll actually get a good fight?
We did not lie..you asked us to de-tag him,And we as a CLAN dont support him etc..it was ONE member that was in a rift with him.So that justifies your stupid actions?I wrote before that we don't lvl,rift etc with him.That was hmmmm over a month or so ago.Which we don't..have you ever seen a large group of us with him? doing a raid,rift etc? NO! because we don't.....we will not be like you and tell our member who they can and cannot lvl with.It is a game..treat it as one and stop telling people what to do.We will not declare war, once you hit lvl 80 you can't do the sin eater quest.Enjoy it
Good fight? 8 high lvls against 2 b-grades...nice logic there ^^
To add to this...we have recently gotten a list of people that lvl with killtoy etc that are in Clans...so does that mean you are going after them?Because if you think one member of a clan is the WHOLE clan..then you should go after them too.Seems to be what you are saying.Also I was not talking to you at the start of this thread,I was talking to people who asked why so many people were after us. :p
Keep your business between You and Killtoy and stop bugging other people with it.I'm sorry for whatever he did..but that has nothing to do with other players.
To add to this...we have recently gotten a list of people that lvl with killtoy etc that are in Clans...so does that mean you are going after them?Because if you think one member of a clan is the WHOLE clan..then you should go after them too.Seems to be what you are saying.Also I was not talking to you at the start of this thread,I was talking to people who asked why so many people were after us. :p
Refer to my previous quote stating you guys would not support him. The only reason we're going after you is because you went back on what you said, and your not very intelligent if you think I'm refering to "one instance". I've caught you guys with him on several occasions, but I ignored it till that one day when there were foul things being said in shout one night towards us by Killtoy and members of PTP. So I declared again. Problem? I don't think so. Its part of the game.
Deal with it.
If not I hear WoW is on sale right now at Best Buy.
P.S. I've dealt with Dominus leadership in terms of that one person from Dominus that does support PTPTIGERS / Killtoy and I have the go ahead to freely kill that individual anytime he is caught helping them against us without the support from Dominus.
oh word, cause i heard that the one kill that you got off of "that dominous" player was your one freebie and that if you touch him again you'll have all sorts of fun heading your way
....oh and that wasn't from the leader of dominous that was from the leader of immotalleg
but hey what do i know, clans protecting their members ...psssh never
oh word, cause i heard that the one kill that you got off of "that dominous" player was your one freebie and that if you touch him again you'll have all sorts of fun heading your way
....oh and that wasn't from the leader of dominous that was from the leader of immotalleg
but hey what do i know, clans protecting their members ...psssh never
Well I do know that our one member was and is the only one that parties with Killtoy(rifting).But if you want to continue this.Go ahead,im not wasting my time on someone who has such a short temper and KOS people for smack talking back.If you start the smack talking then deal with the replys.
I'm sure you would hate a larger clan attacking yours because one of your members were seen in a party with a member of their KOS list.
I'm sure UR and the others will enjoy coming to get the reds ...think of all the drops.You even attack untagged people that are just sitting near us.Can you run fast enough to the rift to get rid of your karma? :p
Playmates just want ptp to war back too get rep ponts.Thats all theres nuthing like 8 lvl70+ going after 2 50+ now how can you make that a good fight. PS.Playmate=Retarted KIDS!!!
oh word, cause i heard that the one kill that you got off of "that dominous" player was your one freebie and that if you touch him again you'll have all sorts of fun heading your way
....oh and that wasn't from the leader of dominous that was from the leader of immotalleg
but hey what do i know, clans protecting their members ...psssh never
Are you just naturally stupid? Is that a prerequisite to joining your dead clan? Gorcon is a member of ImmortalLegends, therefor I talked to ImmortalLegends leadership, and I also spoke to November who is the Alliance leader, he himself says its Immortal Legends call on what to do in this situation. And IL Leadership has stated anytime Gorcon is with PTPTigers / SyndicateReborn and assisting against us he's free game to kill. Since he's fighting a war under someone elses tag he will not get any support from his alliance, what part of that don't you understand? Or shall I paint a picture?
And if you think we're warring you for rep points?? We're warring you because of our history of bad relations and deceptions you guys continue to cook up.
And lol at UR stealing our stuff like you claim, Shandi de-red'd me last time I was red from killing one of you guys, and incase your not sure who that is, its a UR member.
Well just have to wait and see.We lasted against 12 clans...this will be my last comment to all of this garbage.
I'll state this again
1. We did not promise to you anything.You asked for us to detag him.We did,End of story.
2. I really don't care what you do.
You don't care what we do? Sweet, can I join your clan? I'd love to be a part of a clan that doesn't defend themselves. Sign me up.
And Roch, don't post if you don't know the history, from an outside perspective it may look like we're picking on a "lower clan" If by lower you consider a lvl5 clan with A grade users in it "lower" considering we are the same. But we have a bad history with this clan and its members, and we're fighting them now for reasons other then "personal reasons". As stated before, if you don't like it. don't play the game.
I don't see you complaining that Uprising is warring smaller clans, by your definition Uprising should remain at peace forever because every clan on the server right now is weaker then them.
Well just have to wait and see.We lasted against 12 clans...this will be my last comment to all of this garbage.
I'll state this again
1. We did not promise to you anything.You asked for us to detag him.We did,End of story.
2. I really don't care what you do.
Actually you agreed to the surrender terms I layed out while TK was on Vacation. And my terms specifically stated. You shall not have Killtoy Any of his alts or support him in any fashion what so ever. Until such a time as Killtoy settled with TK and playmates and I also stated that if you went back on these we would redeclare you did and we have redeclared now go cry elsewhere or go to wow or EQ2
I'm an officer of PTPTigers and I was recruiting for the clan.DUH! and who are you tell me what I can say?Grow up you immature child.Never have a met such people that think they own this game,you have no right to dictate what and who we should talk to,or play this game with.
He? just because you two are guys using female toons/names.Doesn't make everyone a GUY.I'm not mad,I just don't care what you have to say.This was a recruit forum..people asked questions and I answered them. :D
ok, when i said neutral party, i meant neutral party lol
i am not never have been and never will be part of PTP
lets just get that clear, i just find this discussion to be hysterical and like to jump in and make fun of you guys
no lol i just find it hysterical how worked up all you get
all you have to say is "KILLTOY" and everyone goes nuts
very fun to watch and hell if i can stir it up a bit, lol why not
he right anything about killtoy u guys get so mad of nothing what he really do so bad to piss u off did he talk trash ok well he does but dont forget u talk just as much as he does u guys always make him out to be the bad guy oh he talking trash ummm... ok but u do too i mean really its so dum everyone talks trash grow the [Censored] and get over it its one person u guys waste what 15$ a month to look for this one person i think thats a waste of time .... and when u said if u dont liek pvp in this game go buy WoW i love pvp in this game it fun but when u have 15 or 8 or 10 or even 20 vs 1 or 2 on are side it just doesnt make pvp fun anymore
So why don't you just go after killtoy that seems to be your guys problem.I don't get why you have to war PTP thay are a good clan with good people . Just seems like you want to come after ptp becuse you can't fight killtoy and his clan. sounds like you have a clan full of ******. HAVE A NICE DAY
wow after reading all this playmate are a bunch of ****** roch is right go after killtoy like u been doing what is he to much for u and ur little [censored] clan so u go after a small clan to me u sound like a bunch of little [Censored]
Wow,um this thread isnt for bashing( was orignally for recruitment).Even if my clan is at war with playmates.I don't personally hate them,I would ask everyone to stop this is smacktalk.God,talk about out hand.
...so everyone kiss and make up ^^
lol who crying about dieing in pvp why i think i keep coming out over and over again to show i dont care i can lose 40% i can lose 200% doesnt bother me ill gain all that back in one day so when u say crying in pvp doesnt bother me ^_^
We're ******* for going after PTPTigers, and you tell us to go after killtoy instead.
Revision: We're warring both PTPTigers AND Killtoy's clan, SyndicateReborn. Two clans vrs our one. Yeah we out number you still, thats why you'll seldomly ever see more then a party of us out to pvp you because you usually vanish to the rift when we have more then that.
Revision 2.0: Our war with PTPTigers / SyndicateReborn has a lot of underlaying issues that extend from being personal and to also other reasons of deceit.
For future reference tho, based on all the crying I read in this thread, I'll be sure to pour some tea, get some biscuits, and sit down with our next enemy clan and discuss whether or not they feel they have the numbers or desire to fight.
News flash. Its a pvp game, your clan's been around awhile, you've had time to recruit and build it up. You make decisions as to who to support and associate with, and unfortunately your associations have dragged you back into this war.
If you don't want it, stick to your original statement (AS PER IN THIS THREAD) before you claim you never made it, stay away from Killtoy, and don't group / support him like you currently are.
lol u really cant war killtoy clan on cuz its only has 14 memmber so remmber u can only war a clan with 15 or more memmbers ^_^ and devina if u guys still dont understand why i keep goin gout and dieing so freely u guys might be lets say alittle slow then ^_^ and tk u not a bully cuz bullys make u do things u tring to make us party with who u want us to party with well to bad i guess u suck as bring a bully
yes this game is a pvp game but dont forget it also pve cuz if it was just a pvp game they wouldnt put mobs to fight he people would just go around killing each other like in a shoter get boring after a little so they put bosses and monster for people to not get bored to fast
but it nice try u tring to get us to war u or to even do what u say when i pm u the first time we had killtoy in are clan and ask u what i could do to taek it off what u say u said kick killtoy out and that war will be take off so i was ok after u killed alot of are memmber u then pm me again and said all u have to do it kick killtoy out and this wont happen anymore u never said promise me anything of that but if u want to say u did trust me i wouldnt agree to that so i guess u can fun with ur oneside war but this is all i go tto say for now take it off or well ur see ^_^
Hmmm I love how the NON Leaders of PTP say this that or whatever was said even if it was by TK.
Fact of the matter is Lorddrr TK was on vacation and offline when your clan wanted to surrender. You we're not even involved in the talks. Wood was and then and even now the Leader of PTPTigers = Wood. So go talk to wood the same Wood that Chastised and insulted your grand buddy Killtoy and his band of lackies in pm's with me when surrendering and agreeing to the terms I posted above.
So if you want to cry to someone I suggest you go cry to Wood the Leader of PTPTigers, your clan leader, and I don't care if your an officer in PTP. The clan leader is the one we deal with. Just like I told u. TK's back go to him not me when you wanted to end this just the other day. Which did Wood know you we're speaking on his behalf to me, and to TK that is if he even bothered to listen.
well ok now we are getting somewhere look u cant talk to would thought chat im not making fun of him or anything but lehas and i always do in game pm for him do to the fact he is not a good read more or less like he cant read that why he doesnt pm much when he does it liek two word
so lehas and i do all the talking that why i pm u cuz will tk block me when i was tring to talk to him that why i ask karen if she could get me to talk to tk or u devina so i can talk to him on vent or something to get this fixed but he wont and i have tried and plzz stop saying im we are crying cuz we are not we are just mad that u guys think we made a agreement about that and if u did wood mostly read it wrong cuz even if it say u cant party with killtoy or raid or whatever it comes to him looking liek this ytrpa kidtiloy rida cnat u so u needed to pm lehas or i that why i talk for wood or we ask u to come on are vent cuz atlast he can talk to u then type and read
Agreed,Wood will only talk on vent and does not talk in pms.That is why lord and I do the typing.If TK would like to speak to Wood,he is welcome to go into his locked channel.
Lord..please check your words for typos..I can't figure out some of them,sweetie lol :eek:
well ok now we are getting somewhere look u cant talk to would thought chat im not making fun of him or anything but lehas and i always do in game pm for him do to the fact he is not a good read more or less like he cant read that why he doesnt pm much when he does it liek two word
so lehas and i do all the talking that why i pm u cuz will tk block me when i was tring to talk to him that why i ask karen if she could get me to talk to tk or u devina so i can talk to him on vent or something to get this fixed but he wont and i have tried and plzz stop saying im we are crying cuz we are not we are just mad that u guys think we made a agreement about that and if u did wood mostly read it wrong cuz even if it say u cant party with killtoy or raid or whatever it comes to him looking liek this ytrpa kidtiloy rida cnat u so u needed to pm lehas or i that why i talk for wood or we ask u to come on are vent cuz atlast he can talk to u then type and read
and you're the literate one in the group? in a hurry or not that's pretty much just illegible. :p
lol yeah sorry about that im doing it at work, so if it sound like i cant type or spell then its just because im doing it at work sorry maybe i just wont type at work anymore
Wow. I just read this tread for the first time, and I'm surprised at all this happening. I was the original leader of Redemption. I'm surprised at the fact that the clan's name is brought in these posts.. LOL I don't remember many people saying much about us back in the day. Some one said something about Redemption and allying with them was a big mistake because they reformed alot. I want to set the record straigh, I only reformed once, and for good reason.. Myself and the leadership of the clan joined ImmortalLegends. It was a good move for us. I gave the clan to a friend. I'm surprised that they were involved in a war like this, and this is the first I've heard of this. I personally don't know Kiltoy, but I do know PTPTigers. They were members of my alliance that I lead. As for their people.. well, Some are good.. and some are bad. Just like every clan in this game, none are perfect. I know Wood, and I think he's a good guy. Though I do think he's made some bad mistakes. Mainly in some of the company he keeps. What lead to PTPTigers leaving Redemption(while under my leadership) was the fact that I booted serveral people from my clan for... being rather horrible people. He then recruited them and allowed them to use his ventrilo. These people were known to have said some rather sexual things about my 2nd in command's daugher (she was around 5yrs old.) They later joined a clan called Helios. I went to talk to Wood about warring them, and low and behold they were in his vent. Needless to say I wasn't thrilled. We warred Helios, but it was a quick war, as I was in talks with IL about joining. I now hold no grudges about the past, though I am disheartened to know that all this happened and tarnised the name of a clan I lead for about 2 years. For the record Wood's people are generally decient people. Wood tries to find the good in everyone , and his motto (or atleast what he explained to me) is: "If they haven't done anything to me, then why should I not trust them". My thoughts, PTP isn't the ****'s or anything, just a small group of people trying to enjoy a game. We all pay our $15. But war sucks sometimes, and it's always better to understand when to contact a superior enemy and admit defeat. I think the officer for PTP should have let Wood do the talking, He can handle himself. As for TK, I understand you're feeling of anger.. I've been there myself. At some point is it worth it to destroy a clan though? Think of this in terms of people just trying to make friends, and made the wrong ones. It could be quite the lesson learned.
You should know better than all of us,that wood's typing isnt that good.That is why I type for him,over vent I tell him what i have posted.Most of the things I wanted to say were not posted because he didn't think it needed to be mentioned.
Also every clan has [censored],they seem nice at first.Right now,there isn't anyone that is like that anymore.
I don't know who the person you are talking about that join helios,but I'm sure wood had a reason.Also from what I heard ,wood ran redemption for a while before it disband and pudgie took over.Anyway,that doesn't matter..Wood does his best and his officers try to babysit the others as best as we can.We learned about killtoys past after he joined.At first it seemed stupid to be ****** at someone that long,then we noticed members leaving.As for the fact of the recent events.One of our members rifted with killtoy when TK was around.He is the only one that lvls with killtoy in the rift.It's very rare,but he does..I have never, same with the others.So wood has to deal with it now.
Also redemption wasn't brought into the war with TK,you have your own forum, done up for redemption farther in.
I didn't realize there was a "Redemption" Forum further in.. The character I was referring to was t0bis. I do think Wood is a good guy, though I know he types fine, He's prob. just like me, I don't like to deal with the little details. Recruitment tip: Don't say you're "babysitting" other clannies:) LOL they might think its funny. I knew Wood took Redemption from Pudgie for a little bit, though none of this was ever explained to me. As for PTP, most of her members were good. We had alot of good times together, things just happen sometimes. People move apart. I do hope for the best for you guys, I hope this stuff blows over and you guys can get back to what you guys were before all this. Gl Topaz, I'm off to read up on more Redemption new's from while I was away. :)
I heard ,wood ran redemption for a while before it disband and pudgie took over..
Just to clear this up. Wood only ran Redemption about a month or so after I gave it to Pudgie, He never ran Redemption before then. It never disbanded, just some of us moved along. I gave it to Pudgie because he is a good friend of mine and I like him alot. I guess there are reasons behind why Pudgie allowed Wood to run Redemption for a few weeks, and I don't really care to know why. I would like to know if there is another forum or something on Redemption, I'm kinda interested in finding out what happened in my absence. Not that it matters at this point, Redemption is retired on my 2box'd prophet right now, But I like to know what has transpired. And I'm not trying to put anyone down in my posts. Wood was a member of my Alliance along with ShadowHunters2. We did fine for awhile, but people move on, It's not anyone's fault but my own, and I realize that. I take the blame for that. I just hope that all this stuff can be fixed for you guys. The old Members of the Redemption Alliance will always have a soft spot in my heart, even in the worst of times, it was like a family. You don't always agree or like what your family does, but you're family. I'll be rooting for you guys to do well!
I've been away a bit. My dad got real sick, something called "Wagner's Disease" - basically kidney failure. I left the game for awhile to spend more time with my family. But he's getting better- He's on dailysis 3x's a week. So now I have more time to play again , and hope to get more active!
As for TK, I understand you're feeling of anger.. I've been there myself. At some point is it worth it to destroy a clan though? Think of this in terms of people just trying to make friends, and made the wrong ones. It could be quite the lesson learned.
I've never had the intentions of destroying a clan, I'm simply not that kind of guy, but I've had repeated problems with this clan, and its associates. Aslong as Killtoy and his crew keep attacking us we'll remain on alert and keep attacking him, and ptptigers due to their involvement with him.
Neither side as ever approached me in game wanting to end it, I've only read crying on forums. Only thing I've ever heard from ptp is "why" and I'm tired of explaining myself over and over, so I simply won't explain ever again.
In this case, as it stands, I won't let up till they disband their clan.
I understand where you're coming from. Helios was like that for me, and t0bis was my Killtoy type of person. So I see where you're coming from. Stuff like this sucks.
I'm tired of this "crying" thing,we are not crying,we are stating what is going and lord wants to know if there was a way to take it off.That is IT! stop with that stupid crying garbage..it makes you look like a little punk.IMO
You are mad over seeing a member with killtoy..you didnt see a clan but you find it just to take the clan out,instead of telling us that this member was seen with killtoy. Anytime I've seen killtoy was in the rift at the other end of the room,since he left the clan.Wood and the rest of us had nothing to do with him.That is all I have to say about it.I'm tired of hearing lvl 5x being killed by 77 + in large groups.End of story
lol! Most of the time we're on our subs when we kill you, its easier and faster to work the karma off. And our subs aren't 77+
If its one of your members solo'n and they die, they get ganked by one person, not a party, we never look for you with numbers. Because to be frank, your clan never has a lot on. The most activity I've seen out of your clan since this started was last night when Wood/Disgrace/c3relus, I can't spell the BD's name, tried to gank me and one of our lowbies at WoA port in but the gank went sour and you guys died, shortly after Bloodsoul's farmer raid crew came through and killed everyone that was at the port in. lol. Except the other PTPTiger guy that ported in, which I found odd... Wood2000, some tank that ported in afterwards. Farmers didn't touch him. =(
From what I heard we had an archer that just hit a-grade and he was ganked more than once at forsaken plains ,by deviona and two others,Deviona was on his main class..which is a 76-77 spectral dancer.Not his AW.Also the ONLY time I was killed by your clan..is was with cerl3erus,devie(58),and two buffers..some other buffers where just in the hall way(which they were killed for just being near us,they werent even ours).We were ganked by 8 players,and we know most where in their 70+.That is what I find so stupid about this...we have no sub-class members,and we always see yours attacking our lowbies.If you want some good fights with us,try making it even =p
We are on,most of us and well we know where to hunt without being found ^^ that is why you can't find us.
As for woody2000 not being attacked...that is our little secret ^^.
As for woody2000 not being attacked...that is our little secret ^^.
Working with farmers is strong!
I've called out your clan on many occasions to fight in fights that gave you the advantage, nobody ever takes it. So I'll make the challenge towards you, 4 of us versus your entire clan. Sounds fair imo.
And as for not finding you, we only find you when we want to, your clan is hardly any impact on us, we only go out and kill you when we're bored and have nothing else to do at that time. If we actually focussed on you it may be a bit different. But its a more of a "Go look when you have nothing to do" kind of thing.
hey tk u know that BS what u said about none us us have tried to talk to u in gaem about it i pm u and ask i nicely how we can do this and get it off u blocked me for it i pm ur office devaia and she or he said u dont wan tot take the war off i ask my best friend karen to talk to u about it and u said no to that
i ask devia to ask u if u wan tto come on vent and talk to wood about it and get it over with but u dont want to so dont say that but if ur for really ill be on all this weeken so pm me in game LordDRR and ill get it set up to go on vent even wood said to pm u and ask u to come on are vent so we can talk so if u want just pm me or Lehas
Don't bother lord,He isn't worth our time.They hardly show up,we still lvl etc.If he wants to have his little "hissy" fit over you talking to killtoy,then let him.I don't want to waste my time on his so called " 1vs1 or 1vs2 "you know it's a lie and they have 6 7+ waiting.We have members that know about 4 of them that pretty much botted their way to third class.Because for one..they werent even close to third grade and wood plays the game honestly..and it's been months,he isnt even close to it yet.
:p
Don't bother lord,He isn't worth our time.They hardly show up,we still lvl etc.If he wants to have his little "hissy" fit over you talking to killtoy,then let him.I don't want to waste my time on his so called " 1vs1 or 1vs2 "you know it's a lie and they have 6 7+ waiting.We have members that know about 4 of them that pretty much botted their way to third class.Because for one..they werent even close to third grade and wood plays the game honestly..and it's been months,he isnt even close to it yet.
:p
We botted to third class? And you base this on the fact that Wood's been playing for months and isn't third class yet and he's legit?
By your logic every single person that's third class change in this game botted their way to it then. Or have you forgotten that this game is going on 3 years old and the majority of the people in my clan that are 3rd class have been playing since the beginning?
Coming from a clan that has had, and still does have several people that use third party programs... please.
Even BobTheGlad posted screenshots on your OWN forums displaying that he had In game walker loaded up. I saved the screenshots to my HD and have reported him to NCSoft already, I bugged him about it in pm's and now if you look at the screenshots you see a "smudge" where the HP/MP stat used to be.
HaHa yea I like how you put that up.. it's funny.. w/e picture sent must of been something you made.. I mean anyone can put HP or STATS on someones screen with photoshop or something.. Don't even start saying some random stuff just because you have some grudge against me because I was in PTPTigers.. That's childish dude... anyways I heard you and Deviona are 2 guys dating and are bunch of 2 ******sss ROFL just rumor going around now.. but anyways Yea go ahead and send that picture to NCSoft just random crap you sent to them that you made with Photoshop .. but anyways I will be seeing you around Mr.[censored]/GANKER HAHA! man I crack myself up!
HaHa yea I like how you put that up.. it's funny.. w/e picture sent must of been something you made.. I mean anyone can put HP or STATS on someones screen with photoshop or something.. Don't even start saying some random stuff just because you have some grudge against me because I was in PTPTigers.. That's childish dude... anyways I heard you and Deviona are 2 guys dating and are bunch of 2 ******sss ROFL just rumor going around now.. but anyways Yea go ahead and send that picture to NCSoft just random crap you sent to them that you made with Photoshop .. but anyways I will be seeing you around Mr.[censored]/GANKER HAHA! man I crack myself up!
Fortunately I'm not good enough to fabricate fraps tho. And lol at you denying it. You bot in the main path of Wall of Agro's, people see you daily!
I was stating that some of your members that our clannies have known since another clan...must have botted.I already know that you've been playing this game for three years.
We also have a full list of your members name and lvls ^^ I wont tell you how we got it tho.
Also,you can't hit that hard if you aren't s-grade.
I do know that I have killed some of your members when they are using their sub-classes and yes,they weren't very high.
Read what I type before you reply.So you get the whole thing :)
Wow,gf TK ...kill an untagged buffer( which is a friend of ours NOT even in the clan),then when we kill your little archer "relina" you send 7 lvl 7x to kill three lvl 6x's,lol.Ani is lvl 71- or 72.So don't stand there and say you come on lower sub-classes.Silly bum =p Relina was easy for me to kill,so either she was on her sub or not.Anyway ^^ she was a fun drop.Our poor academy members..geez are they worth you going red so much?
Also I was told by people that left our clan..your members are dropping them.LEAVE THEM THE H*** ALONE.God,you are sitting here warring a clan...those are NOT members anymore.
How about I just put it like this so you'll stop crying.
We'll kill you whenever we **** well please, and if we want, we will kill anyone you associate with. Don't like it? War us back, not gonna war us back? I really don't care.
Keep crying.
As for knowing our level's, that benefits you how? It doesn't. I would have told you our levels had you asked, its not like its a secret. Either way thats been resolved now.
Honestly I really don't give a **** about being fair.
1 Thing I'll say about Divinity. They had mouths but atleast they could back them up.
I called out your Force logged indivduals @ hardens All of u vrs me, to the acedamy toon that was killed by our academy Did that get accepted. Nope.
Just fight the war disband, or leave the server. Honestly leave the server imo.
For your individuals WHO can't spell my name.
My Name is Devina on this forums
Deviona in-game. And just fyi I told u to go talk to him and passed the msg you wanted to speak to him. And honestly I could care less, if he ignored you. Hell I would to with the antics of your two bit clan and just say fkem they can disband.
Wow,gf TK ...kill an untagged buffer( which is a friend of ours NOT even in the clan),then when we kill your little archer "relina" you send 7 lvl 7x to kill three lvl 6x's,lol.Ani is lvl 71- or 72.So don't stand there and say you come on lower sub-classes.Silly bum =p Relina was easy for me to kill,so either she was on her sub or not.Anyway ^^ she was a fun drop.Our poor academy members..geez are they worth you going red so much?
Also I was told by people that left our clan..your members are dropping them.LEAVE THEM THE H*** ALONE.God,you are sitting here warring a clan...those are NOT members anymore.
Leave them alone so they can just rejoin once they get their lvl's
1Legolas1 you may blame for that and everyone of your de-tags. He wanted to be left alone and lvl. I specifically told him De-tag don't get involved and once this mess = over re-join ptp if u like. He left got his lvl and rejoined. That it up for the rest. So NO I won't leave them alone. What you gonna do about it? NOTHING
BTW quit your **** crying and go play WoW or EQ2 already god.
Oh my...you guys sound like such babies.For one we aren't crying,we really don't care about the 4%.We wont war you..Devina ( there you go,you baby) you killed an academy member last night,the second time he came around..I saw you MYSELF.What a waste of a pk,also when you had your members drop you for a brez..you popped..there is a quest for that you know >.>.
You wont have to worry about us anytime soon ^^
bye bye babies :D
Is it safe to say you'll stop posting excuses and whining about us killing you then?
BTW: Relina is Relina, not me. Contrary to what you may think I don't play anyone else in my clan, I only play my toon. I wasn't even around during all those events, I was at work. So don't go "TK why'd you pk my friend?" When it was Relina that did it, not I.
um..huh? i didn't say you play that character I was just saying what I said o.O.You're the leader..so I was just asking why go after people that de-tagged,that means they don't want to deal with the war.
Legolas came back to the clan because after he de-tags a playmates killed him twice..so he said forget it and came back.
You may want to word your responses differently so they don't portray a message that you do not mean.
Just because I'm the leader of the clan, doesn't mean there aren't other people within the clan making calls when I'm not around.
One of us got killed on their sub, he said so on vent, and several people within the clan wanted to come to his aid. Is that a problem? Because I'm sure I can tell my clan next time someone needs help that nobody should come to their aid, last I checked, thats the whole purpose of a clan, is to support one another.
If we happen to have more people come to the aid of others then you do, I fail to see how that is our problem, and how you crying about it affects us in any way?
And Legolas got pk'd after he detagged and asked to be off KOS, he got pk'd a second time by someone that had not received the message yet later that day. We apologized to him and moved on, suddenly he's now in full A grade and has tagged back up. We think he detagged to get his lvl and tag back up, and yet again, I fail to see how thats our problem. He ruined it for the rest of the detags, and I find it ironic that we kill your detags and its members of your clan that respond to their aid. Thats why we simply KOS anyone that tags up and leaves your clan.