NC with all the respect...

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and with no offense...
is it possible to get informed from official site and forums on such SERIOUS issues?

http://lineage3.wordpress.com/2007/02/09/lineage-3-status-paused-its-sad/


i know i m not asking much, like game changes or extreme demands.

i hope it wont be locked or deleted but its something that concerns all of us and its TOO bad to learn these things from "3rd party" sources.
we are customers after all that have the right to be informed.
TnX in Advance
old ^^
and you will always here things through unofficial channels before the officials.., its always been like that. not just l2
m8, this is serious...
this means that life of L2 is expanded.
Actually since Lineage2 and Lineage3 are two seperate games and the team of Lineage2 got nothing to do with Lineage1, I fail to understand, how this board is the official site for Lineage3.

Yes, Lineage3 is in the same universe as Lineage1+2, but never has it been said, that Lin2 will die when Lin3 comes out. NCsoft did also bring out GuildWars and Rising Force Online. They made Aion and Tabula Rase and Auto Assault. All those are NCsoft titels and they got no real effect on Lineage2.

I believe you see the future of Lin2 far to closely tied to any future Lineage3.

Lineage1 does still exist by the way, altough Lineage2 is alive for years.

Seperated Kitten
so , you re telling me that by being a L2 player, you re not interested on its future, or when L3 goes Live?
well, i know many people IRL or ingame that would like to know and they have the right to.
i see a big relation among the 3 games.
im sure that MANY left L1 when L2 went live, so same thing will happen when L3 hits the scene.
how can you separate these in your mind, looks strange to me...
Very simple...

To me, Lineage3 is a complete other game than Lineage2. It does have similarities, but it will also have huge differences. Quite the same as the differences between Lineage1 and Lineage2. Personally I never played Lineage1. I don't know, if I will ever play Lineage3. I did play a dozen MMOGs so far and I stick to L2. Aion will not change that, Vanguard did not change that, WOW for sure got no chance to change that and I highly doubt, that I will switch to L3 as soon as it comes out.

And realistically speaking, the release of L3 is at least years ahead, so yes, I do not care in the least, if it is further delayed or not. Maybe in 2 years I am married. Maybe I do not play computer games at all anymore.

To me, Lineage3 is just another MMOG, just like every other MMOG on the market and so I cannot understand the hype about it. Noone is posting "OMG111 Vanguard was released ! The death of L2 !!".. Or the same line with Aion as the new release, as that is made by NCsoft.

People will come and go. Games last for a couple years as their prime age and then they slowly go down. Some faster, some slower. Ultima Online is still played and it is the grand grand granddaddy of todays MMOGs. Everquest is still played despite of Everquest2 being out for years. Everquest2 is still played despite Vanguard being basically an Everquest3.

I am pretty sure, that Lineage2 will still be played, even if Lineage3 is out. So that is why I do not see anything special or worth mentioning about L3 development being delayed.

Delayed blast Kitten
This has nothing to do with NCNA or us.
all i read is "to me, to me, to me" you re not alone, you re not majority, you re a unit.\
i m a unit also but it does interest me.
i aggree in the part that till now L2 is the game that interest us more than other mmorpg, thats why we re still here after all.
Bhodo, "NCNA or us", are a part of NCSoft.
anyway. you probably dont care but i know that many people care and i believe we should be more informed on things like that. maybe i m wrong but i thought it would be nice to inform the rest of what i read and to ask nicely what i asked.

you dont care? np...
i know 90% of top players on most servers plan to go to l3 when it comes out simple so yes it affects us
Zzznow21, at least *I* do not claim to speak on behalf of everyone else. I did make clear, that I speak only for my own opinion. You however said this:

... but its something that concerns all of us...


So who is making a fool of themselves here ?

You are not a majority either, "you re a unit" as you word it. What does qualify you to decide, what concerns all of us ?

So just see my posts as prooving you wrong on the assumption, that it concerns all of us. Even if it would concern all but me (only speaking of ME again ;) ), your statement would still be false, as I do not care for Lineage3.. at least not in the current state of development.


i know 90% of top players on most servers plan


I highly doubt, that you even know 90% of the top players on most servers, so I am pretty sure, you cannot speak about their plans either.

Minority Kitten

and with no offense...
is it possible to get informed from official site and forums on such SERIOUS issues?

http://lineage3.wordpress.com/2007/02/09/lineage-3-status-paused-its-sad/


i know i m not asking much, like game changes or extreme demands.

i hope it wont be locked or deleted but its something that concerns all of us and its TOO bad to learn these things from "3rd party" sources.
we are customers after all that have the right to be informed.
TnX in Advance



Well, Just to let you know, "I was interested".

Also, Yonghyun Park , I bet this is the guy responsible for the Pig hats in Interlude as well as the leggings for Dark Crystal Robes....

Dollars to Donuts!

Thanks for the post.
Obviously you have no idea what i means for your gameplay Schmusekatze.

50% of the farmers will move on,

50% of the peopleyou know, you will lose in the game.

So u may not care, but yes it will effect u if l3 comes out

i know 90% of top players on most servers plan to go to l3 when it comes out simple so yes it affects us



Only if you rely on those "top players" for anything. I know that if the top of Lionna went to L3, there'd be a major dynamic shift, and I for one think that could be kind of interesting, seeing where people fit in after the fact.
Wohoo. 50% of the farmers would move on ? Please release Lineage3 immediately !

50% of the people I know will leave ? How can you make such a claim ? You do not even know me. You know nothing about the people I know in game. So far I do not know a single player in game, who said, that they would leave the moment L3 came out.

Do not all be so fast with general assumptions, that are based on basically nothing.

Assuming Kitten

all i read is "to me, to me, to me" you re not alone, you re not majority, you re a unit.\



Glass house bucko.


i m a unit also but it does interest me.



You are not alone. You are not the majority. You are a unit, and you don't matter. Majority rule.


Bhodo, "NCNA or us", are a part of NCSoft.



And NBC is part of General Electric. What's your point?


anyway. you probably dont care but i know that many people care and i believe we should be more informed on things like that. maybe i m wrong but i thought it would be nice to inform the rest of what i read and to ask nicely what i asked.



you you you you you

Notice how noone else cared... or they already knew.


you dont care? np...



Nope. It doesn't effect us in any way.... and NCNA isn't responsible for giving us this information. It doesn't bother me at all.

Obviously you have no idea what i means for your gameplay Schmusekatze.

50% of the farmers will move on,

50% of the peopleyou know, you will lose in the game.

So u may not care, but yes it will effect u if l3 comes out



82.1% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
every l2 play i know said they will test it at the LEAST, sure not everyone will LEAVE for it, some wont like it, thats a fact, just like they come back after playing WOW ETC, but the graphics will be better, a better engine enabling larger epic pvp battles and also decent graphics to not lag on a siege field for example.

The game for those simple reasons will bring alot of them over.

Obviously you dont have alot of friends if players u have asked that question said that.

Also i thought u said u didnt care about l3, so why are u a. posting in this thread and b. asking your "friends that question"

I call bs on everything u said.
I'm interested.
I expect to be grinding away on day 1 of L3 release. I hadn't even heard of L2 till C1 was in full swing and have played catch-up ever since. I'd like to be on the ground floor of L3.

And my interest in L3 is directly linked to my love of L2.

So, I see the relevance and I am interested. My suggestion would be, as with any thread, if you aren't personally interested, post in a thread that DOES interest you. Otherwise, you are just being a troll.

I call bs on everything u said.


Nice to see, that you need to rely on foul language already, instead of continuing a discussion.

I got enough friends for my taste. Some left the game already and some will no doubt leave, before Lineage3 will even come out. Maybe even I together with them will leave for Lin3.

What I meant to say, is that Lineage3 is so long down the road still, that it is absolutely not that important, if the deelopment is stalled or not, as the OP seems to believe. Till the release of Lineage3, there will be a dozen other MMOGs, including Aion and as Aion was more tailored to the western market, I would rather see the development of Aion as important to Lineage2, than the sometime in the future maybe coming Lin3.

to a): I am posting in this thread, because I can, and because I do not like made up statistics, that claim, what *I* will do or do think.
to b): I am discussing numerous things with my friends, including other games, including future games, wheter or not any of us wants to check them out. There are games mentioned in such talks, that we might want to check out, but as mentioned before, Lineage3 is so far down the road, that it is not worth speaking of it so far.

c): Kitten
Everyone is a troll.

Ferslicious knows 90% of all top players on all servers, and to top it off, every L2 player he knows has said that they will test L3 atleast ;)

Bold claims. Now then Ferslicious, name the top(how do you even define top ;) ) players of Teon for example. And please, involve also the Russian etc. Baltic ppl that dont speak english. (We have those actually.)

So, you mister 90% this and that, are full of bogus.

Btw, if you were really interested in L3, you would have known of this much sooner, since you would actively look up any info about it. And why would you look up for info? Well, since you're so interested as to have interviewed the majority of NA top players on all servers etc.
Of course people are interested in L3. Not necessarily dropping L2 to play L3 right from day one, but I guess everybody will like to at least read about the features of the game and look at screenies/videos.

But the point is that even IF L3 had not been delayed, it would not have come out before another 2 years minimum. So there is no reason to get all excited about these news - much can happen in 2 years, many players will have quit L2 anyway by then, and not because of L3 (but because of the constant lack of any feel for game balance NCsoft shows).

So I just cannot understand why the OP thinks this is such a huge problem. And NCsoft has a "NCsoft" site, why should they post about L3 on the L2 site, these are two different games and why should they make their "old" game look bad by posting news about a new game.
This is Lineage2, not Lineage3. And i feel that we shouldn't be worried yet when something is still in the planning stage.

Even if L3 gets canceled...How is this the end of the known world? :)

Anyways any news like this would be on the NC site, but an idea still in the planning stages..... No company would release any info of the such this early in the game.
who gives a [censored] about L3.

They fired the producer.. they will hire a new one, and this is a significant setback.

L3 is a bare min of 2 yrs out.. and if it does hit beta within 2 yrs, you **** sure aren't going to want to play it. LOL

Look for L3 sometime in 2010 at the earliest.

So yeah - who gives a [censored].
this thread is NOT to flame each other. its something i read and i wanted to inform the rest. some already know, some dont care. well, if you dont care, just dont bother.

i thought that for those who care on this game and its future and are not planning to leave it because of marriage or whatever else they could think as a possibility to make their opposition, it would be usefull to read.
its enough to me that some care.
im also satisfied that i see many narrow-minded ppl just looking the "today" and not the "tomorrow" of the MMOG we like. oops, i said "we". sry kitten, i m just a unit...
kkthxbb
Oh really? Why then start throwing bogus statistics and insults in the first place? You start something, better be prepared to finish it also.

Oh really? Why then start throwing bogus statistics and insults in the first place? You start something, better be prepared to finish it also.



where did you see such thing? quote plz
Read all posts by Ferslicious, nuff said.
Re: NC with all the respect... [Re: Zzznow21]
you re refering to fersilicious but answering to me about bogus statistics and accusations? loool
I am looking at the tomorrow of games, but you are looking at the far distant future and make a hype of it.

Lineage2 does exist 3 years. Lineage3 is not realistic to be released within the next 3 years from now. So after Lineage2 is currently in its prime time, you are worrying about the future ?

If you turn 35, will you speak to your parents and children (if you have any) about your imminent death, just because you reached 50% of your average expectable lifetime ?

There is enough time to worry about Lineage3 and other possible successors of Lineage2, when the time comes for it. That is not today or tomorrow, but rather in roughly 2 years. Who can be sure to still be playing Lineage2 in two years ? Many people do not play for longer than 2 years yet.

I do not see, why Lin3 is worth any kind of news on a Lin2 site. You are not asking for Lin1 news either.. why is that ?

Aged Kitten
In before the Lock Hammer Comes down.
OMG - the bush ******* in this one has got to be some of the worse I have ever seen in any of our threads.

Everyone, go to your rooms and get back to killing each other in game, not here. This is holy ground, meant to help everyone out and make the game collectivly better for each and everyone of us.

course, I am not any better, but at least today I am feeling good about my toons and the game :)
Forum warriors FTW?
Geeez I'm not worried about it, we reset teams at work all the freaking time and we develop software too. It just pushes it back, which is rather common....
well truth be told i will prolly never play another NC game ever lol
fact is though when L3 comes out it will either be better or worse than L2
if its better we all move to L3 and never look back
if its worse we stick around here, L1 is still being played believe it or not
Let me say this again.

I care about L3. So to any and all of you saying who gives a [censored]... my hand is raised. So if your point is that No One cares... point proved false, please move on.

If YOU do not care about the subject, just as with any thread you don't care about, simple etiquette (one would hope learned from your parents) is to move on to a subject you DO care about and post your comments there. You are not being constructive in any way by posting that you don't care about a subject. It is simply rude hostility.

It is related to L2, and should NCS ever create an L3 forum, I'm sure most of these discussions can/should be directed there. Until that time, this seems a perfectly acceptable place to discuss L3 for whatever an L3 discussion is worth (and of course it's all long-sighted speculation at best. Big deal! Let a dreamer dream).

i know 90% of top players on most servers plan to go to l3 when it comes out simple so yes it affects us



Who do you think are the "top" players. Are these the same guys who ebayed and botted there way to the top in L2. The same guys who throw points to choose who will be hero.

The truth is that 90% of the top players are actually the scum on the servers. It will be nice if they leave for L3, so that the people who actually play L2 can compete.
I first actually answered to PameanWrath, and in that post also addressed Ferslicious post, since I didnt want to make 2 different posts. But since you want to pick a fight about reply lines... fine.

Now read the thread again, and shush.

In before the Lock Hammer Comes down.





YES! Mistryl lock this post before someones feelings are hurt, cause we all know any arguments on this forum get locked.

Quick before people start using exclamation marks!!!!!!!!!!!

oh [censored] too late.

I do not see, why Lin3 is worth any kind of news on a Lin2 site. You are not asking for Lin1 news either.. why is that ?




The development of Lineage 3 is relevant and of interest to the Lineage 2 community. Information about that development should be available on this web page or on the PlayNC web page.
Major news and updates about the development of Lineage III will be announced on PlayNC.com, so please keep an eye on that site for information in the future! I know a lot of Lineage II players have an interest in Lineage III, but it is unlikely that any news about Lineage III will be posted on this site.

The development of Lineage 3 is relevant and of interest to the Lineage 2 community. Information about that development should be available on this web page or on the PlayNC web page.



While this would make sense to have, you have to remember this is NCSOFT NA, where information is given long after its common knowledge.
Rising Force Online was imported and distributed by Codemasters, not NCSoft. It was originally developed by CCR who is, I am lead to understand, NC-Softs largest competitor in South Korea.

Personally, for webforum use, I prefer to use the official www.statsoutofmybum.com (http://www.statsoutofmybum.com) for all my fictional, made-up, make-believe numbers, polls, opinions and statistics for supporting my claims.

9 out of 10 doctors agree.

so , you re telling me that by being a L2 player, you re not interested on its future, or when L3 goes Live?
well, i know many people IRL or ingame that would like to know and they have the right to.
i see a big relation among the 3 games.
im sure that MANY left L1 when L2 went live, so same thing will happen when L3 hits the scene.
how can you separate these in your mind, looks strange to me...



when l2 came out very few ppl completly left l1, and even if they did they pretty much left Lineage and Lineage 2 all together.

Major news and updates about the development of Lineage III will be announced on PlayNC.com, so please keep an eye on that site for information in the future! I know a lot of Lineage II players have an interest in Lineage III, but it is unlikely that any news about Lineage III will be posted on this site.



See that? Just quoted for effect.

Thanks Mistryl for telling how things are ;)

L2 =! L3