Deleting a Subclass - Advice needed

Here is the case, I have 4 classes total.
My first subclass is a Sorcerer which I never play.
My last subclass hit 73 last week.

I was thinking to delete my first subclass and replace it with a class I would play more.
I was discussing this with my friends, none has ever done this before but one suggested that I may risk deleteting the subclasses I created AFTER the first one aswell.
One can imagine that this thought scares me to death.
I did seek in the knowledge base before makeing a petition.

So I petiton a gm for official advice. I asked 2 questions:
A. Can I delete my first subclass without loosing subclass 2 & 3
B. IF so, do I need to hit 75 on my last subclass to be able to repace subclass 1.

The answer was basicly this: this was a question about gameplay machanics which gm give no info on and a reference to this page: http://www.lineage2.com/Knowledge/subclasses_1.html
Also I can try getting this info from other players ingame.
I do not know any player who has done this. Also asking one I do not know I am scared to do, because I know a few will say "sure go ahead, it can be done" just for the hell of it, or to grief.
Reading the adviced page I find no answer to my questions.
It felt more like insulting my intelligence.

So I open a new petition stating that I am dissapointed by thier response and the reffered site does not help me at all.
I wrote that I seek the rules of deleting a subclass.

The following response I get basicly saying:
That exploring the game is part of the fun and game expariance, and again what I ask is part of the game mechanics and hence a gm will not support me on this.
And this time I get referred these boards to discuss my issue with other players.

To me this is bad advice, I do not wish to "explore" the game by finding out I just deleted about 200 lvls (my first sub and the 2 created after this)
If I make a bad judgement call on this it possibly end up to ncsoft not be able or willing to fix this for me which would mean I will quit the game over this "exploring".
Mind me, I do not mind "exploring" new mobs & areas and dying in the process, or OE a weap and crushing it.
But putting 2-3 subclasses at risk is a too high risk for me to "explore" on and certainly no fun.

So I be a good girl and do as adviced in the gm response.

My question to you all is this:
Has any of you done what I wish to do, and what was the result?
To NcSoft:
Why is it so hard to get an official statement on this matter?

Thanks in advance for your responses.

make a new char?

He wants a new main on his current char.
Easy-i got Sorc/Bd sub and i also want to switch my main with my sub.You cant erase your main class.You can only remove your second/third subs.

Thanks for your reply.
It is not my main but my FIRST subclass I would like to replace.

And yes SHE (me) would like to play THIS character. I do not wish to make a new char.

I attempted one more petiton ... sigh ... the answer I literaly quote:

Hello Easy.
Thank you very much for contacting us. We do understand your concern very well and really apreaciate your interest in Lineage II. However, we would like to inform you that Game Masters cannot be involved in the gameplay issues of the players in order to maintain a balance stability in the game.
Exploring the game is part of fun and we expect players to find such information on thier own. Therfore, we suggest you visit our official website at http://www.lineage2.com/Knowledge/subclasses_2.html to get a detailed information on this. Thanks for your understanding and cooperation. Enjoy the mysterious world of Lineage II.
This ends the GM petition consultation.
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Really people is it just me or what ???
This is almost the uberness in sarcasm to me.

To lazy to read it all but you can delete the first subclass without any problems. I got a clan mate who did it so.

i know you can be noble and delete your first subclass also and then stay noble

Oks you got something like this : Main char Sorcerer/1st Sub th 2nd sub HE.You cant erase the sorc since hes your "main".You CAN delete the second one without deleting the third one.Just be on it when you want to delete it.

You want to delete a lvl 75+ subclass?

Dude. Just reroll.

Oks you got something like this : Main char Sorcerer/1st Sub th 2nd sub HE.You cant erase the sorc since hes your "main".You CAN delete the second one without deleting the third one.Just be on it when you want to delete it.

No, you do not understand his question. It is not about MAIN class-

He is:

main <something>
1st sub sorc
2nd sub <something else>
3rd sub <something else>

Ya i understood it before posting my second post.

I am not 100% sure, but I am pretty sure you can delete whichever subclass of your choosing. But it would be nice if we heard an official response from a GM since that would be proper customer care.

My best guess, is the GM probably doesn't know the answer themselves, and if they do, I think an NCsoft staff member should reply to this post since this isn't in any form a way to exploit the game, but instead just to verify the rules of it. I think it is the GM's responsibility to make those rules clear.

I mean com'on "explore" the game? lol, sure lets explore loosing hours of game time. This is a good way to "explore" how customers leave!

Sorry if I was out of line, but this just seems ludicrous.

since not a whole lot of people have done it im betting they dont want to say conclusively one way or the other becasue the process is not neccessarily bugproof. if its broke, fix it, if its not, dont. if youre not 100% sure that its not broke, dont go telling someone its not. gl and wb. you might have better luck if you sent a private message to an HGM to get some sort of unofficial statement on it. may take them a month to get the message though.

im actually in the same position as the OP
i considered deleting my first sub to make a summoner but i have no idea what the effect will be :/

To be clear for all:
Main :78 Hierophant
Sub 1:75 Sorcerer
Sub 2:76 Shillen Saint
Sub 3:73 Bounty Hunter

Trust me all if I could just add one more sub I would, but I cannot.
I feel very comfortable playing this character so I do not wish to make a new character.
It is just I don't play the Sorcerer, cannot even remeber when I switched to her last. So I want to replace this class with one I will enjoy more. (Summoner)

ah?
can you delete a main class at sub level???
will the secondary sub become your main class then?

lol I wish I could change my subclass to my mainclass.

so far i understand you cant change your main class
it was somewhere in the library that i read this
so if you main class is a (x) you wanna do a competision you will only be posable to do with class x =(

To be clear for all:
Main :78 Hierophant
Sub 1:75 Sorcerer
Sub 2:76 Shillen Saint
Sub 3:73 Bounty Hunter


From my understandings, you can replace any of your subclasses at any time, so it will not effect you if you change your Sorc sub.

But yes i would surgust that it is 100% stupid to do :P

The GM team does have a policy about sharing gameplay information; however, players are always welcome to post here with gameplay questions. Fellow players or myself will try our best to help you out! Also, if you feel that information on the web site is missing or unclear, we'd appreciate any feedback so that we can update the site accordingly.

You should be able to delete your first subclass without it affecting your other subclasses. However, if you change your mind, the deletion can't be undone, so choose carefully!

Another question comes to mind actually.

Because the requirement for Noble is main class 76+ with 3rd Class Change done and one 75 Subclass, if you decided to remove the 75 subclass, will this affect your status as a Noble?

supposedly no but i dont' know anyone who's tried it. Once you are noble, you're always noble.

It is possible to pick which sub you want to lose. Go to a grand master and chose...

Cancel the current subclass...

A list will show up of all of your subs and just click the one you wan't to cancel.

The GM team does have a policy about sharing gameplay information; however, players are always welcome to post here with gameplay questions. Fellow players or myself will try our best to help you out! Also, if you feel that information on the web site is missing or unclear, we'd appreciate any feedback so that we can update the site accordingly.

You should be able to delete your first subclass without it affecting your other subclasses. However, if you change your mind, the deletion can't be undone, so choose carefully!

Mistryl,
Thank you so much for your reply. Although the word "should" still sounds a bit ... errm ... not as "you can".

I hope you understand is is somewhat frustrating to not be able to find/get a clear answer on what I see as a very important choice that could have desaterous results when executed badly. The idea of loosing 2 subs is horrifying.

May I use this thread then to point out, that by searching official site, knowledge base & these forums about deleting a subclass decent clear information is not to be found (at least by myself).
Could you give this feedback to the ones who take care of these matters?

Also my second question has not yet been answered and as another important one another player has pointed out not has been:

By deleting subclass nr. 1 will 2 & 3 shift up in place and do I need to hit 75 on nr. 3 to be able to create a new subclass or does the deleting create "an empty slot" at it's same position and I can just go add a new?

Also what I didn't think of myself but is also very important to know, my 1st subclass is indeed the requirement to the Noblesse status, will deleting subclass nr. 1 in anyway effect this, do I risk losing Noblesse?

Thank you for your time.

From what I understand, you will be able to replace your first subclass without the other two "shifting up" in place. (You will choose the new subclass to replace the old one with when you talking to the master about removing a subclass.) The new subclass is added at level 40. Your Noblesse status will not be lost.

Good luck!

Thanks Alot Mystryl ! You are the bestest !

did it work?

i'm 99% sure that you choose which subclass to replace <_<

I did it !!

It worked, did not lose any subs, did not lose Noblesse.
Sorcerer is now replaced with Warlock.

My nerves were jumping .. but all went well.

Am a happy young one again!

Gratz, I think... :)

Now shes gonna drive me crazy with cat care questions. ;)