evasion is gimp. anyone who's ever built themselves to do so has found it extremely NOT useful in pvp.
Have you ever tried to hit a dagger class in PVP? Its really hard when your a melee person... With Ultimate Evasion wow i miss like three quarters of my shots
UE only lasts long enough to warrant fighting 1vs1 in oly or at the track. in open field 9vs9 or extended sieging, are you gonna sit back and wait for UE to regen before you go out and get 1shot?
better to be NOT gimped than relying on a dice roll.
<100 Evasion wear a shield, you are not going to dodge anything
100-120 you have a fair chance to dodge something
>120 evasion you can dodge something
I use Light DC Armor on my BH thinking that since I only hunt mobs that are green to me that I would evade alot. I evade more than if I would with heavy armor, but not enough to make up for the low defense. I'm gonna use Heavy Tallum for exping (when I can afford it) and Light DC for like running around town and stuff since Light DC is the cutest armor in the game for a dwarf. ^_^
evasion is gimp. anyone who's ever built themselves to do so has found it extremely NOT useful in pvp.
looks like you know what you're talking about, evasion/accuracy is of MAJOR importance in pvp.
With PoW and evasion buff a 78 archer without CoV/boss jewels will prolly miss me around 1/3 if not every other shot, but oh well...
I seen the evasion tanking, it's pretty silly to think you can evade much on an tyrant, especially with all those crazy totems that -evasion.
If you're a low evasion with 2 types of armor masteries class it's not worth using light.
Evasion doesnt work well in pvp. You can not dodge any skills(physical or magical). The only classes you can beat with consistency relying on evasion would be other daggers. It does help against achers sometimes, as you can evade their normal shots, but if they realize it they can simply throw 2 skills and you die because your HP/CP is low(except maybe a TH)
Most of the mellee classes trying to kill you will throw skills if they realize they cant hit you normally. Glads, Tyrants, Destros, BD's, Warlords, Some tanks(sorry tanks, you dont have much to help here, but SK cubics go off even if you miss). So basically, any SMART melee DD can kill a high evasion dagger in pvp simply by using skills. Evasion doesnt help that much against people who know what they are doing in PvP.
Evasion helps against all mellee class since they will miss you, a good half of the enemies you meet are mellees so... Daggers use stabs for pvp.
evasion is not part of the calculation whether or not stunshot will land. nor dagger stabs, nor triplesonicslash. his point (and my point) is evasion is gimp because no matter who you think youre facing on your server, youre gonna face all 3 of these kinds of classes as well as their corollarys; and youre not gonna evate those skills. if they dont land its cause of the attacker, not the defender. evasion is gimp because the first shot in open field pvp is stunshot. in a siege, youve got masses of glads and tyrants spamming sonic skills while heros fear you.
better not to waste the money and use it on better things. like charms.
It is gimp because you have no chance to avoid any skill thrown by other people. You could have 400 evasion and chances are you will still die becaue melee or archers will just throw double shot, or TSS, or some other skill because you wont be able to evade it.
The point was no matter how much evasion you have, you can not dodge skills. Whether you can actually reach 400 evasion is irrelevant.(and I have had 140 on my PW before using UE)
I use Light DC Armor on my BH thinking that since I only hunt mobs that are green to me that I would evade alot. I evade more than if I would with heavy armor, but not enough to make up for the low defense. I'm gonna use Heavy Tallum for exping (when I can afford it) and Light DC for like running around town and stuff since Light DC is the cutest armor in the game for a dwarf. ^_^
NM Light is a nice Dwarf set
I used it pulling green and white cata mobs 61 - 65 on my BH ...its pretty close to the PDef of BW heavy and the + evasion w/ vr effect make it a nice pole set
i could do a full room solo+buffs and 2 rooms w/ BD very easy
i would still use it but my main switched from NM Plate to Maj and i couldnt see keepin a NM helm around when i could just as easily use Maj on my dwarf
so if you can't dodge magic or skills it makes evasion useless? so mdef is useless aswell because you can't magic block arrows...
If you have done any higher end pvp you would know that mdef is essentially useless. It means nothing. The only real way to lower the damage of a mystic is propper resist buffs. The difference of 100 mdef takes away 50 or so damage. as opposed to resist buffs, that make the damage insanely low. (100-200 instead of 1000-200 in some cases.)
NM Light is a nice Dwarf set
I used it pulling green and white cata mobs 61 - 65 on my BH ...its pretty close to the PDef of BW heavy and the + evasion w/ vr effect make it a nice pole set
i could do a full room solo+buffs and 2 rooms w/ BD very easy
i would still use it but my main switched from NM Plate to Maj and i couldnt see keepin a NM helm around when i could just as easily use Maj on my dwarf
I never use polearms so I was looking for a set that makes me do more dmg and in the case of DC Light, to make me take less damage by evading. Since the evading thing doesn't work so good im saving up for Heavy Tallum not just for the extra def but for the 8% haste. Dual Kesh +4, DC Light, +4 DEX tats, Haste 2, and Zerk is really really fun. ^_^
so if you can't dodge magic or skills it makes evasion useless? so mdef is useless aswell because you can't magic block arrows...
If you have done any higher end pvp you would know that mdef is essentially useless. It means nothing. The only real way to lower the damage of a mystic is propper resist buffs. The difference of 100 mdef takes away 50 or so damage. as opposed to resist buffs, that make the damage insanely low. (100-200 instead of 1000-200 in some cases.)
100 mdef is 10%for me, it is a lot. But meh i don t mind you running with black ore or having 110 evasion lawl...