Servitors & Soloing - Necro vs Summoners

I've been laughing my [censored] off for the past ~1hr because things just became rediculously easy. I've been soloing at the Ivory Tower crater since level 38 and everything is a 2 shot kill except the golem mobs which are 4 or 3 depending on teh type. Eyes and Manashen Gargoyles are 1 shot with Emp/Death SPike and Enchanter Gargs are 2 shot with Emp (shackles having similar MDef/HP as gargs so 3-4).

Well I just got Summon Reanimated Man last night and decided to go try it out. My usual XP is about 20 minutes for 10% (1% every 8 or so mobs, not counting times when herb drops are sketchy and I have to be conservative in case an agro eye comes near me). I usually never kill the Golems/Shackles/Enchanted because I get more EXP killing the lower HP/MDef mobs with less MP used and faster. I usually XP with only self-buffs, only benefiting from herb drops.

This pet is a monster. I got 10% XP in less than 10 minutes (self-buffed + herb benefits). He kills the high HP gargoyles and golems so fast it isn't even funny - without shots. WITH beast soulshots he's takign like 25-35%+ percent of their HP a swing. Eyes and Manashen Gargs die faster than I can probably get a nuke off.

15% XP lost to it, but it's getting me 2.4-3k XP a kill while it kills along with me (both attacking different mobs) so I'm basically getting a 70% XP bonus from using it. Cost is cheap, I broke 10k over what I spent on him (Beast SS + Crystals) and I get my cursed bones from the quest over there. (DS only Enchanter Gargs, so make more Cursed Bones than I spend).

Do other summoners actually have nukes that they can use to kill mobs (in 1-2 shots), or do they have to melee mobs down (not my playstyle). I'm thinking about rolling a Warlock to see how it is.

BTW I'm speaking self-buffed, I don't usually have the time to look for buffs :)

What? I was 1 shotting mobs outside of Giran ( behind arena ) with my new Necro.... and I was using Blaze! It was for 2-3k exp too. 40-49... me making 25% exp per buff round at 49.

You are doing something very... VERY wrong here. Must be several things, actually. Especially if you are gaining exp while using your summon as a necro. I suggest you to rework your hunting method before you consider this a breakthrough.

Ok, first. Necro isn't really a summoner, sort of a half summoner maybe. The true summoner classes (Warlock, Elemental Summoner, Phantom Summoner) do not have nukes to use on mobs other than the ones we got pre-lvl 40. The Necro is more of a nuker class as you continue to get levels of your nuke along with your curses C grade and above. That's really the differnece between the Necro and the Summoners. Summoners use their servitors for everything, since that is really their only weapon. The Necro doesn't really have to use his servitor to level, we do. We can heal and buff our servitors, we get specific buffs for them and our heals are of the same power as a Bishop of equal level. I heal my Kai for well over 1000hp. We also have Cubics that help us along. The Warlock has one of the best personal cubics, that being the binding cubic. When it lands, that's 30 seconds of paralysis.

The Necro is very powerful as a nuker and using the servitor with TP makes them tough in PVP as well. The summoners have their advantages as well. I love my Warlock. Just remember that, though we are a mystics class, we really operate as melee's most of the time. Once we reach lvl 56 and above we might spend more time doing party support with our lvl 56 summons, but when we solo or duo/trio we are melees and we kick some pretty good butt doing it.

trensharo - as a necro, try not to play summoner.

as a summoner myself i cannot play necro, but i still exp faster than you.

i suggest you start using BSPS to level with, or Cursedeathlink. lower your HP down to as low as you can, fire the spell and a heal potion and hit the button for Vamp Claw. it will cost you a bunch of MP, but you will not need BSPS to level and will effectively 2shot the golems if not 1shot. btm'ing to keep your hp down makes the power of CDL go up DRASTICALLY when your health bar is flashing. it also is a dark attack so hunting dark-weak mobs will be beneficial to you. btm'ing will also gain back the mana you spend killing.

when you get the chance, grab a Demon's set and try to get an overenchanted Homunkulus weapon (like +5 or more). now get +wit tattoos and the only things youll need to consume on a regular basis will be Acumen2 potions, Greater heal potions and only need a handful of bsps and cursed bones to make crowd controlling easier.

try not to gloom-nuke. it takes too much time.

if you had chosen the true summoner classes you would require 10x that amount of consumables to level with any kind of speed.

trensharo - as a necro, try not to play summoner.

as a summoner myself i cannot play necro, but i still exp faster than you.

i suggest you start using BSPS to level with, or Cursedeathlink. lower your HP down to as low as you can, fire the spell and a heal potion and hit the button for Vamp Claw. it will cost you a bunch of MP, but you will not need BSPS to level and will effectively 2shot the golems if not 1shot. btm'ing to keep your hp down makes the power of CDL go up DRASTICALLY when your health bar is flashing. it also is a dark attack so hunting dark-weak mobs will be beneficial to you. btm'ing will also gain back the mana you spend killing.

when you get the chance, grab a Demon's set and try to get an overenchanted Homunkulus weapon (like +5 or more). now get +wit tattoos and the only things youll need to consume on a regular basis will be Acumen2 potions, Greater heal potions and only need a handful of bsps and cursed bones to make crowd controlling easier.

try not to gloom-nuke. it takes too much time.

if you had chosen the true summoner classes you would require 10x that amount of consumables to level with any kind of speed.

I am playing as a nuker, as my servitor kills the mobs that I normally don't kill. Personally (on the Necro) I kill about as fast as I do without using it. My point was that the servitor kills the other high HP/MDef mobs faster than I can kill them (with nukes) without using beast SS, and its incredibly cheap.

I don't use Gloom, don't even have that SB yet and prolly won't til a few more levels (500k-1mil, and never on a vendor in Giran/Dion/Oren), I nuke with Blaze 80% of the time, leading off with Vampiric Claw or Death Spike on Enchanted Gargs since otherwise they are a 3 shot kill (with Blaze). The summoner heals are better, but mine are ~600HP currently and I dn't have to cast it cause everytime I pick up an HP herb (while my summon is killing other mobs, for example) he gets the effects.

I'm 44, CDL is a level 52 skill :)

Karmian Set is cheaper than Demon, so I got that. I have farmed every cent of gear on my body personally as I leveled. I had to farm 8mil for my Homu, and then another 2 mil to add the SA to it. I'm not even thinking about tattoos atm. I will most probably level up an SE account in the next few weeks to keep at GKs when I need buffs.

Using DS-Blaze combo saves alot of MP, the only time I need to leave and stop grinding is when I need C Cry or BSpS. I always spam BSpS.

I'm glad I chose Necro, then Lol. Cause I'm not rich by any stretch of immagination. I'm currently killing on Aligator Island with the servitor, the XP rocks Lol.

It's just that I find using the servitor makes me XP about 60-70% faster, make money faster (I can actually break even, since he's killing and NOT using BSpS - and he can still kill if I'm sitting and get me XP), adds more dynamics to playing my class (less monotanous), and allows me to kill bigger mobs with same to less effort than I do two shotting trivial mobs in IT crater.

I was also curious of the true summoner playstyle. I come from EQ where magicians are L2 Sorc-level nukers with the best pets in the game and thought summoners in L2 would be similar. I can't play melee, I can't deal with that playstyle (don't like being all up on the mob, etc.).

I've been laughing my [censored] off for the past ~1hr because things just became rediculously easy. I've been soloing at the Ivory Tower crater since level 38 and everything is a 2 shot kill except the golem mobs which are 4 or 3 depending on teh type. Eyes and Manashen Gargoyles are 1 shot with Emp/Death SPike and Enchanter Gargs are 2 shot with Emp (shackles having similar MDef/HP as gargs so 3-4).

Well I just got Summon Reanimated Man last night and decided to go try it out. My usual XP is about 20 minutes for 10% (1% every 8 or so mobs, not counting times when herb drops are sketchy and I have to be conservative in case an agro eye comes near me). I usually never kill the Golems/Shackles/Enchanted because I get more EXP killing the lower HP/MDef mobs with less MP used and faster. I usually XP with only self-buffs, only benefiting from herb drops.

This pet is a monster. I got 10% XP in less than 10 minutes (self-buffed + herb benefits). He kills the high HP gargoyles and golems so fast it isn't even funny - without shots. WITH beast soulshots he's takign like 25-35%+ percent of their HP a swing. Eyes and Manashen Gargs die faster than I can probably get a nuke off.

15% XP lost to it, but it's getting me 2.4-3k XP a kill while it kills along with me (both attacking different mobs) so I'm basically getting a 70% XP bonus from using it. Cost is cheap, I broke 10k over what I spent on him (Beast SS + Crystals) and I get my cursed bones from the quest over there. (DS only Enchanter Gargs, so make more Cursed Bones than I spend).

Do other summoners actually have nukes that they can use to kill mobs (in 1-2 shots), or do they have to melee mobs down (not my playstyle). I'm thinking about rolling a Warlock to see how it is.

BTW I'm speaking self-buffed, I don't usually have the time to look for buffs :)

Nice to see a new player not complaining about how this or that is hard and suck and archers that crit and blablabla.

And hehe yeah necro is an awesome class, and so polyvalent at your level. Does'nt look like you re looking for suggestions on how to play it so don 't pay attention to spudnik, he like to play without bsps and uses a lot of death penalty charms. Karmian is a great set too.

His suggestion wasn't that bad. By the time you get CDL... you're 52... and those IT mobs are deep blue. He wouldn't die nearly as often as you are implying.

I for one will be in the Valley of Saints from lvl 48 to 67ish. And don't say it can't happen. I already did 48-49 in just under an hour and a half.

I'll be there at 48 :)

Any good place for 44 to 48? IT mobs turning green (I prefer White/pink mobs they all die as fast as the greens anyways).