A question for the Destroyers

I find that sometimes I have a hard time getting Freanzy, Rage, Guts or Zealot to start when mobs are beating on me. Occasionaly I will even die from this. A clanmate with a level 51 Destroyer had the same thing happen to him recently. Has anybody else had this problem? Is there a way around the problem?

had mine interrupted a few times from stun (and a few deaths from lagging while dropping to frenzy too) but not really a consistant problem

yes i have noticed this too, had been poling at the moment and before you say anything it was, to my shame, safe poling where i could control my healthlvl pretty much to anything i wanted.. went to 30% and was gonna pop frenzy but i had to try several times for it to work. When it finally worked it was just before i died cause i wasnt able to swing after the skill went off and i forgot to pay attention to my hp >.< lol

Not a Problem with me..I don't use frenzy often during AoE I prefer Gutz..but when im running around with my 2h I just get 3 mobs, VR, and wait till I get down till 1600 hp then I go and 2 shot everything ^^ at 5X in that minute and a half I can get almost 2% which is decent IMO.

I aoe alot and i have no problem with it..I do use a cursed dagger with rsk haste. With the speed I do activate rage/frenzy/zealot alot quicker...and the skills do regen alot quicker. I activate Frenzy,Rage,Zealot Greater heal pot + Battle roar in that order. See if that helps.

apart from lag and really bad luck on mob crits i never really had a problem activating it

do you check the status window to see if "x is not availiable at this time. being prepared for reuse" pops up? cause often skills with long cooldowns look like they are ready but they arent

I will try Nameless suggestion. Because I did notice that happening once with Rage, when I was trying to activate it before I went to a group of mobs.

You can check before you get to low hp whether they are ready or not. If you click on it and it say it is not ready do to being prepared, I wouldnt go to low hp, alhtough it will say cannot be used due to unsuitable terms if it is up and ready to be used. I usually will tap it between trains while my hp is higher jsut to make sure it is read. I have never had a problem getting it to work on time though.(except when I hit the wrong button and sit down, or something)

combo battle roar,

In addition I find doing stoping right before the wall wait til hp is at 40% the run the rest of the way, in the last volley mobs do you will get to 30% then they have to run up to you.

I am curious about your use of the Cursed Dagger:Rsk.Haste. Since you say you AOE, I assume you are using a pole for killing mobs. At what points do you arm and disarm the dagger? Do you arm the dagger after you kill the mob train, then wait for the skills to become available again (and the room(s) to re-spawn? Also, what buffs do you use for Attack Speed, if any? I myself have a boxed WC, and I'm wearing Tallum Heavy.

same buff setup as you (though I box a bishop as well for heals and BoA) even poling 2 rooms at once I have enough hp I can equip the dagger mid poling pop frenzy + battle roar or guts + pot and be fine.

however, ideally when I go to get more mobs I hang around in the room and let the mobs hit me (if I am really bored take of the armor and let em hit me) till my hp is getting low, grab all the non aggros then equip the dagger head for a corner and pop guts or frenzy whichever is ready.

I am curious about your use of the Cursed Dagger:Rsk.Haste. Since you say you AOE, I assume you are using a pole for killing mobs. At what points do you arm and disarm the dagger? Do you arm the dagger after you kill the mob train, then wait for the skills to become available again (and the room(s) to re-spawn? Also, what buffs do you use for Attack Speed, if any? I myself have a boxed WC, and I'm wearing Tallum Heavy.

The recharge rate of the skills is baised on you attack speed when u use the skills, so equip dagger, use skills, kill go about your business. it doesn't care what your attack speed is the rest of the time.

OK, so you can, and do, actually use the dagger while you are working the room, Other then being cheap for weapon purchase, is there any reason not use a higher grade dagger with the Rsk.Haste SA?

I believe Cursed Daggers give the highest Rsk. Haste bonus. I believe it is about 13%.

I believe Cursed Daggers give the highest Rsk. Haste bonus. I believe it is about 13%.

it is the cheaper of the 2 weapons that gives a 13% boost to atk speed (forget the other off the top of my head)

OK, so you can, and do, actually use the dagger while you are working the room, Other then being cheap for weapon purchase, is there any reason not use a higher grade dagger with the Rsk.Haste SA?

You do not need to actually stab anything with the dagger, you just need to have it equipped when you use frenzy/guts. An equip dagger, useskill, equip pole macro could be good if you do not have trouble breaking macros.

I believe Cursed Daggers give the highest Rsk. Haste bonus. I believe it is about 13%.

it is the cheaper of the 2 weapons that gives a 13% boost to atk speed (forget the other off the top of my head)



When HP drops to 60% or lower :)

I believe the other is the Dark Elven Dagger.

Thanks folks, this last round of replies helped me to understand in detail what to do.

I am curious about your use of the Cursed Dagger:Rsk.Haste. Since you say you AOE, I assume you are using a pole for killing mobs. At what points do you arm and disarm the dagger? Do you arm the dagger after you kill the mob train, then wait for the skills to become available again (and the room(s) to re-spawn? Also, what buffs do you use for Attack Speed, if any? I myself have a boxed WC, and I'm wearing Tallum Heavy.

oh, I forgot to mention...with the dagger, I equip it hit 1 or 3 mobs and when my hp is within frenzy range I activate all the necessary skills with the dagger equipped and the regen on them will be 13% faster...equip the pole arm and your all set.