Well, this is my second day in Lineage II and i'm almost at level 20 to do my first class change. Intially, i wanted to take the road to become a Hawkeye, but as i have been leveling.. i've been thinking different options - Hawkeye or Gladiator?
I want to be pretty good at PvE aswell as PvP, but which one to choose? Which one is the more expensive class to play? Opinions please.
P.S. Sorry if this has been posted before, but i've had a quick look and couldn't find any.
Well, i do plan on staying here on Lineage II for as long as i can. I really like this game, so another question.. on a long term basis? From your post above i assume you would say Hawkeye?
Learn one thing in lineage 2 ranged > close quarters. Ncsoft still trying to balance this but in mass pvp as a glad you will probably die before hit someone twice. You can take down mages if they flag first and maybe the other malee fighters, but your chance of catch an archer still minimal.
actually gladi and tyrant both can catch archers. in interlude however, now we dont need to. our blasters have enough range and power to 3 shot an archer.
about PvE, I would pick an gladiator. archers mostly tend to soloing. sure, they get group, put most of the time you will be banned to the open plains...and, ahh, sunlight!!! it will ruin you skin!!! I havent been abow ground for ages!!...
back to reality.
realy, melees are funnier in PvE, at least thats what I like more.
actually, archers > glads at pve. I don't think anyone here can truthfully argue otherwise.
and yes with proper buffs and equipment, (which means a lvl 78 archer with s grade weapon w/SA, a 78 warcrier, and boss jewels) and archer will most likely roll a glad, but i don't really know anything that can stand up to that kind of dmg.
However if the archer doesn't have all of that, he'll get rolled by a glad of the same lvl that knows what he's doing. especially in sgrade.
ofc a archer outdamages a glad, but that wasent my point.
An archer is stuck to use his bow, and limited to what areas and type of groups he can join. no catacombs or pagans for archers etc. a glad can use his duals or equip a pole and level faster than any archer ever could.
The only way i see an archer leveling faster then a gladiator would be if he boxed an SWS/BD and had full buffs. Archer's do kill a single mob faster, i agree, but he cant AOE / Pull multiples like a Gladiator can.
ofc a archer outdamages a glad, but that wasent my point.
An archer is stuck to use his bow, and limited to what areas and type of groups he can join. no catacombs or pagans for archers etc. a glad can use his duals or equip a pole and level faster than any archer ever could.
true HE isnt a free ticket 2 pwwn in pvp pve as some ppl thing however it isnt the hardest class it
if you wanna lv fast(er) and grind pvp with more versatile skills
then pick gladdy but your gonna get ganked sometimes by nukers or archers (dont we all :<) dont get me wrong you can kill like some1 said before
or if you wanna play a ranged DD pick HE atm there a lil overpowerd a lil less not crits got nerfed
it doesnt have the most versitile skills so you prob get bored @ some point ^^ but just bite througd it its worth it:)
Gladiator is a killer class if you play it right. It comes into it's own about 60 or so and at 78 is beast and with Interlude, 79 is going to be unbelieveable. So take it or leave it, I love my gladdy and wouldn't trade him for the world. :)
ofc a archer outdamages a glad, but that wasent my point.
An archer is stuck to use his bow, and limited to what areas and type of groups he can join. no catacombs or pagans for archers etc. a glad can use his duals or equip a pole and level faster than any archer ever could.
lol ok
The archers you know must truly suck. Archers in Pagan ROCKS! Especially for HE's, Snipe and you can reach all the mobs from the other side of the room. Catacombs are soooo easy, get a BD and you can clean 2 rooms. Just need the right party setup.
Well, this is my second day in Lineage II and i'm almost at level 20 to do my first class change. Intially, i wanted to take the road to become a Hawkeye, but as i have been leveling.. i've been thinking different options - Hawkeye or Gladiator?
I want to be pretty good at PvE aswell as PvP, but which one to choose? Which one is the more expensive class to play? Opinions please.
P.S. Sorry if this has been posted before, but i've had a quick look and couldn't find any.
Both are good classes IMO. HE is very very very dependant on buffs. unbuffed you suck [fill in the blank]. Buffed on the other hand.... you can destroy most any other class.
Gladdy is dependant on buffs, but not as much. Gladdy unbuffed can still deal decent damage because they are skill based.
as far as cost goes.... Gladdy is waaay cheaper (unless you dont use soul shots). You will lose money as an archer of any kind spamming soulshots (until S grade I hear).
My suggestion would be to figure out what type of grouping situation you want to be in. If you are the type that boxes a buffer, then HE can lvl very fast. If not, you may have trouble finding non clan parties. Gladdy is much more likely to be picked up in a cata party cause they arent as likely to die if they take aggro.
The only way i see an archer leveling faster then a gladiator would be if he boxed an SWS/BD and had full buffs. Archer's do kill a single mob faster, i agree, but he cant AOE / Pull multiples like a Gladiator can.
wow you two are so neive! (heartfang, duongo)
Archers can lvl anywhere!
I've been in pagens, 2 archers(HE, SR), 1 BD, my PP, and a EE, with a oop PoF pp. And we had so much fun, killed so fast it was scarry.
I've once taken my HE into CoA, killed those mobs really fast. solo with pp buffs.
About the only place a Archer doesn't belong is in FoG!!
But to those that claim that Glads make more money then a Archer is wrong. Shots mite cost a tad, arrows are easy to make. other wise archers make the most Adena, cause they kill the fastest, and stay out the longest.
To OP, as you can tell by the other posters, there is no clear answer to your question. Ask yourslef this, do you like to stay active in the game, or are you looking to be passive. As a gladdy, you will be more interactive, as an archer you will be more passive. Both are great classes, however it depends on how you want to play the game.
Only archers I ever se in pagans are dead on the ground. actualy never ever seen a live archer hunt there. and I cant imgaine how it would work with no vr-ability. you gotta have some badass healer with unlimited mana.
anyway, even the ultimate buffed archer cant out-xp an poler. can an archer kill 16-24 x4 HP mobs every 2 min? o.O I dident know they could.
ohh btw, come to think about it, I have seen archer lvl in pagans, but they always use a kris....pffftt
Only archers I ever se in pagans are dead on the ground. actualy never ever seen a live archer hunt there. and I cant imgaine how it would work with no vr-ability. you gotta have some badass healer with unlimited mana.
anyway, even the ultimate buffed archer cant out-xp an poler. can an archer kill 16-24 x4 HP mobs every 2 min? o.O I dident know they could.
ohh btw, come to think about it, I have seen archer lvl in pagans, but they always use a kris....pffftt
Only archers I ever se in pagans are dead on the ground. actualy never ever seen a live archer hunt there. and I cant imgaine how it would work with no vr-ability. you gotta have some badass healer with unlimited mana.
anyway, even the ultimate buffed archer cant out-xp an poler. can an archer kill 16-24 x4 HP mobs every 2 min? o.O I dident know they could.
ohh btw, come to think about it, I have seen archer lvl in pagans, but they always use a kris....pffftt
Archers can use polearms too! Nobody ever argued about polearms here.. dude.
archer is very depandent on it's equippment- bow. other char can boost it's own demage. but archer can't , it depands on other's buff and it's own-----bow
The archers you know must truly suck. Archers in Pagan ROCKS! Especially for HE's, Snipe and you can reach all the mobs from the other side of the room. Catacombs are soooo easy, get a BD and you can clean 2 rooms. Just need the right party setup.
hmm you can party in cata but when you got agro on your *** your kind of screwed very fast
Hawkeye pvp shines at level 61+. this will take a long time.
gladi pvp is substantially easier and begins to really rock around 56.
take gladi. you will not be dissapointed.
Your Gladiator knowledge amazes me really. Gladiators do not have it easy compared to other classes who just push 1 or buttons. While at 56 we get our bread and butter skill TSS it doesnt mean we rock from that level, hence why many people that get dissaponted after reaching this lvl. Most classes can reach their pottential earlier while a Gladiator starts to see their pottential at 70+. So no, a Gladiator is not easy even with all the boost the class got. You have the power to 2 or 3 shot mages/archer but dont make that sound so easy because it aint
The archers you know must truly suck. Archers in Pagan ROCKS! Especially for HE's, Snipe and you can reach all the mobs from the other side of the room. Catacombs are soooo easy, get a BD and you can clean 2 rooms. Just need the right party setup.
hmm you can party in cata but when you got agro on your *** your kind of screwed very fast
solo in cata is a no go with bow
I don't see the problem, if you want you can even grab a dagger and go at it in a Cata. Wear armor? :p
Solo.. you mean iron man solo, no outside buffs? That's like torturing yourself, even in open field. Prophet/SE + Archer = no problemo. Fields are generally better with combo though.
yeah i have enough dps to be the only dd in pagans with proper support, sws bd healer, it's still kinda slow xp in there imo. Nothing beats 1 or 2 archers in the L room. And yeah it's pretty lol a fully buffed pr 1 shots those 80+ 6x mobs in IT.
lol to the person that said a glad will level faster than an archer. but anyway, both are great classes... depends on what you wanna do, close or ranged combat. After Cgrade, archers arn't that expensive (Cgrade 40-51 sucks cause Emi bow costs like 10 Css per shot) and any class that can 1-2 shot mobs for awesome xp isn't going to level slow, and it isn't going to cost alot. One day xping in FG i made 1.5mil adena, spamming SS with almost zero down time (had prof for buffs)
Well, this is my second day in Lineage II and i'm almost at level 20 to do my first class change. Intially, i wanted to take the road to become a Hawkeye, but as i have been leveling.. i've been thinking different options - Hawkeye or Gladiator?
I want to be pretty good at PvE aswell as PvP, but which one to choose? Which one is the more expensive class to play? Opinions please.
P.S. Sorry if this has been posted before, but i've had a quick look and couldn't find any.
i really really think a pole dude lvs faster then a archer .....
depends
most pole dudes just watch the xp they get when they kill the mobs, they dont usually take into consideration pull and kill time
COV archer party is more than likely the best xp anyone will every get
problem with archers is they need very little support to be a very effective pve class while pole users will have to keep kicking it up a notch (bs, sws, bishop) to keep up with the overpowered mobs
just not me
think ive only been in a handful of pole groups that i considered good xp and that involved leeching from destros
fact is a good pole group requires alot of support and a good archer party requires an archer and a lvl 50ish oop phrophet
PR is more versatile, with some effort you can really go and solo mobs anywhere, for quests like TOI in c4 i was doing 8th floor with a prophet and sometimes with boxed bd. Runspeed and hex is pretty good. HE has more crit rate and hawkeye, wich is an awesome skill, lets you level easily in spots like VOS.
Xping in open field without resistant mobs is faster on HE. I'd say HE or PR with oop prophet and bd and no wartags could do a level in aprox. 8 hours 70-76.
AOE is the fastest way to level, and you don't need that much support at all untill 7x. Archer needs at least prophet and bd at 7x anyway