Best PvP char

Who is better in PvP ???
mystic who can put silence,
or fighter who can kill with some shots..

I think SpellHowler is the best in PvP and the only one who he has to afraid is an archer (espessialy SR cuz he can interupt him all the time)

ok, well you really shouldnt have asked this question :P
you opened up a door for people to start ranting about how great their class is at PVP and why its better than everyone elses
that being said, it has been my experience that every class in the game has their own unique skills and talents that make them useful in PVP
sure archers are great but where would they be without buffers or dancers
mages are great but hard to level due to waiting for MP all the time, so thats where rechargers come in (and in PVP)
It seems that any class can excel at PVP if you play it correctly and have a nice group set up.
imo, find something that sounds fun to play, and play it, no matter what you will be able to PVP and be good at it

also, are you talking about group PVP or just 1v1 ?

that just my 2 cents

maybe i shouldnt, but i did..

i want to know about PVP groups and fair 1v1, but 1v1 often isnt fair, someone calls somebody else to help :)

well PVP 1v1, can always be unfair, everyclass has its negative points, and there is always a different class that can exploit that weakness in 1v1 PVP ...so thats really up to you at which you think is better
i.e. nukers are great cause they can take away lots of HP fast, but at the same time they can be silenced or mana drained by other mages in 1v1

group PVP every class is valuable
a good WC for buffs, a good OL for ally buffs and CP heal, a good dancer or singer to bump stats, a good archer (or 5), nukers, all are 100% needed for successfull group PVP

the real question i feel you should be asking is, once you decide what tpe of character you want to play, archer, dagger, nuker, buffer, etc... then you should try to find out which in that type is the best.
as stated above, SH's are claimed to be (and i agree) the best nukers, however that is only helpful if you want to play a nuker

SH is even better than necro ?

I personally have the less problems killing SH's from all mages, on main and sub.

Correct me if i am wrong, but isn't a necro a summoner, not a nuker?
What with the Summon's that they get :P ?

SH is even better than necro ?

No, but then again, you have to understand that the game "really" isn't designed around one vs one pvp.

Sh's are huge swaths of damage that happen slower than other casters.

Other classes should be engaging the enemy at closer range and SH's stay in the back.

Put several SHs on a wall to obliterate what comes through the gate, etc.

Not to say they can't do one vs one pvp but against archers or a necro of similiar lvls?

It is just not going to work.

Then again, an SH gets lucky and lands silence on the necro then maybe a different story, no?

Sometimes the smallest things can turn the battle.

I personally have the less problems killing SH's from all mages, on main and sub.

Because they are 2 shot. No lie.

Necros outdamage SHs simply because they have twice the hp (loltransferpain) and cast speed... so why would anyone ever compare the two.

SHs own PVE though.

HE > all

Hes aren't overbuffed all the time. Not that it matters with the current nerf on DW and the like <3

Official forums are always a fun read..lvl 40's giving advice on things when they got no clue how the game works.

sh is the worst pvp nuker because it has the lowest cast speed. sh's also suck in olympiad. Oh yeah, all their nukes can be blocked now too.

The "nerf of DW" is not a nerf on DW at all. It's a nerf when you have both DW and dance of fire. It's also not a very big nerf. Archers still crit for 8k dmg.

Yeah seriously, archers such as HE still own at pvp. Light armor, decent hp, range = complete joke against a SH. On the interlude PTS I dueled a stormscreamer with a +7 arcana, I still destroyed him as a saggi before he got through my CP.

DW by itself seems less effective (I never have DoF).

BH spoils you anyday! Ph34r!

The "nerf of DW" is not a nerf on DW at all. It's a nerf when you have both DW and dance of fire. It's also not a very big nerf. Archers still crit for 8k dmg.

This is incorrect.

The "nerf of DW" is not a nerf on DW at all. It's a nerf when you have both DW and dance of fire. It's also not a very big nerf. Archers still crit for 8k dmg.

This is incorrect.

lol let me re-word what I said.

You don't even notice the nerf unless you have both of them. They changed the modifer from 1.5 to 1.4 or something for both of them from what I can tell. You barely even notice a difference in damage if you only have dw or if you only have dof. When you do have both, the difference still isn't that much.

Now that is correct.

N E C R O M A N C E R

Too many skills eliminate teh summon now. Erase, turn undead, even fear from other nukers.

But they have a powerful ranged attack, para, silence, not to mention drains...

You don't need a summon if you got para or silence. Most likely you will silence your target before it erases your dirty little zombie man...and if not...well then you can silence or para the person anyway...

You don't even notice the nerf unless you have both of them.

I only ever have DW, and I do notice the difference. Aggro is slipping off me onto my servitor more frequently, and I can't solo the same mobs with the same ease anymore.

trust them, don't play SH, they are very slow and boring......but yes, their dmg is higher than other mages.

then again, speed is everything. archer can interupt you most of the time.

if you want speed SPS is your d00d BUT they got the worst mana mangement of them all :<

if you want speed SPS is your d00d BUT they got the worst mana mangement of them all :<

Not really, Sorc is worse.

Can a SH kill a worsmith with his machanic golem unleashed?

Yes, first they'll cast slow on the WarSmith then they'll go rent a movie and when they come back they'll cast a couple of nukes and the fight is over.

if you want speed SPS is your d00d BUT they got the worst mana mangement of them all :<

Not really, Sorc is worse.



HMMM last time i checked sps casts WAY WAy faster with tats acu DC

plus we also dont got btm just like SS and i dont think we got more mp especially with the tats that **** your mp

SS doesnt casts as fast so doesnt run out of mana as fast as an SPS ...... so sps does have the worst mana mangement..

Best buffed PvP character?
Hawkeye/Sag...
Why?
-longest range
-most damage
-most damage/period of time (efficiency >>>>> Magic)
-No useful defenses against archery... magic can be buffed against and fairly heavily mitigated where even the strongest tank classes take hefty damage from archery. The fact that archery costs so little per shot also adds to this argument.
(oh well, I spent 24 mana total and did 1 damage this time and 6k the next... the mage did 600 twice for 144 mana...)

Unbuffed PvP
Necro
-Necro = double HP mage
-Necros can be countered in many ways, but while you do that he is chomping away at your health...
-Necro has the most 1-hit wins in the game period.
Silence, paralyze, Doom... did I mention gloom?
Sure, they don't hit all the time, but a necro can more often than not completely destroy characters with a wave (or two) of his hand...
-Note dark damage can be heavily buffed against, but frankly most people don't buff far enough to kill you before you kill them.