Does anyone know when US servers be providing added service as in Korean servers? (transfer characters to different account, gender change, name change,etc..)
thats the biggest problem atm.
last saturday there was a presentation in Greece in a computer store.
with a small contest and a few prizes, also everybody that bought the interlude box (no epic mask included :( ) they took part in a lottery and won some prizes (i won a set of portable speakers. huhu).
what i wanted to say is, the only place i saw adv for this, was only in 1 forum of mmo's and nothing more.
though Greece has a big part of L2 community, only 4-5 people came and guess what was the WORST part of all.
i was the only one of 5 that i m playing on retail server :eek: .
i was really disappointed on that but what kept me a bit happy was a t-shirt with NC/L2/Interlude logos (i wish i could have the ****ed mask as the adv was claiming but nahhhh)
i cant imagine that there are more players elsewhere than retail servers, especially in my country.
\unhappy
*Edit: by wanted to avoid the irrelevance of this post is, that no serious advert will probably take place. Euro/NA market is probably not NC's main concern BUT we still want to play the game cause we love it, and this game is not for a few people but as the name says its a ****ed MMORPG, what we dont have is a satisfying "MM" part, but just an "ORPG"
Entire alliances move to a new server with transfers, we currently hold Aden, Giran, Goddard, Rune and Oren castles. We wont get to keep them, so why transfer? Server merges sound great and all, but it would only cost NCSoft subscribers. Nobody will be willing to give up everything they have worked for in terms of power just to get a better population.
Server transfers would be a nightmare. I know for a fact that those raid boss farmer clans have used names of normal players from Lionna on Kain, so those names are now taken. Also I can see some of the end game alliances PAYING people to transfer over if they are classes they need.
I for one do NOT want transfers or name changes. It will only RUIN what is left of this game.
Lots of alliances won't move, because it is server transfer, not clan or ally transfer. I doubt level 7 clan with gazillion clan skills moves to occupy your castles just like that. You can safely keep them, there won't be enough people to fight you, no worries.
doesn't matter if the service isn't right for you personally, fact is there is alot of us that would use the service, farmers aside, i want a name change/sex change on my toon,
reason?
1)im tired of playing a female toon.
2) someone else on the server i play on has a similar name and i often get confused for being this person, sometimes pk'd because they dont like the other person and think its me.
just because you can think of a bunch of different ways farmers can use it, doesn't mean that us legit players dont have a legitimate reason to use the service
server transfers? i know for a fact that alot of other servers have high level players on it, that like nothing more to pvp, but their server is pretty much dead so they dont get all the fun we do on bartz, or other populated servers, and just end up not playing because they dont want to put another couple years into leveling their toon.
if Korea gets it, then so should we, plus im sure NCsoft NA would be more then happy to have another source of revenue for a game that isnt doing aswell as it should.
Wow hey look another thread exactly the same as I just posted in, let me just copy/paste.
Theres a few things you guys need to get about korea L2, and NA L2.
Nothing we post on these offical boards will affect Lineage 2 in anyway for us whatsoever.
Korea's L2 is alot better, then will get more events, more server transfers, sex change, anything.
We basically get a dumbed down version of what Korea gets.
Do not expect transfers, or anything of that nature, EVER.
Infact, its a waste of time to make and write these topics, 90% will not be read, and the ones that are read will have zero action taken to have them implemented.
Im correct, I KNOW im correct, so just listen to me, and learn to stop making these threads.
it's not going to stop us posting about it though :P
btw am from Kain and the allaince I'm with holds atm all castles but for Innadril & has several lvl7 clans
and guess what most of us are willing to give that all up for transfers/merge as we know we can do it
again and are not afraid to do so.
Why do people think we need more players, lol. I can't hardly find a place to hunt these days with so many noobs creeping up on 70 and trying to hunt in the good spots (and doing badly, I might add).
All these people moving up to 70+.... Without new blood to replace what is lost. The population will slowly decrease.
Then the new blood gets 70+ and takes up more precious hunting areas; there will never be a sprawling noobie population, ever. 90% of noobs level too fast to stay in noob zones.
Well, if grouping was as good xp as soloing, the group areas would be used. At least on Lionna, most 70+ group areas are mostly empty. DVC, empty. ToI, empty. FoG empty. Imperial Tomb - mostly empty. MoS empty. Meanwhile, Blazing Swamp - full, WoA - full, Silenos - full, Hot Springs - full, Beast Farm - full.
If areas outside of catacombs were as good xp as catacombs, you'd find people hunting there. Also, if catacombs weren't largely crowded with bots, there would be more places to hunt there.
There is no lack of hunting areas. Its just that all hunting areas weren't created equally. See the threads about Dino Island for a good example of this.
Entire alliances move to a new server with transfers, we currently hold Aden, Giran, Goddard, Rune and Oren castles. We wont get to keep them, so why transfer? Server merges sound great and all, but it would only cost NCSoft subscribers. Nobody will be willing to give up everything they have worked for in terms of power just to get a better population.
Server transfers would be a nightmare. I know for a fact that those raid boss farmer clans have used names of normal players from Lionna on Kain, so those names are now taken. Also I can see some of the end game alliances PAYING people to transfer over if they are classes they need.
I for one do NOT want transfers or name changes. It will only RUIN what is left of this game.
Doesn't sound like you have much left to ruin if one alliance controls all that. Sounds like your server is pretty terrible. I sure wouldn't want to be on it. One side controlling everything is extremely boring.
"Korean" isn't a race, it's a nationality... the same as saying "American" or "French" or "Greek" or "Irish" or whatever... we arent separate races, we're different nationalities.
Guess what? That doesnt matter in this context. What is important is that we're different markets... and in market, there is only one colour, green (to use the US dollar analogy).
For the most part, I dont see the need, or use, for these services that people want in any real legitimate way. If you gave yourself a stupid name at character creation... too bad. I dont like mine so much, but I live with it. Wanted to see some pixelated T&A when you started playing, but now question your masculinity because you play a female toon? Too bad, seek counseling. Burned your server out and want to try something on another server? Reroll.
korea is doing way better in terms of the money their making off of L2, they have alot more advertising/events and everything else that makes the game more fun, were getting half ***** on stuff, L2 is a great game, if NCsoft NA put some effort into it like the asian markets do, then we'd have alot more players, not a dying game.
not what i would of expected, the US is the most powerfull country in the world, with the strongest economy, and here we are gettin short changed.
i dont care if you dont see a need for it, if 60% of you dont see a need for it, it dont matter, there still the other 40% of us that do want it, and will pay for it, and belive me NCsoft needs the money, they're out sourcing their help to india, they've laid people off, if this stuff say anything about how their business is doing, they should implement this stuff
(and yes they have out sourced their help to india or something, i did a petition for a quest, and some guy with broken english told me many happiness with my quest, and may vishnu guide me or something like that)
just cause your happy with your toon, your server, doesnt mean everyone else is, this gives other players the oppertunity to continue enjoying the game, im sure some people for example, started playing in High school, and now they have jobs, and rent to pay, and cant afford to waste another year to hit top level cause the player count has been constantly going down, when you buy an L2 game box it says 14mil world wide, most of that is in korea/china/japan/taiwan.
the services are needed if ncsoft doesn't want this game to just die out like a **** in the wind.
i dont particularly have a problem playing a female character, my main problem is that someone else on my server has a similar name, and i catch hell for it, even though i had the name first why should i not beable to enjoy playing like everyone else does, i would stick with a female character if i could think of a name i liked, but the name i have in mind is masculine, so i figured why not do a sex change too, i'd be more then happy to hand NCsoft $60 for the 3 services i want to use.
stop trying to fight progress, if theres one thing you should understand is never ask for a nerf, or lack of new services, cause when we do stuff like that we get stuff like making Warlords/Mages worthless in pve
its people who think like you that is making this game goto the gutter, no wonder so many people are going/have gone to private servers, they have more services then us.
We don't plan on implementing any new services in the near future, but they continue to be under consideration. Many factors must still be considered, including guidelines, feasibility, and so on. The discussion and comments here on the board on this topic continue to be useful and valuable, but I won't be able to give much more information than this.
So the answer isn't quite "never," but more like "not right now".
We dont understand how it is not feasable if korea has this already implemented.
Ive seen over 10 threads in the past month with 20-30 people supporting the key issues and MANY more on l2blah.
Quite a few large clans are sick of their servers and want to move on to bigger and better things, Im on the verge myself of quitting, i log and im bored of the server, its 1 big zerg fest and no way to change it, i want a move and im not getting all the way to noble on some other server simply put, many others feel this way, int he past month i know of 12 noble characters who have unsubscribed from my "friends circle" alone.
Wont be long till they end up ahving "new owners" im sure sadly though, the way it goes and hurting to see =/
I dont understand how it is not feasable if korea has this already implemented. [aside from spudnik - maybe if you knew how many people have the privilege of coding things at NCNAHQ you would understand. see, NOBODY does coding for anything but the website. can you spell Translation ? thought you might :) ]
Ive seen over 10 threads in the past month with 20-30 people supporting the key issues and MANY more on l2blah.
Quite a few large clans are sick of their servers and want to move to other servers and actually fight the powermad clans on that server, Im on the verge myself of quitting, i log and im bored of the server, its 1 big zerg fest and no way to change it, i want a move and im not getting all the way to noble on some other server because i cant be bothered. simply put, a handful of others in an otherwise already esoteric group feel this way, int he past month i know of 12 noble characters who have unsubscribed from my "friends circle" alone.
Wont be long till they end up ahving "new owners that also could not be bothered to reroll" im sure sadly though, the way it goes and hurting to see =/
Geez spud i dont know where id be without your insight to put words in my mouth!
Actually that is why you OUTSOURCE contractors to code it into the systems and databases, i mean they already have the code all they need is to translate it into the right language, sure it may cost them what 50k? and then 10k a year to keep maintained? It would easily pull in over 100k a year, so yes it is quite feasible.
Spud, i know about 50 people who would play Actively as in 5-6 hours a day, who are logging in only for seiges, if they could transfer servers and have constant pvp
Geez spud i dont know where id be without your insight to put words in my mouth!
Actually that is why you OUTSOURCE contractors to code it into the systems and databases, i mean they already have the code all they need is to translate it into the right language, sure it may cost them what 50k? and then 10k a year to keep maintained? It would easily pull in over 100k a year, so yes it is quite feasible.
Spud, i know about 50 people who would play Actively as in 5-6 hours a day, who are logging in only for seiges, if they could transfer servers and have constant pvp
i can see and watch anywhere from 10k to 100k people outside your little 50 person family and most of them couldnt care less about transferring anything to where at whatever cost. they just wanna play with their friends.
all of which dont voice their opinion for the opposite reason you choose to voice yours.
Spud how about sticking to the actual point here, we're talking
about the differences between the NC US services and that of
NC Korea.
There are no technical reasons besides that of translations that
would stop NC US to provide us the same services as their mother
company in Korea does to their customer base.
All we are asking here is to receive equal service as that which is
provided in Korea.
Spud how about sticking to the actual point here, we're talking
about the differences between the NC US services and that of
NC Korea.
There are no technical reasons besides that of translations that
would stop NC US to provide us the same services as their mother
company in Korea does to their customer base.
All we are asking here is to receive equal service as that which is
provided in Korea.
since when are we treated with less respect or due-dilligence?
just because we dnt have the luxury of transferring servers or accounts? gender? name?
for goodness sakes!
luxuries are not something to be demanded. it is NOT necessary to switch servers for anyone in this game to have fun. nor is it necessary to change genders.
since when are we treated with less respect or due-dilligence?
One could say we are treated with less respect when we...
Dont get timely updates ala Korea
Dont get the myraid of events Korea gets
Dont get the quality GM service Korea gets
Dont get the commitment to stop Bots Korea gets
Dont get the Ad/Product Tie in's Korea gets
Dont get the services Korea gets
etc etc etc
However, we all know thats not gonna change. Korea/China are their money makers, not the NA market. Would be nice, but it isnt.. oh well :)
we get updated after korea for a reason. and not cause we dont get respect.
we have 1/10th the base market of korea. our events are flaccid and sparse for that reason. thusly the reason for lack of gms.
did you WANT a midaeval fantasy game with sportscar and make up ads? try anarchy online.
your ignorance exceeds your intelligence.
grasp a picture larger than your ego for a moment and realise who you are and where you belong.
if you think youre being treated with less respect than any korean or japanese or euro playing this game, you are arrogant as well as ignorant.
we get updated after korea for a reason. and not cause we dont get respect.
we have 1/10th the base market of korea. our events are flaccid and sparse for that reason. thusly the reason for lack of gms.
did you WANT a midaeval fantasy game with sportscar and make up ads? try anarchy online.
your ignorance exceeds your intelligence.
grasp a picture larger than your ego for a moment and realise who you are and where you belong.
if you think youre being treated with less respect than any korean or japanese or euro playing this game, you are arrogant as well as ignorant.
Hello little ******... if you, *gasp*, actually read the post, I completely agree with you.. albeit in a less childlike fashion.
As I said, Korea and China are the money makers of L2, so its doubtfull we'll ever get the premium service they get.. unless we somehow nab another 1 million subscribers out of thin air.
As to the Ad's if you knew what it was I was talking about, you'd realize it is absolutely nothing like Anarchy Online, but a Fantasy based deal.
Ok guys who keep saying we have no right to voice our opinions:
While it is true there are more korean users than here, that is because they have a different operating style for most of their accounts, through pc bang (game rooms).
However, after going through their IR report, I have come up with some very basic, not 100% accurate numbers. If you want to check these numbers, please BE MY GUEST. Maybe you can do the math better than me. NCSoft is a public company and most of their stuff is available online on the corporate site.
Total Lineage 2 Sales 2006
$128,455,121
Korea Lineage 2 Sales 2006
$73,122,888
North America + Europe Lineage 2 Sales 2006
$34,275,547
Other countries Lineage 2 Sales (Japan, Thailand, etc) 2006
$21,056,686
So. You tell me. Do we have a right to ask for developer feedback/events/same services/items Korea gets?
It sure looks like it. Please quit saying WELL OMG WE NEED 1 MILLION MORE PPL TO MAKE COMMENTS. Those are mass accounts, we pay more proportionally than any of those Korean clients do. We should get $34 million worth of customer service, instead we get much, much less.
Considering L2 has somewhere in the neighborhood of 1.5/1.7 million subscribers... 100K of which are in the US/Euro, that leaves 1.4/1.6 million subscribers unaccounted for.
100,000 active accounts also only accounts for a $18 million dollar revune. The rest I'd assume is from boxed sales of L2, especially with the huge popularity the live servers are gaining from the Russian area (where they have to buy the box).
Where as the majority of Korean cash is from established accounts (1.1/1.2 million as of last report..) thus far more profitable.
Remember, everytime you sell a Box set you are losing money, not making. Everytime you gather a sub you are making money.
No ones saying you cant voice your opinions, just that, like most things, your input is likely to be heard in one ear and straight out the other.
Right, I don't dispute that. I'm just trying to point out that we contribute half of the monetary value of what Korea contributes, and do not get anywhere near half of the bonus stuff or value as a customer that they get.
:)
Certainly, having a million more players should give them a voice to be heard, however, you can't disregard the $$$ we provide and that should get us a voice as well. I think the problem is, they are taking away money from Lineage 2 here in NA/Europe and funneling that to provide development costs or help support other failing enterprises.
I do have to disagree on your subscription numbers though, I think your NA/Europe value was probably right, but in Korea there are probably 1.3 million or less, especially since introduction of Burning Crusade, I bet they are bleeding customers at the moment (unless Kamael really takes off). 1.3 million was back in March 2006 and since then they have had heavy, heavy competition.
Heck if NC Soft actually did some changes, I would have no hesitation at paying a whole year's subscription all at once; I know if it were marketed correctly, you could probably get a bit more people to do so as well. You reward a loyal company by being a loyal customer; we have loyal customers, but not a loyal company.
If I had to guess, I'd say NA's money is being funneled straight into Tabula Rosa (or however you spell it), as that is expected to be NCSoft NA's "Big" hit. (After Auto Assault flopped that is, and City of Hero's having luke warm numbers, although a niche cult following)
I'd settle just for a quality staff of GM's and timely website updates.. but hell if we had a quarter for every wish.
since the rest of the threads of this kind are getting deleted/locked and there is a link to this one,
*EDIT*Assuming that NCNA, really cares on players oppinions*, Mistryl, plz sticky this one so it wont get lost in time and besides that, forums will not flood of messages of this kind.
its an issue that bothers lots of people, everyone for his own reasons.
and Spudnik, im asking this as a favor, plz dont rephrase people's post. they want to state something and you have no right interfering on their literary property as you like, especially in quoted messages, even if you address the so-called corrections. quote the message, and write your "corrections" below as it should be. tnx
Spud has a sharp mind (unlike some) and is able to cut to the core issues. He uses the post rephrasing to show logical flaws in the arguements of others which has the side effect of amusing us! He may have legal training, law schools (usually) teach people to think.
So as an offtopic here, this goes to show how excelling in school makes you better at virtually everything you do.
server transfers would be good. i wouldnt transfer but some people are bored of their server. they can be selective like in wow, you can only migrate to realms that aint full. so they could block migration to bartz/teon for example, and give "free" transfers to low pop servers.
Spud how about sticking to the actual point here, we're talking
about the differences between the NC US services and that of
NC Korea.
There are no technical reasons besides that of translations that
would stop NC US to provide us the same services as their mother
company in Korea does to their customer base.
All we are asking here is to receive equal service as that which is
provided in Korea.
since when are we treated with less respect or due-dilligence?
just because we dnt have the luxury of transferring servers or accounts? gender? name?
for goodness sakes!
luxuries are not something to be demanded. it is NOT necessary to switch servers for anyone in this game to have fun. nor is it necessary to change genders.
it only makes life easier. hence it is a luxury.
if the options exist for the same game we are playing in korea then we deserve the same options, a lot of our servers are in a bad state & some people would rather NCSoft salvage this game for the users they have left instead of just quitting as NCSoft seems to be pushing for.
Me & my clan are all waiting for another game because we lost faith that NCSoft will do anything to provide an enjoyable game experience for us, we're left on a half dead server & they wont provide very viable options that already exist for this game.
The NA community is getting the screw job from this company & i wont bother with them for the next game i choose to waste my time playing that's for sure. I know lots of people who feel the same, this is a fun game, but is completely lacking support & no matter how great of a game they make in the future i wont bother playing it because i know how horrendous the support will be, or maybe i wont even get 100% of the features that players will be enjoying in korea.
Good Lord, the LAST thing I ever want is a lvl 70 perma red plainswalker to be allowed to change servers. Talk about ganking newbies and the harm it would do to the game!
I think the post I am replying to is the strongest arguement I have ever seen AGAINST server transfers, regardless of what the words say.
server transfers would be good. i wouldnt transfer but some people are bored of their server. they can be selective like in wow, you can only migrate to realms that aint full. so they could block migration to bartz/teon for example, and give "free" transfers to low pop servers.
I've said it before and I'll say it again...
We have enough [Censored] on Lionna, we don't want another server's [Censored] too.
There are other services besides just server transfers :)
I personally server transfers would encourage a lot of people who leveled their characters up the wrong way and got caught to switch servers where no one knew them.
uh, how about account transfers?
my sister has her toon on my account, so that cuts into my playtime, i should reroll you say? TIME is a luxury, at which point, the game wouldn't be fun anymore. doesn't affect anyone else but the people who want to use the service, show me the big picture in that.
just because we dont have 100,000 people posting in this thread, doesnt mean the masses dont want these services, not everyone the plays L2 posts on the forums, ive been playing since prelude, and i hardly ever look at the forums
we get updated after korea for a reason. and not cause we dont get respect.
we have 1/10th the base market of korea. our events are flaccid and sparse for that reason. thusly the reason for lack of gms.
did you WANT a midaeval fantasy game with sportscar and make up ads? try anarchy online.
your ignorance exceeds your intelligence.
grasp a picture larger than your ego for a moment and realise who you are and where you belong.
if you think youre being treated with less respect than any korean or japanese or euro playing this game, you are arrogant as well as ignorant.
Spud, Looks you like you just got schooled by the facts in the lower post. Ewwww.
uh, how about account transfers?
my sister has her toon on my account, so that cuts into my playtime, i should reroll you say? TIME is a luxury, at which point, the game wouldn't be fun anymore. doesn't affect anyone else but the people who want to use the service, show me the big picture in that.
Problem here is that account transfers facilitate account and character sales.
Everything about this game facilitates account and character sales.
This will do no more and no less that that. Besides, there isn't a market for names like ggghhh in this game. I can not see how me transfering my toon to another server either enhances or disuades anyone from selling the toon. What it does do is allow this game NOT to go the way of Lin1 where there are 2 servers dying there and people are being forced to re-roll to the 3rd server. More and more, they say why should I re-roll. I woudl be better off in a new game or finding something else to do with my time all together.
We will fight for the future! >)
There will be more, and more, and more, and even more threads about server transfer, so u better start thinking about it>)
As I said in another thread, expect them mid-2008.
Besides, there isn't a market for names like ggghhh in this game.
Pre-leveled buff-bots, perhaps, but I was thinking more along the lines of retiring players selling off their uber-level/geared archers, necros and whatever to someone else without the messiness of dealing with changing the billing.
Isn't it that you can transfer toons only between your accounts, meaning under same PlayNC master account and/or billed by one CC or something like this? THen it won't be possible to transfer uber archer without billing hassle.
Isn't it that you can transfer toons only between your accounts, meaning under same PlayNC master account and/or billed by one CC or something like this? THen it won't be possible to transfer uber archer without billing hassle.
I seriously wish we had this.
I have a already made pp on my acc, but I want to switch it to my other (dormant) acc so I could lvl her up and actually use her.
and not waste money on GSAP's.
I just don't see why people have to argue so much agenst something that could get alot of people to return to the game.
Hell most of us are American's, and enjoy our freedom of choice. I'd like to be able to choose what server, sex, or name I want, or even what toons are on what acc. Just sometimes someone makes a name that sounds cool at the time, but finds out later on that that name wasn't all that its cracked up to be.
I know my CL would love acc transfer's. cause he has many toons spaced over 3 acc's and alot of those toons are on the wrong acc, so they don't get used.
did you WANT a midaeval fantasy game with sportscar and make up ads? try anarchy online.
your ignorance exceeds your intelligence.
arrogant as well as ignorant.
That really made me LoL. Isn't that everything Spud is? :D Smmmmmart..................Learn to spell medieval before you miss label a game under a genre.
Why do people feel the need to fight off server tranfers (not merges). People that don't want to transfer won't. If you want to stay with your friends then do it!
I'm just glad we have the game at all. If they added server transfers but only to low pop servers people would be complaining that they can't go to the populated server. So what would this do then? Thin out the servers so they all are light or if they did allow transfer to high pop servers then people that like there server will find out that it has become even more empty all of a sudden.
And for those that say "my sister plays on my account and we have to share" or "I have my healer on the same account as my main". Plan ahead much? When I got a second account it was to have a healer to go with my main account. How is this hard to screw up? How many hours of leveling do you do before you go "gee, maybe this will not work out down the road."
Anyway, like others have said, we need more people not a distribution of what we already have. Put that development money (translation time etc) into advertising. I see people on the WoW forums asking all the time "I'm bored of WoW, its poor PVP and how Blizz does things. Can someone recommend a better game?". There's a whole new generation of MMO gamers now that don't even know about L2.
did you WANT a midaeval fantasy game with sportscar and make up ads? try anarchy online.
your ignorance exceeds your intelligence.
arrogant as well as ignorant.
That really made me LoL. Isn't that everything Spud is? :D Smmmmmart..................Learn to spell medieval before you miss label a game under a genre.
Why do people feel the need to fight off server tranfers (not merges). People that don't want to transfer won't. If you want to stay with your friends then do it!
Scared of the possible competition?
spelling shmelling the point still stands.
how did i mislabel L2 as Medieval? i didnt. L2 is Medieval. hell, L2 is the Dark Ages.
If you want a medieval game with ads and sports cars try Anarchy Online.
How is anyone supposed to interpret that as being L2? Writing properly is your friend. Do not abuse it or it will abuse you back :( Sad panda out
lol just lol.
dear clueless: Anarchy online was made when MMO gaming was in its 1st generation. this makes it old. so old i referenced it as being Medieval. the game was set a long ways in the future - that said there were ads in recent years added to the game so that those who wished to try the game indefinitely could do so with the limitation that everywhere you go you were fed ads for everything from McD's to Barbie to Christmas ads.
Lineage2 might follow the same logic - thinking that making lvl 1-70 Free to play but adfeeding every 3 feet of the way might truly get good solid players in, but it would harm the ambiance of the game in the same fashion that McD's ads harmed Anarchy Online.
so, if you would like a medieval game with ads and sportscars, try a free to play game.
This Question is way curious. I guess its just because this game was first created in Korea. After translation and modifications it was brought to the US marked. But the Asian and US market are totally different. The Asien market loves toons with big eyes and a lot of pink and bonbon colors while the US market prefer other things. You can't just copy something 1:1 to another market. Just take a look at the car economy, cars which sell in the US market wouldn't mean to sell in Europe or Asia the same way. Anyway, even if you want to, you still have a whole bunch of work to to with translations. Does someone know how much Text is in this game, just remember all the Quest. This whole stuff is not done in just a week. I even work in a software company and I know that making an international product took years. That may be one reason why the US Lineage 2 is still a bit behind the Korean one. The market stuff another thing. You can't make 100% people happy, but you take a look what the most need and want and you will give it to them.
A server merge on the other hand is a hell of work, its not just copying player names, there are clans, subs, warehouses .. to much effort all in all!
I'm on my way would even like to see some things change, especialy the bot thing. But I'm pretty sure that this big bot problem don't exists on the Asian Servers because its a total different community, culture and playstile. At the Asian servers people would like to level their chars on their own instead of buy a power leveld one while the US server are much more filled with "I just want to take a look and play this game for 3 months and then quit of boredom" people that prefer to buy a bot leveld char .. they play it because they have the money to.
This does not mean in any way that all players are like that but if the whole server community would stay together and not tolerate bots or buy from them there would indeed less of them. All the bots are just a mirror of the community! That's why it is so difficult to fight them.
There are still a lot things that NC Soft could do better .. but as I remember what even changed at the NC support side and that they try to answer and improve their work on that leads me to the point that we are not lost at all on the US/European servers! It may just take longer till we get all the nice things the Asian market already have.
"why cant we have what korea has?"
my answer over and over is.... we dont live in korea
you can turn on you tv or go to the movies, read a magazine, listen to music...... and see the CRAP that america produces... we play this game for the atmosphere and that jus happens to come from korea
some of the services like server transfer would be abused in the US/euro market and are less likly to be in the asian market for the most part the korean players take thier gaming alot more seriously... they play the game to play the game... cheating to a huge degree like botting and buying are less likly to happen for the reason that it would take away from the games playability... purchasing items/gold is taboo but not really a big issue to them... alot of asian market games have the option to purchase items/gold designed into them so its not really uncommon
but the US/euro player thinks that pvp is the only thing this game has to offer even though it consist of <10% of the game time... the us/euro player wants everything already done for them so they can log in day 1 and start owning people in pvp and when they arent top dog anymore they jus quit cause they have really no time invested in the game
as $ goes 3 years of L2 @ $15 a month is about $600 after cost of the cd and sub... now all that money goes to NC
but if sombody buys a $600 toon and quits 2 months later NC only got $30 + the month it took a plvler to make the toon and sell it so $45.... it isnt in NCNAs best intrest to put in server transfers for us...
as of now the only thing keepina vast majority of NA players from buying toons is the fact that they are ridculed by the "legits" on the server they bought into... take that pitfall out of the issue and you have a bit of a problem... for players, for NC, for gaming morality in genral
if it wasnt so obvious that na/euro players abuse the system we hav in place now maybe we would see a few new features w/o everyone automatically thinking its gunna be abused
Make it a $50 service like Sony does, and only within your own accounts (same CC, same address, etc) and maybe then I'd agree to it.
Incidentally, Sony has a bot-free server. They call it an Exchange server. Kinda ironic to see how money-grubbing the bots are that they won't farm a server where its legal to RMT... as long as you RMT to the game owners.
Hey, I wouldn't mind my strider sporting the Pepsi logo in it's eyeballs. Instead of blinking those logos would roll. Naked DE chicks could sport the latest Victoria Secret fashions. You get the idea. Non-intrusive adverts can be done.
Now how many people bought REAL Tateossian jewelry because game jewels are named as such? Not me.
... if the whole server community would stay together and not tolerate bots or buy from them there would indeed less of them. All the bots are just a mirror of the community! That's why it is so difficult to fight them.
Such a great point! I have been thinking the same thing. Either we are outnumbered by the bots and cheaters, or we are just not taking the initiative to change things. However, we would need a new option implented in the game to allow private stores to ban specific players or even whole clans from accessing the store. L2 boasts having a deep, political side to it, so where are the trade politics? Because the stores are automated and players often absent, we would need a way to automatically deny trade priviledges to undesirable parties. (I am a new player so excuse me if this feature already exists).
just because we dont have 100,000 people posting in this thread, doesnt mean the masses dont want these services, not everyone the plays L2 posts on the forums, ive been playing since prelude, and i hardly ever look at the forums
Your premise is flawed.
Your basing your idea that people want these services but they just don't say anything on the official forums.
I present to you the inverse of your statement, and one that's more solid. Of the 29,461 members, a couple hundred DO forum. Of those couple hundred (23-27 people) support these ideas. This in no way implies "the masses"