Got both my skills yesterday. Was testing Mystic immunity and not that it prevets "buffed" person to use any buffskills like ud/ue/frenzy/guts/etcetc, it can be used only on party members so you cant use it as debuff (cuz its clearly a debuff), but it desont even makes you immune to cancel for that 30 secs so if you get Mystic immunity, someone cancels you, you cant rebuff yourself, wee.
80mil SP
I would like to ask NCsoft devs if they plan to completely revamp Mystic immunity and Spell turning because both prophet 79 lvl skills are worthless both cost 80mil SP, both dont deserve place on skill bars and both are total joke in comparison to WCs Interlude skills.
yea for 30 seconds you can;t be stunned silenced etc. Sounds really bad
the emphasis was on cancel.
do not forget how easy it is to wipe all buffs from your opponent. regardless of stun/silence etc. you can still die and can be without your lvl 80 1hr buff keeping buff.
make another thread for ST please, this is to show uselessness of Proph 79skills as best buffer we get 2 uselesss "debuffs" and wc gets another awesome buff and uber party summon
Got both my skills yesterday. Was testing Mystic immunity and not that it prevets "buffed" person to use any buffskills like ud/ue/frenzy/guts/etcetc, it can be used only on party members so you cant use it as debuff (cuz its clearly a debuff), but it desont even makes you immune to cancel for that 30 secs so if you get Mystic immunity, someone cancels you, you cant rebuff yourself, wee.
80mil SP
I would like to ask NCsoft devs if they plan to completely revamp Mystic immunity and Spell turning because both prophet 79 lvl skills are worthless both cost 80mil SP, both dont deserve place on skill bars and both are total joke in comparison to WCs Interlude skills.
Yet another wonderful implementation. Yes again I'm sure if the devs ever listened to us they would know about it. Well, that sucks, I guess you have to wait till kamael and hope that the koreans there complained loud enough and got it fixed/changed.
so you say that having 160 mil SP is worse than not having 160mil SP
pve/pvpwise is no difference having those 2 skills or not having...and you get 80lvl fusion skill and some lowbie skill
Basically you cast it on a party member like Berzerk or Holy weapon and it prevents any changes to your buffs/debuffs other than running out of time or being cancelled. This means you won't get paralyzed, slept, silenced, hexed, stunned, petrified, bled, poisoned, slowed, feared and vortexed while it is effective, but it also means you can't add any other buffs like Prophecies, and any normal buffs and maybe even the DoT effect of heals.
I can see a couple uses for this, cast it on a tank before a overlord casts zerk in a raid party. Minor use. Also if being attacked by a nuker you prevent any surrender, vortex, fear, anchor, silence [censored] from disabling you.
To me what I feel would have been a better 79 skill is a buff that essentially freezes the time you have left on the buffs while it is active, such as 2 minutes. This would increase the lasting rate of dances, songs and probably CoL and healing effects, prophecies last longer and well i guess it would be overpowered because Hero UD and zerk last longer too haha. Just my suggestion, but Mystic Immunity AT LEAST has a use. But I know Warcriers beat you in this regard, but look at the bright side, they lost CoV to Overlord.
Oh, well then yeah, that is a great boost when fighting a mage. Keep you from being surrendered, keeps you from losing your resist from that surrender, keeps vortex from hitting you, keeps you from getting slowed... very good.
It can be, yes... but what are the chances of it happening? Just like with all other buffs that can be cancelled off? I honestly don't see why you guys wanted to have it make you immune to cancel, there is already a cancel resist buff.
so you say that having 160 mil SP is worse than not having 160mil SP
pve/pvpwise is no difference having those 2 skills or not having...and you get 80lvl fusion skill and some lowbie skill
pretty much yes. the devs didnt add a skill to waste sp and thats a disadvantage. wheres the win button for ST's? i want a phys or magic silence. the two 78 active skills are far too situational and dont have much benefit to them(ToD requires 700+ hp to cast and below 75% hp....).
sorry to hijack but heirophants are doing well in L2 already. they need to fix other classes imo.
make another thread for ST please, this is to show uselessness of Proph 79skills as best buffer we get 2 uselesss "debuffs" and wc gets another awesome buff and uber party summon
What??? WC can summon a party elswhere????? When Wc become a summoner???? Please someone says me WHEN?? WTB party buffs.
make another thread for ST please, this is to show uselessness of Proph 79skills as best buffer we get 2 uselesss "debuffs" and wc gets another awesome buff and uber party summon
What??? WC can summon a party elswhere????? When Wc become a summoner???? Please someone says me WHEN?? WTB party buffs.
lvl 79 or 80, cant remember which
and it costs FOUR summon crystals, not 1
not sure what is so uber about it, except jealousy from a pp
(the description says it summons a party memeber, not that it summons your party; if it summoned your party id agree it was pretty stellar)
make another thread for ST please, this is to show uselessness of Proph 79skills as best buffer we get 2 uselesss "debuffs" and wc gets another awesome buff and uber party summon
What??? WC can summon a party elswhere????? When Wc become a summoner???? Please someone says me WHEN?? WTB party buffs.
Since korean devs play WCs obviously.
Its 78lvl skill and I am pretty sure it does summon whole group.
make another thread for ST please, this is to show uselessness of Proph 79skills as best buffer we get 2 uselesss "debuffs" and wc gets another awesome buff and uber party summon
What??? WC can summon a party elswhere????? When Wc become a summoner???? Please someone says me WHEN?? WTB party buffs.
lvl 79 or 80, cant remember which
and it costs FOUR summon crystals, not 1
not sure what is so uber about it, except jealousy from a pp
(the description says it summons a party memeber, not that it summons your party; if it summoned your party id agree it was pretty stellar)
Uhh, Chant of Gate from Warcrier summons your whole party to you. Best part is the party members don't need summoning crystals, the Warcrier only has the stock up on them. Say you werent registered for a siege, you could have a warcrier off grounds summoning the full party. Many times during a siege a party gets stranded and everyone is somewhere else. This is a chance to "regroup" at the cost of 200k for the Warcrier. Want to summon people to toi 13 for a Baium raid? The cost is two times less and 8x faster. Of course this skill is level 79 and not level 58 as the summoners is.
the summon pt skill, summons full pt cost 4 crys, 300 mp. Same cooldown as CoV
Mystic immunity could extremely useful at seiges. Immunity your bishop when the opposing team runs in for Hero fear. So that the bishop can either cleanse or mass cleanse their seige members
pp vs wc its like sws complaining about bd's. both are needed anyway.
mystic immunity sound like a cool skill and other classes got nothing at 79
That's not a fair comparison at all... With the exception of a party where people are dying left and right and need rebuffs, there is no party setup that is better off with a prophet over a wc at high levels. Taking both buffers in the same group as you do with bd/sws is a waste of a spot.
I believe the point of this thread is to point out that although prophets get skills 79+, they're pretty much not worth getting.
I think that if pp's want to complain they need to complain about the classes that meld with them.
Back in c3 Wc's weren't wanted especially. Thats becase the SE+ pp support combo was better than anything the WC+bishop could ever do. WC had lower vr, bishop couldn't recharge, most groups didn't need excessive heals and SE's heals were almost on par w/ bishops.
Then slowly over time SE's got more and more nerfed as the primary healer. They didn't get major heal, their reg heals now take a buffslot and can't recharge themselves now. now the WC+bishop combo is alot better than the SE+pp combo.
Some balancing might need to be done of pof and cov, then again there have been times when I much prefer pof over cov (becuase of the run speed).
I think the main issue isn't how well these classes are vs each other its how well they can combo with other people.
Got both my skills yesterday. Was testing Mystic immunity and not that it prevets "buffed" person to use any buffskills like ud/ue/frenzy/guts/etcetc, it can be used only on party members so you cant use it as debuff (cuz its clearly a debuff), but it desont even makes you immune to cancel for that 30 secs so if you get Mystic immunity, someone cancels you, you cant rebuff yourself, wee.
80mil SP
I would like to ask NCsoft devs if they plan to completely revamp Mystic immunity and Spell turning because both prophet 79 lvl skills are worthless both cost 80mil SP, both dont deserve place on skill bars and both are total joke in comparison to WCs Interlude skills.
cry more attention ....
this skill is very valueable in end game pvp, since u're a pathetic carebear it is obivious has no use for u, isn't it?
Do you realize that you cant use ally cleanse with mystic immunity on for example?
You cant get dances/songs, you cant use most melee bufflike skills (as I said, frenzy, ud, guts, ue, dagger 78lvl buffs)
So you will use it on healer, who should be far aways from front lines anyway so no debuffs etc...and the healer cant be saved with cellestial shield cuz you cant cast it on him. Reuse time is long so you will proly use it only once per fight. PvP nowadays is about dmg not about debuffs (except hero fear/fear).
Yes I am crying, No I am not carebear.
So teach me, when will you use it if its that "very valuable" in end game pvp.
You are right that for so much SP, the skill doesn't seem useful at this time... but that isn't because the skill is bad, it's because the game is broken. Take, for example, my skill arcane chaos. I got these numbers from someone, so I'm not sure if they are 100% right, but I think they are. Makes things cost 30% more mana, -24 mana a tick, and -30% cancel and debuff resist. So... good for classes that need mana to beat me, which are healers. And once I land it my all debuffs will work more through their arcane protection! Only problem is, it's a debuff! So I can't land it anyway! Does this sound like it being able to be cancelled off?
So when do I use this skill? I honestly don't... I can't think of any other time to use it (if someone does let me know!). I think your 79 skill at least has some use... only problem is you skills under 79 are much more useful. If they actually did things like, make some better debuffs, or make some of them we have now more useful, things might change.