ok planning on dual boxing best buffer for HE ?

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ok planning on dual boxing best buffer for HE ?

atm i plan 2 party with my dual boxer and let it lv with me
so what should i do ? get a healer (bishop?) or buffer? dont mean 2 be selfish but i just best buffs for my HE what class should i do ?
well prophet technically
so you mean go PP for heal ? dont go for buffs HE ?


maybe even a BD for buffs or is that looking 2 far ?
prophet is the best buffs an archer can get from one class
if you wanna be hardcore you want prophet/BD/SWS/kitty buffs but odds are you dont want to box all that

if you want the most bang for your buck from 1 buffer only prophet is the way to go, forget about ever useing it for lvling a mage alt and if you plan on playing a melee in the future a WCer would be better but the best buffer for an archer is a PP
no no HE is my main i dont care about lv of my mage expect for the buff skills and heals
Warcryer is much more fun to level then Prophet and buffs are about the same that you will ever need.
wich 1 has more hp ?
WCer
but the PP has alot more buffs that are useful for an archer
orvieta says something diff :/ and the diff of them in hp (aka armor) is pretty big wc can get heavy
ok i looked @ skills and what i want is
crit rate buff
accuracy buff
atk.speed buff
crit dmg buff

wc and pp have them and wc has better buff management 1 buff buffs all party members

so atm i think i go wc :)
If you don't mind getting the buffs (a lot) later WC is excellent. Focus 3 is not untill 68. But prophet has other nice buffs, such as bless the body (sorry "blessed body"...), zerk, holy weapon and resists.
Wind walk, berser, bless the body, bless the soul, Holy weapon from prophet.
From WC evasion, vampiric rage (if u lvl ur HE with dagger)

Battle heal > CoL too.
But be original and box WC.
hmm i just saw it didnt had a heal :P so i am not gonna anymore:P

PP ftw ^^
Resist unholy, Berserker Spirit and Holy Weapon are invaluable.

Only reason WC > PP is MP management (not an issue if you are a box, or rather, more of an issue for WC than PP if you are a box and only buffing yourself), VR, and CoV (unlikely your box will ever get that high).
I think for that class a PP will be the best one, get good buffs early than a WC in ur class u be running a lot if u want a toon to follow you at the same time you need ww can't get that in WC, WC good buffs will come later only, SE get some buffs too and recharges but the VR you don't really need it as an archer, so i think PP will be the best choice
pp are used for like duoing in a party they rock too but a WC is meant for a party do to his buff going on everyone in his party that why his mana for his buff are alot of mana but wc one for when he get lvl 78 COV IS AWSOME same for POF but i like pp better do to the blessed the body and zerk and all the others one
Another fake pp on the game. Welcome ghost player. Once nobody will actually play the buffer you can do a pp, it has a really good set of buffs for an archer. But, if someone will play it, you coud try think on wc, it's actually the best buffer around, but take some time to get some buffs.
Just go look on the library and see when each one get haste 2 (something you can't miss), dw and focus.

Another fake pp on the game. Welcome ghost player. Once nobody will actually play the buffer you can do a pp, it has a really good set of buffs for an archer.



Luckily, you play a PP as your main...
i am gonna just lv it 2 lv.20 then put it in party with my HE lv.43

it will suffer from exp penaltie but i dont really care ^^
whats the rule if its 10 lv apart from some1 else?
Not 10 lvl's is 20 lvl's up to that doing get party bonus...
There goes my intent to let someone try to play a diverse buffer as a WC...

Go PP like everyone else and buff in karmian with an Apprentice Staff...
If you get it to 24 you should be able to get the bonus. : )
LoL Orvieta i just think PP is better to that class in fact i have a SE, PP and a WC ;)
And all are great, just depend the char i use to dualbox them

LoL Orvieta i just think PP is better to that class in fact i have a SE, PP and a WC ;)
And all are great, just depend the char i use to dualbox them



I had my SE as main, got nerfed so bad in C5 and now in Interlude again (Invoc is nice though) that I rarely take her out anymore.

Certainly in FoD a PP will make the difference for an archer, aside of that an SE with a BTB staff and that BTS every HE gets gets you a long way as well.

I just love Warcryers...

There goes my intent to let someone try to play a diverse buffer as a WC...

Go PP like everyone else and buff in karmian with an Apprentice Staff...



Karmian? Screw that. Devotion all the way.
im not arguing that warcrier isnt a kickass buffer
my se is subbed wcer because for a hybrid summoner warcrier is the best buffer in game
i am however argueing that its not the best buffer for an archer
I'd get a Prophet to level an archer. BTB/BTS/Zerk/HW/Regeneration/ WIND WALK!. All nice things to have. You can even have your prophet root your mobs and just shoot the mobs.
One other consideration: A WC runs sloooowwwww. Probably not an ideal trait for pairing with an Archer, at least not for general open-field leveling.
i dont think wc are bad i just want buffs soon asap and some heals other wise i would have picked wc ^^

i am just gonna leave here in devotion and with a sol lol :P
Good choice.

Prophet. Period.
suxs that i get Death wisper @ lv.40 :<

Karmian? Screw that. Devotion all the way.



Be nice to your boxed buffers. Three of our four prophets, one of our two SE's and our EE are all in Blue Wolf robes. What else are you gonna spend that shiny gold on?

Be nice to them and they will be nice to you. ;)

PS. Unless you plan on tank archering you'll rarely get hit by a mob so healing is by the by. Go prophet just for the buffs and the timing of when it gets them.
Got Tallum Robes on mine now O_o (Borrowing my mains helmet ^^)
Working on DC sets for ours. Got one set already but the gf's dwarf is wearing it. :eek:
why would you put DC on ? :/ cant you use the money elsewhere?

i dont plan 2 let my pp fight just heal and if it gets aggro on him and he does thougd luck ^^ i got 20 rez scrolls on me:P
WCer can heal too
how much ? and @ what lv i looked for it (about 30sec::P)couldnt find it
Chant of Life, since level 20.
It's not a good emergency heal. It's a heal over time that basically increase HP regen for 15 sec or so.

Battle heal saves lives.
elixers save lives
if you need anything besides that you should prolly have a real healer in party

elixers save lives
if you need anything besides that you should prolly have a real healer in party


/agree
Battleheal is available more often than every five minutes, and makes for fairly decent HPS in an emergency.

Healers are for when you are expecting to get hit hard repeatedly, prophets are for when you anticipate that you might be.

why would you put DC on ? :/ cant you use the money elsewhere?

i dont plan 2 let my pp fight just heal and if it gets aggro on him and he does thougd luck ^^ i got 20 rez scrolls on me:P



At lower levels you'll want it to heal. After B grade, though, you'll want the PP strictly for buffs. You'll rarely get touched, and even when you do, if you're hunting in an area that drops pots, you'll always have a full hp bar anyway. Just keep a couple of QHP's/Elixirs in your inventory for emergencies.

And whatever you do, don't stop leveling the PP until you AT LEAST learn resist holy, unholy, and greater might. It seems like a long ways away, but it goes by quickly.
Things to consider with PP vs WC

Focus, crucial to archers comes at lvl3 @ lvl68 for a WC.
Holy Wpn, hunt undeads with this baby PP only (among WC and PP)
WW, Blesses, Resist

What makes WC so good is that it got all offensive buffs except Holy Wpn from a PP and adde on VR. This rocks for melee who doesnt wanna spam haste2 pots with SE (like me).
Prophet. I leveled my HE up to 77 with my 2nd account prophet on the same PC.

Most of the heals I get from the pots, that is if the mob has time to get to you and do enough damage...almost always if you have a multiple pull.

Occasionnaly, very rarely, will I switch to my prophet to heal after a realy nasty pull...5-7 level 73-75 mobs at once.
WCs lack zerk and root (which can be quite helpful to hunt multi-HP mobs) as well.

Battleheal is available more often than every five minutes, and makes for fairly decent HPS in an emergency.

Healers are for when you are expecting to get hit hard repeatedly, prophets are for when you anticipate that you might be.



/agreed sometimes i grind for 2 hours and then i almost die 2x in 7 min :/ i cant use elixers then so battle heal is a big +


why would you put DC on ? :/ cant you use the money elsewhere?

i dont plan 2 let my pp fight just heal and if it gets aggro on him and he does thougd luck ^^ i got 20 rez scrolls on me:P



At lower levels you'll want it to heal. After B grade, though, you'll want the PP strictly for buffs. You'll rarely get touched, and even when you do, if you're hunting in an area that drops pots, you'll always have a full hp bar anyway. Just keep a couple of QHP's/Elixirs in your inventory for emergencies.

And whatever you do, don't stop leveling the PP until you AT LEAST learn resist holy, unholy, and greater might. It seems like a long ways away, but it goes by quickly.




basicly what i am planning 2 do is use it for selling in Seal validation week (i sell ewc 690 they sell in 20 min :P 1 time in 4 min ^^ ) now i am gonna try sell bsoe brez ewc maybe ewb

and when its not validation week aka i cant go 2 mammon 2 get new ewc i iam gonna put it in party for my HE hes now 44 and buffer is 11 but she lves slowly but surely i dont feel like exp here non party i wanna lv 1 char thats my focus
dude you are too high lvl to have the thing in party
take some time off your main and go solo the thing trust me
get it within 19 lvls of your main and it'll lvl like crazy
i know i know but i really cant find it in my self 2 lv a diff char :< plus it has crap nukes

plus i made alt 1week ago for dawn lv.26 maybe going SPS some day but i sure as hell aint gonna lv it now :/ just wanna do B grade took me 2 weeks NG D and looks like now i do B in 1 week rofl :/

need 2 make 80 mill in 1 week now :P


need 2 make 80 mill in 1 week now :P


lol yeah
lvling fast is fun

i know i know but i really cant find it in my self 2 lv a diff char :< plus it has crap nukes



Maybe it's just me, but I like my PP with duals and either PL or BW Heavy. No, she doesn't level as quickly as a fighter, but it's a different change of pace.


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i know i know but i really cant find it in my self 2 lv a diff char :< plus it has crap nukes



Maybe it's just me, but I like my PP with duals and either PL or BW Heavy. No, she doesn't level as quickly as a fighter, but it's a different change of pace.


thats not how PP roll at NG
i know it hurts to lvl the thing solo man but if you want it as a duel box for your main its the smart thing to do



need 2 make 80 mill in 1 week now :P


lol yeah
lvling fast is fun



y it is :P only 2 realise that you need 2 wait another 2 weeks for your b grade :P
i know its smart i actually tried 2 do so after 5 min i thougd screw this il just put it in my party with my main :/

i really wanna siege @ retail never done that before i need b grade 2 even walk there :/ maybe i can kill some1 that whas nuked 2 1 hp hehe
Throw a little cash and get that prophet some decent nuking gear. You'll get it to 25 in minimal time (not even a day of play). It will benefit you in the long run.

PS. To answer your earlier question, I put my buff pets in DC coz it looks better. I can't afford full S grade for our two main toons so I get what I can for others. Plus I get to play different toons, e.g. recently used my BH to farm the parts for 20 sets of BO jewellery for our alts. We all get enjoyment in different ways from this game.......thank god. :p
LOL 20 sets :P well thats gonna take sometime :P

LOL 20 sets :P well thats gonna take sometime :P



At the rate Bo spoils, nothing more then 8h grind.


LOL 20 sets :P well thats gonna take sometime :P



At the rate Bo spoils, nothing more then 8h grind.



About right. Did that a little while ago anyhow. Got some spares as well for those up-and-coming B grade toons. ;)
ohw nice they sell nice 2 :) i just keep selling ewc for the momment ^^
If you dual box, you need to die... in RL
if you stopped playing l2 why bother posting youre "wisdom" on the forum especialy nothing you got nothing usefull 2 say
What I am saying is probably the most useful thing besides being a player based bot.
well i am glad your so smart
Don't mind Pirotesa, one of many bitter SEs replaced by buffboxes and convinced there was no way to avoid it - and of course there isn't, if you're holding a crystal staff or a SoES:BTB. :p
There is a way to avoid it, reroll, but why should that be done. I don't speak for myself at all as much so for players that enjoy being support classes. Dual boxing hurts them and in the end the entire game. Anyone that truly has known me ingame, and they are few, knows I'm not like any normal SE. But I strongly do my best to help players that truly enjoy being a support class, and not a FOTM. :mad:
there are more then enuff ppl that dont got a healer in catas so you dont have 2 reroll ^^ if you really try or else you can go sws or BD
I enjoy playing a support class, which is precisely why I dual box: I can give my clan two support classes at once in a party, both a healer and a buffer. Hell, if we are short on damage, I can call to a damagedealer instead while still offering my main's valueable buffs. I can slave someone from my second account or play them fully, however I chose.

Two-boxing is a choice for flexibility.

I am reliefed that we have dual boxers, because it means if I don't want to join a party I don't feel pressued to. It means if we want to put together a party, we don't have to rely on the presence of a live buffer any more than we have to rely on the presence of a live DD (yes, I box one), or on the presence of a live tank (a good healer and some VR can take care of that). It means I have the freedom of choice (just like any DD that dual boxes by the way) to pick a party at my leisure and convenience.
... ur totally right, enjoy a speedy end of game.
if you think with dual boxing will get you lv upped "fast"or "speedy" your drunk

lv does "not" go fast even with dual boxing period

i can only do 1 lv a day in 4x :/ and that will soon change when i hit 5x
omg... I can't believe you even said that...
Dual boxing isn't ending the game at all - maybe for you, but for most others, it makes the game with the current broken buff system more unbearable.

Dual boxing enables hunts that wouldn't exist without it, period. That is good for the game, not bad.
Pirotesa Said:
... ur totally right, enjoy a speedy end of game.
yup :)

if you think with dual boxing will get you lv upped "fast"or "speedy" your drunk

lv does "not" go fast even with dual boxing period

i can only do 1 lv a day in 4x :/ and that will soon change when i hit 5x



Umm, Slayer, not sure what you're hunting, but with OOP buffbot I get much faster XP than hunting without any buffs.

Sure, the grind will inevitably be reduced to a crawl once you get extremely high level, but even then, better to have buffs than to have none at all.
Boxing a buffer/healer really makes life easier. Never wait for a group, and you can fill multiple roles in a group :>

BTW, I did 8 levels on PS sub 40-48 in roughly 8-10 hours with OOP SE+PP+BD.. it's easy to get addicted! :o
[censored] :P that makes me a sad panda :< i worked so **** hard 2 grind from 8:00 2 22:00 to get 1 **** lv :<

when i was in a pole party some1 said y iwas (she was dorf with pole) lv.48 2day and now i am 52 i was omg-_-"
Well, poleparties can be extreme! With OOP support your leveling speed increase alot. And once you get more experience, where to level, how to level, etc etc it gets even better. HE's can XP extremely well with a Prophet OOP. I never regret making my PP a long time ago, though it takes some time to get it to 52 where it shines, 56 is even better.
ohw ok :)

If you dual box, you need to die... in RL



I sometimes quad-box, do I need to die more than once... in RL?

;)
Yes, full 4% death :D
rofl :P


If you dual box, you need to die... in RL



I sometimes quad-box, do I need to die more than once... in RL?

;) [/quote

Yes.

If you believe in being reincarnated, then a year after you become aware of your existence for the next 3 lives.
my record is 6-boxing, 2 se, pp, bd, warlock, archer. nice xp.
thats a pain 2 manage ;/
not if you bot
i thougd i would be nice and not say that :P
Hm I could run 3 clients on my PC, 2 on another older I have right here and if I break "usage of corporate assets" rule I could run one on laptop. That's 6 possible accounts. But I cannot imagine how to manage them, specially 2 minutes dances and such.
And thank you, I am good with mine 2, not to mention where would I get another accounts from (OK BF can log me 2 more but still ...)
rofl thats a lot of money every month :/ especially when you got 6 account

i think its sad that ppl max there creditcard for a game :/ just play harder with 2 accounts maybe 3 but tahts it (1 selling in giran)
I got two secondary accounts now, BD is the latest, and it's nice to have that option. Not really a hassle to invite and dance every two minutes. With a warlock it would be one more alt+tab and macro invite..