My clanny pms be this afternoon too tell me some terrible news.
She says: something terrible happend to me last night
I say: what happen?
She says: i ran into a pker
She says: and im really scared
I say: why what happen? (thinking the worst possible thoughts now)
She says: i killed the pker
i say:lol
She says: thats now what im scared he droped something
She says: the pker droped some items along with +4 kat kat duals. Which when i logged back were in my inventory.
i sad: lmao
Apperently the SR pker picked the wrong clanny to mess. She was a newly 40 lvl bd with shadow strombringer duals with comp armor set. She had her newly leveled se 40 with karm and an ng mage weapon.
The SR pker had an emi and not sure what armor type set up for she didnt bother to determine what it had.
She told me the SR came out of know where started to attack her se. lucky for her she was duo-boxing her bd near by and quickly engaged the pker. She told me she almost died seveal times if it wasnt for the combine heals of the se and seveal healing pots she surely would of died. She danced hex power struggle stung that SR. What help her was when the pker got more then what he could chew he started to run away so she quickly rooted him.
My question is her two low level 40 with ng and shadow weapons took out a pker who obiously was at least 6 or more levels higher then her, either SR didnt know what he was doing or she got extreamly lucky as hell.
I told her if he pm u demanding for those duals just ignore him u got them fair and square.
The irony was she was dead broke leveling in lower gear. Not exactly like hitting the lotter but im sure my clanny will beg to differ but a pretty nice story to share.
I had asked her it would of been really nice if she took a pickure of the dead pker and her inventory with message saying she picked up the duals would of been priceless.
Getting gear from a PKer is always very very nice. And yes if he PMed her I would be inclined to agree on the part of keeping the dropped gear.
PKers are a fact of L2 so we have to deal with them and therefor if a PKer dropped stuff he/she should deal with that too. The PKer should not complain about the loss. The sin-eater quest is there to avoid any loss of gear if you want to be a perma red but without a +5 or higher count. So the PKer was either lazy as hell to do the sin-eater quest or really not up to speed of how things can go wrong. As a perma-red you better have the necessities in gear on your toon only to avoid loss of additional gear.
On a darker thought:
You may have an eBayer as clanny too though. I could see the story as a way to cover up a bought item.
For now I will assume the first and not the second dark thought. I would say graaaaatz to her.
it might happen, i mean the chance of that might be like 1 in a billion, but hey :p
well, lets see what we have to work with here:
a) lvl 40 noob BD kills an SR
b) SR carying an Eminence bow is unable to kill a BD out of all possible classes
c) SR has more than 5 pk's
d) SR's gear is unaugmented
e) SR carries a Bow, but goes into the Melee range....
f) SR dies to lvl 40 nublet
g) SR drops +4 Top C duals (the very duals that BD drools over)
hmm, did I say 1 in a Billion? Maybe the chance of all that occuring might need to be raised to like 1 in a Trillion. but hey, might happen =)
b) SR carying an Eminence bow is unable to kill a BD out of all possible classes
Actually, that part of the story is fairly believable. Pretty much every of those lowbie-ganking PKers is a lousy PvPer, too. They're used to killing prey, not people who fight back.
She says: the pker droped some items along with +4 kat kat duals. Which when i logged back were in my inventory.
Just.. what? Logged back? She killed the pk without being ingame?
Also:
My question is her two low level 40 with ng and shadow weapons took out a pker who obiously was at least 6 or more levels higher then her, either SR didnt know what he was doing or she got extreamly lucky as hell.
How do you know the 'pk'(I don't believe there was any pk, mind you) was at LEAST 6 levels higher?
Sounds more like your friend made up a nice fairytale to explain her suddenly, miraculously acquired shining new top C duals.
b) SR carying an Eminence bow is unable to kill a BD out of all possible classes
Actually, that part of the story is fairly believable. Pretty much every of those lowbie-ganking PKers is a lousy PvPer, too. They're used to killing prey, not people who fight back.
Ya know its assumptions like this that make career reds like myself look bad. I'll challenge you and we will see who has the pvp skills. ;)
Now to the op....This story is made up. Your clanny is a liar and you will believe anything your told.
Its times like these I remember why I hate this **** game. Some of you people are so full of [censored]! ;)
It's not completely out of the question. I could see a lvl 40 BD fully buffed with a second box healer throwing a handful of heals easily taking out an SR that's also in C grade. Especially if the [censored] didn't kill the SE first.
It sounds feasible enough to me that I would not just call the person a liar. I'd probably keep an eye for all of the other signs of ebay, but I wouldn't condemn the person just over this.
It's probably worth noting that the SR may not have had buffs, where the BD at least had lvl 40 SE buffs. If the BD had empower also, that right there could easily make up for a 9 or 10 lvl difference. Plus say 3 or 4 heals... yup.. I could see the BD wining pretty handily.
She says: the pker droped some items along with +4 kat kat duals. Which when i logged back were in my inventory.
what else did he drop??
and i dont care if it is true or not...a LONG time ago i killed a Perm red when they were non stop killing newbs on TI and got a Top C drop.....sls+2 w/Crit dmg if memory serves right.......so i dont doubt the stroy one bit...also my cuz carrys a set of duals with is SR just for DD purposes when he runs outa mana, he doesnt like the dagger cause he uses the skills with it and wastes mana so to avoid that he just uses duals...he is all Pve so its obviousloy not a PvP thing....my guesss was that the SR just got drunk or ****** and decided to go on a killing spree< the drunk thing is valid, an old clannie got [censored] faced one night and didnt remember any thing....we were all chatting with him and almost all the would say was random profanity and f u guys......the next day he logged in to see his SE deep crimson on windmill hill...aparently he had a rough night....>
Well if he is on a different server then i wont bother. No point in rolling to another server in a game I hardly play anymore just to show a dwarf that I really do know how to pvp. Im tired of this stupid belief that reds are 12 year old kids with nothing better to do then pk people lower than them. I pk people higher than me while Im wearing no grade gear. ;)
Wow! did I miss a skill. My 43 BD can't "root" anyone. How did this lvl 40 do it?
My son plays and at I believe 55 his BD just got the equivalent of 'shackle' (though he might have had access earlier and I just saw it recently).
I haven't looked ahead much at the BD skill list so I'm not an expert on them (mine is my 4th highest toon and not at all played frequently).
When I first read the account I was wondering how the rooting was done by the BD? Did I misunderstand that? Did the buff pet root?
As for "honorable pkers".....the one or two in existence since the beginning of the game may be allowed to make comments--the rest of you griefing liars just need to give it a rest.
No red has ever taken an even shot for a pk. Soon as you see a close match you run and hide like whimps. As for "I'm in NG"....so was the guy a couple months ago at lvl 59 outside of Dion on Lionna. Needless to say he didn't have much trouble with the D and C-graders passing through there....lol.
Honorable pkers! Ha! Please tell me where you're going to be carrying that off so I can bring a toon to watch. I have at least one toon on every server and would LOVE to watch you all killing the toons higher than you just once.
She told me the SR came out of know where started to attack her se. lucky for her she was duo-boxing her bd near by and quickly engaged the pker. She told me she almost died seveal times if it wasnt for the combine heals of the se and seveal healing pots she surely would of died.
You would have to be a MAD 2-boxer to 2-box so well as to actually kill a SR with a BD while rooting/healing/etc. with an SE. I'm not saying she cannot do it, I'm just saying that for a new player, she has to be a MMO 2-boxing vet in some other game (Like EQ1) to be able to two box that well. You cannot two box that well with 2 clients on one computer, unless you use third-party programs - and even with 2 computers you need a very good setup to be able to react so quickly. Archers even at those levels hit hard enough to kill an SE in a few shots, and stun shot will not let her heal. She'd be dead before the stun was off.
Yes, F1-F2-whatever, but you have to switch targets, etc.
If the archer could not kill a C grade SE when the BD wasn't even BY THE SE when the SE got attacked then it seems a bit unbelievable. Seriously, I had a D grade dwarf griefer kill my 56 SE fast as hell on Talking Island the other day - and his DPS sucks compared to an Archer - not to mention an archer can hit you and leave you wondering where he's hitting u from.
Even a rooted archer would easily be able to kill you while he pops HP/CP pots. A SR would kite you. Have fun getting in root range. By the time you SE has him rooted and you are switching to the BD to go kill him, your SE is dead and your BD is halfway there. That's if the root lands, and it doesn't land that often even on players with +3 Elven Jewels (so cheap that even a perma-red can afford to use them).
LOL @ him dropping top C duals.
I spent 3 hours in Giran selling my soul to get a low A grade weapon and C graders get top grade OE non-augmented duals drops off perma red toons who can't kill a boxxed SE.
You can kill an SE healing itself, a boxxed SE is a free PvP/PK/reputation point.
Mad 2-Bot skills FTW. I bet she's ambidextrous too?
Wow! did I miss a skill. My 43 BD can't "root" anyone. How did this lvl 40 do it?
My son plays and at I believe 55 his BD just got the equivalent of 'shackle' (though he might have had access earlier and I just saw it recently).
I haven't looked ahead much at the BD skill list so I'm not an expert on them (mine is my 4th highest toon and not at all played frequently).
When I first read the account I was wondering how the rooting was done by the BD? Did I misunderstand that? Did the buff pet root?
As for "honorable pkers".....the one or two in existence since the beginning of the game may be allowed to make comments--the rest of you griefing liars just need to give it a rest.
No red has ever taken an even shot for a pk. Soon as you see a close match you run and hide like whimps. As for "I'm in NG"....so was the guy a couple months ago at lvl 59 outside of Dion on Lionna. Needless to say he didn't have much trouble with the D and C-graders passing through there....lol.
Honorable pkers! Ha! Please tell me where you're going to be carrying that off so I can bring a toon to watch. I have at least one toon on every server and would LOVE to watch you all killing the toons higher than you just once.
Man you dont even know that the SE can root. Until you get educated on the game then you wouldnt understand what a pk'er does anyway. I have ran the whole map on my red. Your friends that hang around Gludio dont count as player killers.
Wow! did I miss a skill. My 43 BD can't "root" anyone. How did this lvl 40 do it?
My son plays and at I believe 55 his BD just got the equivalent of 'shackle' (though he might have had access earlier and I just saw it recently).
I haven't looked ahead much at the BD skill list so I'm not an expert on them (mine is my 4th highest toon and not at all played frequently).
When I first read the account I was wondering how the rooting was done by the BD? Did I misunderstand that? Did the buff pet root?
As for "honorable pkers".....the one or two in existence since the beginning of the game may be allowed to make comments--the rest of you griefing liars just need to give it a rest.
No red has ever taken an even shot for a pk. Soon as you see a close match you run and hide like whimps. As for "I'm in NG"....so was the guy a couple months ago at lvl 59 outside of Dion on Lionna. Needless to say he didn't have much trouble with the D and C-graders passing through there....lol.
Honorable pkers! Ha! Please tell me where you're going to be carrying that off so I can bring a toon to watch. I have at least one toon on every server and would LOVE to watch you all killing the toons higher than you just once.
Man you dont even know that the SE can root. Until you get educated on the game then you wouldnt understand what a pk'er does anyway. I have ran the whole map on my red. Your friends that hang around Gludio dont count as player killers.
SE root has a crappy land rate. If the player is running around with OE duals and emi bow non-augmented you can at least give him some +3 Elven Jewels, since he obviously doesn't know what he's doing.
I tested SE root on my SE @ level 54 and gave her my +10 Homu/Greater Empower 3 for the M.Atk. I couldn't even root a d grade dwarf to wind strike him down, without jewels (< 100 M.Def?).
But then again, so many things in this game are "chance" skills.
Sure its land rate may not be good. But the whole point of that guys argument was that "BD's cant root!" Lol. The dual boxed SE was mentioned in the very first post.
Root assist was one of first macros I made when I started to use 2 accounts. It's very simple:
/useshortcut 2 2
/target insert_bd_name
/assist
/useskill root
then
/useshortcut 2 2
/target insert_bd_name
/useskill Battle Heal
(repeat if needed)
And I did not even had 2 computers, just switching alt-tab and hitting F keys. It's much much easier with 2 computers.
One more thing: are you sure it was SR? It could had been dagger class or even SwS running with bow. That would also explain duals in inventory and unability to kill Cgrade SE in robes.
Sure its land rate may not be good. But the whole point of that guys argument was that "BD's cant root!" Lol. The dual boxed SE was mentioned in the very first post.
I still want to know how she can two box so well. If a flash of splendor agros my SE, she will get 3 shot 80% of the time before I see her getting hit - even when in group, since I am usually killing mobs when this happens.
Since the BD was "somewhere near the SE" I am assuming the BD was killing mobs when the SE was attacked - which means the archer should have killed the SE before the BD got to the archer. The archer can do this with duals, a dagger, or a bow. SEs die that fast.
C grade SE heals cannot keep up with the DPS of an archer using a top C Bow/Dagger. And when the SE drops the BD drops soon after.
You would have to be ambidextrous to kill the SR and still end up with both your boxes alive. BD is not a Nuker with Fear/Anchor, and Arrest comes at late B Grade.
One more thing: are you sure it was SR? It could had been dagger class or even SwS running with bow. That would also explain duals in inventory and unability to kill Cgrade SE in robes.
A C grade dagger would kill a C Grade SE faster than a C grade archer. He obviously had no problem getting in melee range. I dunno how a C grade BD would stand to a C grade dagger, I just know they can chew through you HP before they even touch your CP, possibly 1 shot you with a crit.
yup.. rooting my target and targetting me and healing me were 2 of the first macros I ever made for my SE.. and I was a noob when I made them. (these 2 are almost a must for PvE imo)
SE root land rate is actually pretty good, so I have no doubt that root could land.
The story is quite plausible, I definitely wouldn't call the person a liar just based on that alone.
On top of all that, if the SE and BD had buffs and the SR did not.. then that's just icing on the cake.
good point.. who knows, maybe it wasn't an SR.. hell could have been a TK for all we know.. lmao..
now a perma red TK.. that takes PvP skill. Perma red archer or dagger.. that's weaksauce right there. All you PKers, if you wanna brag, lvl up something that takes some skill. lol
its really np to have a
/target ur DD
/assist /windshackle/root/whatever macro...
still have one of this on my SE from "old" days of franz at beastfarm, with a crappy geared 55er dorf to stay alive.
and alt+tab "press heal" alt+tab dont need a second...
Well if he is on a different server then i wont bother.
Teon. Says so below my picture, even.
No point in rolling to another server in a game I hardly play anymore just to show a dwarf that I really do know how to pvp. Im tired of this stupid belief that reds are 12 year old kids with nothing better to do then pk people lower than them. I pk people higher than me while Im wearing no grade gear. ;)
I kill PKers higher than me while being no-grade (http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=766512). I don't doubt you might be the exception, but the rule is: typical perma-reds have bad equipment, worse tactics and no idea how to react when someone actually fights back.
Thats worked out oddly in her favor. What are the odds that a level 40 bd (with an se) just happened to take out a pker who had +4 duals...an SR no less. Hmmm. :)
It does seem a bit convenient that the pker dropped top C duals to a class that uses duals. Just watch out if you find out that she kills another SR and it drops a full plate set and top C jewels.
It does seem a bit convenient that the pker dropped top C duals to a class that uses duals. Just watch out if you find out that she kills another SR and it drops a full plate set and top C jewels.
I was going to say a +10 Tsu-SLS and BW Heavy set in a couple of weeks. :D
Everything about this battle seems suspicious, but oh well. For all we know, a fellow clannie staged the pvp in order to boost her confidence. Screen prints would be nice.
As for "I'm in NG"....so was the guy a couple months ago at lvl 59 outside of Dion on Lionna. Needless to say he didn't have much trouble with the D and C-graders passing through there....lol.
Honorable pkers! Ha! Please tell me where you're going to be carrying that off so I can bring a toon to watch. I have at least one toon on every server and would LOVE to watch you all killing the toons higher than you just once.
first off...,worste thing to ever say> take a chill pill dude...your comeing off as a peaved 10 year old who got Pked a little to much when they were Ng...so relax..and just casue YOU say there are no honorabl,e pkers or pkers with skill doesnt mean that its true, in fact it just shows that your a moron...the fact is that i ahve been on and of makeing human nukers since i started this game..gave em Top Ng gear and pvp/pked alot of ppl on fair stndards...when i can afford to loose the gear to death i will buy it and make a toon to have some fun..i have been killed probably more then i have killed and learned how to play the class <still NG> very well in the process...not a lvl 14 toon with lvl 50 skills..just a lvl 14 nuker in top NG gear haveing fun...
I don't doubt you might be the exception, but the rule is: typical perma-reds have bad equipment, worse tactics and no idea how to react when someone actually fights back.
same goes for you....just casue yall had bad wxperience dont throw the good or "honorable" pkers like my self in with the lot cause some idiot had alot of fun with u or a friend....
and like i said..i do fight fair..i dont always use shot if i notice they are not and i wont be a D bag if i die or kill some one..they usualy talk trash..i simply remind them that Pk is a aprt of the game and they should try it...i dont grief or any thing cause that is what gives going chaotic a bad name...
but the rule is: typical perma-reds have bad equipment, worse tactics and no idea how to react when someone actually fights back.
There is a PKer on kain (haven't seen around much lately) named Xike that is 7x, permared, archer (I think HE but not sure), has very good gear (at one point I'm pretty sure he had a red bop), very good support (like PP, BD, etc), and is good. I got nailed several times and it was truly pathetic on my part not even able to click him to target a shot before I was dead :(
First of all, as my clanny being an ebayer is highly unlikey. She loves the grind as she been playing now for almost 4 months. An ebayer doesnt level her 3rd toon pass 40 and decide to buy adena till then. I can see an ebayer doing that on the first toon but reroling 3 more times is not an ebayer in my book.
She has 2 clients cause she loves the game so much she made a 2nd client to buff her "se". she was 2 computers a labtop and a desk top so both clients are on sperate cpu's. Yes she slower then most players she dont powerlevel which makes her more belevable an ebayer is one that jumps levels in weeks and need gear money fast thas not her she grinds slowly and levels casually.
As for the pker for what info i got from her and her story:
I dont know really what level the SR was it could of been a 40 level snot or a 50+ with no armor or no jewels she never specified what armor the SR was wearing or none at all for that fact.
If the SR was a true perma red perhaps he was striped with ng armor and jewels or maybe no jewels which would indicate why some of the powerbreak hex and root might of landed.
I got 3 clients myself and i 3 box on one cpu in windows mode. I split the screen so i can see all three boxes and let me tell u i can easly buff attack and regen in the raids. i do with my clannys and friends i run a tank dagger nuker or se oop regening in a raid. And i dont have a problem unless the server giving out massive lag. If i can do it so can she if she tells me she was kicking that pkers as.s with her bd and her se was support healing. I truely belive her since she duo her se and bd in raids aswell.
Some things to consider:
The pk'er might of not been a true perma red pker but a drunk or fed up the gamer with with 5 or more pks and just picked the wrong person to kill. Which to me explains the droped gear. Most pkers dont drop anything cause they either run augments on thre weapons or they smart enough not to get killed with valuable equiptment.
Shortly after she killed the pker she quickly logged off in fear of the pker return not before soeing out to town. When she logged in later that day she was so scared that she killed the pker that she check her inventory and to her amazment she did infact picked up those duals. She told me that the pker keep IM her to give the duals back. I told her to block him and keep the duals.
So fact:
the SR was carrying +4 kat duals and droped them.
my clanny can and sucessfully duo-box her se and bd with 2 cpu's.
40 BD had full comp armor w/storm storm shadow duals full top lux jewels
40 SE had full karm mage set with knight shiled w/top ng weapon full lux shop top jewels.
Both SE and BD had full SE buffs and bd 40 level dances.
not fact or unknown:
The true level of the SR is still unknowed (i speculated at least 6 or more levels).
The amror and jewels the SR is still unknowned.
If the SR was fully buffed.
The full damage the SR done. (Normally u can tell what level the SR is by the amount of damage his attacks do. She never gave me that info.)
What other item(s) he might of droped. (she told me items)
I hope this clears up the story as being more credible.
FYI this happen in EG 2 nights ago on bartz shortly after killing 2 raid bosses in that area.
I would like to highlight something.
Yes, ive read the story and since he/she attacked her first, then i have no comment about that.
BUT! just because im red doesnt have to mean ive done a bad thing right? I could also been killing bots and that is imho a VERY admirable thing to do, therefor im kinda anti the ideah of "if-you-are-red-you-are-dead" thing.
No need to say that a pker will try to waste you, but if he/she isnt trying to do anything else then "washing" away karma.....wouldnt the right thing to do, atleast be to ask him/her first why the "red-ness", instead of just fire/hit away?
Yes, ive read the story and since he/she attacked her first, then i have no comment about that.
BUT! just because im red doesnt have to mean ive done a bad thing right? I could also been killing bots and that is imho a VERY admirable thing to do, therefor im kinda anti the ideah of "if-you-are-red-you-are-dead" thing.
No need to say that a pker will try to waste you, but if he/she isnt trying to do anything else then "washing" away karma.....wouldnt the right thing to do, atleast be to ask him/her first why the "red-ness", instead of just fire/hit away?
Reds are mobs with a (traditionally) higher drop-rate.
You have assumptions based upon what you know of the person. You not being there means you are taking her word and hoping its true. I used to play on Bartz (deactivated account yesterday) and I've never seen a red that ******ed.
You have as much fact on the situation as anyone else who was not there when it happened. Not attacking you or her, just saying, "ya never know".
Ok The following is a post of her victorious encounter with the pker word for word.
The killing blow. 5/23/2007 5:29 PM
Posts: 1
This week I was trying to level xxSExxx and xxBDxx in Proving Grounds because I needed a little more xp
When I was going through xxSExx inventory to see how many healing pots and SS I had left, I heard xxBDxx get hit. I jumped from fear. It was a Silver Ranger. He had hit me with Stun shot. I emediately thought to myself "Do I run or fight. If I run who gets sacrificed?" Offcourse I couldnt do that to my Lovely xxSExx or wonderful xxBDxx so I stayed. I didnt move xxBDxx hoping that they would think im stunned but I wasn't. I would like to thank xxBDxx but it was because of all the buffs she had on her from kind helpful people. The SR got closer and started on another volley. I quickly hit him with sting, followed by hex and power break. He hit me again and turned. Sting to the back and he was bleeding. I moved to xxSExx and rooted him before he could get away. Back to xxBDXX, I ran up to him cast freezing strike and hit him with sting again. My health was low but I healed with xxSExx and greater healing pots. I was frantic, no scared, but I wasn't going to take it. If I was going to be PK'ed I was going to make him work for it. We went back and forth with bow and swords. I had little health left and I couldn't get back to xxSExx in time to help out. So I used my secret weapon. I begged with words but I really was buying time. I used that lovely skill ultimate defense. He thought he could finish me off so he stayed. Last healing pot and it was a regular one but I had no time to complain. He stayed to kill me or so he thought. He stunned xxSExx. Thats when it happened. The killing blow.
He dropped items and I didn't bother looking. I did like any loot picker-upper does. I held the F4 key and ran. He began to PM me. I couldn't understand some of it but some I got. He kept saying "gemme ma kats". I replied with "what the hell are you saying you little punk". No answer. When I got back to town I checked xxBDxx's inventory. No surprise I saw some matts and thats all. So I switched to xxSExx and went to buy more healing pots. Thats when I noticed it. I couldn't believe my eyes. For a second there I thought I was seeing things. I hit TAB a few times just to see if maybe it was a glitch. No glitch, it was real. A beautiful +4 Kat duals sat in my inventory. I struck gold or did I. I was still shaky from the fight. This was my first real PvP fight not a PK run down and I was victorious. If that was not enough I got a trophy to prove my conquest. I was now the hunter and not the prey. The hide I skinned was a pair of swords I really needed. This was a reminder on why I like this game. Something I had lost for awhile in all the grind.
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I omited using her real char names with xxBDxx and xxSExx to protect her.
If the SR was a true perma red perhaps he was striped with ng armor and jewels or maybe no jewels which would indicate why some of the powerbreak hex and root might of landed.
Last time I checked......, my SR had the following Skill:
Spirit Barrier lvl 1, available at lvl 40
this skill gives a considerable boost in M.deff, is a self buff, buffs for 20 minutes. available to buff and rebuff as long as one has MP. :)
on top of that, these are some(not all, but some) of following skills are available to a lvl 40 SR:
Spirit Barrier lvl 1, available at lvl 40,
Defense Aurora lvl 1, available at lvl 5
Attack Aurora lvl 1, available at lvl 10
Defense Aurora lvl 2, available at lvl 20
Attack Aurora lvl 2, available at lvl 28
Ultimate Evasion lvl 1, available at lvl 28
(just in case your target gets in melee range)
Rapid Shot lvl 1, available at lvl 32
Stun Shot lvl 1-3, available at lvl 35
Stun shot lvl 4-6, available at lv 40
Double Shot lvl 1-3, available at lvl 40
So with all those, even with a NG grade bow, shots would hurt. If say the OP was an AW and had descent evasion is one thing, but 2 Low CON DE's unable to die by a lvl 40 archer with Top C bow is................ insert your own word here =)
With details in such short supply; should we always assume one is guilty until proven innocent? There wont be enough info to convince everyone either way, so I suggest everyone lay off the accusations and just accept it for what it is..... a story. True or not it is merely a story.
and if you check my posts, I've never accused anyone....nor do i really give a dam =)
I'm just pointing out the rather obvious flaws that I see in the story. hell even in the 1st or 2nd post, i said it's possible and gave it some hypothetical statistical Odd's on this :p
do lots of people play the lottery in any given country? sure.
is it possible for just 1 person out of the whole country to hit the jackpot, sure.
the odds of being the jackpot winner you (Populater) for is very slim to none.......but not impossible
which by the way, the following excerpt is from the now Revised story that i'm confused myself.
I heard xxBDxx get hit
check
....... I jumped from fear. It was a Silver Ranger. He had hit me with Stun shot.................
1 stun shot, check
I didnt move xxBDxx hoping that they would think im stunned but I wasn't.............
can anyone explain to me here why, how, the sr would NOT know if his target was stunned or erm it was 'faking'?
The SR got closer and started on another volley.........
now it's quite possible that the SR was a total ****** with Down Syndrome and all that good stuff, but after SR established the maximum range of his shots, why would he run up closer to the prey and only then shot again? so again, either the SR had Down Syndrome, or he was smoking something real good, or as the story was revised, it may be up for revision #3? :p
ps: i really don't care about the actual truth (if the OP ebayed, or hit the jackpot, or SR being totaly worthless, etc), but this thread is fairly entertaining and heck, i'm stuck at work so i'm rather bored right now =)
Even though I replyed to your screen name, the accusing was done by many others.
Statistics are fine and dandy, but I have to say accusing anyone of breaking the rules of the game on official forums is against the rules as well. All this is wayyyy offtopic from what I assume is the original intent of the thread, and so we are all off base and not within forum guidelines.
I would like to thank xxBDxx but it was because of all the buffs she had on her from kind helpful people.
Something even missed in her inital story. She had OOP buffs not just her 40 level se buffs. Se was hunting in EG so there are always high level buffers in the cross roads buffing for recs or money.
I had little health left and I couldn't get back to xxSExx in time to help out. So I used my secret weapon. I begged with words but I really was buying time.
She basically out wit that SR. Beggeing for her life, turnning attention away from her dying BD, buying her time to do the final blow. This is somewhat creative in my book.
I used that lovely skill ultimate defense. He thought he could finish me off so he stayed.
Ok, now i know it was a ******ed SR. Who stays and delivers blows melee with duals when ur fighting with a bd with its ud activated? But your forgetting the SR was rooted so he couldnt go anywhere. Not to mention the SR was bleeding for how long or how many times is still somewhat unclear.
Either the SR was drunk high most possibley or utterly redtarted. The fact that he never used his ev or maybe he did earlyer thats why there was a struggle or perhaps he used it and it was not fully charged so he went in half prepaired.
Reguardless if you beleve its 100 percent credible. The SR was using unorthadox fighting methods bow+duals, who does that?
If only the actual pker to come and confirm his side of this amazing story. But what are the chances of that ever happening.
Ok The following is a post of her victorious encounter with the pker word for word. *blah, blah too long of a post to quote*
Still skeptical as to the convenience of it all. After all, its just her post with noone to vouch as a witness to the ordeal. Backing her up as a clanmate is respectible, but I would keep an eye open for any other extremely good luck with no witnesses.
Well if she turn out the next week with some +7 tsu sls then and maybe only then will i start to reconsider. But +4 kats... plz. Not going start questining my clannys now or ever untill they crossed me. And trust me i been crossed severl times.
The trick is not to let those few jade ur opinons. I sence a lot of negativity in these boards prob cause most of guys know the game well maybe too well for there own good. IMO veternas lose touch of the joy the personallity the honest and urnest and goodnest of those that grind and play the game well.
Or maybe,
Just the sudden lack of GM CM envolement that when u hear heroic fantastic stories such as these. One automatically assumses oh ebayer bot etc...
This is not a video or taped leeroy jenkins exploy. It was a fast adrenaline pumping moment where every second counted. She decided to fight and not flight. I call her a hero, her ordeal even legendary. +4 kat duals omg is the holy grail for a noob bd. Something prob a new player with no love of the grind would willingly ebay in a hartbeat.
can anyone explain to me here why, how, the sr would NOT know if his target was stunned or erm it was 'faking'?
If you leave player names on, (white name above the head) it can cover up the 'stun sparkles' pretty well. Especially if you are at a little distance.
everyone plays differently then. when I used my SR, I'd make sure I know if the stun landed or not.
then again, some people pay no attention, then do something stupid, like complain that they just bought bone helms instead of a/g helms or something ;)
can anyone explain to me here why, how, the sr would NOT know if his target was stunned or erm it was 'faking'?
If you leave player names on, (white name above the head) it can cover up the 'stun sparkles' pretty well. Especially if you are at a little distance.
She did have the name lady as a title over her white name dont know if that helps distort the stun affect. Plus hunting in eg with trees hills and water might also distort the stun affect.
From what i can conclude is the pker engaged her BD w/stun then moved on to finish the SE. Its obious the SE is a bigger threat the fact he chose to pick the bd first was the first of seveal mistakes.
Yes, ive read the story and since he/she attacked her first, then i have no comment about that.
BUT! just because im red doesnt have to mean ive done a bad thing right? I could also been killing bots and that is imho a VERY admirable thing to do, therefor im kinda anti the ideah of "if-you-are-red-you-are-dead" thing.
No need to say that a pker will try to waste you, but if he/she isnt trying to do anything else then "washing" away karma.....wouldnt the right thing to do, atleast be to ask him/her first why the "red-ness", instead of just fire/hit away?
Reds are mobs with a (traditionally) higher drop-rate.
I was refeering to when you pk someone and go red.
You would have to be a MAD 2-boxer to 2-box so well as to actually kill a SR with a BD while rooting/healing/etc. with an SE. I'm not saying she cannot do it, I'm just saying that for a new player, she has to be a MMO 2-boxing vet in some other game (Like EQ1) to be able to two box that well. You cannot two box that well with 2 clients on one computer, unless you use third-party programs - and even with 2 computers you need a very good setup to be able to react so quickly.
Sorry but that's just rubbish. I always box my healers with whichever character I happen to be playing. I've only ever played L2 (about 18 months now). It's bloody easy to react between the two if you know how to play the two characters. All I need is to have either macros or my bars configured on my healer to look after my fighter when I switch screens and set my comp in windows mode. If I position the two so I can see the CP/HP/MP bar of the buffer and I listen to the game I can hear and see my healer if they are in any trouble. Sometimes they do die (usually only if I've taken them somewhere with lots of aggro) but most of the time it's easy.
Well if she turns out the next week with some +7 Tsu*Sls, then and maybe only then, I will start to reconsider. But +4 Kat*Kat... plz. Not going start questioning my clannies now or ever untill they crossed me. And trust me i been crossed several times.
The trick is not to let those few jade ur opinons. I sense a lot of negativity in these boards prob cause most of guys know the game well maybe too well for there own good. IMO, veterans lose touch with the joy and personallity the honest, urnest, and best of those that grind and play the game well.
Or maybe,
With the sudden lack of GM CM envolvement, when u hear heroic fantastic stories such as these; one automatically assumes "oh ebayer, bot, etc"...
This is not a video or taped Leeroy Jenkins exploy. It was a fast adrenaline pumping moment where every second counted. She decided to fight and not flee. I call her a hero; her ordeal even legendary. +4 kat duals OMG is the holy grail for a noob BD. Something prob a new player with no love of the grind would willingly eBay in a heartbeat.
Clan Leaders should have better trained communications skills, but whatever - since I was one of the ones who questioned it, it seems to hit home.
Are you aware that it cost < 20USD to eBay top Cg? You probably are - rhetorical question. You also know that the grind is alot more enjoyable when you have top gear, right? Sorry, another rhetorical question... I do. Cause I didn't have top D/C/B Grade equipment until I got to level 54/55. All my gear was borrowed. I couldn't even afford a Karmian or Demon Robe set. I borrowed from friends/clannie; just returned the Karmian last night, actually).
I'm not saying you should not stick up for your clannie, or label her an eBayer. People here just found the story to be highly amusing, and for the most part, miraculous. If she hit the jack pot, oh well. Even she said in her supposed forum post that those were the duals that she needed so badly.
The hide I skinned was a pair of swords I really needed.
I'll just stop here and continue to laugh. This thread is a joke, and the incident is fabricated - or a joke made up by the OP AFAIC.
You would have to be a MAD 2-boxer to 2-box so well as to actually kill a SR with a BD while rooting/healing/etc. with an SE. I'm not saying she cannot do it, I'm just saying that for a new player, she has to be a MMO 2-boxing vet in some other game (Like EQ1) to be able to two box that well. You cannot two box that well with 2 clients on one computer, unless you use third-party programs - and even with 2 computers you need a very good setup to be able to react so quickly.
Sorry but that's just rubbish. I always box my healers with whichever character I happen to be playing. I've only ever played L2 (about 18 months now). It's bloody easy to react between the two if you know how to play the two characters. All I need is to have either macros or my bars configured on my healer to look after my fighter when I switch screens and set my comp in windows mode. If I position the two so I can see the CP/HP/MP bar of the buffer and I listen to the game I can hear and see my healer if they are in any trouble. Sometimes they do die (usually only if I've taken them somewhere with lots of aggro) but most of the time it's easy.
Vent + two computers next to each other blasting boring L2 game music != a good combination. It is much easier to look at the party window to see when someone gets hit.
But it doesn't matter. Cause this is obviously the only person who has had to fight red archers in top grade gear with unaugmented weapons and > 5 PKs since the introduction of Sin Eater and later Interlude.
And the post have been edited in the past 24 hours, so I don't know what to believe anymore.
I love how the first act of many forum-go'ers is to flame and insist that the subject of the story is actually an ebayer, and a liar.
I think that shows what we see going on day to day, in game. Sad.
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if the person got the duals...grats to them...who the heck cares if the story is correct or a fabrication...god forbid people in this wold ahve a little faith in some one and trust them to be honest...if they are not then they will get theirs eventualy...but we, as people, need to learn to just trust one another at our workd and leave it at that.
I'll just stop here and continue to laugh. This thread is a joke, and the incident is fabricated - or a joke made up by the OP AFAIC.
And you just sound to me like some proud ironical idiot :( Relax a bit boi, why you have to dig everybody's thinking and accuse everybody of everything? Imagine the stressed amazed person discovering C duals in inventory, sharing the story and being stomped underground just because everything bad from game got into your mind and you do not see anything positive anywhere... just sad what happened to many people here.
You must be the type who goes to cinema and angrily comments on everything that is shown in movie. I would not want to sit next to you TBH.
I believe what OP wrote - it could be unlikely, but NOT impossible. Unless the girl appears with +7 B duals all of a sudden next week as OP said.
Hell would you believe my happy story that I sold all 8k fruits 2 days in a row and not being accused as botter? Is it unlikely? Yes. And impossible ... ?
My clanny pms be this afternoon too tell me some terrible news.
She says: something terrible happend to me last night
I say: what happen?
She says: i ran into a pker
She says: and im really scared
I say: why what happen? (thinking the worst possible thoughts now)
She says: i killed the pker
i say:lol
She says: thats now what im scared he droped something
She says: the pker droped some items along with +4 kat kat duals. Which when i logged back were in my inventory.
i sad: lmao
She is a "noob" that 2-boxes...of course it's a cover for a money-buy...come on dude....she boxes to get ahead- she buys to the same effect.