i'm looking for create my second char which of the above would you recoment and for what reasons,for the PVE part i have an OOP SE.
do you mean a subclass character? if yes then what is your original race?
also what level is your SE?
if you are creating a brand new toon from scratch, then i'd say both classes, a glad and a destroyer are fun in their own individual ways. both have advantages and disadvantages, both will lvl fast if you atleast have VR3 from your SE. ofcourse the destroyer is the fastest leveling class in pve, gets most weapon masteries in game (sword/blunt/pole/2handed).
glads are also fun as they get way more skills than a destroyer, you rely more on your specials. the destroyer relies more on its raw power and high HP. destroyers are a force to reckon with once they drop to 30% HP, due to their zealot/frenzy/rage skills, a destroyer can pretty much take on a bunch of yellow/pink mobs alone, hence good times when in a cata/necro, if you like doing AoE, go destroyer (glads are good in poling too but their pole masteries end at lvl8 or something).
depends on what you like to have fun with. glads, great specials, great skills, regular swings do low dmg, but have high atk speed so it evens out.
Go destroyer, and Tyrants out of the question if you have gladiator in your mind cause gladi got everything tyrant does and more (heavy armor masteries, aoe skills and slightly faster run speed) and for PvE on a gladdi - picture countless nights sitting in a cata room hitting anything that spawns..for hours..not to exciting? AoE seems a bit mroe exciting (destroyer)..but then if you want pure pve and no pvp (destroyer good at both..beats anything at hand to hand combat..some nukers..but archers in a non-closed in area is +1 pvp point for the archer) you could go warlord..easy to aoe with aggression, some aoe skills, and faster run speed.
Go destroyer, and Tyrants out of the question if you have gladiator in your mind cause gladi got everything tyrant does and more (heavy armor masteries, aoe skills and slightly faster run speed) and for PvE on a gladdi
ummmmm......are you saying that glads run faster than tyrants?? The only thing there you listed that tyrants don't have is heavy armor masteries. But with the currect totums running your p.def can be almost as high and your evasion is higher than a gald. Also tyrants get 2 good aoe skills.
Go destroyer, and Tyrants out of the question if you have gladiator in your mind cause gladi got everything tyrant does and more (heavy armor masteries, aoe skills and slightly faster run speed) and for PvE on a gladdi
ummmmm......are you saying that glads run faster than tyrants?? The only thing there you listed that tyrants don't have is heavy armor masteries. But with the currect totums running your p.def can be almost as high and your evasion is higher than a gald. Also tyrants get 2 good aoe skills.
and they get to run faster than a glad also.. sure sonic move will burst fully buffed glad with +4 dex to above 220 runspeed, but with totems tyrants can have a constant runspeed over 200 and only having to redo the totem every 2 mins.. glads sonic move lasts 15 sec and takes longer to reload. Other than totems and mob weaknesses tyrants and glads skills are very very similar, except for TSS, thats where tyrants have punch of doom instead, but hurricane assault and the aoeskills are the same as glads double sonic slashes and aoeskills or very close to it. Oh and tyrants start to learn their sonic charges much sooner than a gladdie. pre 40 compared to glads after 40.
(glads are good in poling too but their pole masteries end at lvl8 or something).
actually the glads get their last polemastery and skills at 36. They stem from the same warriorbranch as a Warlord and up to 40 they get the exact same skills ^^
I have recently Subbed Destroyer. I pained over the same question. My main is a nuker and I wanted a melee toon too. I have had a tyrant alt and it was WAYY to expensive in SS to lvl. Fist weps have the same -50% crit rate that blunts have, so you beat things down but don't get the crits so you have to settle just for beating it down. Glads get a nice Crit rate and heavy armor, TSS is an uber skill too, but in PVP 1V1 a destroyer would and does kill glads.
I am SO happy with my Destroyer that I plan on going Titan before I go Storm Screamer. when I frenzy with VR I quickly refill my HP. There is also battleroar that give a HP boost once you frenzy/zealot. So it goes like this: HP 30% frenzy.zealot.Battle roar, rage. KILL EVERYTHING for 2 mins I clear double rooms in catas that are blood red to me when I do this.
ALSO if this is gonna be your new toon I suggest getting into a clan that needs academy members. Giving points is always good and the Clan Oath armor is more than sufficient for D grade
Go destroyer, and Tyrants out of the question if you have gladiator in your mind cause gladi got everything tyrant does and more (heavy armor masteries, aoe skills and slightly faster run speed)
Right.. except it's the other way around, the Tyrant has more tricks (cripple, break slow/root, faster in every way) and is a bit harder to play well though. Also nothing outdamages a Tyrant 68+ at 30% HP, not even archers. Problem is staying at that % :p
I have recently Subbed Destroyer. I pained over the same question. My main is a nuker and I wanted a melee toon too. I have had a tyrant alt and it was WAYY to expensive in SS to lvl. Fist weps have the same -50% crit rate that blunts have, so you beat things down but don't get the crits so you have to settle just for beating it down. Glads get a nice Crit rate and heavy armor, TSS is an uber skill too, but in PVP 1V1 a destroyer would and does kill glads.
I am SO happy with my Destroyer that I plan on going Titan before I go Storm Screamer. when I frenzy with VR I quickly refill my HP. There is also battleroar that give a HP boost once you frenzy/zealot. So it goes like this: HP 30% frenzy.zealot.Battle roar, rage. KILL EVERYTHING for 2 mins I clear double rooms in catas that are blood red to me when I do this.
ALSO if this is gonna be your new toon I suggest getting into a clan that needs academy members. Giving points is always good and the Clan Oath armor is more than sufficient for D grade
Fen
Yep, the only hope i have against a frenzying destro is to bust sonic move and hope i can stay out of your range until all those 30% skills wear off >.< destros hurt like HELL lol. If i'm alive afterwards though i might have a chance ^^ never gotten that far though, lol, i react too slow >.<
FYI the only time a tyrant is going to run faster than a gladiator is at 30% hp.
And a glad does not need +dex to have over 220 run spd. also, with the appropriate atk spd, i believe sonic move refreshes in under 30 secs.
Finally, tyrants are not faster in every way, since gladiator skills refresh faster. . . .yes, even with your amazing atk spd.
ps. if you're just doing a skill count (which seems a bit pointless to me) glads have more than tyrants too.
yeah they do, atleast after we get duelist spirit, and thatone i can keep up running almost constantly.. with zerk2 and haste2 it has like 6 secs cooldown once the selfbuff has run out. However i've never had sonic move refresh that fast, but the only buffs i've had to affect its refreshspeed is zerk and haste2, none of the nice prophecies or anything so with those it might be different, i dont know
With Song of Renewal, COV, and Haste2/Zerk2, the recharge time is quick as all get out. Plus, if you throw a SwS in party, with song of wind, zerk2, ww2, and Sonic Move, my run speed is 253, no dex tats. Yum yum