What is the better class to kill fast and run?

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What is the better class to login, seek enemies, kill fast and run/bsoe?
I will sub-class and wanna payback all deaths i got with my Tanker.
I have all the killers names at my notepad and i will seek him forever :)
Well, it's not Orc. As "bsoe" is not honorable....

Well, it's not Orc. As "bsoe" is not honorable....


And die easly as tanker is?

What is the better class to login, seek enemies, kill fast and bsoe?
I will sub-class and wanna payback all deaths i got with my Tanker.
I have all the killers names at my notepad and i will seek him forever :)



Some type of archer. I would suggest Silver Ranger but if you are using a BSOE then it really doesn't matter I suppose.
It really depends..

An archer can kill fast with the right buffs and gear.
Daggers don't even need gear.
Necros.. they're just nasty.
Nukers aren't bad either.

Especially at high level, 78+ most DD classes can gank pretty well. Element of surprise is always the biggest advantage though..

Else, just roll an archer/dagger/nuker and go get hero, then Hero UD all day long.. EASY PIECY!!!! :p
You definitely want a class that can either stun, anchor, or insta-kill. That more or less means tyrants, daggers, archers, or necros. Its too easy to BSOE from a nuker, glad, or summoner. Almost all of our ganking deaths are due to a necro or hawkeye.
Most if not all hit and run (or bsoe) pkers have been silver rangers. At least all the ones that pk'd me back in the day were. (sawa, Jesimiel, etc)
Archers, I wouldn't do Necro as a PK toon. SR doesn't even need BSOE, they can just run away - they're fast enough. Daggers can possibly 1 shot people without touching their CP and are fast as hell.
Orcs? destro can kill small party before they target him.
SR for sure.
Is a Destroyer a good class in pvp for fast kill?
A Destroyer can solo?
He use Heavy armor and can do aoe well?
I am a SK and i have the heavy set.
I will only need the two hand sword.
If you want to deliver deaths against people you're at war against, necro is probably your best bet. You have roughly 20% chance of anchor landing, which means 20% chance your opponent won't be able to bsoe even if they want to.

Hawkeye would be an other great option. It may not run as fast as a SR, but at least it can kill most of it's opponents before the stun ends, so these have maybe like 30% chance of stun, or 30% chance of killing your opponent with 0% chance of bsoe. Since stun shot can be used on anyone, this is great for untagged ennemies or ennemies who hide in neutral clans (although a great way to make their clans not neutral anymore).

edit: If you want a true pk character (perma-red), then SR is definitely a great option.

Is a Destroyer a good class in pvp for fast kill?
A Destroyer can solo?
He use Heavy armor and can do aoe well?
I am a SK and i have the heavy set.
I will only need the two hand sword.



no
I hear dwarfs pwn.
Is Phantom Ranger a good class?
How is it in pvp against others archers/dagger/nukers classes?
Well the problem with the phantom ranger is the normal weakness of all dark elven classes. Low HP, and low con leading to easier possibility of a mishap with your targets either having a stun shot character nearby or just being able to get a lucky shot off with enough damage to scare you away.

But like others have said your best bet for a pk toon is going to be one of the archers. This is due to the range of archers and their speed. Granted a dagger can get an insta-kill shot in but has to get in melee range to do it. If that shot fails the dagger could be in big trouble from his target. Not to mention, since you have to get that close you lose some of that element of surprise since they could see you just before you strike. The archers usually aren't seen until that first stun shot hits someone. Then people start the "[Censored]?! Where is he?!" panic to find and kill the archer. If your target turns out to have more backup or just be more then you thought they would be then you have a much better chance of running away and not getting caught so you can try again later.

I wouldn't suggest a nuker as a hit-and-run pker because of all of the newer buffs to almost negate most nukers attacks added to the lack of run speed, pdef, con, and hp of nukers. This makes them easier to fight back against. For a nuker if you attack and suddenly realize that your attacks are next to worthless against your target you better pray you have a bsoe on your hot bar because chances are you're not outrunning them and most likely won't fight your way through it either. Of course you could get lucky and be able to kill your target in 1 - 3 hits, but that's taking a bigger chance then most pkers are willing to do.

What is the better class to login, seek enemies, kill fast and run/bsoe?
I will sub-class and wanna payback all deaths i got with my Tanker.
I have all the killers names at my notepad and i will seek him forever :)



nice, go th or pw, even if they don't flag you can still train them. a real trouble maker class FUN +++ forget about archers unless you have a bd/sws behind you
summoners, you just sit over a tree and send your summon kill whatever you want.
LOL sr's are gimp u all are complete newbs

HE and PR are by far the best
a TH or a HE might be good with dash, they run fast as hell, but only for a limited amount of time (30secs i think) but that is more than enought to run away from someone.

LOL sr's are gimp u all are complete newbs

HE and PR are by far the best



Well, there was a time that every pk'er was a SR.

I don't recall the time where all the Pk'ers were HE's.

Though I know that HE's, when fully buffed are pretty brutal.

Things change I suppose.

Do you think that if there were no BSOE's that HE's and PR's would still be first choice or have things changed so much that regardless, they are the only choice?

Well the problem with the phantom ranger is the normal weakness of all dark elven classes. Low HP, and low con leading to easier possibility of a mishap with your targets either having a stun shot character nearby or just being able to get a lucky shot off with enough damage to scare you away.

But like others have said your best bet for a pk toon is going to be one of the archers. This is due to the range of archers and their speed. Granted a dagger can get an insta-kill shot in but has to get in melee range to do it. If that shot fails the dagger could be in big trouble from his target. Not to mention, since you have to get that close you lose some of that element of surprise since they could see you just before you strike. The archers usually aren't seen until that first stun shot hits someone. Then people start the "[Censored]?! Where is he?!" panic to find and kill the archer. If your target turns out to have more backup or just be more then you thought they would be then you have a much better chance of running away and not getting caught so you can try again later.

I wouldn't suggest a nuker as a hit-and-run pker because of all of the newer buffs to almost negate most nukers attacks added to the lack of run speed, pdef, con, and hp of nukers. This makes them easier to fight back against. For a nuker if you attack and suddenly realize that your attacks are next to worthless against your target you better pray you have a bsoe on your hot bar because chances are you're not outrunning them and most likely won't fight your way through it either. Of course you could get lucky and be able to kill your target in 1 - 3 hits, but that's taking a bigger chance then most pkers are willing to do.



LOL sr's are gimp u all are complete newbs

HE and PR are by far the best



Well, there was a time that every pk'er was a SR.

I don't recall the time where all the Pk'ers were HE's.

Though I know that HE's, when fully buffed are pretty brutal.

Things change I suppose.

Do you think that if there were no BSOE's that HE's and PR's would still be first choice or have things changed so much that regardless, they are the only choice?



yes cos there will always be PRING

oh and hawkeyes/pr 1 shot casters and 2 shot other archers unless if its hero group vs hero group which good luck gettin even numbers.

Ps. never gonna be no bsoes get used to it

HE/PR > SR

What is the better class to login, seek enemies, kill fast and run/bsoe?
I will sub-class and wanna payback all deaths i got with my Tanker.
I have all the killers names at my notepad and i will seek him forever :)



You're a punk in the making. What difference does it make which PvP punk class you play?

Play an archer like every other griefer punk in the game. No one cares.

One thing---1 through 40 on my server? Be nice or i'll just serially kill your punk butt.....over and over on my server.

after that we'll have to see, punk wanna-be....

All archers are whimps................
the real hardcore pvp points go to SE's and Dwarves. if you can pvp as either of these classes, you get props. all others /next. we have seen this 100000006980 times already and there is nothing new here.


One thing---1 through 40 on my server? Be nice or i'll just serially kill your punk butt.....over and over on my server.





lol.. best one yet! :D
Someone sounds a little buttsore from pkers. If you would have read the OP then you would see how funny your post sounds. He is making the pker as his sub....... aka already lvl 40...... to get revenge on those that pked him in the past. In other words you should be looking up to him for his plan since you obviously hate pkers on your server.
th, login find enemy , dash + run to him +backstab +sometimes 2 more blows -> say gf /bsoe



LOL sr's are gimp u all are complete newbs

HE and PR are by far the best



Well, there was a time that every pk'er was a SR.

I don't recall the time where all the Pk'ers were HE's.

Though I know that HE's, when fully buffed are pretty brutal.

Things change I suppose.

Do you think that if there were no BSOE's that HE's and PR's would still be first choice or have things changed so much that regardless, they are the only choice?



yes cos there will always be PRING

oh and hawkeyes/pr 1 shot casters and 2 shot other archers unless if its hero group vs hero group which good luck gettin even numbers.

Ps. never gonna be no bsoes get used to it

HE/PR > SR


did you ever meet Evilseed? or better yet, have you ever played a SR?
no i dont play your server and no im prob too high looking at your levels, id prob 1 shot him

Sr's are bad and yes ive played one, thats why im a hawkeye instead on my 78 sub
i guess i'll enlighten you :p evilseed was a red SR that killed sooo many people that he turned white (some kinda bug)

SRs are NOT gimp despite what any of your hate filled posts might say (seriously, every post of yours is reeking of anger)
Sr's are gimp - compared to to the other archer classes


my 1500 pk score char turned white, because i gave him the Z sword and dropped it and u turn white :P
Scabies, who I'm pretty sure is an SR is still on Kain as a perma red in A grade... and that one has been around for ages.

Scabies, who I'm pretty sure is an SR is still on Kain as a perma red in A grade... and that one has been around for ages.



Well, that's why I wonder if something has changed along the way.

I only remember SR's being PK'ers. Especially EvilSeed.
I can't think of any other class being as famous for it anyway. All the big ones I've died to over time were SR's. Two were daggers but that was lol sleep/trance - run and one sps and necro that were just simply way over my level.

And the point here of course, when we say "pk" is that we are assuming it's a level 40 (for example) going to mow down level 10's. You don't need to be the ELITE class of l2 to do this.

I can't think of any other class being as famous for it anyway. All the big ones I've died to over time were SR's. Two were daggers but that was lol sleep/trance - run and one sps and necro that were just simply way over my level.

And the point here of course, when we say "pk" is that we are assuming it's a level 40 (for example) going to mow down level 10's. You don't need to be the ELITE class of l2 to do this.



I've only ever been PKed by archers, and 4 out of 5 times, it was an SR.

And as far as 1v1 PVP goes, I've only had archers, daggers and mages try to initiate it, but usually only when they know that they are a higher level than the toon that I'm playing, or have some other advantage.

What is the better class to login, seek enemies, kill fast and run/bsoe?




A dagger class is your best option by far for this style of play, silent move/ fake death allows you to scout for your enemies regardless of the amount of mobs in the way between you and them (this can be a big issue) ....... then ambush/kill them and still be able to escape the hoard of left-over mobs that will inevitably get involved vs both sides of the fight.

On top of that you get the high DPS needed for ganking, and fast run speed to escape.

......in open ground/open wars an archer/necro works just as well, but the majority of the time for ganking, the ppl you want to kill will be hiding away in the back of a cata or such , and a lack of silent move and fake death will make any it very difficult to first of all get to them , or secondly to get away alive from the left over mobs/players afterwards.
Daggers are only going to work vs non ranged classes, you try that with a caster or archer you're going to be sprouting arrows/fireballs before you even get close.


What is the better class to login, seek enemies, kill fast and run/bsoe?
I will sub-class and wanna payback all deaths i got with my Tanker.
I have all the killers names at my notepad and i will seek him forever :)



Ok. I will find you and hope you like :)

You're a punk in the making. What difference does it make which PvP punk class you play?

Play an archer like every other griefer punk in the game. No one cares.

One thing---1 through 40 on my server? Be nice or i'll just serially kill your punk butt.....over and over on my server.

after that we'll have to see, punk wanna-be....

All archers are whimps................

Hey. I dont want kill low levels or anybody.
I wanna revenger against who pked me :)
Your thinking back to c2 and c3 or before, how many hawkeyes did you know?

I knew maby 1-2? and they were not that great back then, they got better as time went on, HE's have been the best since about c2-c3 but none were ever high enough and didnt catch up, 90% of archers were sr's up till c2. Now what is it 50-60% hawkeyes? the tables have turned.


Whoever said daggers are the best, go quit l2 now.

Scabies, who I'm pretty sure is an SR is still on Kain as a perma red in A grade... and that one has been around for ages.



Uhhh... Yes, I'm still around, over 2 1/2 years permared. However, I am most certainly NOT a SR... never was, never will be.

Dark elves are much more sinister, not to mention attractive. :D



Oh yeah, to answer the original post... if you really have to ask which character class will best suit your style of play as a PK, then you probably aren't ready to actually BE a PK.

You're a punk in the making. What difference does it make which PvP punk class you play?

Play an archer like every other griefer punk in the game. No one cares.

One thing---1 through 40 on my server? Be nice or i'll just serially kill your punk butt.....over and over on my server.

after that we'll have to see, punk wanna-be....

All archers are whimps................




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Ah, was thinking of the others then, umm sawa and jesimiel. You killed me once, but I didn't actually see you do it ;)
Doesn't matter if SR is the best for what he wants, SK is his main class so he can't sub an SR anyway :P