Hello all...i have made one WarSmith lvl 58 already in only a few weeks...i would like someone who had experience or knowledge of this character to give me some tips about warsmith...The tips i want to know are
a)xp areas from 58-62 that i warsmith can easily xp without risk of easy death
b)some tips about craft system..what/how to craft to have some easy profit etc...plz help me with this subject..
c)i will lvl up a damage deeler later so i would like to ask until what lvl u should lvl up the warsmith..is 62 good enough?or i should lvl up more to have a better earn of money..?
So as can see i had 3 questions..i hope to get answers soon thanks u for ur time :)
Hello all...i have made one WarSmith lvl 58 already in only a few weeks...i would like someone who had experience or knowledge of this character to give me some tips about warsmith...The tips i want to know are
a)xp areas from 58-62 that i warsmith can easily xp without risk of easy death
b)some tips about craft system..what/how to craft to have some easy profit etc...plz help me with this subject..
c)i will lvl up a damage deeler later so i would like to ask until what lvl u should lvl up the warsmith..is 62 good enough?or i should lvl up more to have a better earn of money..?
So as can see i had 3 questions..i hope to get answers soon thanks u for ur time :)
How on earth have you reached lvl58 without knowing your own job, your main skill, crafting?!?!?! This is the only way of living for an arti!
You can xp in lots of places, Forsaken Plains is one of them but usually you carry blunt weapons so go against undead in Fields of Massacre or so...
Thats why I was laughing.. you dont "quickly level a warsmith to 58" without first learning how to earn your way there. Thats in the market, crafting, and in the process knowing what area's are best to xp at and how to do so in those spots. The whole post is so wrong it is not even funny.
Thats why I was laughing.. you dont "quickly level a warsmith to 58" without first learning how to earn your way there. Thats in the market, crafting, and in the process knowing what area's are best to xp at and how to do so in those spots. The whole post is so wrong it is not even funny.
Maybe I don't have the sense of humor that you guys have, or maybe I'm just not thinking of myself as better than other people that ask for information. It seems we have so much of that on these forums. It doesn't take long in any given post, just read it and within a few replies you will find the flame coming from some idiot that gives absolutely no constructive response even though he claims to be knowledgable in whatever was in question in the original post.
As far as this guy, I think it's totally feasable. Of course you Naysayers will imply that the account was bought/ebayed. Let's take a look at his questions:
Hello all...i have made one WarSmith lvl 58 already in only a few weeks...i would like someone who had experience or knowledge of this character to give me some tips about warsmith...The tips i want to know are
a)xp areas from 58-62 that i warsmith can easily xp without risk of easy death
Here he is asking for FUTURE leveling areas. So he is looking to you experienced goobers to help him out. This is no indication that the account was ebayed. Just help the guy out here and tell him where he should go next.
b)some tips about craft system..what/how to craft to have some easy profit etc...plz help me with this subject..
I can relate to this question. I personally have a 40 something WS and don't necessarily know the BEST items to craft for profit. I know how, just not necessarily WHAT. Take into consideration the language, and just maybe he is asking the same thing.
c)i will lvl up a damage deeler later so i would like to ask until what lvl u should lvl up the warsmith..is 62 good enough?or i should lvl up more to have a better earn of money..?
Simple enough here. "I don't plan to play a WS forever, I want to be a DD, so how far should I take my WS and still be able to make a profit?"
One wonders why you would need advice like that......
Anyway knowledge is power so i suggest you read up on your class first as I think that will produce the answers you seek.
WOW! Now there's a team player for ya! So, you are saying you have never asked a friend, clanny, or fellow player for information about anything? Gratz to you if you can read about any class and have a complete understanding of it just by reading the description and skill list.
Is it so hard to accept that people are really looking for information here and not the bs flames that come from the self appointed high and mighty that we seem to have plenty of here? I certainly get tired of the flames.
Well Bloodstryke1 i never assumed the account was bought or ebayed, I just think it is sily (no offence) to level a character and not knowing some basics. This also goes for other classes also, I have a friend that went to lvl66 in 2months and he did not knew that GHP are cheaply craftable by everybody...
The essence of the warsmith is the crafting and my little dwarf started learning what to craft, where (for shops) and when (for levels) from her 20s. She has not made much but she earns her living...
OMG GUYS! i have made a post to get some help and the ONLY think u say is "laugh" "idiot" etc...lol...when i was asking about crafting i dont mean that i dont know about it you clever people...there are some items that craft cost is sooo little and sell value is good enough..THAT I WAS MEANING WHEN I SAID HELP ME WITH SOME CRAFT ADVICES...but the only think u want to say is to blame somebody...omg..
58 on is tough to say, since my warsmith is only 59 :) working him up slowly towards 62. I think for me 62 is where I will stop leveling him. At this point he will be able to craft S grade shot, since this isn't my main character, but a support for my main character, I think this is far enough.
I mainly leave him running over night in craft shop crafting shot, arrows and some other things thrown in there whenever it looks good. He makes enough money over night to supply my main character with shot, and himself when I need to level him. Not a huge profit but enough to keep me going.
To level him 58 to 59 and 3/4 the way through 59 I've been pulling trains in apostate. For me it is fun and I have been getting a lot of aa this way. Just stick to the light blue 4x mobs and it is easy leveling, you will need vr or a good healer to survive though :) For fun I sometimes summon a big boom and put it where I'm pulling my train too and then start hitting and then blow th big boom when everything is gathered right on top of it, and with all the light blue 4x mobs it takes off a good bit of their health.
OMG GUYS! i have made a post to get some help and the ONLY think u say is "laugh" "idiot" etc...lol...when i was asking about crafting i dont mean that i dont know about it you clever people...there are some items that craft cost is sooo little and sell value is good enough..THAT I WAS MEANING WHEN I SAID HELP ME WITH SOME CRAFT ADVICES...but the only think u want to say is to blame somebody...omg..
L58 warsmith in a few weeks, and your post count is only 6?
Honest question (or not) with that combination you were just asking for the hecklers to step up. (And even handed them their first round of ammunition.)
Honestly, the only 'consistent' money maker for a WS will be shots. And the margin on those can be fairly thin most the time. Everything else (Mostly B grade and higher) is either very slow (1 every x days/weeks) or buying/gathering the materials is harder than just deleveling the alt for more cash.
Get a 2nd account, level a BH (to 58 in a few weeks LOL) and then feed the WS with mats from the BH including receipes and then switch back and forth. At 58 I was using by BH for mats and my WS shots and B Armor and Weapons.
IMHO $$ doesn't happen till you reach B grade (lvl 7) and A grade (lvl 8) craft.
...there are some items that craft cost is sooo little and sell value is good enough..THAT I WAS MEANING WHEN I SAID HELP ME WITH SOME CRAFT ADVICES...but the only think u want to say is to blame somebody...omg..
No WS would tell you their moneymakers. I for one wont. Do a bit of research, check the market for various items, mats and recs. Also figure in the possibility of crafting for crystals. Not that hard to calculate the crafting price of items and then compare them to the selling prices. Time consuming, yes, but not hard at all.
Shots are a way of making money, yeah, but imo B/A-grade has more potential, and it aint that slow either. You just need to mass produce(buy the mats and recs, smaller profit per item, but greater profit in the long run).
OMG GUYS! i have made a post to get some help and the ONLY think u say is "laugh" "idiot" etc...lol...when i was asking about crafting i dont mean that i dont know about it you clever people...there are some items that craft cost is sooo little and sell value is good enough..THAT I WAS MEANING WHEN I SAID HELP ME WITH SOME CRAFT ADVICES...but the only think u want to say is to blame somebody...omg..
L58 warsmith in a few weeks, and your post count is only 6?
2-3 days to get to 20 (for someone new).
1 - 1.5 week(s) to get to 40 (using a pole)
1.5 - 2 weeks to get to 58 (using a pole)
Thats like 4 weeks. 4 weeks sounds reasonable to me. Define "a few".
4 weeks, now then, add in equipment. You gonna pole with D-grade pole till 58?
Post count has nothing to do with lvl and registration date has nothing to do with how long a person has been playing the game, but some dont get it still.
PS. those times are way off for pole ;) If you can have the equipment for your grade that is.
4 weeks, now then, add in equipment. You gonna pole with D-grade pole till 58?
Post count has nothing to do with lvl and registration date has nothing to do with how long a person has been playing the game, but some dont get it still.
PS. those times are way off for pole ;) If you can have the equipment for your grade that is.
It probably takes even less. My destroyer friend got to 61 in like 3 weeks, but he had some help with gear and didnt play every day. My point was that 58 is in no way unreasonable. It was also to point out that "a few" is relative.
Equipment is not much of a problem anymore. You get soo much free stuff its not even funny. Using a pole, you will be raking in the cash.
Ya, takes way less. But free stuff, that I havent noticed. Unless you mean those D-grade thingies and Shadow Weapon coupons. But meh, B-grade is still quite expensive, so either he has friends, has been making some money(cutting into the few) or... well ^^
Poling can be a huge source of income, if you pole in the right places that is. Tanor Canyon is good for the SB drops. enough Shadow and Solar Flare books and you're rich ^^. Got 9 on my WS alt during her days, and took only 2 lvls there.
The lvling speed is not a problem, equipment imho is. Then again, what is "few weeks"? :)
Ya, takes way less. But free stuff, that I havent noticed. Unless you mean those D-grade thingies and Shadow Weapon coupons. But meh, B-grade is still quite expensive, so either he has friends, has been making some money(cutting into the few) or... well ^^
Poling can be a huge source of income, if you pole in the right places that is. Tanor Canyon is good for the SB drops. enough Shadow and Solar Flare books and you're rich ^^. Got 9 on my WS alt during her days, and took only 2 lvls there.
The lvling speed is not a problem, equipment imho is. Then again, what is "few weeks"? :)
Exactly. You could also be making a bit of extra cash on the side by setting up a craft shop (He is a WS after all). Set up a craft shop at night, wake up with 100k + more than you went to bed with.
The shadow weapon coupons you get at 20 AND 40 (if I remember correctly), so you get free D and C grade.
O.o Mad. Well, actually now that I think of it, equipment isnt that big a problem either. Shadow weapons in B-grade cost 100k, and with one pole you can pole for quite some time, raking in nice profit and EXP. Just need to buy armors and shots and ready to go.
4 weeks, now then, add in equipment. You gonna pole with D-grade pole till 58?
Post count has nothing to do with lvl and registration date has nothing to do with how long a person has been playing the game, but some dont get it still.
PS. those times are way off for pole ;) If you can have the equipment for your grade that is.
It probably takes even less. My destroyer friend got to 61 in like 3 weeks, but he had some help with gear and didnt play every day. My point was that 58 is in no way unreasonable. It was also to point out that "a few" is relative.
Equipment is not much of a problem anymore. You get soo much free stuff its not even funny. Using a pole, you will be raking in the cash.
Yeah, but he's asking for things he can craft to make 'easy profit'. If he can outfit and level a WS to 58 then what does he need ways to make profit for? He's already done it! (More than the WS will be able to make in the same amount of time as well.)
If he's played long enough to get another char up high enough to make the money to outfit the WS (Even sharing the same gear!) then by now it should be obvious what is and isn't worthwhile for a 'smith. And if it isn't he should just put the WS away and just go back to the 'main'. Because nothing we can suggest is going to make up for the lack of knowledge regarding the L2 economy and crafting at this point. (That's up to him to research, and not just ask for 'teh easy'.)
4 weeks, now then, add in equipment. You gonna pole with D-grade pole till 58?
Post count has nothing to do with lvl and registration date has nothing to do with how long a person has been playing the game, but some dont get it still.
PS. those times are way off for pole ;) If you can have the equipment for your grade that is.
It probably takes even less. My destroyer friend got to 61 in like 3 weeks, but he had some help with gear and didnt play every day. My point was that 58 is in no way unreasonable. It was also to point out that "a few" is relative.
Equipment is not much of a problem anymore. You get soo much free stuff its not even funny. Using a pole, you will be raking in the cash.
Yeah, but he's asking for things he can craft to make 'easy profit'. If he can outfit and level a WS to 58 then what does he need ways to make profit for? He's already done it! (More than the WS will be able to make in the same amount of time as well.)
If he's played long enough to get another char up high enough to make the money to outfit the WS (Even sharing the same gear!) then by now it should be obvious what is and isn't worthwhile for a 'smith. And if it isn't he should just put the WS away and just go back to the 'main'. Because nothing we can suggest is going to make up for the lack of knowledge regarding the L2 economy and crafting at this point. (That's up to him to research, and not just ask for 'teh easy'.)
Not necessarily. I got up to like 62 on my HE while being totally oblivious to how the L2 economy worked. You dont NEED top gear to lvl. Heck, on my BD I got to 52 in Brig. I am sure he can get to 58 in full plate.
Yea, no probs going to 58 in FP. GoE is good exp till 55 and then he can hit Skyshadow Meadow. Also, armor isnt the problem is someone else is the main puller/poler.
Anyway, asking other people for their money making secrets is rude ^^ I craft my stuff, you figure out what works for you.
Ok.. people complain how I responded.. so here is my FEEDBACK and why I laughed.
Hello all...i have made one WarSmith lvl 58 already in only a few weeks...i would like someone who had experience or knowledge of this character to give me some tips about warsmith...The tips i want to know are
a)xp areas from 58-62 that i warsmith can easily xp without risk of easy death
Ok.. as someone who has leveled a warsmith to 58 (I have) .. as your first character you don't do it in a "few weeks" Not unless one has signifigant assistance from others and pre- knowlege of the game. See below for why he is implying in his post that this is his FIRST CHARACTER.
b)some tips about craft system..what/how to craft to have some easy profit etc...plz help me with this subject..
This is one you just do not ask another warsmith. As other posters said it is very rude, and essentialy he was asking them to take the research they spent the effort to do... and hand it to him on a platter. Thus making the other warsmiths on his server make less money by him bieng addionanal competion. All without doing the work to earn it. This is essentialy like asking a company for there "trade secrets". My reply to this is a simple no. Learn your class and do the research.
c)i will lvl up a damage deeler later so i would like to ask until what lvl u should lvl up the warsmith..is 62 good enough?or i should lvl up more to have a better earn of money..?
Now this is where he implys that this warsmith is is first character. Again as I said above.. you dont just level up a warsmith to 58 without knowing something about what kinds of places to level and how to do it. IF he is ligit.. he is again asking for the easy button. But this makes him look very non ligit in my book. Either way I am not inclined to assist one who does not show they make an honest effort to discover where one can level. This is basic stuff here for anyone who bothers to put in even a minor effort of research and exploration. Anyone that knows there character and leveled it honestly should know this or have a very good idea of how and where to level at this stage. If he does not know his character by the time he got to 58.. he should simply not be playing this game.
To the orignial poster: A warsmith takes a lot of effort to learn how to do it right. Don't dis the time and effort others have done learning this class because you cant be bothered to spend the effort to do it yourself. This game is about putting in effort.. both in learning the economics and leveling. If you want super easy this is just not the game for you. I am more than happy to help and assist one who does show that effort. But by your very questions it is obvious you have not.
You are making a mistake...yeah its my first character..MY FIRST CHARACTER IN GUSTIN..do u ever think that??i think no..So stop telling bad thinks etc...dont reply if u dont have something to say..ciao!!
First off, as someone has pointed out already, forums post count and registration date is no indication of level. After this post, I will be up to 4 on an account that is 3 years old. I simply just did not post alot.
Get a 2nd account, level a BH (to 58 in a few weeks LOL) and then feed the WS with mats from the BH including receipes and then switch back and forth. At 58 I was using by BH for mats and my WS shots and B Armor and Weapons.
IMHO $$ doesn't happen till you reach B grade (lvl 7) and A grade (lvl 8) craft.
Very well put guppy...I am doing the same thing except I use my second account for my healer/buffer. I have the WS and BH on same account. I switch gear between my BH (actually still a scavy, almost BH) and WS. So now I have to wait til 40 to start switching again but you get the idea. Between the two of them I get plenty of basic mats and D grade parts. Depending on my crystal count at the time and the value of the item, I either crush or sell the items. Sometimes I sell the crystals, just depends on my mood and $$. I also craft shots from time to time. Most of the time it's for my personal use but I do set up shop now and then. Using them myself saves me the money of buying them obviously. It's not a tremedous profit but every little bit helps.
I am not posting this stuff to stir up trouble but I take issue with all those here that always try to find something wrong with someone else. Why can't people just take the questions and respons respectfully if they have information that would be helpful? If you can't do that, just don't respond.
Ok.. people complain how I responded.. so here is my FEEDBACK and why I laughed.
Ok.. as someone who has leveled a warsmith to 58 (I have) .. as your first character you don't do it in a "few weeks" Not unless one has signifigant assistance from others and pre- knowlege of the game. See below for why he is implying in his post that this is his FIRST CHARACTER.
Now this is where he implys that this warsmith is is first character. Again as I said above.. you dont just level up a warsmith to 58 without knowing something about what kinds of places to level and how to do it. IF he is ligit.. he is again asking for the easy button. But this makes him look very non ligit in my book. Either way I am not inclined to assist one who does not show they make an honest effort to discover where one can level. This is basic stuff here for anyone who bothers to put in even a minor effort of research and exploration. Anyone that knows there character and leveled it honestly should know this or have a very good idea of how and where to level at this stage. If he does not know his character by the time he got to 58.. he should simply not be playing this game.
To the orignial poster: A warsmith takes a lot of effort to learn how to do it right. Don't dis the time and effort others have done learning this class because you cant be bothered to spend the effort to do it yourself. This game is about putting in effort.. both in learning the economics and leveling. If you want super easy this is just not the game for you. I am more than happy to help and assist one who does show that effort. But by your very questions it is obvious you have not.
So let's look at this. You have pointed out, in your opinion, that this is his first character. Well, whether this is his 1st character or 101st character is irrelevant. This is his 1st WS!
You also pointed out that you don't make it to 58 without significant help from others AND pre-knowledge of the game. How about if the others he may have had assistance from were the ones with knowledge of the game and he just tagged along? I've done it. My first set of duals for my BD were GIVEN to me by my clan leader when I was 20 or 21 on our way out to a hunting spot I had never been to that was a helluva lot better than where I was hunting. I'd consider that significant help from others.
He already told you that he knows the basics of his character. He was simply looking for some tips to make himself a little better. I don't interpret his request as asking for your "trade secrets" so he can steal your business, but maybe just a little nudge in the right direction. Research can be done in many forms: books on the subject, websites, trial and error, forums <------- ooops, lets take that one out from now on cuz experts like you only give critiscism instead of help. Seriously, one of the best ways to get information is to ask those that have done it.
Finally, I will accept your logic on this topic of him not doing the research if you and everyone else here can say they have NEVER asked someone else who has done something previously for some advice or help. Before you say you haven't, ask yourself if you have EVER asked someone or went to a website for information on class change quests or any other quest for that matter. If you have, then you fall into the category that you are trying to put him into -- someone who wants to hit the easy button by getting the information that someone else put in a quest guide. Granted, crafting and questing are different, but the principal of what is being said here is the exact same.
If those questions were asked at level 30, I would be more than glad to answer. At 58 something doesn't seem right.
Maybe it's just me, but after meeting numerous people that their knowledge of the game does not come in par with their level, I have become very suspicious...
Given the prevalence of the RMT industry in L2, and pre-leveled toons bought and sold, it's only natural (and probably right) that veteran players and posters look at "board-noobs" with a wary eye when they have stories that appear, on the surface, as rather fishy.
Ok here is some info for you, just the basics mind you. Shots for the most part this is your staple crop for you it can give you a steady but what appears to be a meager source of income but over time it can gear up numerous toons. I must add inorder to do that you have to spend large amounts of time craftting and having a SE or EE friend recharging you halps alot just be sure to take care of them.
It is very easy to make adena on crafting DSS alone as long as you are willing to craft the shots and shop around for crystals. In a weeks time with only 100k to work with I ended with 1.5 mil give or take a little. I will admit that I had some recharges from friendly Se's and EE's.
Know the market of your server this goes for everyone here just knowing what sells and sells for a good profit works wonders. I will give another freebie Brig helms sell for crazy prices on all servers you have to figure out where the stuff drops at. Also when you go to buy stuff try to find someone who is by their computer and bargin with them. I almost never pay the original asking price unless t is low enough. I will bargin for a better price and even offer mats or other stuff in exchange for what I want.
There is one more important thing that is a must for all crafters is to have a cheat sheet. What this is is a list of items and the crystal values of the items. This way it is easy to see just how good a deal you are getting when buying low end gear for crystals.
The last thing to do is check out the various fan sites. They have alot of useful info floating around from soul shot and stat caculators. This is all stuff you should know having a lvl 58 WS and this might be all the help you get here. I know alot of people willing to help new players out but they must be willing to learn on there own. I will help anyone willing to help themselves and not expecting all the work to be done for them.
Given the prevalence of the RMT industry in L2, and pre-leveled toons bought and sold, it's only natural (and probably right) that veteran players and posters look at "board-noobs" with a wary eye when they have stories that appear, on the surface, as rather fishy.
I can understand that, it makes absolute perfect sense. The problem is that people are too quick too point the finger and accuse someone rather than take a minute and offer assistance to someone that may be legit no matter how fishy the story is. For all the people that play dwarves, how many times have you been accused of being a farmer? Just because at one time the majority of farmers were playing BH, doesn't mean everyone that plays one is a farmer. By definition we are all farmers, but I'm sure you understand I am talking about gold farmers that sell it. When I two-box, I sometimes get accused of botting. Just because something appears to be a certain way on the surface, does not mean that it is actually that way underneath. We have all heard the saying "Perception is Reality" but I would argue that is far from the truth at least in this game.
I could understand if the guy asked at lvl 58 "How do I craft an item, I've never done it before?" That would be an indicator, not proof positive, but a big indicator that it was a bought account. He didn't ask that. He asked for some advice on WHAT he should craft to be the most profitable. That seems to be smart money, rather than waste time on worthless junk, let's ask people that are at that level what they do. He also asked where he should go for FUTURE leveling. All in all, his request sounds reasonable. I would help but unfortunately I'm not high enough to give advice for that level.
Just a thought: I can't remember what I crafted when I was 30. That doesn't mean I bought the account some time after level 30 now does it? ;)
I crafted same stuff at lvl 30 that I do now. B/A-grade armors, jewels and weapons. Ofcourse, my WS is my alt so that explains why I did it that way ^^
make second account with wc or pp and se
Use a pole
make shots...lots and lots of shots....then make more shots...
and don't be a feq and think that cheap shots = more friends
your time is valuable, charge a reasonable amount, and making 1 adena per shot is not reasonable.