Karma... hate it, don't you?

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Ok... look at this:

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8954/shot00139qw0.th.jpg (http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot00139qw0.jpg)

Can you guess what happened? Created this character today and after reaching lvl 10 or so I decided to go have some pvp fun. And then it happened: A PK... And I liked it ;) did 3 more (reached about 1.6k karma) and then I realised: "Hey wait a sec... I wanna lvl this character and reach some high lvl..." Ok, I thought I would start a different character... no problem there, just 1 small one: all my stuff where on this character and I can't even get into town to freight them... so I decided to get rid of the karma... didn't realise it would be that hard tho :( got killed after a while and got death penalty lvl 1 then got killed again and so on until got penalty lvl 15... OUCH and i couldn't kill anything... so the only way was to die... Died all the way to lvl 2... and with these stats you see in the image started killing wolves and got rid of all karma... all in a days work lol :) I decided not to pk anyone again... at least i think I won't!

Thank you for reading!

P.S: All replies are apreciated (positive or negative), but please don't write "OMG ur such a n00b" or stuff like that...
I didn't think you go Minus on a stat.... :eek:
Yeah, neither did I... and HOPED not, but no luck :)
You died all the way to lvl 2....ofcourse, you know on something, called an official server, you don't lose xp under lvl 9.
I hope you learned the lesson: "Pk's bad mkay" ...

I personally can't seem to understand the fun in Pking people. PVP, yes. Pk, no.

You died all the way to lvl 2....ofcourse, you know on something, called an official server, you don't lose xp under lvl 9.



I swear it was on franz!!! Just create a character on franz and pm me tomorrow after 1 PM GMT and i'll reply so you'll see i'm there


You died all the way to lvl 2....ofcourse, you know on something, called an official server, you don't lose xp under lvl 9.



I swear it was on franz!!! Just create a character on franz and pm me tomorrow after 1 PM GMT and i'll reply so you'll see i'm there



If you are talking the truth, although I heavily doubt that, but as I am just too tired to be a [censored], I'd write to support, cause this just can't be right, seriously.

I hope you learned the lesson: "Pk's bad mkay" ...



Sure did...
Minus on stats are due to accumulative death penalties. That's what Recovery scrolls are for.



You died all the way to lvl 2....ofcourse, you know on something, called an official server, you don't lose xp under lvl 9.



I swear it was on franz!!! Just create a character on franz and pm me tomorrow after 1 PM GMT and i'll reply so you'll see i'm there



If you are talking the truth, although I heavily doubt that, but as I am just too tired to be a [censored], I'd write to support, cause this just can't be right, seriously.



Sorry mate, wish there was a better way to prove I'm writing the truth, but I don't believe there is... :(

Minus on stats are due to accumulative death penalties. That's what Recovery scrolls are for.



Too bad you can't use them while you're chaotic... :/
Maybe the passive buff doesn't work AFTER you have hit level 9?

i.e. you can delevel back to 1.
Ok, let me try to get this, minus stats...right...minus evasion, does that mean you have uberevasion then? Or just triple paralyzed?

I can understand stats go down from death penalty, but your evasion can't go under 0, when you are a rock you don't evade anything, nobody will miss that, so no need to make it even lower huh.

And besides that, death penalty does not remove the fact that you have a passive skill that prevents you from losing xp under lvl 9, it's mostly that what bothers me, and fuels my thought that he should write support if he is from Franz.
It just ain't right, I already know what lvl 9 Death Penalty looks like from my rogue TH, but that's only a 20% decrease, not more then that and it goes down pretty straightforward not heavily declined all of a sudden.
Oh, yes. That, too. Sorry. Never been in your shoes.
you know there are other ways to you could have done like go to a secluded spot and drop ur gear and bring back new toon to pick up.
elvin village has so many deserted spots this is easy to do.

my pk toons have hideouts all over the place where I have stashed my haste and run potions and [censored]. of course I know I will lose them if the server crashes b4 tuesday but oh well thats why I dont put anything I dont want to lose.

think creatively like a rogue and you can make the best of things.
The passive skill, word to word is: Lucky lvl 1, passive skill. Prevents the Death Penalty while you are level 9 or lower.

Carry on.
Maybe if I post tomorrow an image with me and the two event cats, then will you believe that I am a playing on Franz?

The passive skill, word to word is: Lucky lvl 1, passive skill. Prevents the Death Penalty while you are level 9 or lower.

Carry on.



Well I'm actually glad someone summed up the skill data.

@ Kroy, it's not really an issue about believing you or not, it's about you able to write support about it or not, that alone should prove enough.


The passive skill, word to word is: Lucky lvl 1, passive skill. Prevents the Death Penalty while you are level 9 or lower.

Carry on.



Well I'm actually glad someone summed up the skill data.

@ Kroy, it's not really an issue about believing you or not, it's about you able to write support about it or not, that alone should prove enough.



Eh... How do I do that? Sorry I only play for 1 month :(



The passive skill, word to word is: Lucky lvl 1, passive skill. Prevents the Death Penalty while you are level 9 or lower.

Carry on.



Well I'm actually glad someone summed up the skill data.

@ Kroy, it's not really an issue about believing you or not, it's about you able to write support about it or not, that alone should prove enough.



Eh... How do I do that? Sorry I only play for 1 month :(



Typ /GM and enter in game, the window will explain you further how to write a correct support ticket.




The passive skill, word to word is: Lucky lvl 1, passive skill. Prevents the Death Penalty while you are level 9 or lower.

Carry on.



Well I'm actually glad someone summed up the skill data.

@ Kroy, it's not really an issue about believing you or not, it's about you able to write support about it or not, that alone should prove enough.



Eh... How do I do that? Sorry I only play for 1 month :(



Typ /GM and enter in game, the window will explain you further how to write a correct support ticket.



Oh, sort of a petition thingy :)
Yes, but petitioning is only a small part of what you can do with this in game feature, just hope that a good GM takes care of your case, otherwhise you get dirt. I have had GM's taking care of my quest stopped, bugs, whatever, and others just automatically replying to stuff, too bad you can't choose which GM to look at your case, so you just have to sit it out.
Wow those stats were pitiful and you got 1.6k of a few people?????
It is possible to delevel below level 9, if you have PK'd once or more.
Yeah, I think luck stops working if you have pk's
Good thing, so you can still be redeemed, if you learned the lesson. I guess. :)
Ah, I was beginning to despair at what Orvieta was writing. :p Champa and LC are correct, luck stopped working for PKers quite a while ago - esp as a countermeasure vs. delevelled archers who can still hit ridiculously hard with no grade bows. :o

Good ol' C1 PKers. x.x
If you want to transfer gear off a red I believe their is frieght service in floran that you can use.

Also the priest of darkness will remove death penalty for a fee. Havne't tried it while red, but I'm pretty sure you can.

Yeah, I think luck stops working if you have pk's



Yes, that was a change in a previous chronicle. If you have a PK count, the lucky skill is removed.
Yeah, I guess its totally removed, probably to prevent people from making pk's, level then up to 15 get skills, delevel to 9, then run around griefing with no fear of losing xp.

Ok... look at this:

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8954/shot00139qw0.th.jpg (http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot00139qw0.jpg)

Can you guess what happened?





ROFL, you got OWNED ^^

I made a post a time or two how it is completely pointless these days to have a PermaPker cause of the crap like this. Oh well as the time goes by, this game will only get more and more carebear.......which is a sad concept in and of itself really.


Minus on stats are due to accumulative death penalties. That's what Recovery scrolls are for.



Your sig says: SR 6x, and WS 4x.

I say, grats to have high lvl chars and even more of a GRATZ on being a high level noob.


Also the priest of darkness will remove death penalty for a fee. Havne't tried it while red, but I'm pretty sure you can.



It sure can, and the amount they charge is absurd. It's not the same price as you'd get a scroll for. So unless someone has a ton of extra adena to throw into a can(literraly), it's better to rid the karma and they buy a bunch of scrolls.



You died all the way to lvl 2....ofcourse, you know on something, called an official server, you don't lose xp under lvl 9.



I swear it was on franz!!! Just create a character on franz and pm me tomorrow after 1 PM GMT and i'll reply so you'll see i'm there



If you are talking the truth, although I heavily doubt that, but as I am just too tired to be a [censored], I'd write to support, cause this just can't be right, seriously.



not too well informed, are you?

if you have pk's, regardless of if you have karma, you lose xp when you die. even at level 5 and under.

Ok, let me try to get this, minus stats...right...minus evasion, does that mean you have uberevasion then? Or just triple paralyzed?

I can understand stats go down from death penalty, but your evasion can't go under 0, when you are a rock you don't evade anything, nobody will miss that, so no need to make it even lower huh.

And besides that, death penalty does not remove the fact that you have a passive skill that prevents you from losing xp under lvl 9, it's mostly that what bothers me, and fuels my thought that he should write support if he is from Franz.
It just ain't right, I already know what lvl 9 Death Penalty looks like from my rogue TH, but that's only a 20% decrease, not more then that and it goes down pretty straightforward not heavily declined all of a sudden.



evasion doesnt work like that.

it works as a difference between the attackers accuracy, and the victims evasion.


Ok, let me try to get this, minus stats...right...minus evasion, does that mean you have uberevasion then? Or just triple paralyzed?

I can understand stats go down from death penalty, but your evasion can't go under 0, when you are a rock you don't evade anything, nobody will miss that, so no need to make it even lower huh.

And besides that, death penalty does not remove the fact that you have a passive skill that prevents you from losing xp under lvl 9, it's mostly that what bothers me, and fuels my thought that he should write support if he is from Franz.
It just ain't right, I already know what lvl 9 Death Penalty looks like from my rogue TH, but that's only a 20% decrease, not more then that and it goes down pretty straightforward not heavily declined all of a sudden.



evasion doesnt work like that.

it works as a difference between the attackers accuracy, and the victims evasion.



Yeah DUH, apparently your imagination doesn't go that far to see the comparison. But ok, that's not really helping the OP, so whatever.

Personally I have gone red under lvl 9, died, but never gotten any xp loss or death penalty, so Maline II, I was quite amazed yes as I never heard of being able to lose xp under lvl 9, no matter what state your character is in.


I got OWNED (http://Kroy.justgotowned.com)

But be carefull at the song (if it can be called that :)) it starts pretty ugly... Cheers!



haha awesome man, I've been looking for that thing for a while now :p
THAT SURE WAS FUN!

right?

THAT SURE WAS FUN!



Guess you could say that :)


THAT SURE WAS FUN!



Guess you could say that :)


<3


Minus on stats are due to accumulative death penalties. That's what Recovery scrolls are for.



Your sig says: SR 6x, and WS 4x.

I say, grats to have high lvl chars and even more of a GRATZ on being a high level noob.


It could be a logical assumption, and when I'm wrong everyone should feel free to correct me.

Thanks for grats. I aspire one day to be a Nooblesse. :)
Ok, lol so I was really bored today and went out for a bit of fun. I have a couple of pics to share:

XP Loss WITH LUCKY passive (http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=508724)

Login Screen (http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=508722)

Official Death Penalty lvl 15 (http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=508721)

funny how sooo many people in this thread were dead wrong. well, there ya go :p it would be funny if some numnuts comes in and calls these were from an illegal server too
So, you mean the minus on stats is what death penalty does generally, or... ?

I don't understand the first screenshot though: if Lucky prevents the Death Penalty on level 9 and lower character, how is it possible to get it while being lvl 9 or 8?

TIA

So, you mean the minus on stats is what death penalty does generally, or... ?

I don't understand the first screenshot though: if Lucky prevents the Death Penalty on level 9 and lower character, how is it possible to get it while being lvl 9 or 8?

TIA



Having a PK count above zero trumps the Lucky Skill.

Ok, lol so I was really bored today and went out for a bit of fun. I have a couple of pics to share:

XP Loss WITH LUCKY passive (http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=508724)

Login Screen (http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=508722)

Official Death Penalty lvl 15 (http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=508721)

funny how sooo many people in this thread were dead wrong. well, there ya go :p it would be funny if some numnuts comes in and calls these were from an illegal server too




Thanks for the support, mate! ^^


So, you mean the minus on stats is what death penalty does generally, or... ?

I don't understand the first screenshot though: if Lucky prevents the Death Penalty on level 9 and lower character, how is it possible to get it while being lvl 9 or 8?

TIA



Having a PK count above zero trumps the Lucky Skill.



I see. Thanks!
That he really has an active account and playing on retail. :)
You know, I'd love to explain further,, too bad anyone of the choice comments will probably get me banned :p

Have a nice day

You know, I'd love to explain further,, too bad anyone of the choice comments will probably get me banned :p

Have a nice day



:D As you see, posting the login screen does not have anything to do with the screenshots.

It was just a sarcastic remark, I hope I made your day! ;)


You know, I'd love to explain further,, too bad anyone of the choice comments will probably get me banned :p

Have a nice day



:D As you see, posting the login screen does not have anything to do with the screenshots.

It was just a sarcastic remark, I hope I made your day! ;)



Actually it does. How many private sites out there that you know of that have 10 or more servers?
Actually, it doesnt. There's plenty of login screen pics floating the net. You could have just copied one of those and kaching you're now "on" retail ^^

As the login screen does not carry any personified data or timestamps(even tho they dont prove you playing on retail alone), it does not prove anything, really.
OMG ur such a n00b!

OMG ur such a n00b!



Now that's very constructive comment. :p
Next!

OMG ur such a n00b!



I should have known better... this was bound to happen...
(always wanted to say that :))
Thanks for letting me know anyway...

Ah, I was beginning to despair at what Orvieta was writing. :p Champa and LC are correct, luck stopped working for PKers quite a while ago - esp as a countermeasure vs. delevelled archers who can still hit ridiculously hard with no grade bows. :o

Good ol' C1 PKers. x.x



I remember a pker in OB that delvled from 35 to 4 and was still in D grade. Oh the good ol' days.




You died all the way to lvl 2....ofcourse, you know on something, called an official server, you don't lose xp under lvl 9.



I swear it was on franz!!! Just create a character on franz and pm me tomorrow after 1 PM GMT and i'll reply so you'll see i'm there



If you are talking the truth, although I heavily doubt that, but as I am just too tired to be a [censored], I'd write to support, cause this just can't be right, seriously.



Sorry mate, wish there was a better way to prove I'm writing the truth, but I don't believe there is... :(



dude dont worry the person is messing with ya or it is really stupid your screenshot tells us your in a live server and with an ongoing event plus newbie coins something you dont see in private servers since this adds are new.