Chinise Gold Farmers...

Take a look at these videos...i don't like farmers in-game but i am really feeling sorry about this guy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH1LGdjZUKQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8XRvnH6-g4

The moment they stop cheating or helping people cheat and leave the servers is the moment I'll spare a second to feel sorry about them.

Until then, the situation is clear: People who deliberately piss me off by cheating and helping cheaters deserve to be paid back in kind.

The moment they stop cheating or helping people cheat and leave the servers is the moment I'll spare a second to feel sorry about them.

Until then, the situation is clear: People who deliberately piss me off by cheating and helping cheaters deserve to be paid back in kind.

The ignorence of your post is amazing, Its not just Chinese helping people cheat or buy accounts, its your american and other friends also.

Ive been to China, ive seen the poverty and you know what, i love making friends with the chinese players, they help you alot as long as you help them, they have alot of fun, sure the afk bots i dont really help at all.

Either way, your lucky where ever u are and i can understand why they do it, its a good income and fun compared to the other jobs they have, or lack of.

The ignorence of your post is amazing, Its not just Chinese helping people cheat or buy accounts, its your american and other friends also.

Where did I wrote a single word about China?!?

It's the cheaters that piss me off, I don't care about their nationality. If I can piss them off in return, I'm a happy Dwarfie.

Ive been to China, ive seen the poverty and you know what, i love making friends with the chinese players, they help you alot as long as you help them, they have alot of fun, sure the afk bots i dont really help at all.

He, bringing some farmer/powerleveller/botter to beg me to stop doing what I do 'cause they "need adena" (who doesn't? :)), telling him politely that I will as soon as he leaves the game forever, and watching him growing more and more desperate is a lot of fun. And the [censored] fully deserves it too for trying to ruin my game with his cheating.

Actually he's not that ignorant. He never specifically mentions Chinese farmers, he seems to be talking about cheaters in general. And out of the hundreds of possible methods for the China under population to get out poverty I hardly think the winning option will be a development of the adena farming industry.

lol qq more gold farmers. you get as much sympathy from me as every other cheater. get a real job.

Actually he's not that ignorant. He never specifically mentions Chinese farmers, he seems to be talking about cheaters in general. And out of the hundreds of possible methods for the China under population to get out poverty I hardly think the winning option will be a development of the adena farming industry.

Your right, and i guess reducing carbon dioxide wont help stop global warming, or eating less fat wont make you thinner, or 100 other things.

Every little bit helps, and its generally 18-22 year olds doin git who are generally stdying or taking it up as a living.

This will always be a large industy in china, estimate how many accounts are used for this in WOW and lineage2 alone and im sure you would come up with a figure no less than 100k, closer to 700k.

Chinese MANUFACTURING industries have hit a spike. a lot of factories (even from my standpoint dealing with about 30 factories) cannot keep up with demand.

cant get a job my left foot. these companies are already multi BILLION USdollar a year companies and are hiring out the wazoo paying above minimum wage.

just because you cant sit at work and play your game doesnt mean "the industry is difficult."

hit the road

Actually he's not that ignorant. He never specifically mentions Chinese farmers, he seems to be talking about cheaters in general.

So you mean when the op specifically say these videos are about CHINESE farmer, and the first reply is

The moment they stop cheating or helping people cheat and leave the servers is the moment I'll spare a second to feel sorry about them.

Is it not implied that "they" and "them" is referring to the chinese farmers mentioned in the first post?

Actually he's not that ignorant. He never specifically mentions Chinese farmers, he seems to be talking about cheaters in general.

So you mean when the op specifically say these videos are about CHINESE farmer, and the first reply is

The moment they stop cheating or helping people cheat and leave the servers is the moment I'll spare a second to feel sorry about them.

Is it not implied that "they" and "them" is referring to the chinese farmers mentioned in the first post?



Exactly.

It refers also to the Chinese farmers, but I also quite happily include all other cheaters who are currently wasting processor time on the L2 servers in the same category.

Chinese MANUFACTURING industries have hit a spike. a lot of factories (even from my standpoint dealing with about 30 factories) cannot keep up with demand.

cant get a job my left foot. these companies are already multi BILLION USdollar a year companies and are hiring out the wazoo paying above minimum wage.

just because you cant sit at work and play your game doesnt mean "the industry is difficult."

hit the road

Im sure your also happy to work for $5 a day hey? Here u can take over all their jobs!,

Adena farmers make x4 the average rate a factory worker gets, want to know how i know? Company i work for outsources printing etc to china and manufacturing of some products, so yes i know the price they make, and yes i know how much the farmers make.

I know which one id rather be in if i lived there. Also they get accomidation and food paid for generally if the boss is nice.

Whoa there little buddy. Dont you know you are offending over a billion chinese and several europeans and one Asian expat living in New Zealand with your comments about the Chinese?

There shall be no commenting on the prevalence of Chinese gold farmers in MMOs. In the name of PC ness we shall not make these comments.

Thank you,

farmers making a living.. leave them alone.. dont judge people trying put food in there belly...

farmers making a living.. leave them alone.. dont judge people trying put food in there belly...

He, I'm not judging anyone. Cheaters, botters and other such scum just piss me off because they deliberately destroy the game. So I feel quite justified in piss them off and make their life miserable in return. Eye for an eye, baby.

Your right, and i guess reducing carbon dioxide wont help stop global warming,
Every little bit helps, and its generally 18-22 year olds doin git who are generally stdying or taking it up as a living.

Seriously? Couldn't resist.
You know why 18-20 year olds believe that carbon dioxide CAUSES global warming? Cause they're easy to convince.
Ahem.....it's the SUN. Hot, firey, glowing thing in the sky?

Is the globe getting hotter? Marginally. Is it caused by PEOPLE? You're [censored] me, right?
It's caused by the SUN--just like every other instance over the past billion years.

If Man tried, in his arrogance, to change the temperature on this planet by 0.01 degree for 100 years it could not be done.

Now that the globe has officially entered a predicted decade-long COOLING period, we gonna blame THAT on carbon dioxide too? How does your 'greenhouse effect' model work with steadily FALLING temperatures? (lol)

Stop drinking marxist coolaide and THINK. Why would the earth heat up, as it had BEFORE the Industrial Revolution? It's the SUN....cause that's what the sun DOES.

So yes, in fact I WILL tell you that carbon dioxide has nothing to do with the socialist fallacy of so-called "global warming".
Next thing you know some idiots will by paying Al Gore's company for "carbon offsets" <wink wink> (hahahahahhahahhahahahaha)

...oh wait..

Your right, and i guess reducing carbon dioxide wont help stop global warming,
Every little bit helps, and its generally 18-22 year olds doin git who are generally stdying or taking it up as a living.

Seriously? Couldn't resist.
You know why 18-20 year olds believe that carbon dioxide CAUSES global warming? Cause they're easy to convince.
Ahem.....it's the SUN. Hot, firey, glowing thing in the sky?

Is the globe getting hotter? Marginally. Is it caused by PEOPLE? You're [censored] me, right?
It's caused by the SUN--just like every other instance over the past billion years.

If Man tried, in his arrogance, to change the temperature on this planet by 0.01 degree for 100 years it could not be done.

Now that the globe has officially entered a predicted decade-long COOLING period, we gonna blame THAT on carbon dioxide too? How does your 'greenhouse effect' model work with steadily FALLING temperatures? (lol)

Stop drinking marxist coolaide and THINK. Why would the earth heat up, as it had BEFORE the Industrial Revolution? It's the SUN....cause that's what the sun DOES.

So yes, in fact I WILL tell you that carbon dioxide has nothing to do with the socialist fallacy of so-called "global warming".
Next thing you know some idiots will by paying Al Gore's company for "carbon offsets" <wink wink> (hahahahahhahahhahahahaha)

...oh wait..



Go sit in your ignorence bubble even more,

Down in australia we are feeling the full force of global warming and yea we would like you ****ers producting all the cardon and [censored] to stop it, were in severe droughts, water supplys in my area have dropped from 55%same time last year down to as low as 29% this year because of the lack of rain. We are up to 34% so far but wont max over 40% and by end of summer should be under 20%, thats with LARGE water restrictions already in.

I do actually feel sorry for the guy towards the end since he hasn't graduated high school. Knowing China he probably had to quit to support his family. That does suck.

He doesn't seem to be to down on his job though. So good for him lol. I won't give farmers space in this game though. Not when they come and KS/PK to steal a spot I've been in since before them.

and that was caused by global warming was it?

LOL

to tie the two together - "leaving the gold farmers alone" as about as useful and as morally right as "leaving the mafia alone." in and of itself is not a bad thing, but the mafia ruin the rest of the world. just like gold farmers ruin our game world. so leaving them alone would be bad, mmmmkay?

i bet you didnt know that signing up for the majority of Asian MMO's puts you in the asian gangster's good books. moreso when you buy your gold from their hitmen.

working in a chinese factory - i would do that before i farmed gold in a heartbeat. i know the factories are actually legal tender producing places with pensions and a sales staff. working knowing what youre doing is illegal ... nobody can do. eventually youd go nuts.

so yeah, get a real job chinese farmers. contribute more to the growing greenhouse effect. its legal at least. LOL

i laugh at your ignorance ferci. you really honestly think that global warming causes droughts. lol. just lol.

and that was caused by global warming was it?

LOL

to tie the two together - "leaving the gold farmers alone" as about as useful and as morally right as "leaving the mafia alone." in and of itself is not a bad thing, but the mafia ruin the rest of the world. just like gold farmers ruin our game world. so leaving them alone would be bad, mmmmkay?

i bet you didnt know that signing up for the majority of Asian MMO's puts you in the asian gangster's good books. moreso when you buy your gold from their hitmen.

working in a chinese factory - i would do that before i farmed gold in a heartbeat. i know the factories are actually legal tender producing places with pensions and a sales staff. working knowing what youre doing is illegal ... nobody can do. eventually youd go nuts.

so yeah, get a real job chinese farmers. contribute more to the growing greenhouse effect. its legal at least. LOL

i laugh at your ignorance ferci. you really honestly think that global warming causes droughts. lol. just lol.

yea like all those nike factorys were right? lol dream on

Now that the globe has officially entered a predicted decade-long COOLING period, we gonna blame THAT on carbon dioxide too? How does your 'greenhouse effect' model work with steadily FALLING temperatures? (lol)

From the New York Times:

On Feb. 2, 2007, the United Nations scientific panel studying climate change declared that the evidence of a warming trend is "unequivocal," and that human activity has "very likely" been the driving force in that change over the last 50 years. The last report by the group, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, in 2001, had found that humanity had "likely" played a role.

Source:
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/globalwarming/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier

Here's a FAQ for you, from NOAA:

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html

Seriously. There is no conspiracy, this is happening right now.


Now, back to the topic at hand....

Farmers.

I'm with Akjosch... let them go work at Starbucks, McD's, Burger King, wherever, just like college students do everywhere, and stop my games.

Food in their bellies? These are college students we're talking about, not the desperately poor. Maybe they should hock those 12 PCs for some ramen, neh?

Now that the globe has officially entered a predicted decade-long COOLING period, we gonna blame THAT on carbon dioxide too? How does your 'greenhouse effect' model work with steadily FALLING temperatures? (lol)

From the New York Times:

On Feb. 2, 2007, the United Nations scientific panel studying climate change declared that the evidence of a warming trend is "unequivocal," and that human activity has "very likely" been the driving force in that change over the last 50 years. The last report by the group, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, in 2001, had found that humanity had "likely" played a role.

Source:
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/globalwarming/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier

Here's a FAQ for you, from NOAA:

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html

Seriously. There is no conspiracy, this is happening right now.


Now, back to the topic at hand....

Farmers.

I'm with Akjosch... let them go work at Starbucks, McD's, Burger King, wherever, just like college students do everywhere, and stop *****ing up my games.

Food in their bellies? These are college students we're talking about, not the desperately poor. Maybe they should hock those 12 PCs for some ramen, neh?



you sir have never been to china,

I have been there, its nothing like america or australia, sure they go to collage, the top public schools hardly have any computers, universitys are very minimal and you get paid [censored] for half the jobs there, and yes there is a large lack of it, these kids need Money while going in collage and this provides PERFECT hours of work as its FLEXIBLE around their study.

If i was in their position id do it.

nike factories are legal.

in China and japan and korea, as well as Vietnam, Mongolia and Taiwan among quite a number of other small countries in asia, all you need to do to your workers is pay them. for factories producing mass quantities of items, there is no minimum wage, nor any maximum allowable work time for any worker. I DEAL WITH SWEATSHOPS! I KNOW THIS!! it goes against the geneva convention and i have several bureaus of investigation watching my company just to take down those chinese factories, but having visited the shops i can tell you that in spite of poor working conditions (such as the extreme heat you are currently suffering), a LOT of companies pay above the standard of living. its just good sense.

nike still makes and distributes overpriced shoes, but at a much higher overhead than before.

if the gold farmers had 1% of a brain they could understand that the "companies" they work for are 100% not paying tax, and at a moments notice can stop paying "employees" to avoid suspicion by anyone willing to poke their nose in where it belongs.

and if they do it enough times - well there no food for Tai Mim Bo and his son tonight, now is there.

you might do it, fersi, and you might like it. but the minute you suddenly stop getting paid because "the company folded" you would be on your [censored] without a dime to pay your college, now wouldnt you.

So you mean when the op specifically say these videos are about CHINESE farmer, and the first reply is

You need glasses. The OP does not use the chinese in his post. All I see is the word farmer.

I have nothing against the legal farmers that has never used 3rd party programs.

But the farmers that run a 9 man bot train is a different story...I wish they will all get banned one day.

Yes he did.

It's the title of the thread.

Plz stop with the global warning stuff, it has not been tested enough to get a verdict so drop it. Personal observations of its "hotter" now does not mean anything to the time scale needed to be looked at, such as 100 years

I too would like to make a point just to make a point, regardless of its irrelevance to the OP:

I am a **** beast.

Thank you, that is all.

you sir have never been to china,

I have been there, its nothing like america or australia, sure they go to collage, the top public schools hardly have any computers, universitys are very minimal and you get paid [censored] for half the jobs there, and yes there is a large lack of it, these kids need Money while going in collage and this provides PERFECT hours of work as its FLEXIBLE around their study.

If i was in their position id do it.

Ma'am.

And I don't care, honestly. I simply don't care. Call me selfish, call me racist, call me a [censored], call me whatever.

I simply do not care what the living conditions in China are for their college students. I do know that their trade in farming has fundamentally changed a hobby I enjoy, and made it far less enjoyable in the practice of their business, so I can state, with absolute certainty and without a hint of regret, that if every net-cafe, PC sweat-shop, college dorm, laptop, terminal and PC that ran botting programs and farmer trains in the world suddenly exploded, burst into flames, and killed the operator... I'd not shed a tear.

I.
Do.
Not.
Like.
Farmers.

I don't like the sense of entitlement that seems to go hand-in-hand with those other players that make use of farmer services, either... but I like to think that those sorts have their own private circle of Hell, along with the gluttons, the paedophiles and the usurers. Perhaps there's another circle, a little deeper, maybe a little hotter (or colder, depending on your interpretation of Hell) for farmers, bot-protectors, bot-runners, bot-scriptors and their ilk.

They don't like it when I train them? Report them? PK them? Get them banned?

TOUGH COOKIES!

working in a chinese factory - i would do that before i farmed gold in a heartbeat. i know the factories are actually legal tender producing places with pensions and a sales staff. working knowing what youre doing is illegal ... nobody can do. eventually youd go nuts.

You are thinking of nice clean safe factories. Those in China are not always so. And farming gold is not really illegal in the legal sense, or is it? I think I would rather farm gold than inhaling toxic chemicals and who knows what else. Industry regulation in China is about as crazy as the old wild wild west in the United States.

To me and you L2 is a game. To some people this is what feeds them. What would you do if someone threatens your means to a living? We saw the result of this in the shout channels across several servers yesterday.

Why do people jump the race card issue so fast when it wasnt even brought out until the OP decided to play it?

Yes it can be argued that China does have a large population of poor. Could that be because it still has a large agrarian society? Hmmm. It also cannot be denied that China IS ALREADY an economic superpower. Their military is also building up expecially their Navy. To say that they are all poor and having a business that operates to sell ingame merchandise illegally in the US to feed themselves is BS. I suggest you look up the Iron Rice Bowl.

Akosh I agree with you 100%. Cheaters (and that includes everyone who farms gold for resell) should be banned and I will never feel sorry for them. There is a huge difference between feeding yourself and your family and doing something completely illegal to do it. If a person steals a truck full of food to feed his family it is still stealing and still wrong no matter the situation. There are so many other options out there in no way can society tolerate someone doing something illegal. Otherwise society and its laws go down the toilet.

You are heading down a slippery slope there Fers. To say it is okay for someone else to do something illegal opens up a huge can of worms. What would you say if someone broke into your home to steal from you? Would you say it was okay if they told you it was to feed their family or to pay for college? I doubt it. That is why we have laws. We say it is all wrong and therefore should be punished.

Oh well what do I know......I only turn dinosaurs into noise for a living.

Note to OP/Posters,

No post about farmers nationality whether it is true or false. I bet any farmer can have any nationality. So leave it be!!!

Global warming WTH???? I am playing a game here. I do NOT like real live issue's here. Period!!!!!!!!!!!!

As for farmers that get payed for it in real live cash. Do I feel sorry for them if they do get paid? HELL NO!!!!!
I am here to entertain myself and have a little fun with like minded folks so cheaters etc need to get the "f-word" out of it. Get it?

WTB GOLDEN_PAD_LOCK ASAP,

Thanks

WTB GOLDEN_PAD_LOCK ASAP

I wish we had points for postings. Then we can go buy golden padlocks with our points. Padlock the thread of your choice. :eek:

Ma'am.

And I don't care, honestly. I simply don't care. Call me selfish, call me racist, call me a [censored], call me whatever.

I simply do not care what the living conditions in China are for their college students. I do know that their trade in farming has fundamentally changed a hobby I enjoy, and made it far less enjoyable in the practice of their business, so I can state, with absolute certainty and without a hint of regret, that if every net-cafe, PC sweat-shop, college dorm, laptop, terminal and PC that ran botting programs and farmer trains in the world suddenly exploded, burst into flames, and killed the operator... I'd not shed a tear.

I.
Do.
Not.
Like.
Farmers.

I don't like the sense of entitlement that seems to go hand-in-hand with those other players that make use of farmer services, either... but I like to think that those sorts have their own private circle of Hell, along with the gluttons, the paedophiles and the usurers. Perhaps there's another circle, a little deeper, maybe a little hotter (or colder, depending on your interpretation of Hell) for farmers, bot-protectors, bot-runners, bot-scriptors and their ilk.

They don't like it when I train them? Report them? PK them? Get them banned?

TOUGH COOKIES!

Wow...simply, wow...

And the bad part is, you actually feel okay with this statement. If you're under 20, I completely forgive you.


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