The cost of it all

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Are you kidding me!!!11 :eek:

6,000 adena for C grade crystals
600 adena for D grade crystals

I know this is a player driven economy, but i think all you dwarfs are a greedy bunch :eek:
That's a part of being a dwarf, a good one XD
Those are actually good prices on D crystals, I usually see them for 675 or so.

Those are actually good prices on D crystals, I usually see them for 675 or so.



Yeah, but i need C grade :( and about 2500 of them..... AGGGGGGG :eek:

Are you kidding me!!!11 :eek:

6,000 adena for C grade crystals
600 adena for D grade crystals

I know this is a player driven economy, but i think all you dwarfs are a greedy bunch :eek:



On lionna buy C for 2500
D for 580-590

Can get them cheaper but those will get them fairly quickly. Also, pick an armor already.

. Also, pick an armor already.



Ok, Ok, ok...... Rind Leather Armor cause i look cool in it... I'm Hottt :o
3000 and 650 on devianne, respectively. with craft level 2 you can make mithril boots, which crush into c grade crystals but only take d grade crystals to make. parts for dark stockings, bone helmets, leather boots and exelent leather gloves (or whatever they're called now) also spoil really easily, if u need a few d cry. 6k for c cry is wayyy too much.
seighardt it's like 3500 for c and close to 750-800 for D ... enless your REALLY shop around
Uhm, shouldnt you be able to get them cheaper even with 15% tax, humm? :)

seighardt it's like 3500 for c and close to 750-800 for D ... enless your REALLY shop around



D is getting insane on our server indeed.
Splatter, send me a PM on Kamakela tonight. I have a few hundred C crystals I'll get rid of cheap for ya (like 2800).

Blew up a magic stick going for +4.
all crystals have a fixed price built in until S grade
price for C crys cant go above 3.6k (i think thats the max) and d crys are around 670ish

make friends if you think 6k is rediculous for C crys cause frankly it is ><
If you are really having trouble getting them Splatter buy 1 and set up a BUY shop overnight for like 2600-2800 in buy price. Guaranteed you will have some cheaper crystals in a day or two.


3600 is a ripoff. Sounds like someone is trying to gank your hard earned adena.


If you are really having trouble getting them Splatter buy 1 and set up a BUY shop overnight for like 2600-2800 in buy price. Guaranteed you will have some cheaper crystals in a day or two.


3600 is a ripoff. Sounds like someone is trying to gank your hard earned adena.



3600 (i think maybe as low as 3400) is the absolute max price that a C cry can cost
that is if all castles are set to 15% tax

Are you kidding me!!!11 :eek:

6,000 adena for C grade crystals
600 adena for D grade crystals

I know this is a player driven economy, but i think all you dwarfs are a greedy bunch :eek:



Reroll a dwarf.
at 0% tax the max cost is over 4k. (dualling D swords and crushing) at 30% tax (when i was on another server) the max cost was down to like 3800. ill have to pull out my old notes to show you

all crystals have a fixed price built in until S grade
price for C crys cant go above 3.6k (i think thats the max) and d crys are around 670ish

make friends if you think 6k is rediculous for C crys cause frankly it is ><



At Giran max tax, the *minimum* price you can get D & C Crystals for by buying from NPC's is roughly 680a for D and 3122a for C grade.

This is buying something direct from a shop to crush for D and making C grade duals from D swords. (Crimson * Crimson or SoR * SoR are the most common ways.)

So your D crystal prices are still well under 'ceiling' prices, but your C crystal prices are definately overpriced...

For B grade, you can either need some starter B crystals to make Black Ore jewels or some other parts that use C crystals instead of B for crafting. OR you could Dual some Lux shop swords to make something to crush for B crystals. Which means you need D & C crystals in quantity to start + either 500 SoP or a craftstamp as well.
How much are D grade crystals if you bought from store and crushed them yourself? Shouldnt the D and C crystal market be pretty stable since you can buy these items your self?

How much are D grade crystals if you bought from store and crushed them yourself? Shouldnt the D and C crystal market be pretty stable since you can buy these items your self?

yes. the only thing about it that fluctuated the cost is Drops and OE'ers. typically a serious OE'er will shout to buy some weapon or other for UNDER the npc price. since D drops are fairly common, you can bet there are a number of people with drops to sell for cheap anyway. ive seen tarbars sell for 1m.

there are 2 armors in the Giran shop that give the best crystal price - brig gaiters and excellent leather gloves have the 2 highest Crystal QTY : adena ratio (math lovers beware - multiply by 1 / Crystal QTY and invert the ratio for the crystal price.)
I did not know that piece of trivia. I usually crush the stuff that drops since like you said it drops often.

Whats the best C grade to crush?
i have not determined that yet, best i can come up with results in a crystal cost of 3200 a each, so i havent gotten it down to 2800 where it should be.

C drops so far, ive only ever had 2: mithril gaunts and Karmian stockings. i burned through those resulting crystals in less than 3 hrs.
I have made, and still make so many C rings and drake boots and divine gloves through wh quest I always crush these. Its not much though but enough to get my alts through to B grade ( 2 weeks maybe).
price D 600 / C 2800

chain top 127c 635d 355600+381000=736600 = 3646a/c
gaiters 79c 395d 221200+237000=458200 = 3636a/c
compo 360 c 1800 d 1008000+1080000=2088000 = 3625a/c
mith shirt 95c 475d 266000+285000=551000 = 3649a/c
pants 59c 295d 165200+177000=342200 = 3640a/c
theca upper 207c 1035d 579600+621000=1200600 = 3638a/c
lower 129c 645d 361200+387000=748200 = 3632a/c
karm up 95c 475d (same as mith shirt)
low 59c 295d (same as mith pants)
demon up 184c 920d 515200+552000=1067200 = 3630a/c
low 115c 575d 322000+345000=667000 = 3625a/c
chain boot 32c 160d 89600+96000=185600 = 3712a/c
comp boot 62c 310d 173600+186000=359600 = 3669a/c
mith gloves 32c 160d (same as chain boot)
mith gaunts 62c 310d (same as comp boot)
eldarake 34c 170d 95200+102000=197200 = 3720a/c
towershield 65c 325d 182000+195000=377000 = 3660a/c
moonstone ear 39c 195d 109200+117000=226200 = 3648a/c
binding ear 74c 370d 207200+222000=429200 = 3637a/c
aquastone ring 36c 120d 100800+72000=172800 = 4215a/c
ring ages 49c 245d 137200+147000=284200 = 3644a/c
aquastone neck 52c 260d 145600+156000=301600 = 3678a/c
mermaid neck 99c 495d 277200+297000=574200 = 3657a/c

so lux shop doesnt sell anything really worht crushing even when you buy cheap crystals (D 600, C 2800)

duals: the lowest crystal value i can find is Crimson*Crimson duals which yield 784 C, at a crystal value of 3008a when tax is at 10%. less value when taxes are higher (15% - 3137a)
try elven*elven
also note if giran tax gets too high you can get things cheaper from oren gludio or rune but the tax has to be pretty **** low