Call to Arms & Zaken's Curse

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As of today, August 21st, Zaken's Curse (http://lineage2.com/archive/2007/07/zakens_curse.html) has "ended" and the second wave of Call to Arms (http://lineage2.com/archive/2007/08/call_to_arms_re.html) has begun! We hope you all had a great time curing the cursed pigs! We will be putting up an official poll for Zaken's Curse within the next few weeks, but first we have a few details about the event that we'd like to share.

<ul type="square">As of 8/21/07, all cursed pigs have been removed during the regularly schedule maintenance period.

On 8/28/07, an official Golden Apiga tally will be taken. Once that is done, Bonny the event manager will be removed along with all Apiga, Golden Apiga, and Pirate's Booty. Please make sure you turn in any remaining Apiga and use your Pirate's Booty beforehand! This will take place during the regularly schedule maintenance period.

On 9/4/07, we will be handing out the First Mate's Hat to the top Golden Apiga holders on each server. This will happen during the regularly schedule maintenance period.
takes two weeks to identify and give out a stupid hat to the person who "hunted pigs" and "bought" the most apigas? geez =/

As of 8/21/07, all cursed pigs have been removed during the regularly schedule maintenance period.




Some left in Schuttgart atleast &gt;.&gt; And apparently Gludin too, oopsie.

Also, the Call to Arms description says: "Existing players will benefit too! The highest-level character, that is level 10 or above, on all existing accounts will receive 1 Supply Order (consumable item exchange coupons). (Keep in mind that the "highest-level" condition will take into account your sub-class as well, if you are set to sub-class status. The character you currently have set as your highest character will get the items."

Yet I have 1 Attack order and 1 Defense order, 0 supply orders. Another mistake?

PS. Bonny seems to be missing &gt;.&gt;
Still pigs outside goddard on kain

As of 8/21/07, all cursed pigs have been removed during the regularly schedule maintenance period.




Hmm, pigs are still spawning as before, after todays maintenence.
Well. Whopsi daisy. THey came in like 6 hours late when event first started. They might aswell fail taking them away too ^^ (or left them to compensate for 6 hours).
You forgot to write in the event writeup that the shadow tokens disappear once the event was over :(

Would be cool if they stayed.
shame theres no npcs (at least the spots they were last time) on kain atm to hand them in
Thanks for the info and another great event, I bow in your direction M'Lady.

takes two weeks to identify and give out a stupid hat to the person who "hunted pigs" and "bought" the most apigas? geez =/



They could take a month for all I care as long as they're not given to bots.
Apparently our event gnomes had some problems. No crusty bread for them tonight! (Anyone want to help me flog them? :p)

We'll be having a short maintenance to remedy the event mix-ups and make all well. Sorry for the confusion. (As far as Call to Arms goes, a Supplies Order was meant to go to existing players, but Defense and Attack Orders appeared instead. We're leaving those, and adding a Supplies Order as well.)

Cursed pigs will be removed as they were supposed to. Bonny will be back, as will the Call to Arms event managers.

We'll post again shortly with exact maintenance times (it will be shorter than regular weekly maintenance).

You forgot to write in the event writeup that the shadow tokens disappear once the event was over :(

Would be cool if they stayed.



I will add a note about that. Thank you. :)
Are these the same shadow tokens i got when i did my class change quests? :confused:
Nope, they're not. You didnt get the last Call to Arms coupons?
No, they are typically from what last checked call to arms, much better.

Nope, they're not. You didnt get the last Call to Arms coupons?



To get those you have had to stop playing thats my understanding.
We'll be bringing down all servers for maintenance at 2:00 PM CST today, August 21 to correct correct the event issues. The expected downtime is approximately 30 minutes. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause!

(P.S. Event gnome flogging to ensue at 2:00 PM as well.)
Good, thats enough time for me to go out and get a hamburger.



To get those you have had to stop playing thats my understanding.


Nah Splatty, even on the first time there was coupons for existing players too, just as there's some now. You must have been inactive from the game during that period, since the coupons disappeared after the event and you obviously didnt use them either.
Alyra, Fraps it or it i didn't happen :p

You must have been inactive from the game during that period



But.....

I've never been inactive from the game :o :)
Uhm, inactive as in you didnt log in. Didnt play during a certain period even if your account was active.

Alyra, Fraps it or it i didn't happen :p



I was considering trying my hand at drawing something to that effect, but I can't manage much more than goofy stick figures. :eek:
The most i've gone not playing was maybe a week...... With my account active.

But it's my understanding that a persons account has to go inactive to be given these coupons.
I'm sure Someone there has a digicam or something....

Everyone makes a mad dash down to the servers, techies unaware of the ensueing carnage,

GANKED... that may be amusing.. specially with old batman series "wham" "bam" etc.

Have a good day ;)

BTW is the PTS coming up here soon?

The most i've gone not playing was maybe a week...... With my account active.

But it's my understanding that a persons account has to go inactive to be given these coupons.



From the last Call to Arms Event: "Existing players will benefit too! The highest-level character, that is level 10 or above, on all existing accounts will receive 1 Arms Order (shadow weapon exchange coupon) and 1 Defense Order (shadow armor exchange coupon)."

And believe me, we DID get those coupons. Also, the event lasted for a week and after that the coupons went POOF.

"The event begins on July 3rd after maintenance on all servers, and ends on July 10th" Were you playing during that week, and looked into your WH?
That must have been the problem... my mains warehouse is full. :(

The most i've gone not playing was maybe a week...... With my account active.

But it's my understanding that a persons account has to go inactive to be given these coupons.



There are two sets of coupons that go out to players, Splatter. :) One set goes to inactive accounts that meet the criteria for the event. The second set goes out to existing players, and they appear in the Warehouse. The coupons are deleted from the server after the event. (I'm currently asking whether it's on the day the event ends, or a week later.) So, in theory, if someone never retrieved of used the coupons from their Warehouse, it's possible they might not have realized they were there to begin with.
Thats it, I am calling POTG (People for Ethical Treatment of Gnomes) on you!!! :D

That must have been the problem... my mains warehouse is full. :(



I just asked and that would not have happened. I've been assured that even if a player's warehouse is full, they will receive the event items in their warehouse (it's designed to exceed the limit if need be), but a player will still not be able to deposit more into their full warehouse.
But why are the coupons deleted? It would be really nice to be able to save them to a time where they'd be useful or you'd be prepared to use them.

Thats it, I am calling POTG (People for Ethical Treatment of Gnomes) on you!!! :D



Lol :D I'd better watch my toes tonight.
Well, I got an additional 500 apiga this morning. Thanks for the mix up. :D
This constant posting is not letting me get my hamburger :)
Call PEEOG (People for the Ethical Eating of Gnomes). Thay would care more. Flogging gnomes tenderizes the meat....it would be like filet mignon.
You can use the coupons to pick up the items and then keep the items waiting for that said time.
I was always currious to know if a full WH would prevent users from receiving items.

For example, i never received the C6 souvenier :(

That must have been the problem... my mains warehouse is full. :(



That wouldn't be a problem. They still would appear into your chars warehouse just it would be in the bottom of the list and shown like taht 102/100. I checked mine (the highest char on the account) and both - defense and attack are there :)
Nah, gnomes (like dwarves) are ankle-biters. Dwarves, of course, are also known as knee-cappers for their disturbing tendency to swing heavy, blunt objects at your knees.

But gnomes, at best, can manage a shin. Unless you're really short.
Or they blow you up. Gnomes, time to make yer stand! Bring the blackpowder and fire crystals!

But why are the coupons deleted? It would be really nice to be able to save them to a time where they'd be useful or you'd be prepared to use them.



It's customary to delete event items once the event is over. It's just how we do things around here. :)


I was always currious to know if a full WH would prevent users from receiving items.

For example, i never received the C6 souvenier :(



Did you submit a petition or ticket about this? Usually the GM team can look into this sort of situation for you.
Nooo
I just got on and had no time to sort my last 50 across my chars and had a few pirates Booty left.
If you say its until the 21st then it should run the whole of the 21st, not end half way through.
It's only mid afternoon in the USA, come on, let the day end.


I was always currious to know if a full WH would prevent users from receiving items.

For example, i never received the C6 souvenier :(



Did you submit a petition or ticket about this? Usually the GM team can look into this sort of situation for you.



Actually, there isnt a C6 souvenier. There was one for C5, Interlude(the C6 I think you are referring to) did not have a souvenier.
?

interesting.
Only the piggies are being removed, Fierybint. :) You still have time to move, buy, sell, open, turn in etc. the Apiga and Pirate's Booty.
Fierybint,

Bonny stays around for another week. She'll be back, you still have time to shift things around.

Fierybint,

Bonny stays around for another week. She'll be back, you still have time to shift things around.



Not according to Alyra's post at the top of the thread.

Oops, just read it again. Yep, the 28th. Phew.
I only got like 10 golden apiga so I'm out as far as that goes. Still, great event... I had extremely limited play time but still got some sweet loot, A+ on this one.


Fierybint,

Bonny stays around for another week. She'll be back, you still have time to shift things around.



Not according to Alyra's post at the top of the thread.



It says Bonny is gone on the 28th, which is a week from today.

On 8/28/07, an official Golden Apiga tally will be taken. Once that is done, Bonny the event manager will be removed along with all Apiga, Golden Apiga, and Pirate's Booty. Please make sure you turn in any remaining Apiga and use your Pirate's Booty beforehand! This will take place during the regularly schedule maintenance period.



It is only the 21st. Meaning we have one more week. ;)

It's customary to delete event items once the event is over. It's just how we do things around here.



Actually several event items stick around for quite a while (until there's a chronicle wipe) and the rewards you get always stick around too.

It of course depends on the focus, if the coupons are the rewards, then it would make sense they stayed, but if using them is the event, then yes it makes sense they leave.

But it just makes the event a lot less useful for existing players.



I was always currious to know if a full WH would prevent users from receiving items.

For example, i never received the C6 souvenier :(



Did you submit a petition or ticket about this? Usually the GM team can look into this sort of situation for you.



Actually, there isnt a C6 souvenier. There was one for C5, Interlude(the C6 I think you are referring to) did not have a souvenier.



well i thought something was up... i refer to each chronicle as a Cx (where x is the proceeding number, usually keeps people specially older ones from getting slightly mixed up)..

No c6 souvenier? aww....

a +16 NG weapon would be slick :) (make it exchangable)


Fierybint,

Bonny stays around for another week. She'll be back, you still have time to shift things around.



Not according to Alyra's post at the top of the thread.

Oops, just read it again. Yep, the 28th. Phew.



On 8/28/07, an official Golden Apiga tally will be taken.
Do we get anything for the Golden Apiga we have ?
I hope so.
With a spawn rate of about 1 in 200, we should get some nice items for the Golden Apiga.
I had about 25 across my chars. Not a great deal but many hours of work.
Pweez Alyra, gimme sommat for them :P
we'll see...

but to bad there wasn't an XP bonus given at the end for each piggy killed..

On 8/28/07, an official Golden Apiga tally will be taken.



Dun, dun, dunnnn! Quick! Check the couch for lost Golden Apiga!
Reminds me a comic I found about them and MMO... Here it is (http://www.darklegacycomics.com/66.jpg). Lol.

Anyway I managed to get 5 more golden between the 2 maintenances. Empty servers ftw :D
Servers are up

Reminds me a comic I found about them and MMO... Here it is (http://www.darklegacycomics.com/66.jpg). Lol.

Anyway I managed to get 5 more golden between the 2 maintenances. Empty servers ftw :D



Lol, I love that comic series. That, Order of the Stick, and 8-Bit Theater crack me up.


Reminds me a comic I found about them and MMO... Here it is (http://www.darklegacycomics.com/66.jpg). Lol.

Anyway I managed to get 5 more golden between the 2 maintenances. Empty servers ftw :D



Lol, I love that comic series. That, Order of the Stick, and 8-Bit Theater crack me up.



I'll have to check the other ones, thanks for the info :D

Even if I know what the DL ones are inspried from :p But shhh... Can't tell ^^

Do we get anything for the Golden Apiga we have ?
I hope so.
With a spawn rate of about 1 in 200, we should get some nice items for the Golden Apiga.
I had about 25 across my chars. Not a great deal but many hours of work.
Pweez Alyra, gimme sommat for them :P



I'm afraid that isn't how the event works, although it'd be great if we could give prizes to all who earned Golden Apigas. We'll be giving out First Mate's Hats to the top Golden Apiga holders on each server. The hats are meant to be special and rare, so the number will be limited. The regular Apiga turn-in rewards were meant to be the overall reward for curing the cursed pigs. :)
They are buyable.
Anyway in other threads I explained why they are not special in the sense of competition.

Made a suggestion too but we will have to see how the event team creates a next event wont we?
good thing I didnt buy any of that crap then. This event blew hardcore! But at least NCSoft either through players suggestions or their own good sense (yeah right) made this event totally voluntary.

For the love of god just bring back the Dark Lord events those ones were awesome.

Seriously should have an event where for a month long the epic bosses roam around attacking the cities near them until they are killed and anyone in the cities can be killed. Make all the players that want to use a town have to band together and kill the mobs, thats what the epic mobs where suppose to be for to make everyone band together, instead of the farmers killing the weak ones and everyone ignoring the tough ones.
I still really realy liked the Massive Raid bosses (didn't much care for individual mobs) that spawned just outside each town on a regular 2-4 hour interval.

Would be nice to end up with a pile of Blessed Enchant Armor scrolls.

Would also be nice to prevent people from healing these raid bosses lol....

Those were good times, specially when it took 3-4 parties if not more to bring them down effectively. (high HP, low damage dealing for 40 and under)

We'll be giving out First Mate's Hats to the top Golden Apiga holders on each server. The hats are meant to be special and rare, so the number will be limited.



So, if player Z wants to use Mastercard a bit, he will be the top Holder. You should have made the booty non trade/sell items too.

Personally, I have 100 golden apiga and could buy more, but whats the point when someone prolly bought several thousand of them. No competition, only the size of your adena pouch is the limit(and for some that is endless).
It's somewhat upseting to see someone selling 100,000 booty (i emediately reported them, as seriously even if someone was manning 9 accounts themselves, getting such an insane number would require sleepless nights and several dozen people workingtogether)
Hmm.
I must admit I did enjoy this event regardless of the bots that plagued the pig areas. GMs did some clearance but a far more proactive stance needs to be taken.
As for Golden Apiga being worthless, why not let Bonny decide. Why not let her give a random prize for 5 Golden :P
&lt;&lt; Desparate for more rewards.


We'll be giving out First Mate's Hats to the top Golden Apiga holders on each server. The hats are meant to be special and rare, so the number will be limited.



So, if player Z wants to use Mastercard a bit, he will be the top Holder. You should have made the booty non trade/sell items too.

Personally, I have 100 golden apiga and could buy more, but whats the point when someone prolly bought several thousand of them. No competition, only the size of your adena pouch is the limit(and for some that is endless).



It's "Most money wins". If the pirate booty hadn't been tradable it would have been different. But now this isn't a competition at all. It's just a chance for the botters and the really rich to bedeck themselves in more bling :)
@ _charmille_

A suggestion along those lines has been made loooooong ago. Also the suggesion that event-items should be placed in a "event-inventory" is/was made.

In the end Korea needs to get up to speed in terms of events I guess. As it seems they keep repeating the same "mistakes".

Anyway I am sure the CM forwards the suggestions as usual.
I just hope that some event-dude gets with the program...
I know it has been made many many times, just repeating it for some added effect.

So, if player Z wants to use Mastercard a bit, he will be the top Holder. You should have made the booty non trade/sell items too... No competition, only the size of your adena pouch is the limit(and for some that is endless).




It's "Most money wins". If the pirate booty hadn't been tradable it would have been different. But now this isn't a competition at all.



You are dead wrong, as in life, the one with the most money always wins. If you would just play the game and stop trying to keep up with those with the most Adena you would be happy with what you have. Posting all the time about how unfair it is only displays your belief in a world that is fair. News flash, the world is not fair, the rich get richer and the poor stay that way.

If you are happy with yourself and what you have you wouldn’t worry about the need to compete with the bots and the players that break the EULA using their services.

If you haven’t noticed posting about how bad the bot issue has become has not impeded the bot population. It is naïve to think NCsoft is not aware of the bots and is doing what they want to do about it. Complaining in numerous threads and posting over and over about it is not going to change the reality of life, as was already stated. LIFE IS NOT FAIR.

Apparently our event gnomes had some problems. No crusty bread for them tonight! (Anyone want to help me flog them? :p)

We'll be having a short maintenance to remedy the event mix-ups and make all well. Sorry for the confusion. (As far as Call to Arms goes, a Supplies Order was meant to go to existing players, but Defense and Attack Orders appeared instead. We're leaving those, and adding a Supplies Order as well.)

Cursed pigs will be removed as they were supposed to. Bonny will be back, as will the Call to Arms event managers.

We'll post again shortly with exact maintenance times (it will be shorter than regular weekly maintenance).




Why must it be the gnomes that screw up? I say blame the hamsters!


Do we get anything for the Golden Apiga we have ?
I hope so.
With a spawn rate of about 1 in 200, we should get some nice items for the Golden Apiga.
I had about 25 across my chars. Not a great deal but many hours of work.
Pweez Alyra, gimme sommat for them :P



I'm afraid that isn't how the event works, although it'd be great if we could give prizes to all who earned Golden Apigas. We'll be giving out First Mate's Hats to the top Golden Apiga holders on each server. The hats are meant to be special and rare, so the number will be limited. The regular Apiga turn-in rewards were meant to be the overall reward for curing the cursed pigs. :)



What about giving out one of the Pig Wrangler Caps to everyone who collected over a certain amount of Golden Apiga?

Also, any chance you will post the totals of Golden Apiga that earned the First Mate Hat? I don't care so much about the names, just how much won/lost by. :)


Thats it, I am calling POTG (People for Ethical Treatment of Gnomes) on you!!! :D



Lol :D I'd better watch my toes tonight.



Nevermind your toes... watch your underwear drawer. ;)


So, if player Z wants to use Mastercard a bit, he will be the top Holder. You should have made the booty non trade/sell items too... No competition, only the size of your adena pouch is the limit(and for some that is endless).




It's "Most money wins". If the pirate booty hadn't been tradable it would have been different. But now this isn't a competition at all.



You are dead wrong, as in life, the one with the most money always wins. If you would just play the game and stop trying to keep up with those with the most Adena you would be happy with what you have. Posting all the time about how unfair it is only displays your belief in a world that is fair. News flash, the world is not fair, the rich get richer and the poor stay that way.

If you are happy with yourself and what you have you wouldn&amp;#8217;t worry about the need to compete with the bots and the players that break the EULA using their services.

If you haven&amp;#8217;t noticed posting about how bad the bot issue has become has not impeded the bot population. It is naïve to think NCsoft is not aware of the bots and is doing what they want to do about it. Complaining in numerous threads and posting over and over about it is not going to change the reality of life, as was already stated. LIFE IS NOT FAIR.



The "life is not fair" argument is so lame. You can't even use that in a real life situation. (So starving children shouldn't complain because "life is not fair?" Omg...)

Have you've never heard of a fair competition? Do you watch sports? And do you honestly believe that the only way to win a competition is through money? Sounds to me like you're just trying to defend the cheaters.



Do we get anything for the Golden Apiga we have ?
I hope so.
With a spawn rate of about 1 in 200, we should get some nice items for the Golden Apiga.
I had about 25 across my chars. Not a great deal but many hours of work.
Pweez Alyra, gimme sommat for them :P



I'm afraid that isn't how the event works, although it'd be great if we could give prizes to all who earned Golden Apigas. We'll be giving out First Mate's Hats to the top Golden Apiga holders on each server. The hats are meant to be special and rare, so the number will be limited. The regular Apiga turn-in rewards were meant to be the overall reward for curing the cursed pigs. :)



What about giving out one of the Pig Wrangler Caps to everyone who collected over a certain amount of Golden Apiga?

Also, any chance you will post the totals of Golden Apiga that earned the First Mate Hat? I don't care so much about the names, just how much won/lost by. :)



I hope they dont give everyone pig caps...I have been selling my booty to buy more apiga for a chance to get my pig cap...if I could have gotten one by saving my booty I will be mad.
so let me understand this only people who played and inactived their accounts from 5/01/05 - 12/31/05 are having their accounts turned back on right?


We'll be giving out First Mate's Hats to the top Golden Apiga holders on each server. The hats are meant to be special and rare, so the number will be limited.



So, if player Z wants to use Mastercard a bit, he will be the top Holder. You should have made the booty non trade/sell items too.

Personally, I have 100 golden apiga and could buy more, but whats the point when someone prolly bought several thousand of them. No competition, only the size of your adena pouch is the limit(and for some that is endless).



/agree ... I've got 220 but like you said, those that chose to buy the pirate booty rather than hunt the golden pigs will win the **** hats.


Do we get anything for the Golden Apiga we have ?
I hope so.
With a spawn rate of about 1 in 200, we should get some nice items for the Golden Apiga.
I had about 25 across my chars. Not a great deal but many hours of work.
Pweez Alyra, gimme sommat for them :P



I'm afraid that isn't how the event works, although it'd be great if we could give prizes to all who earned Golden Apigas. We'll be giving out First Mate's Hats to the top Golden Apiga holders on each server. The hats are meant to be special and rare, so the number will be limited. The regular Apiga turn-in rewards were meant to be the overall reward for curing the cursed pigs. :)



so i wasted about a weeks worth of time killing gold pigs that spawned every 10mins. awsome.
no armor bonus again mmhh /delete o.O



Do we get anything for the Golden Apiga we have ?
I hope so.
With a spawn rate of about 1 in 200, we should get some nice items for the Golden Apiga.
I had about 25 across my chars. Not a great deal but many hours of work.
Pweez Alyra, gimme sommat for them :P



I'm afraid that isn't how the event works, although it'd be great if we could give prizes to all who earned Golden Apigas. We'll be giving out First Mate's Hats to the top Golden Apiga holders on each server. The hats are meant to be special and rare, so the number will be limited. The regular Apiga turn-in rewards were meant to be the overall reward for curing the cursed pigs. :)



so i wasted about a weeks worth of time killing gold pigs that spawned every 10mins. awsome.



Spawned every 10 minutes if you were lucky. Busted my butt and collected 220... didn't buy any pirate booty... and for what... zilch. We all know who the top golden apiga holders will be. The prize goes to the **** farmers and those that just buy the **** things. GG NCsoft.

The "life is not fair" argument is so lame. You can't even use that in a real life situation. (So starving children shouldn't complain because "life is not fair?" Omg...)

Have you've never heard of a fair competition? Do you watch sports? And do you honestly believe that the only way to win a competition is through money? Sounds to me like you're just trying to defend the cheaters.


My point is not defending anyone, apparently went over your head, it is referring to posting about the bots and how unfair they make the game. EVERYONE knows the bot issue, EVERYONE knows they grind out the events, everyone knows it is against the EULA. So, stop whining about it all the time. NCsoft says they are working on it, let it be already.

Just because I am tired of all the whining about the bots does no mean I approve of breaking the EULA. Just tired of all the complaints about how you can’t enjoy the game unless you play for 12 hours or use bot services. Not one of my post do I defend the cheaters and your feeble attack on my character with this statement is childish.
So... now you tell us. Basically it means i got 70 golden apiga that i should just put in the trash bin?

If i had been told that earlier i'd never opened the bootys in first place. GG... the one with most adena gets the only price for the gold apigas
So on the same vein would people be griping if the booty was not tradeable and the person that just played the most won the prize? (assuming a bot-less win here, for arguments sake)

In other words if you have a job like me and couldn't play 24/7 almost to win the prize but your friend the bum could, would people get ****** because only bums could win the hat?
Yes, they would.

They would even complain if anyone who had any golden apiga at all got the hat, because then it would not be unique anymore. x.x

Yes, they would.

They would even complain if anyone who had any golden apiga at all got the hat, because then it would not be unique anymore. x.x



i spent a week getting enough gold coins thinking i might get something. now i guess i wont. i should of sold the chest to the "unlimited" adena players. and accually gotten something i could use for my time.




I was always currious to know if a full WH would prevent users from receiving items.

For example, i never received the C6 souvenier :(



Did you submit a petition or ticket about this? Usually the GM team can look into this sort of situation for you.



Actually, there isnt a C6 souvenier. There was one for C5, Interlude(the C6 I think you are referring to) did not have a souvenier.



well i thought something was up... i refer to each chronicle as a Cx (where x is the proceeding number, usually keeps people specially older ones from getting slightly mixed up)..

No c6 souvenier? aww....

a +16 NG weapon would be slick :) (make it exchangable)



god **** dude, did you not even read what the salvation bow says?

Seriously!

Well they must of changed the text....

Zankens cursed event souvenir item.

Aka: interlude chrono. (the bow chrono that every one wanted so badly)

Question for ya alyra: when CT1 comes out, will you guys beabe to let us keep out bows from this event. or do you plan to delete them. I'd sure wish you'd guy fix that error so we can stock up past event items with new event items.
gonna give us those armor bonusses on shadow armors next time ? =p


My point is not defending anyone, apparently went over your head, it is referring to posting about the bots and how unfair they make the game. EVERYONE knows the bot issue, EVERYONE knows they grind out the events, everyone knows it is against the EULA. So, stop whining about it all the time. NCsoft says they are working on it, let it be already.

Just because I am tired of all the whining about the bots does no mean I approve of breaking the EULA. Just tired of all the complaints about how you can&amp;#8217;t enjoy the game unless you play for 12 hours or use bot services. Not one of my post do I defend the cheaters and your feeble attack on my character with this statement is childish.



...Maybe you shouldn't use feeble arguments like that then. And maybe you shouldn't have quoted my post. I wasn't even talking about the bots and "how unfair they make the game". I was commenting on the way the event is set up so that you can buy/bot yourself into a winning position. It would have been easy to prevent this by making the competition items non-tradable. How you managed to turn that around to whining about botting in general I dont know. Seems like you are obsessed with the botting issue yourself...

And btw, it's just as tiresome to hear someone "whining" about having to hear other people's complaints. It's not you that we are trying to adress our valid complaints to. And we couldn't care less if you're tired hearing them. You don't have to read if you dont want to. Simple as that. We are paying customers and have a right to voice our concerns to NCsoft.

So on the same vein would people be griping if the booty was not tradeable and the person that just played the most won the prize? (assuming a bot-less win here, for arguments sake)

In other words if you have a job like me and couldn't play 24/7 almost to win the prize but your friend the bum could, would people get ****** because only bums could win the hat?




either way the botters could just have their other 8 accounts "hunting" and them just picking up all the golden apiga over 24 hour periods hunting 2 with him at a time or something either way, no legit player owuld win

Question for ya alyra: when CT1 comes out, will you guys beabe to let us keep out bows from this event. or do you plan to delete them. I'd sure wish you'd guy fix that error so we can stock up past event items with new event items.



I'll ask. :)

As of today, August 21st, Zaken's Curse (http://lineage2.com/archive/2007/07/zakens_curse.html) has "ended" and the second wave of Call to Arms (http://lineage2.com/archive/2007/08/call_to_arms_re.html) has begun! We hope you all had a great time curing the cursed pigs! We will be putting up an official poll for Zaken's Curse within the next few weeks, but first we have a few details about the event that we'd like to share.

<ul type="square">As of 8/21/07, all cursed pigs have been removed during the regularly schedule maintenance period.

On 8/28/07, an official Golden Apiga tally will be taken. Once that is done, Bonny the event manager will be removed along with all Apiga, Golden Apiga, and Pirate's Booty. Please make sure you turn in any remaining Apiga and use your Pirate's Booty beforehand! This will take place during the regularly schedule maintenance period.

On 9/4/07, we will be handing out the First Mate's Hat to the top Golden Apiga holders on each server. This will happen during the regularly schedule maintenance period.



This event was for the bots; they found away around the fact that you couldn't get more than three bows. Did you see all the bots killing the pigs with no bows?

The top Gold Turn In Wins +++ Bots FTW..... Great Job NCSoft.


Question for ya alyra: when CT1 comes out, will you guys beabe to let us keep out bows from this event. or do you plan to delete them. I'd sure wish you'd guy fix that error so we can stock up past event items with new event items.



I'll ask. :)



Make sure they know we think they're messed up in the head if they don't let us keep the "salvation" bow, since it's labelled a souvenier.

I would also like to see the bonuses on the shadow weapons and armor. It makes sense, if you are thinking "Wow, I have tallum but I'd like to try out majestic.." the shadows really don't do any good if they don't come with the bonuses.

Do you lose the ability to equip the shadows while red? I think you should, if you don't.
Can I make a suggestion? Next time you have similar competition event why not make the items drop directly into the player's quest inventory. That way you can't trade or sell or do anything with them (except delete them).

Can I make a suggestion? Next time you have similar competition event why not make the items drop directly into the player's quest inventory. That way you can't trade or sell or do anything with them (except delete them).




No (http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&amp;Board=general&amp;Number=940014&amp;pag e=0&amp;fpart=all)

Better to ask for a separate event-item inventory which has the same non-trade/drop restrictions as the quest items inventory.
Ferslicious: I asked about the Salvation Bow, and was told that we have no plans to remove it.


Question for ya alyra: when CT1 comes out, will you guys beabe to let us keep out bows from this event. or do you plan to delete them. I'd sure wish you'd guy fix that error so we can stock up past event items with new event items.



I'll ask. :)



That is REALLY gonna suck if they take them away from us come CT1. Why even bother doing these **** events then.


No (http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&amp;Board=general&amp;Number=940014&amp;pag e=0&amp;fpart=all)



Better to ask for a separate event-item inventory which has the same non-trade/drop restrictions as the quest items inventory.



Yes, that would be better if it was possible. But it would also take more coding and additional graphical elements. My suggestion is just matter of changing where the items end up. It could possibly be done by the NA team alone.
Glad they are gonna let us keep them....and Sharlanna has good post timing.
yeah, oops, post 2 you can delete this.
Triple posts take skill....althoguh you can delete this too.



Question for ya alyra: when CT1 comes out, will you guys beabe to let us keep out bows from this event. or do you plan to delete them. I'd sure wish you'd guy fix that error so we can stock up past event items with new event items.



I'll ask. :)



That is REALLY gonna suck if they take them away from us come CT1. Why even bother doing these **** events then.



Hopefully we won't have to worry about that. I still have my santa hat from last xmas and we've had the Interlude update since then :)

Ferslicious: I asked about the Salvation Bow, and was told that we have no plans to remove it.



Just to give you a heads up Alyra posts like that get yah in trouble. Let me revise it....

I asked about the Salvation Bow, and was told that we have no plans to remove it. At this time.... :)
I've had empty space in the warehouse yet the tokens were never added to my inventory on any alt over 3 a/c.
events like this should be "adjusted".

the toon who kills get it .. no trade/drop/sell/whatever...

hmmmm, EVERY "collect event" should be like that !!

in the last years it was every event the same.. cheaters win, all others lose :(
(kk, the "all other" were just a few peps but dont they count??)

bit annoying to see in every event after a short time botzor shops with 20k 30k 50k event items, even with very lousy droprates...

u want a community that pay for l2.... or farmers ?^^



Do we get anything for the Golden Apiga we have ?
I hope so.
With a spawn rate of about 1 in 200, we should get some nice items for the Golden Apiga.
I had about 25 across my chars. Not a great deal but many hours of work.
Pweez Alyra, gimme sommat for them :P



I'm afraid that isn't how the event works, although it'd be great if we could give prizes to all who earned Golden Apigas. We'll be giving out First Mate's Hats to the top Golden Apiga holders on each server. The hats are meant to be special and rare, so the number will be limited. The regular Apiga turn-in rewards were meant to be the overall reward for curing the cursed pigs. :)



so i wasted about a weeks worth of time killing gold pigs that spawned every 10mins. awsome.



this turns a good event into the worst event ever. what a waste of time. youd think we'd get something for the gold pigs.
xiaobaby02 will win on every server and sell the hat for 100m+
now the question you should be asking is, did ncsoft forsee this outcome? why dont they tell us the truth and say we have no control over events, they come with patches from korea.
I would like to point out that all my event items say to go to: Strategist Lucien.

Not to Looney the Cat, which is the name of the event guy for this event.
Oranj2,

It is my opinion that any event created with "competition oriented rewards" is a wast of time per default if the way to obtain those rewards have an element of tradable / dropable event-items in it...

I know, I know...

I am preaching to the void.
I wouldn't say this is the worst event. Everyone had a chance to get something good - and I did in fact get some nice stuff, and I had fun participating.
But I don't like the fact that the bootys are tradable (but not freightable ? Looks like they meant to do it the other way around). But I'm not losing sleep over it. I just think it's a shame.
Yeah basically it's just a shame for me as well.

I can understand the frusration of players who actually focused on getting gold pigs though. When I saw a gold pig I killed it, I wasn't actively hunting for just them.

BTW I have like 6 salvation bows but didn't get a single piece of headgear x_x

Yes, they would.

They would even complain if anyone who had any golden apiga at all got the hat, because then it would not be unique anymore. x.x



Not me.

I only evaluate my utility based on whether or not I like how the item looks and performs, not on whether or not it is unique. Obviously then I am incredibly upset when NC pulls the sort of stunt where they make a reward only for the people who get exceptionally lucky or who happen to be able to play more tham me because they have fewer or no real life commitements.
I've been playin for quite a while, not much of a poster, but when i do post, it's usually long &gt;.&gt; But anyways i gotta say, that the salvation bow is by far the coolest thing in my inventory, u can shoot ppl!!!!! AND IN TOWN!!!! :)
LoL

WTS 5 Salvation Bows, Erica. PM me
It's funny - when you shoot someone who's flagged/red with "happiness", you flag. :) Same if you shoot mobs ^^
WIll I get get the coupon if my 1st char just on another server just leveled up to lvl 10 during the event week? I'm just leveled to 10 last night and check Warehouse and i have no coupon? So all that leveling to lvl 10 was a waist??


Existing players will benefit too! The highest-level character, that is level 10 or above, on all existing accounts will receive 1 Arms Order (shadow weapon exchange coupon) and 1 Defense Order (shadow armor exchange coupon)."


Probably not. You'd have to make it before they handed out the coupons.
Alyra,

I have searched all of the posts about golden apiga. Can you please go into just a little more detail about how you guys are counting? I am under the assumption now your going to basically do inventory count right? I am just worried bc i busted me bum hard to get all i got and would be highly upset if mine were lost or something. Also, why is it taking 2 weeks after an event to actually get the prizes?

Call to arms---- My second account has been inactive for like 4 months now and it isnt back up.... Then i read again and it says account inactive as of date 12-2005.... Maybe i am just an over thinker but why would you reactivate account that hasn't been up for almost 2 years? And at such a time when "fhsdkjsk" is so bad? Not really gonna bring people back if that is why they left.
Now that the pig event is really over, can we know how many first mate hat were given, to who and how many golden apigas they had?

Cause I had 270 Golden Apigas before the server were down, and now I have no hat, I'm kinda bummed :(

Now that the pig event is really over, can we know how many first mate hat were given, to who and how many golden apigas they had?

Cause I had 270 Golden Apigas before the server were down, and now I have no hat, I'm kinda bummed :(



You have to wait another week before the hats are handed out. Apparently they are counting the apigas by hand ;)
oh I see :o

There is still hope then!
I worked hard for my 5 Golden Apiga. Do I at least get a keychain? :p
I almost got a heart attack when I saw my 110 goldens vanished...Thank you GM for answering my petition with a spot on answer ;)

I'm pretty sure it's not enough those 110 but...If there are no keychains, can we get a pin please?
Rawr! i didn't get to open the rest of my chests.
the hats aren't being given out until next week. And i know someone on lionna that had over 1000.
Over 1000 OO man...I know I was hooked but I couldn't possible stand hunting THAT long LOL...Gratz

Over 1000 OO man...I know I was hooked but I couldn't possible stand hunting THAT long LOL...Gratz



Did he get them by hunting though? :)
Meh.... yeah, though I like my circlet, it has no benefits or stats (and I'm *not* keen on the fact that it changes my hairstyle when I'm wearing it! I *like* my braids, dammit!)... there should be prizes for anyone who earned golden apiga.

Easy fix for next time: Pirate Booty = Quest Item = Turned in to Bonnie (who holds the Golden Pig Key) = creates Quest Item Golden Apiga + Chance for other minor reward.

Basically, when we get this event the next time around, when you kill a Gold Pig, you get a Pirate Booty in your quest inventory. You turn that into Bonnie and get a Golden Apiga in its place. You also turn in your regular Apiga for her normal rewards.

At the end of the event, the player with the highest number of Golden Apiga gets the hat, everyone else gets something else, based on the number of Golden Apiga they've collected (perhaps in 100-Golden Apiga tiers, so something for 1-100, something better for 101-200, etc., up to the maximum number of Golden Apiga possible, which is based on the spawns of a single area)

You have to wait another week before the hats are handed out. Apparently they are counting the apigas by hand ;)



And I hear some of them had chads so it's hard to tell whether it was a golden apiga or regular apiga.


You have to wait another week before the hats are handed out. Apparently they are counting the apigas by hand ;)



And I hear some of them had chads so it's hard to tell whether it was a golden apiga or regular apiga.



LOL

+1 for Dated Humor...
Are the hats being given today? I hope I get one but doubtful.
Ya, they're given out today. To the few guys who spent 200mil to buy booty I imagine.
Or depending on the server the farmers might end up with one XD some farmers have their own clans...
So, anyone got one? Did they pop in inv or WH?
I got one! :eek: I totally didn't expect that. It was put in wh.
I got one to with only 40 gold apigas that I gathered my self :)
I didn't buy any either - and I even made a nice profit selling 20 bootys in the beginning. Double win for me :p
I'd have a bad taste in my mouth if I'd spent millions buying booty.
I only had 26 so I guess I hunted pigs for nothing because no item in my WH :(
Well I hope you didn't expect to win something with only 26 when the winner was supposed to be the person that collected the MOST on each entire server.

I think I got maybe 10 tops.
got the first mate hat but it aint tradeable and got it on another acct =( i had only like 43 golden apiga's orsomething or 23 not sure =p
Wow this sucks, I had 1200+ Golden Apiga... but there are several people all over the server with the hat... Is this how it is supposed to be?
lol @ ppl that bought the bootys o.O
i got the Commodore's Hat, is that the top hat or did they also give out the Zaken Pirate Hat?
Hoho, I sold some at first too and still got a hat ^^

Poor poor buyers.
lol, well you'd figure that if someone had 300m to spend on a hat... that they might have at least a few bil/
They should have done something for the person with the most at least.

i got the Commodore's Hat, is that the top hat or did they also give out the Zaken Pirate Hat?



Screenshot? And how many goldens did you have?
NOOOooooo....I cant believe this! I got the hat but it's NOT tradable or freightable! And now it's stuck on a character I hardly use. I want the hat on my main :(

Couldn't you have given us this VERY important piece of information before the event ended? I would have opened the booty's on my main then X.X

Could you please PLEASE consider making the item freightable? Or at least let us request a movement of the hat to another char?

I'm so sad that I'm even prepared to try /gm now T.T
Im pretty sure they did give us that info :eek: At least I knew it, and opened all the bootys on the char I wanted the hat on.
But I do think they should make the hat freightable at least.
ya its purple with gold trim and a little red strip on each side
arg arg me dorf got a hat.
and I only had to collect 62 golden apigas dirung the event so a big loool to those who bought a ton of bootys
Got hat for 107 apigas :P

Im pretty sure they did give us that info :eek: At least I knew it, and opened all the bootys on the char I wanted the hat on.
But I do think they should make the hat freightable at least.



...And I'm pretty sure that they did not give us that info. I would most certainly have noticed it. Also, I just read all of Alyra's posts and the official information...There is nothing about limiting the use of the hat to one character only. The worst thing is that my hat is on a character I've used for item storage and plan to delete to make room for a Kamael. I love the hat but he's got to go no matter what :(


Im pretty sure they did give us that info :eek: At least I knew it, and opened all the bootys on the char I wanted the hat on.
But I do think they should make the hat freightable at least.



...And I'm pretty sure that they did not give us that info. I would most certainly have noticed it. Also, I just read all of Alyra's posts and the official information...There is nothing about limiting the use of the hat to one character only. The worst thing is that my hat is on a character I've used for item storage and plan to delete to make room for a Kamael. I love the hat but he's got to go no matter what :(

your first clue should have been that the golden apigas werent tradeable. this alone should have told you that the item you were about to receive (if any) would also be non tradeable.
I wish they would have been CLEAR and said what you needed to get one. I have at least 10 people on bartz with one, so it's obviously not the ONE PER SERVER like they said. Seems to be 1 of each class that got one. I wish I knew that before I deleted them since I knew I wouldn't have got one with their rules (LOL1PERSERVER)
Ahem, Alyra said at one point that they're giving out more than 1 per server.
I was pleasantly surprised to find a hat. :D
I had about 180ish even though I sold about 50 to someone else. I'm happy now. Camping far away places for golden oinkers worked out and even lost some sleep during the weekend.
Wheeeeeeee! TY NC!
Wish the darn thing was exchangeable. I got one but it's on my other account.

Alyra, any chance of making this happen?

I wish they would have been CLEAR and said what you needed to get one. I have at least 10 people on bartz with one, so it's obviously not the ONE PER SERVER like they said. Seems to be 1 of each class that got one. I wish I knew that before I deleted them since I knew I wouldn't have got one with their rules (LOL1PERSERVER)



Quote Alyra from the Zaken's curse thread (while the event was running):

"I'm not at liberty to share the exact numbers of how many First Mate's Hats we'll be awarding per server yet, but I can say that it'll be a lot more than just one. (And we will be checking each account to make sure none of the you-know-who's count as winners.)"

(emphasis on "a lot" by Alyra herself)
Yay got a hat on my paladin too.
I think i had about 50 golden apigas.
Well i did not got any other event items but this makes up for all trouble.
Big thanks.
I have to say big thanks Nsoft !
I was extremely happy and exited when I found the hat in my WH today, even I wasn't expecting to get one. After all I had only 53 golden apigas.
Thank you , Thank you very much !
You made my day!
.. Omg how happy I am .... :)

i got the Commodore's Hat, is that the top hat or did they also give out the Zaken Pirate Hat?



hey can u please post a pic of that hat ?


P.S: nvm looks the same as the first mate's hat :)



Im pretty sure they did give us that info :eek: At least I knew it, and opened all the bootys on the char I wanted the hat on.
But I do think they should make the hat freightable at least.



...And I'm pretty sure that they did not give us that info. I would most certainly have noticed it. Also, I just read all of Alyra's posts and the official information...There is nothing about limiting the use of the hat to one character only. The worst thing is that my hat is on a character I've used for item storage and plan to delete to make room for a Kamael. I love the hat but he's got to go no matter what :(

your first clue should have been that the golden apigas werent tradeable. this alone should have told you that the item you were about to receive (if any) would also be non tradeable.



Oh please. You really think we're supposed to guess something as important as that from a "clue"? An obscure clue considering the pirate booty was tradable. A stupid clue considering you only get the clue after the fact when it's too late.

Consider this scenario:
/openbooty
"What the...the description says I can't I trade or drop the golden apiga??" "Eureka! It's a clue! It's a clue!! It's non tradable and it must be a clue that the hat will be non tradable too! But it doesn't matter because I want to keep the hat! Alright! I got it! Way to go!
/freight apiga
"But what is this...I can't freight my golden apiga either... Eureka! it's another clue! The hat won't be freightable either! I need to... oh wait...there's nothing I can do then... is there...?
/goemo
NOooo! NOOoooooooo! I'm screeeeewed! "
/slitwrist




Im pretty sure they did give us that info :eek: At least I knew it, and opened all the bootys on the char I wanted the hat on.
But I do think they should make the hat freightable at least.



...And I'm pretty sure that they did not give us that info. I would most certainly have noticed it. Also, I just read all of Alyra's posts and the official information...There is nothing about limiting the use of the hat to one character only. The worst thing is that my hat is on a character I've used for item storage and plan to delete to make room for a Kamael. I love the hat but he's got to go no matter what :(

your first clue should have been that the golden apigas werent tradeable. this alone should have told you that the item you were about to receive (if any) would also be non tradeable.



Oh please. You really think we're supposed to guess something as important as that from a "clue"? An obscure clue considering the pirate booty was tradable. A stupid clue considering you only get the clue after the fact when it's too late.

Consider this scenario:
/openbooty
"What the...the description says I can't I trade or drop the golden apiga??" "Eureka! It's a clue! It's a clue!! It's non tradable and it must be a clue that the hat will be non tradable too! But it doesn't matter because I want to keep the hat! Alright! I got it! Way to go!
/freight apiga
"But what is this...I can't freight my golden apiga either... Eureka! it's another clue! The hat won't be freightable either! I need to... oh wait...there's nothing I can do then... is there...?
/goemo
NOooo! NOOoooooooo! I'm screeeeewed! "
/slitwrist



/agree

It wasn't stated anywhere that the First Mate's Hat wouldn't be exchangeable, freighted etc. Should be able to do whatever you want with the thing once you've received it.


It wasn't stated anywhere that the First Mate's Hat wouldn't be exchangeable, freighted etc. Should be able to do whatever you want with the thing once you've received it.



Not tradeable makes sense, but I would think one should be able to frieght it to another character they would prefer wearing it. Doesn't really matter to me, but that's my 2-cents.

-Bam
I got one too, ty Nc Soft. I think I had about 132 golden apiga.

I just wanted to put it on another character of mine =/

Oh well, still happy I received one :)
Alyra , if you're reading this, would you please consider suggesting to the dev team that they make the event reward freightable between characters on the same account? So that we can put the hat on our mains?

I don't think it would take more than the flip of a switch variable, from "no" to "yes", in the reward hat object. It should be very easy to change this and it would make a lot of reward winners happy. I hope you're reading this. Thanks.
haha guess that means i got one too
GJ opening all the booty on my shopper dorf :/
^^ i got 68 golden apigas and i have "First Mates Hat" :)
Thank You wery much for rewarding event!
I got it too ^^ with 60 Golden

A friend got it also with ~38 Golden
lol I wonder how many lvl 1 dwarfs got the first mate hat with names like j2j2j3robb2323j, too bad they dont transfer off that char.

Good job to all the j2j2j3robb2323j's out there.
I was lucky and got the hat but I wish they would give more information about how these events will work upfront. It really wouldn't hurt a thing :P I think people who bought a lot of booty will be sad and those who sold their booty thinking they wouldn't have a chance to win anything will be sad too :( Someone said there was a person on Gustin who had over 4k Golden Apiga, so how can anyone think they might win the hat with only 40 or so :/

and Alyra if there is any hope that these can be made freightable (only fair since it wasn't mentioned that it would be non-tradable) then please also have the Devs also make the Call to Arms Shadow items and chests freightable to the toons on the same account. There was no advance notice of this last Call to Arms so I was on my sub and the coupons went to another toon who didnt need them at all :confused: Here's hoping..... :eek:

edit: I have to say I really did like the pig event and I'm loving the Heavy Medal event and getting xp while hunting medals :)
I am a bit confused by all these "omg I have the hat on my shopping dwarf and not on my main" complaints. Yes, I do not think they specifically said that they would put the hat in the wh of the character who held the golden apigas, but wasn't that kind of obvious? And since the golden apiga were not tradable, I suspected that the hat would not be tradable, either (I cannot find it right now, but I am also pretty sure this was mentioned somewhere). So I made **** sure to have all the golden apiga on my main. I'm not saying people were stupid, I am just wondering because it seemed so obvious to me that I had to keep the golden apiga on my main.
varaya is right - i hade same intuition.
I am also very sure that Alyra has mentioned that there will be more hats than one per server and that the hat won't be tradable.

I think the part about tradable was mentioned in a thread that got deleted because it was about our 24/7 apiga hunters.

I am a bit confused by all these "omg I have the hat on my shopping dwarf and not on my main" complaints. Yes, I do not think they specifically said that they would put the hat in the wh of the character who held the golden apigas, but wasn't that kind of obvious? And since the golden apiga were not tradable, I suspected that the hat would not be tradable, either (I cannot find it right now, but I am also pretty sure this was mentioned somewhere). So I made **** sure to have all the golden apiga on my main. I'm not saying people were stupid, I am just wondering because it seemed so obvious to me that I had to keep the golden apiga on my main.



I hate to repeat myself but...No, it was NOT mentioned anywhere in any official statement or by any GM. Maybe you got this very important piece of information from Blah or from some other player.

I don't understand why some people don't seem to understand the problem. I'm going to try explain it simply. We're not asking for tradable. We're asking for freightable. It is NOT the same thing. You don't use /trade to move items between characters on the same account. You use the freight system.

And yes, the golden apiga is not freightable either but there's nothing that immediately suggests that it isn't. You have to try to freight the golden apigas discover that they are not freightable. There's no clue given before you discover this fact by trying to freight them and at that point it's an irretrivable situation. The golden apigas are stuck where they are.
Sure it seems like not too much trouble to make the hats freight-worthy. But they'd have to hire a NA dev, then. :p

Grats to those that got 'em!


I am a bit confused by all these "omg I have the hat on my shopping dwarf and not on my main" complaints. Yes, I do not think they specifically said that they would put the hat in the wh of the character who held the golden apigas, but wasn't that kind of obvious? And since the golden apiga were not tradable, I suspected that the hat would not be tradable, either (I cannot find it right now, but I am also pretty sure this was mentioned somewhere). So I made **** sure to have all the golden apiga on my main. I'm not saying people were stupid, I am just wondering because it seemed so obvious to me that I had to keep the golden apiga on my main.



I hate to repeat myself but...No, it was NOT mentioned anywhere in any official statement or by any GM. Maybe you got this very important piece of information from Blah or from some other player.

I don't understand why some people don't seem to understand the problem. I'm going to try explain it simply. We're not asking for tradable. We're asking for freightable. It is NOT the same thing. You don't use /trade to move items between characters on the same account. You use the freight system.

And yes, the golden apiga is not freightable either but there's nothing that immediately suggests that it isn't. You have to try to freight the golden apigas discover that they are not freightable. There's no clue given before you discover this fact by trying to freight them and at that point it's an irretrivable situation. The golden apigas are stuck where they are.



Well for me it was clear to do the event with the char i want the hat on. I did not espect to get one but just for the case.
If i recall right the last competition item "evas mask" from the fishing event was not trade-/drop-/freightable too.

I think competion items where only the best gets one should stay like this. That makes them uniqe.
Also you can not expect that rewards are always tradeable, you always have to expect the worst.
I dont see a problem with it. If you want to be sure to get the reward on a special toon do the event with him.
If you dont do you screwed yourself.
OMG I actually won one of the hats :O TY TY TY!!!!

And I agree with your point redscavenger.

And I agree with your point redscavenger.



...I'm not even sure he has a point. If so, what is it?

1. That it was clear to him "to do the event on the char he wanted the hat on".
Why was it clear? Without an explanation this is just a statement and no point or argument.
2. That "You always have to expect the worst".
From NCsoft? From playing Lineage? Sorry, but why do I have to do that? No real argument here either.
3. That it should stay like this because it makes item more unique.
Huh? o.O There won't be more items because you can freight it? Will there?
4. That Eva's mask was a non trade/freight/drop item.
Back then it was clearly stated in event advert that Eva's mask would be non tradable. Considering that the same was not stated in the event advert this time around it seems to suggest... well you should get my point.

None of these statements hold much logic or is a clear argument for a "point". But let's not forget... that if we want the hat on a special toon we should do the event on him or we are screwing ourselves. Yes, brilliant observation there... I feel screwed alright. But not by myself :)
wtd mine is purpule and i got like 360
To those who ended up getting a First Mate's Hat on a character they did not intend it to wind up on: I've spoken with the head of our GM team, and we're looking into how we can get the hat on the character you wanted it to be on. I'll post tomorrow once I have a chance to follow up with him. :)
I WANT A GREEN ONE!

To those who ended up getting a First Mate's Hat on a character they did not intend it to wind up on: I've spoken with the head of our GM team, and we're looking into how we can get the hat on the character you wanted it to be on. I'll post tomorrow once I have a chance to follow up with him. :)



HOORAY! Alyra to the rescue!! We need to get you a cape or somethin' :P


And I agree with your point redscavenger.



...I'm not even sure he has a point. If so, what is it?

1. That it was clear to him "to do the event on the char he wanted the hat on".
Why was it clear? Without an explanation this is just a statement and no point or argument.



Because the golden apigas are/where not tradeable.
If i want the hat on a special char i have to be sure he has the golden apigas. Dont know what is to hard to understand that. Try to think ahead.



2. That "You always have to expect the worst".
From NCsoft? From playing Lineage? Sorry, but why do I have to do that? No real argument here either.



Because u know there are some items in game that are not trade/freightable. Like the white mask or the evas mask.
So the worst case could be the event reward will not be tradeable/ freightable too. It did happen already in the past and ppl make mistakes and forget to write that the hat is not trade/freightable. Again try to think forward.



3. That it should stay like this because it makes item more unique.
Huh? o.O There won't be more items because you can freight it? Will there?



Of course not more items but the character gets more uniqe.



4. That Eva's mask was a non trade/freight/drop item.
Back then it was clearly stated in event advert that Eva's mask would be non tradable. Considering that the same was not stated in the event advert this time around it seems to suggest... well you should get my point.



Yeah maybe they forgot that to put in but afaik all competion reward items where like this.



None of these statements hold much logic or is a clear argument for a "point".



Because u fail to see it ? Lack of thinking ?
Dont know. Sure the hat could be freightable but it is not.
I think its because only characters that won the event should wear the reward.


But let's not forget... that if we want the hat on a special toon we should do the event on him or we are screwing ourselves. Yes, brilliant observation there... I feel screwed alright. But not by myself :)



Well if u did the event with the toon you want the hat on and maybe also bought more bootys with hat one you would have received it on that character and not some other.
Basicly its your own fault.
That the hat is not freight-/trade-/dropable and it was not mentoned is just a lame excuse because u failed in 1st place.
Well my main has really bad luck and i will never let it open any more booty or enchant or even fish lol.My 1st 10 booty i opened was empty and they were selling at the time for 500k (still kicking myself)
I did play on my main but after a couple of days i went back to grinding and didnt want run back to kill pigs so my alt took over. And by the way the alt got the EWA's and top lvl 76ls and hes a better fisherman to lol.
so let them freight it

Well my main has really bad luck and i will never let it open any more booty or enchant or even fish lol.My 1st 10 booty i opened was empty and they were selling at the time for 500k (still kicking myself)
I did play on my main but after a couple of days i went back to grinding and didnt want run back to kill pigs so my alt took over. And by the way the alt got the EWA's and top lvl 76ls and hes a better fisherman to lol.
so let them freight it



Well its not that i didnt turn in normal apigas with alts too. The buffs where to good to be wasted.
Anyway its still no excuse that he did open the bootys on the wrong char. I also had 11-13 empty bootys thats just bad luck.
I also dont say anything against the hat being freightable only the complain that they not freightable and now the hat is on the wrong toon.
The problem is not the hat beeing not freightable its the ppl that did use the wrong char to open the bootys.

To those who ended up getting a First Mate's Hat on a character they did not intend it to wind up on: I've spoken with the head of our GM team, and we're looking into how we can get the hat on the character you wanted it to be on. I'll post tomorrow once I have a chance to follow up with him. :)



Alyra , thank you so much! Even it should prove impossible to move them I'm still really grateful that you're trying to help us :)
That's awesome, thank you.
(I do not have the hat but can imagine the frustration after opening apigas on alt)

Well if u did the event with the toon you want the hat on and maybe also bought more bootys with hat one you would have received it on that character and not some other.
Basicly its your own fault.
That the hat is not freight-/trade-/dropable and it was not mentoned is just a lame excuse because u failed in 1st place.



You're just too funny man. It was impossible to know that before hand. Your argument is that it's my own mistake because I didn't try to second guess the rules. It's not my responsibility as a player to predict the rules of an event. If NCsoft did a mistake and failed to inform us it's not my fault. But I'll just ignore you from now on. All I wanted was a reply from Alyra.


Well if u did the event with the toon you want the hat on and maybe also bought more bootys with hat one you would have received it on that character and not some other.
Basicly its your own fault.
That the hat is not freight-/trade-/dropable and it was not mentoned is just a lame excuse because u failed in 1st place.



You're just too funny man. It was impossible to know that before hand. Your argument is that it's my own mistake because I didn't try to second guess the rules. It's not my responsibility as a player to predict the rules of an event. If NCsoft did a mistake and failed to inform us it's not my fault. But I'll just ignore you from now on. All I wanted was a reply from Alyra.

EVERY time there has been an "exclusive" or "rare" event item like a mask (except the letter event boss jewel which was not rare - it could be obtained elsewhere, and the halloween event horns and mask which were not rare from the outset.) it was no-drop/no-trade item. why did you go on a limb to tell yourself, yeah this once-in-a-lifetime-unobtainable item can be swapped to my main?

unless you were COMPLETELY new, i cannot understand why anyone would think "special" or "limited" items could be traded.

it goes to show how much NC is aware of the bots, and what means they have taken to ensure that greedy ebaying fashion [censored] add prone [censored] ******s wont get it.


Well if u did the event with the toon you want the hat on and maybe also bought more bootys with hat one you would have received it on that character and not some other.
Basicly its your own fault.
That the hat is not freight-/trade-/dropable and it was not mentoned is just a lame excuse because u failed in 1st place.



You're just too funny man. It was impossible to know that before hand. Your argument is that it's my own mistake because I didn't try to second guess the rules. It's not my responsibility as a player to predict the rules of an event. If NCsoft did a mistake and failed to inform us it's not my fault. But I'll just ignore you from now on. All I wanted was a reply from Alyra.



Well just look what i found proof? (http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&amp;Number=928077&amp;page=6&amp;fpart=43&amp;v c=1) .
This shows you did know all the facts on day 2 of the event.
Of course not that the hat will not be tradeable but that golden apiga are not tradeable while pirate booty are, that the golden apiga are counted for the hat, that bows last 3 hours and u can only buy all 24 hours new and they they also not tradeable. Also Bonny the event NPC gave out some information too.

With that in mind you wanna tell me you where unable to get the other pirate bootys on your main char or do the event with your main ?
Maybe try use your brain next time.

EVERY time there has been an "exclusive" or "rare" event item like a mask (except the letter event boss jewel which was not rare - it could be obtained elsewhere, and the halloween event horns and mask which were not rare from the outset.) it was no-drop/no-trade item. why did you go on a limb to tell yourself, yeah this once-in-a-lifetime-unobtainable item can be swapped to my main?

unless you were COMPLETELY new, i cannot understand why anyone would think "special" or "limited" items could be traded.

it goes to show how much NC is aware of the bots, and what means they have taken to ensure that greedy ebaying fashion [censored] add prone [censored] ******s wont get it.


No I'm not new (Open beta). "EVERY time" you say? I guess I might have missed an event or two then. I guess I need to be on every event, remember their every rule and compare and contrast every item that has been awarded. So I know what to expect, right?

So could you please inform me which other event, except the fishing event, that had an item which was no-drop/not-trade/no-freight? Or by "EVERY time" do you mean that one time only? Is this what now makes it a rule that rare event items are non-freightable? Which makes it so obvious that I should know this? Like I said, it's not my job to look at older events and second guess the rules of new ones. It should be enough that I read the current rules.

And no, I wont expect an item to be non-trade/non-drop/non-freight when it's not stated in the event rules. For the fishing event it was clearly stated in event advert that the reward would be non trade. This time it wasn't. So I didn't expect it to be. Simple.

I'm also tired of having to say this again and again...I don't want the item tradable. I only asked Alyra to make it freightable or just help me move it to my main character. There's a significant difference.

I'm also pretty sure that your "greedy ebaying fashion [censored] add prone [censored] ******s" all have their hats on their mains right now. Because they bought their booty on their main and opened them there. I hunted pigs on a low level alt for several hours a day for 14 days straight. My booty was on that toon, I opened the booty on that toon. I guess I deserve to be flamed for being slightly upset for wasting all that time.



Well just look what i found proof? (http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&amp;Number=928077&amp;page=6&amp;fpart=43&amp;v c=1) .
This shows you did know all the facts on day 2 of the event.
Of course not that the hat will not be tradeable but that golden apiga are not tradeable while pirate booty are, that the golden apiga are counted for the hat, that bows last 3 hours and u can only buy all 24 hours new and they they also not tradeable. Also Bonny the event NPC gave out some information too.

With that in mind you wanna tell me you where unable to get the other pirate bootys on your main char or do the event with your main ?
Maybe try use your brain next time.


RedScarvenger, proof of what exactly? That I knew ALL the facts? Really? Why the [923] would I have opened the booty on my alt then? Pure self-hatred? You're grasping after some strange straws here. It's like you think I'm lying about something?

I NEVER said I did not know the golden apigas were non-tradable. It even said so in the ITEM DESCRIPTION. OMG...you're just stating facts that everyone knew. How does that prove anything? What does it have to do with freighting them?

What I did NOT know is that I would not be able to FREIGHT the hat to my main. I only found this out after I got the hat on my alt. The answer to your last question should be apparent even to you by now. I already told you this several times. Why would I bother with moving the booty to my main char? WHEN I DID NOT EXPECT THE HAT TO BE NON-FREIGHTABLE.

For some reason some people seem terribly upset when I ask for some understanding and help in moving my and other people's hard earned rewards to our mains. So I'm curious. Is there a a reason beyond pure egoism?
go through the events in L2's recent past - start at C4 and work forward ...

the introduction of the Epic collection saw a no-drop, no-trade white mask that lots of people didnt read up on and shabbily gave it to the wrong toons.

the Christmas event a while back gave us Santa Hats that after the event you couldnt wear.

the fishing event put the unique hair accessory into a dozen pockets.

with C5 came shadow weapons and coupons to get them. neither the coupons nor the weapons are tradeable.

you started the game with no-drop gear.

the only 3 events that did not give no-drop acessories are the Letter event, the medal event, and the Halloween event. i am willing to wager those events bere the most fun BECAUSE you could get something VALUABLE to sell. remember that these are the events that every (and i do mean every) non-bot whines that the bots make more from. you got one AQ ring from the letter event where a bot and his team may have rounded up a dozen.

no NC did what they saw would benefit the player and not the bot - nodrop items.

notice the letter event of (c3?) has not yet returned.
Epic collection. That's no event item. You get it when you buy a box. And there IS clear information regarding the no-drop/no-trade fact when you buy it. Case closed.
http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&amp;Number=767429&amp;an=0&amp;page=0#Post7 67429

Christmas Event. I still have a santa hat and I have no trouble dropping/trading/freighting that. No relevance that you can't wear it anymore. And in any case we were informed of the non wear fact both in the Event advert and by Mistryl herself several times in the forums. Case closed
http://www.lineage2.com/archive/2006/12/tis_the_season_1.html

Fishing Event - The only real non-tradable/droppable event reward. It was clearly stated in the event advert that it would be non-drop/non-trade. Case closed
http://www.lineage2.com/archive/2007/01/fishing_champio_1.html

Shadow Weapons - Is it important to know that they are non-trade/no drop before hand? No afaik. They'll end up on your highest character no matter what you do. And they're not permanent or very rare. Right? Case closed.

Starting game with no drop gear. This is no event and the starting gear is not event items. They are non-trade/non-freight. But are you being punished in any way or form from not being informed of this fact before hand? Are they rare? Are they important? I can see no relevance. Case closed.

I didn't think I would have to search through all the Event adverts to make my point but do you see now what I'm getting at? In all the previous events we were informed before hand IF the event item was non-drop/non-trade and IF it was important to know. This time around we were NOT informed. Wouldn't it be natural to assume then that the item would be tradable? And is it not possible that this mistake lies with NCsoft? If so is it unreasonable to ask if my reward could be made freightable or moved to my main?



And I agree with your point redscavenger.



...I'm not even sure he has a point. If so, what is it?

1. That it was clear to him "to do the event on the char he wanted the hat on".
Why was it clear? Without an explanation this is just a statement and no point or argument.



Because the golden apigas are/where not tradeable.
If i want the hat on a special char i have to be sure he has the golden apigas. Dont know what is to hard to understand that. Try to think ahead.



2. That "You always have to expect the worst".
From NCsoft? From playing Lineage? Sorry, but why do I have to do that? No real argument here either.



Because u know there are some items in game that are not trade/freightable. Like the white mask or the evas mask.
So the worst case could be the event reward will not be tradeable/ freightable too. It did happen already in the past and ppl make mistakes and forget to write that the hat is not trade/freightable. Again try to think forward.



3. That it should stay like this because it makes item more unique.
Huh? o.O There won't be more items because you can freight it? Will there?



Of course not more items but the character gets more uniqe.



4. That Eva's mask was a non trade/freight/drop item.
Back then it was clearly stated in event advert that Eva's mask would be non tradable. Considering that the same was not stated in the event advert this time around it seems to suggest... well you should get my point.



Yeah maybe they forgot that to put in but afaik all competion reward items where like this.



None of these statements hold much logic or is a clear argument for a "point".



Because u fail to see it ? Lack of thinking ?
Dont know. Sure the hat could be freightable but it is not.
I think its because only characters that won the event should wear the reward.


But let's not forget... that if we want the hat on a special toon we should do the event on him or we are screwing ourselves. Yes, brilliant observation there... I feel screwed alright. But not by myself :)



Well if u did the event with the toon you want the hat on and maybe also bought more bootys with hat one you would have received it on that character and not some other.
Basicly its your own fault.
That the hat is not freight-/trade-/dropable and it was not mentoned is just a lame excuse because u failed in 1st place.



If you are sooooo smart, why didn't you let us all know this in advance? :P

Shadow Weapons - Is it important to know that they are non-trade/no drop before hand? No afaik. They'll end up on your highest character no matter what you do. And they're not permanent or very rare. Right? Case closed.



This Call to Arms there was no advance notice of the event at all, we just log in after maintenance and it's done. Well, in my case and I'm sure others, I didnt know so I didnt switch to my main (highest char) so another char that was higher level than my sub got the shadow items, which she doesn't need at all where my main could really have used them :(

Yes, no biggie the shadow items are limited time and all but it would really have helped me if they were freightable (help Alyra!) and I am hoping if they have more Call to Arms they will make the items freightable on same account :eek: It's too late for me, I got nonsense answers from support on this, last word was it was being sent to a higher tier of support lol that was quite awhile ago and no response yet :confused:

Oddly, I posted about it with a copy of the nonsense I got from ncsoft and guess what? RedScarvenger was right there to point out how dumb I am! :p lol

I can't believe I wasted valuable Medal collecting time to post this! :o
NEWS FLASH : I submitted a support ticket explaining my predicament. I'm stunned, but in less than 24 hours I now have my hat on my main! Who says NCsoft support isn't first class? :o :eek: :) :) :D

I Hope this information helps anyone else that wants their hat on their main.
Grats, that's good to hear :)


If you are sooooo smart, why didn't you let us all know this in advance? :P



I only readed the forums / event info and got all information i needed the other parts you could figure easy out in game.

Why should i inform you beforehand ?
I think you can read and have a brain that u can use.
If you cant its not my problem you have to live with it.