Ok, I just thought of this, but I'm not suggesting it yet as I want some feedback so I'm posting it here.
Basically, as we all know, olympiad has many flaws in NA due to lower population and levels than korea for a start, and many different timezones.. ya I'm rly going to quit my noblesse toon and leave my friends just ffor olympiad on a euro server...
I'm going to suggest an NA only patch that makes olympiad signup the same as sieges.
Basically every night at olympiad time you can sign for olympiad for the next day. You click 'I want to sign for the grand olympiad games' and it's done... you have untill one hour after signup to cancel or you will bee put into the games for the following day.
When the registration period ends players will be sent a message telling them whether the games will be commencing on the following day and it will be shown on the olympiad manager wether or not they will be taking place.
the following day all the participants will be added and randomised and must be online within the first hour of the olympiad and ready to be ported in, or they will lose points in exactly the same way as not meeting the requirements when ported in. (edit: matches will start after the first hour allowing all participants whho are logged in to be randomly allocated a combatant)
The games will go on on that night for as long as people are signed up, players can cancel their participation after their first match if they wish.
This is designed to meet the NA market and allow players from all different timezones to plan late nights/early mornings/spare time to do olympiad and they are almost guaranteed a fight as the big allies will always want their power classes signed incase the weaker classes of the other alliances sign to pass points. Also observers are more likely to be able to enjoy a good fight and point passing rounds are almost eliminated as everyone has a chance to get in on the action and plan from the previous day.
Basically I haven't put this in the suggestion forums yet because it is in it's early stages and I want feedback on possible ways to exploit/flaws.
I hope this system isn't severely flawed and is put into consideration. At the minute the olympiad is severely flawed and heroes come from point passing matches only, not skill or evven luck gettting classes.
I like an idea, if Alliance/clan members cant fight ea other, and make the untagging penalty harsher than it is so as peeps dont just untag to pass points.
Sounds easier for GM's than what you said. And harsher rules on untagging would make "loyalty" a word that actually matters
The problem is though that without being able to fight allies alot of servers would struggle since theres only a few major allies that have all the noblesse.
I enjoy the olympiad but don't reaally like all the point passing and fixed up heroes there are. A naked unplayed charecter can win hero easily by just being fed points from their ally. While a legitimate player can spend hours every night waiting for fights that don't come and winning as many as they get only to lose to the naked alt.
As I see it the main problems with the olympiad in NA.. apart from the class inbalance are:
1: Time zones conflict on servers
2: There are not enough noblesse to compete every night and the ones that do only want to pass points to their ally not enjoy the fights
3: Players would rather exploit the system to get heroes than fight fairly
4: Players with no huge ally have next to no chance of hero unless they wait all night for fights that don't come.
most those suggestions cant even be thought of though, with the limited coding they have on things unless they REALLY want it, but apparently new areas are more important than changing the Olypiad, thats why I offer the "no ally/clannie" in Olympiad type thing, thats actually pretty easy
How about clans/alliances able to have access to a premade olympiad char for each class to let players log ontu and fight at the olympiad. (clan lvl 6+ get access to these bonus olympiad only chars, clan leader is able to choose who has access to login of them).
The problem is though that without being able to fight allies alot of servers would struggle since theres only a few major allies that have all the noblesse.
I enjoy the olympiad but don't reaally like all the point passing and fixed up heroes there are. A naked unplayed charecter can win hero easily by just being fed points from their ally. While a legitimate player can spend hours every night waiting for fights that don't come and winning as many as they get only to lose to the naked alt.
As I see it the main problems with the olympiad in NA.. apart from the class inbalance are:
1: Time zones conflict on servers
2: There are not enough noblesse to compete every night and the ones that do only want to pass points to their ally not enjoy the fights
3: Players would rather exploit the system to get heroes than fight fairly
4: Players with no huge ally have next to no chance of hero unless they wait all night for fights that don't come.
maybe u should get some friends so u can pass points and stuff like what others are doing?
Because that's the whole point of Olympiads, passing points...
Next step is "maybe u should get some program so u can level while sleeping like what others are doing?" ?
Call it Special Olympiads. After all if the big tough guys need so cheap ways to win olympiads, it certainly reflects their intellect. And as the hero chan confirms it...
Because that's the whole point of Olympiads, passing points...
Next step is "maybe u should get some program so u can level while sleeping like what others are doing?" ?
Call it Special Olympiads. After all if the big tough guys need so cheap ways to win olympiads, it certainly reflects their intellect. And as the hero chan confirms it...
QFT
The Olympiad would be an event where alliances and clans should not matter, its 1v1, best of the best, "passing points" dont make you the best.
maybe u should get some friends so u can pass points and stuff like what others are doing?
if u dont like it... oh well.
LOL, I'm a 79 legit dominator... you really think I don't have an ally/friends?
I'm a part of all the point passing and so on, but don't like it. I see people complain all the time because they caan't even try the olympiad because it is controlled by major allies and no fights go on without their noblesse input. People spend years to get noble only to miss out on a big part of it because it is fatally flawed and corrupt... it needs fixing to make one of the best high-end parts of the gamme enjoyable instead of a farce.
No, olympiads are not about rewarding relationships. There are for duels. Actual fight. That's why there's no xp loss, no war in olympiads.
There's not even a fight in current olympiads. They could remove the arena and just let a board. That doesn't even have a sense.
If you want points from ally, play the rec game, not the olympiads.
Control... the worse is you probably believe what you say...
I for one, have all the respect in Aden for anyone that actually grinds to get noble. I also understand playing the system for as it is. I use this as an example, passing points in Olympiad is about the same as seeding bots mobs in game. Its part of the game, so use it if you want. Its not exactly moraly correct. But there are alot of things that are not morally correct that happens in this game and that fine. Olympiad on the other hand, we only ask that its a fair fight. It shouldnt be "controlled" as you say, it should just happen no matter alliance or clan you are with. I am pretty sure, as a player since Beta that i wont pass points, seed bot mobs or even /unstuck to not buy an SOE, just because its part of the game. Course, I have morals
I like Murx's idea about making people look the same while in the Olympiad fight. Same gear, same look etc. That would make you fight and THAT is what the Oly is about. You could keep your gear and all that, you would just look different while in the arena. That is a hell of an idea. Only problem I could see with that is the ones that run 3rd party programs for doing everything. They would be able to narrow it down to who they are fighting. But hey locks only keep honest people honest. You'll never keep all the cheaters from cheating.
Good job to the_don and Murx for brainstorming this.
Main problem with same looks and gear is that different players have different equpment and tactics revolving around the use of said equipment.
I use a drac bow, an arcana mace and a focus dager in the olympiad. I also use DC robe set, major arcana robe set and am trying to find a way to fit in my maj heavy set.... Depending on who I fight I need any combination of this gear, without it I'm not fighting to my style or preference and without the variety of gear I'll be at an extreme disadvantage compared to other classes such as summoners, duelists, daggers and so on, who only need one type of equipment.