OLs suck. There needed to be a thread on this subject, now we have one :)
Dicuss on how cp pots, low m.atk, bad land rates on debuffs, reducing buffs to clan buffs again and however else OLs are becoming more and more useless every chronicle.
OLs suck. There needed to be a thread on this subject, now we have one :)
Dicuss on how cp pots, low m.atk, bad land rates on debuffs, reducing buffs to clan buffs again and however else OLs are becoming more and more useless every chronicle.
You forgot the radius of the AOE spells....not to rub it in or anything. Its just we have to run it a mob of ppl to land some skill at (at a 30% land rate).
LOL, riiight.... over 60hrs XP into lvl 79 and I'm still only at 6%.. I was making 0.5% per hour at 78.
It seems that they are making updates loosely based on olympiad, even though they do fail alot (LOL Gladiators and summoners).
It's stupid really, I play my archer more for sieges/raids/pvp than I do my 79 ally CoV dominator because it does more for the clan by killing enemies/mobs faster and we have another domintator with only a nuker sub, lol.
YEs this class sucks a lot ;p all stop playing this class especially in the server i am playing: franz ;p
Very bad class because of weak dmg ,low success rates(seals).All dominators and OL reroll.I wonna be the last alive still trying to find out new and different combinations to play this HYBRIC class!BTW THE ONLY HYBRIC CLASS! :O
ol's are nut bad they are perfect in big pvp and in pagans darkness room they rule with the silence. and at hi lvl 1 vs 1 they almoast kan beat everybody
but yes i agree hard to lvl and you need to be hi lvl
I'm still considering re-kitting my 56 OL. The Clan I'm in have said they'll level me up.
Really, if your clan won't help you level, give them the finger and find one that will. Clans are getting bigger in CT1. And if anything I suspect that we'll see more OL's being created. Because those that have relied on 1/2 OL's for an ally, are gonna find that they don't have OL support any more. And clans seem to love the OL support.
Its this greedy attitude of players and wanting all the xp to lvl as fast as possible with boxed buffers etc that really detroys the support classes.
Also I've heard that the land rate of OL seals is being increased in CT1... though I have not actually gone and looked for a confirmation for that.
And for those that say they are gonna quit the game. Go and do it allready, no ones making you pay NC for a game you so obviosuly loath.
Clans love OL support with sieges and PVP ganking. Other than that it can be hard to get a party. My husband has a lower level BD (lower than my OL) and gets invites as soon as he signs on. Not me and I've been in the clan almost a year longer. BD's (and other classes) are just more popular.
xap has summed all up. I dont know how much MORE the seals will land in ct1... right now during pvp, i dont even bother using seals, only CP recharger (600+ cp when enemies hit you for 2k -> lol ).
OL are of course more usefull during siege. Invincibility is just great but hey, that only tempts people to bot and make OLs siege buffpets.
Personally, i feel a bit lost about my class.
I mean, we are powerfull, ok. But we are soooo unknown !
"Xialane : domi lfg !
Random allie member : hu ? you got the 3 buffs pliz ?"
Clans love us ?
yeah sweet for raid buffing or siege/mass pvp, but in the reality, i am not so sure we're loved.
If we were, tonz of ols would be in Aden and Elmore's territories ! Dunno in your servers, but in Devianne, lvl 78 OL i think there is.. about 20. (i am not counting bots) 79 OL , about 5 ?
that sounds a loved class?
Ok so.. why we're so few ?
because we don't get parties ! simple as that.
Xap said it : "Its this greedy attitude of players and wanting all the xp to lvl as fast as possible with boxed buffers etc that really detroys the support classes"
"Xialane : Anyone needs a Domi ? xp/pvp ?
Random ally : Na sorry, we can't take a leecher right now."
Sweet.. considering i was in a good and pretty active pvp ally. Imagine how it can be somewhereelse !
so we learned to do our own groups. not that bad though... but so much harder T.T
At CT1 it will be the surprise imo. People will wake up and say " ?! we don't have enough high lvl OLs !"
Too bad... pole parties will be nerfed too. It was one way for us to xp...
Wow, if i my clannies/ally said they didnt want to party with me because they think i would be a leech, i would leave the clan. Who would stay in a clan that doesn't treat you are a clan mate? If im soloing, and 3 PP clannies signed on and were lfg, then i would have 3 PP in a group with me, that simple. And heck, if my OL buddy from clan even wanted to leech from me some, sure why not, i wouldnt do it all the time, but i would here and there. Stronger the clan mates, the stronger the clan.
Haaaa Darwin... if all been like you ! :)
At the end, you take the habit of nomore asking for group. And archers are begging you to get invited in the pole group ;)
This is time of revenge : "sorry sweetie, we don't take useless classes in our aoe party"
*evil smile*
I guess the Frintezza around my neck kept me in clan that long. Hopefully, some people worth it too.
My point now is that clans must understand that a high lvl and active OL is a key of victory.
They MUST help to lvl OLs more than ever. CT1 will wake all up i hope.
It is not that hard By Pa'agrio ! group them, make them feel loved, show them they are very usefull !
I lvled solo from 73-79 after NC made it so people needed maximum XP to hit the higher levels, so people stopped gladly partying me.
Now I got my own BD/SE/PP/SWS and CoV meaning getting clan parties isn't too tough any more since I bring half the party the rest just bring their DD's.... mobile buff city ftw.
Also I make a point when in a party to compare my Damage stats with soulcry to the TH/BD/SWS etc that I'm partied with. .. you'll be suprised how much damage an OL with soulcry and a dagger can do.
Ferine, not everyone can box all that ! Oo
but, i may admit you are surprising :) sounds like working good.
As OL, i didn't choose my class to go solo. Daggers/ nukers... that can solo.
We are a support class, aren't we?
so having to solo or begging for group is unfair !
As far as i know you're uncrest.
That show my point : no clan cared about you so you go soloman.
if your experience and exemple is brilliant, i don't find it "normal".
Not your fault though.. game design and player's selfishness are responsible ><
Nah, I've stuck with the same grp of ppl since I made the toon really. At first I had awesome fun with my old clan, we'd make archer partys in Catacombs and when all had full mana train 20-40 mobs into our room and I'd AOe root/slow while the archers killed. Alas tho at about lvl 73 the people we did it with quit so I was left to solo.
After making the grind to 79 and getting victories of paagrio while wartagged with most of the server I got fed up and went solo for about a month, lol.
The buffers weren't all boxed at the same time, they mostly came with my subclasses. SE was first buffer, then PP, then got the SE to 75 with my necro sub, PP to 7x with my archer and boxed a BD sometimes and SWS others with the archer.
i agree with Gordon.
We should not have to do that !
Clans ! love us more ! group us, care us !
We are your treasure ! help us as we help you and your clan will be more powerfull !
close to my 79, i cannot really complain. always did aoe pole party with my IR husband playing a BH.
but... i am scared for new OLs.. T.T
All that joyfull and hopefull young orcs shamans thinking of embraccing a worderfull career as Overlord, wanting badly to support their future clan, thinking they will bring "something" important and appreciated....
Oh yes.. they will be loved. at 66 for cp heal. and after ? no more party ?
And when time will come that high lvls archers/nukers of the clan will loose all the time on siege, someone, someone not clever just suddenly awake, will ask?! why our OL is still lowbie ? we need VoP !"
The young OL will simply reply "i solo"
Clans love OL support with sieges and PVP ganking. Other than that it can be hard to get a party. My husband has a lower level BD (lower than my OL) and gets invites as soon as he signs on. Not me and I've been in the clan almost a year longer. BD's (and other classes) are just more popular.
Considering the way the game has developed that's par for the course. It's absolutely amazing to think of how parties/sieges were conducted back in the day and contract that with how people do them now.
In WoW the min/max'ing(attempting to get the absolute best mitagation/DPS/HPS/whatever) was pretty rampant but it was still confined to end game raids and hardcore arena PVP. In L2 I've found level 20-30 folks that won't leave town to exp unless you have Prophet/WC/SE buffs and a pole party. Granted, they aren't providing the buffer or AoE DD but that's what they want.
Sieges? It's even more transparent. Who summons siege engines anymore? It's takes too long. Who frets about healers like they use to ever since CP pots were introduced? CP pots are quicker and more efficient. How many dagger users do you see? They are cut down before they can get into melee range.
My point is two-fold:
- NCSoft can't claim parity when multiple classes simply have no place in parties. You can't blame the players for gravitating towards what works when it was NCSoft that created the situation.
- The above being said, clans that want production from their members need to nurture those classes. Leadership needs to work with their uh...less popular classes to see that they are put in a position where they can suceed whether it's in exp parties or on the siege field. That Overlord, SE, Prophet, tank, etc. might stop showing up when you really need them and not give a **** about what you want when they've been snubbed for the fifteenth time in a row. Typing out /invite isn't hard.
If you can't be with the one you want, love the one you're with
During C1 my old clan leader personally dragged me to level 56 on a class that no one else wanted to group with at the time. All of the sudden we were an extremely small clan with a Haste2 Warcryer during a period when there was no such thing as a GSAP. I started getting other clan leaders asking how I was and if I was happy with my clan.
I do think that the pots in the game has made the OL and to a greater extent, the PP and Bishops a lot less played. I have been snubbed by some of the people who insist on the highest exp parties. I think what really sucks is the notion that removing the ally abilities from OL because the allys have grown so is really close to heart of the issue too.
I understand balancing issues. I do believe NcSoft wants a balanced game, but I really fail to understand some of the decisions that are made. The fact that you can spam pots is one point that comes to mind. Fine, you want a heal, cp heal, quick heal, then why are then not in the emergency catagory. That is supposidly why they are making some changes directly to active skills in the game. Because people have found a way to use them to gain better exp, instead of useing the skill as the developer foresaw.
Then, to make decisions based on a part of the game so few players ever attain, the Olympiad, just makes no sense.
Fix the pot problem and players will want to play some of these support classes again. With out this, the game will eventually be everyone with 2 to 3 accounts just to run a main, and I can't believe that was ever the intention at all.
YEs this class sucks a lot ;p all stop playing this class especially in the server i am playing: franz ;p
Very bad class because of weak dmg ,low success rates(seals).All dominators and OL reroll.I wonna be the last alive still trying to find out new and different combinations to play this HYBRIC class!BTW THE ONLY HYBRIC CLASS! :O
It all goes down to game mechanics that are horrible. It DOESNT make sense in a MMO that SOLO classes get MORE xp than GROUPS.
- Buffs are way too important
- People are way too selfish
- Buff potions should NOT exist
- Spamming CP pots should NOT exist
I've duoed with nukers who gets 20k per mobs with 2 shots while getting 8-9k in a GROUP!!!
Account sharing (aka buffpets) is what caused support class to vanish.
Where WoW tries too much balancing stuff, NCSOFT is just ******ed in the way they concept the game. They intended to have a game based on CLAN and we end up having more nukers/archers... helloooo something wrong???
Answer is very simple. I wrote a suggestion mail to NCSOFT trying to decorticate what is wrong. It goes something like this:
"If you play your own game, you will probably know that everyone has a buffpet (if you dont know what a buffpet is, it's simply a specific support classes such as prophets, shillien elders etc that are used by one player out of party in order to level faster without having to look for a group).
I thought lineage2 was a mmorpg where we were supposed to play with other players. You are just encouraging people to level solo. You make us so dependant of buffs to level that it is now impossible to not see buffpets everyhere. The consequences are several: many people stop playing these classes. You are also helping the 2nd hand market where toons are sold in real life and bought by players who want to level faster.
First of all, WHY someone who plays solo can level faster (ie gaining more XP) than a group of 9 players? This is completly ******ed as it takes more time and energy to set up a group. Secondly, why do you allow support classes to buff OUT OF party??? You started with zerk and holy weapon, why not the rest??? Of course, bladedancers and swordsingers have to be in party but DID YOU KNOW THAT PEOPLE USE THOSE TWO CLASSES AS BUFFPETS TOO??? invite, re-invite, invite, re-invite. And therefore thirdly, WHEN A BUFFER IS REMOVED OF THE PARTY, REMOVE THE BUFFS TOO!!!
This will of course only resolve part of the issue as people will still solo (because most players want to be gods and play damage dealers) BUT at least they will be FORCED to group the support class and thus slowing the levelling compared to the legit players who need groups to level.
There are of course other things in Lineage2 gaming system that is completly ******ed, one of them being the bot and the non existence tools or GM available for players. When i see a bot, i shouldnt have to type its name as they're often something like "X001lf111ll1l", NO i should be able to select the player, CLICK A REPORT BUTTON and this, sends an alert to a PRESENT GM who can instantly check this out.
It has reached to a point where we cannot blame the cheaters anymore as the game ITSELF favours them."
I got a reply from NCSOFT saying that i should post this letter on forum. Someone explain why they have a "suggestion" category in the support form. Clowns.
Aramael, about the way the game is designed...
ofc i agree with all your points, as i am a OL myself and i see same things as you everydays.
but, i heard that in korea, there are soooo many players that people don't use buffpets. All xp spot is full, party matching system rocks, supports classes are loved and grouped easily.. etc.
Info or not? if someone play in korean server, pliz tell us.
but that make sense, since the game is first made in and for Korea.
kaelia, I agree on some points...but...if you remove buffs when a buffer is removed from party...that will most likely means the party dies if the buffer disconnects....not a pretty thought
kaelia, I agree on some points...but...if you remove buffs when a buffer is removed from party...that will most likely means the party dies if the buffer disconnects....not a pretty thought
you're right but it's a lesser bad considering the following points:
- soloer cannot get all the xp themselves anymore. They would HAVE TO group another player and EVEN if it's a buffpet, then xp is still shared. Doesnt solve the problem (if being a selfish soloer dd is indeed a problem) but at least we wont see damage dealers xp 10x faster.
- If the buffer leaves, oh well, that's too bad. IF WE DIDNT HAVE buffpets, there would be more real player playing buffers and thus not a problem looking for one. Buffs are here to enhance the party, it's still possible to do xp without the top buffs. A SE can do all the buffs one needs for exemple.
hmm...
With the vr nerf it will be much harder for me to lvl my WS in a cata, BUT maybe now people will take my OL for my seals of chaos/Winter. Maybe... (And it doesn't really get much better than rooting 2 rooms when you're about to die, Seal of Binding ftw! :) )
I get the feeling that NC is trying to make this game what it really is... a multiplayer! Instead of 1 solo person with a boxed toon, we (not just OLs) can have more parties. Would be nice if I'm right, but I honestly can't say. I've only been playing about 6 months, my highest toon is a 48 WS, then there's my 44 OL then junk toons.
It amazes me the number of people who 2 box (or even 3 or more), and those who don't often can't find groups because of that.
(I often wish I had a 2nd box, just so I could level or talk with someone :( )
I'm already in a clan actually, both toons in the same one. I was speaking in general though, not just for myself.
I like OL, has some good skills, but, clan or no, it's not an easy class to party. My buffs suck unless in a clan PARTY and even then people will prefer a PP or SE (often boxed), but I debuff which can save healers mp, which speeds up lvling, which... etc. Most parties that I've seen are of a fighter and a buffer (generally 2 boxed), and I'm often not wanted. I think most people just don't understand the uses for an OL, myself included tbh but I'm learning. But like I said, with the VR nerf (previous post), people might start wanting the OL. I've been invited to party with people simply because I rooted 14 mobs at once and saved someone's life, it's quite nice, but more often than not I'm shouting somewhere "44 OL lfg" and the usual response is "Get a clan to party you". I have YET to be offered a position in a clan, just told to go find one. OL don't need clans to party, I've partied in catas w/o clannies, and made some very good xp AND saved lives when the healer couldnt because the healer improperly spammed skills! Any class that a player doesn't know how to play will probably suck. I think I'm doing pretty well and I can say that OL don't suck, they're not easy but they don't suck.
I tested aoe now. i mean pole.
And i must agree with foodstuffs. Now, people gonna NEED ols ! :)
That is a great news !
I dunno in lower lvls, but in higher, aoe pole groups are now possible only with a good healer, a good recharger, a good destroyer and an OL ! (+ buffer/bd ofc). Where before Destroyer was going alone with buff pets, now you need active healer and OL to do something.
Some mob by mob area, like mos or pagan, changed a lot. Without a OL to do crowd control, it's becoming a bit harder.
And i don't talk yet about Seal of Blockade, looks like it's the anti aoe nerf solution.
My point is, now, even out of clan, we can have great hope for ols to find groups. Seals are really more powerfull.
and this new chronicle is making soloing harder, imo.
40% and 1 amulet left !
I review my priority. bb clan cov, hello blockade !
Victories of Pa'agrio can wait till i am bored of pulling all fog for my destros friends and my crazy dorf spoiler $_$
btw, Isle of Prayer rocks ! okok ... low lvling.. but daaaaamn ! long time i wasn't able to solo on my OL !!! :)
light set + dagger + swift pots and self buffs... yeaaaaaah !!
ty ncsoft for that area ! Paradise of orc mages !! <3
The buffers weren't all boxed at the same time, they mostly came with my subclasses. SE was first buffer, then PP, then got the SE to 75 with my necro sub, PP to 7x with my archer and boxed a BD sometimes and SWS others with the archer.
Ah I see why you did 0.5% an hour at 78 now (lol which I consider fast!). I chug along at about 0.25% an hour at 78. I use maj heavy for pve, a bloody orchid with focus, and maj jewels. No fancy stuff. My buffpet is a battle prophet with kesh duals, still in BW heavy, and bo jewels. I usually keep the pp in my party. That translates to about 400 hours of grind to hit 79.
I only have my own alt clan for my pp and my OL for buffs and heals. It's fine to solo if you're patient and in no hurry. I've actually stopped playing a few times to take a break, but always come back after a few months.
Once I hit 79 and have victories and blockade, I'll switch to a more time friendly server and join a clan for some pvp. Used to have a STS main on another server, so oddly enough, I've come to enjoy playing solo. So I might transfer the STS to my current server and use it to level my OL.
I still remember you from Erica. You were a very good OL in sieges and should have been a clan leader. The alliance leaders that we had for the most part weren't so good because they saw the game from a DD perspective. I always thought that you had a bigger picture of war which included coordinated roles for support characters. Hope things on Erica are still fine with you.
First of all congratulations for this really constructive thread in a troll-infested forum. I do agree on most of the points here (specially how CP pots destroyed many classes). The problems OL has are often common on all supprot classes. The basic game mechanics were designed without CP/QHP pots and their insertion ruined things. Some classes have skills to compensate for their lack of DD abilities (drains, heals, etc) but now these skills are completely useless due to pot spamming. Support (maybe add summoners in that) classes' mana runs out before the opponent's pot stock and they end up easy targets most of the time.
As for Aramael's suggestion: I had made a similar suggestion thread some time ago (that buffs should go out 1 minute after buffer leaves party). That would handle the buffer DC problem (1 min is enough to get to a nearby safe spot and wait for the buffer to relog). Well, everybody flamed the idea. Even some people that claimed they were buffers, didn't like it (maybe they box another toon too :) ). It shows how deep 2-boxing has been embedded in people's heads.
Writing the previous post, I forgot to say some things specific for the OL.
-I find stupid that NC gave berserker skill to OL. This is not a general skill. OL should have good general skills, not class specific ones. Bersrker is a big no no for tanks. Let some other class buff it. In it's stead, I would put a buff that boosts greatly MP regeneration (like HoP). Or give a short of clarity (lesser level ofc than EE's). This would be usefull for all classes, since everybody uses MP for some purpose. And Ol would be the CP, HP and MP restorer.
-I would also put a toggle that would greatly reduce the MP consumption for buffs but make them apply only to self. That way an OL (maybe same could apply on WC) could solo without spending huge amounts of MP to buff itself.
OLs are only wanted in mage parties - take away Rage of Paagio and we're screwed.
Doomcryers have all the attention due to their ability bo deliver melee/archer buffs that cover most prophet / SE buffs and add some more (gate chant, chant of protection). Gimp us, OLs, even more, why don't you (as WW and Rage are the ONLY buffs WC/Dooms do not get)?
Clarity is as usefull and as "general" as Rage is - sorry, but again only mages are wild to get this (archers and daggers/grand kalamaries are usually overbuffed with it). But unlike Clarity, Rage can be used by tanks too (tanks in PvP...? I mean... hello? who the heck even targets them? what do they need this little extra p.def for if they are picked last?). And why in gods name would anyone take OLs "clarity of lower lvl" instead of EE's? There are enough boxed ones (due to PoWater) around to buff "normal" clarity.
And OLs should not solo. Period. And if any is soloing, then there is always at least a SE around - might/shield/mental/ww/vr/focus/guidance/death wisper/concentration/wm and all you need more is 3-4 self buffs (which are easily recharged back by the SE).
LOL OL's suck huh i used to think that cuz was hating mine trying to solo him but if what i read on war cry forums about how a dominator can solo a raid with seal of blockade then umm they don't suck and my clan loves me.
szaaman i have to solo when my friends and clan are'nt on cuz noone will party an OL in rift when i've tried looking for a party there or anywhere since i'm lvl 52 i haven't hit that lvl where OL is actually wanted yet and normaly no SE, or buffers arround.
can't even get a party when i say i'll buff myself so i solo and don't waste my time asking for a party anymore .
pretty sad when ya play a mmorpg and your stuck soloing.
why can't OL have a mp regen skill like heart of pa'agrio and call it soul of pa'agrio if that isn't taken yet.
Bottom line is i'd love the developers to actually post why they nerfed our OL buffing abilitys to where we are clan based now cuz what was so wrong with how they originally made the classes in this game to where each chronicle they want to do something that didn't need to be done.
Last thing why play a OL now when you can have tons of WC's who can buff full partys and pets in clan during seige time and since we have cp pots in game can all of us OL's get transfered to WC free of charge since your killing our class but i want my soul guard to stay.
Me too, but with all this i read i don't know. I have a toon near 40 and still can't decide if i'll go for an OL or WC.
When i started him i wanted to go for OL but right now i think WC would be more logical.
A clan can be big and active at one point, but later can shrink. If a character is too constricted (like OL) it is very hard to level.
The only reason that WC and Bishops survive (more live players than the rest) is that: a) WC needs to be much higher level than other buffers in order to get the same buffs and b)Bishops are needed in few cases but in those cases they can't be boxed (raids, sieges).
2 boxing have killed most of the live support classes. NC did the rest.
my clan is so small our WC in it can basically do what an OL was good for and that's buffing the whole clan. so why make an OL for clan buffing when a WC gets better buffs ,can buff everyone and pets in a full party can solo better and get partys easier than an OL and above all else probably gets nerfed less each chronicle.
If ya don't have an OL allready don't make 1 unless you want a rare class to play it's as simple as that. or stand in line at the" What in the heck are you thinking by ruining OL each chronicle line "
2nd thought make an OL if our line gets long enough maybe someone will listen for a change.
So why did i make mine and refuse to delete him and reroll a WC ?
Only reason is cuz theres enough WC's in game probably to supply each clan with at least 2 and i didn't want another WC/BD/GLADI as i call them since majority use duals.
Gordon save yourself the headache and go WC unless your on hinde then join bloodlust and we'll help ya lvl the OL and then you can be our 2nd 1 since i have a OL.
Then each new NERF
(all agree our new name for the uh umm UPDATE bad joke since it's not updateing but nerfing classes to oblivion) you can join us and ask our same questions why they nerf this ,ohh and this was nerfed also, ohh and now we can buff alliances again and it's chronicle 30 dang why they take it away and give it back all of a sudden.
sorry for the childish type thing there but that is precisely what is going on by chronicle 30 we should be back to buffing allys again since there won't be anyone playing OL for clan support they will either drop it from the game or give back the ally buffs (wishfull thinking since they will drop ol from game just a matter of time all the nerfing is prooving it.
LOL OL's suck huh i used to think that cuz was hating mine trying to solo him but if what i read on war cry forums about how a dominator can solo a raid with seal of blockade then umm they don't suck and my clan loves me.
Intresting. Very intresting.
I wonder if ANY of those [censored] how "OL can solo RB" can deliver a fraps of that. Or any other proof.
Do you even know how Seal of Blokade works? Look it up. And then THINK.
I don't know, maybe there is some allmighty Augment that combined with 150 elemental p.atk can give OL the ability to SOLO a RB, but for sake, read the skills description and explain to me how can a support char do enough dmg to drop down a gazillion-HP mob??? With drains close to 200 mp per one use? With Seal of Poison? Or maybe with powerfull Leathal Strikes melee attack? Oh... wait... I got it. SEAL OF FLAME! NCSoft boosted DoTs, didn't they? That must be it!
*palmface*
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seal of blockade - lasts a min (or two?), 10 second recharge delay, 90% land rate, and prevents the target from being able to hit you with either melee or ranged (can still use magic).
Theres what i read about that soloing raid bosses so as ya can see i didn't make it up what i read.
I'd alo like to see a vid of it since by time i get there if i still am playing an OL the skills gonna be so nerfed from now it will be a classic.
OLs are the single best Crowd control class out there, especially now that sleep cloud has been nerfed. Buffing, healing those are not for us, sure we can do them, but it is not where we really shine. When the crap hits the fan and the whole party is going to die, I stop that. I've saved parties from being wiped out on numerous occasions, and my friends know what I'm capable of.
OLs have a lot of skills, too many in fact. I imagine people look at all the things an OL can do and get confused. There are a lot of ways to play an OL too, but partying is the most effective. In parties use your seals, Winter, Binding, and Silence to slow delay and stop the Mobs. Dreaming spirit is very effective, and casts quickly.
The big problem is that as an OL you need other classes. you need friends, allies, clannies to help you if you want to play legitimately. If you don't have the support well you're probably pretty done for.
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seal of blockade - lasts a min (or two?), 10 second recharge delay, 90% land rate, and prevents the target from being able to hit you with either melee or ranged (can still use magic).
Theres what i read about that soloing raid bosses so as ya can see i didn't make it up what i read.
I'd alo like to see a vid of it since by time i get there if i still am playing an OL the skills gonna be so nerfed from now it will be a classic.
Right. You've read it on the internet. It must be true then.
*two-hand face palm*
Please tell me, where in this quote did you see any information about SoB allowing the OL to solo a RB? I didn't see any.
A mage OL/SoB party can "solo" RB just like a titan party can. Just like an archer party can. Only difference is that mages can do it faster and easier now. Go figure.
OLs are the single best Crowd control class out there, especially now that sleep cloud has been nerfed. Buffing, healing those are not for us, sure we can do them, but it is not where we really shine. When the crap hits the fan and the whole party is going to die, I stop that. I've saved parties from being wiped out on numerous occasions, and my friends know what I'm capable of.
i dont know what level is your OL. For me L2 is a pvp game and with the crazy mdef in front, no seals land. CP heal? sure. Heals about 650 mass heal and 800 single. An archer can easily hit your for 2-3k. Invincibility is fun... for a few times. And you need the right combination in the clan.
OL were meant to be few, not like archers or nukers. OL were meant to be clan's swiss knife. If you dont have a good clan, you should reroll.
Now, if you plan to pve all your L2 life, then you're "fine".