what kind of good? unbeatable, best crit rate, best crit damage, what? becvause none of them solo are unbeatable or uber. they all lack in one department or another.
if you have to choose between these two classes pick TH.
but the next-to-best pvp class in interlude will be Glads/tyrants tied for second to the HE.
but all classes really do have their limitations. the HE not so much. never underestimate the power of a greater CP spam. it really does out-pot most melee damage.
mid hp
low dmg
low crit dmg
high dex
high crit rate
fastest run
fast attack spd.
good def
high m def
Abyss Walker:
low hp
high attk
high crit dmg
mid dex
low crit rate
good attk speed
decent-good run speed
low def
decent m def
Treasure Hawk
High hp
good attk
good crit attk
low dex
good crit rate
slowest runspeed(unless you use dash) although best for human
fastest attk spd
best def
lowest m def(mages will kill you)
in summary
PW is best at speed
AW is best at damage
TH is decent at everything
pick one
(P.S. all all have strengths and weakness so are not unbeatable and win verses specific classes and noobs)
how does TH have the fasetst atk speed if PW has highest dex. and u said in summary that pw is the best at speed. contradiction.
when buffed, the PW will have more runspeed than the TH even with dash. the TH, contrarily, has Atk speed passives. try it in L2calc. post some numbers i am just going by what i know as skills.
TH is fastest in atk speed over PW cause of boost atk speed passives.
Pw don't get any crt dmg passives or boost atk speed....which given PW's high dex they should have more atk speed then a TH, at the very lest on par with them, not less.
a 79 TH with mirage > then 79 PW.
78 PW > 78 TH.
the run speed on PW is just crazy high. and self buff WW is awesome. TH has dash but it's short, a possible life saver, however don't forget backstab by passes CP and can 1 hit people, so running away isn't a very good idea.
couple high run speed, with blinding blow, and back stab and you can almost never lose to a runner in pvp as a PW.
imo for PvP all around best is PW > TH > AW, PvE: TH > AW > PW.
mid hp
low dmg
low crit dmg
high dex
high crit rate
fastest run
fast attack spd.
good def
high m def
Abyss Walker:
low hp
high attk
high crit dmg
mid dex
low crit rate
good attk speed
decent-good run speed
low def
decent m def
Treasure Hawk
High hp
good attk
good crit attk
low dex
good crit rate
slowest runspeed(unless you use dash) although best for human
fastest attk spd
best def
lowest m def(mages will kill you)
in summary
PW is best at speed
AW is best at damage
TH is decent at everything
pick one
(P.S. all all have strengths and weakness so are not unbeatable and win verses specific classes and noobs)
CT1.5 TH's get dash as a toggle, whos fastest dagger now(errr...then)?
still imo, play which dagger you have most exp playing or whichever one looks the best to you or whatever floats your boat, pick whichever class your most likely to stick with and find fun.
personally i feel TH's are much more well rounded as a class, and alot of fun to play, ive played PW, AW and TH, and overall even without the 2min MM buff/focus death, i enjoy TH much more then either, but thats me.
its not really the skills the toon gets but how well the player plays thier toon, ive 1v1'd daggers with 10 levels on me (at the time 64 TH vs 74 AW), and won ever time, sure they may hit harder then me or even land more, but that doesnt mean they know how to play dagger better then me.
still 90% of people in game arent daggers either, so also take into consideration how well you know how to fight players of other classes, you dont kill a mage the same way you kill a gladiator.
CT1.5 TH's get dash as a toggle, whos fastest dagger now(errr...then)?
still imo, play which dagger you have most exp playing or whichever one looks the best to you or whatever floats your boat, pick whichever class your most likely to stick with and find fun.
personally i feel TH's are much more well rounded as a class, and alot of fun to play, ive played PW, AW and TH, and overall even without the 2min MM buff/focus death, i enjoy TH much more then either, but thats me.
its not really the skills the toon gets but how well the player plays thier toon, ive 1v1'd daggers with 10 levels on me (at the time 64 TH vs 74 AW), and won ever time, sure they may hit harder then me or even land more, but that doesnt mean they know how to play dagger better then me.
still 90% of people in game arent daggers either, so also take into consideration how well you know how to fight players of other classes, you dont kill a mage the same way you kill a gladiator.
I'm kindof scared of how the dash toggle will turn out..
will it keep the same speed? will it cost a 50mp to start and take 20 mp every second?
how does TH have the fasetst atk speed if PW has highest dex. and u said in summary that pw is the best at speed. contradiction.
TH were given boost atk speed passives to make up for they sucky DEX in a Rogue Class but it was over done. with The passive they have higher attack speed then PW and AW and they get Critt chance and crittt power passive that make then even more overpowered. So the extra Dex that AW and PW have is just run speed really (wow that's fair thanks Korea).
So your answer is TH the Over powered Rogue Class.
O and Knight..... TH is Treasure Hunter not Treasure Hawk ;)
Also P defense is the same on all 3. Only gear makes a difference, they all 3 get the same Light armor mastery
CT1.5 TH's get dash as a toggle, whos fastest dagger now(errr...then)?
Thanks again Korea for making Higher Dex on PW and AW useless.
Might as well just Delete PW and AW from the data base and turn them all into TH it's really pointless to be a AW or PW, When no manner what you do 2 help AW and PW you make The TH better. :mad:
Does it really mater which one you choose. By the time you get to 75+ to compete with everyone else your FOTC dagger will be nerfed and you will have to reroll to another FOTC.
Pick a class you like on how you play not on how you think you will pwn everyone in the future.
Nukers have been killing since OB
Daggers have been killing since c1
Archers been killing since Prophecies came out
Glads been killing since people could afford strong duals
Tyrants have been killing since c1
Destroyes have been killing since people learned how to use frenzy
Summoners have been killing since c2
Necros have been killing since c3
There are no FTW classes there are those who are good in PVP, those who are good in PVE those who are good support, those who are good money makers,
But what makes the difference are the people playing them
We have...
The rich pros
The rich noobs
The average pros
The average decents
The average neutrals
The average RPers
The average noobs
The weak/whiny decents
The weak/whiny noobs
The weak/whiny crybabies
The weak/whiny pros??
The weak whiny quitters
The farmers
1/2 the power comes from the character, and 1/2 the power comes from the person running the character... remember this and you too can make a difference...
Of course the person controling the character makes a difference. I can definatley tell who has experience and who used a credit card.
In every chronicle there have been changes that tipped the ballance of pvp in one direction or the other creating FOTC. Otherwise we wouldn't have seen the amount of rerolled Nukers, Daggers, Archers, and Necro's.
1/2 the power comes from the character, and 1/2 the power comes from the person running the character... remember this and you too can make a difference...
LOL not quite maybe
1/4 the character.
1/4 the person controling the character.
1/2 the support (ie buffers and gear)
Someone who has access to all the buffs and gear they want they can do just about anything they want in this game. But without the support and gear it doesn't matter how good a player someone thinks they are. It's just sad that people can buy thier way to the top in this game.
Fortunatley im not that competative and enjoy playing this game. Sure I enjoy pvp and know my limitations at my lvl and access to support. I only have 1 account and play pretty odd hours from my clan mates most of the time. Only buffs I normaly have access to are Clan Hall buffs which are quit good for grinding. Clan Hall buffs are lacking though when it comes to pvp. Also being a nuker I have always wondered why enemies always shows up when im low on mp never when I have enough to defend myself. :mad:
Plus im not to fond of the who can spam the most CP and QH pots pvp this has turned into. :eek:
Don't forget the ones that use 3rd party programs to assist them in various situations (no I'm not talking about nostromo or the g-15 keyboard with macros).