Your crafting success/fail list

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I thought this could be fun.

Ill begin it.

Success

Tat Necklace x 2
tat earing x3
Tat ring x2
Maj helmet x1
DLE x1
Maj boots x1
som x 1
Maj necklace x 3
Maj earing x 2
Maj ring x 4
Bunch of random B-grade stuff

Failed
Tat necklace x 3
tat earing x 4
tat ring x2
maj necklace x4
maj earing x10 ( yea...i know lol )
maj ring x 5
Draconic bow x3
Forgotten blade x1
DLE x2
Maj gloves x 2
Maj helmet x2
DC helmet x2
SOM x1
Arcana mace x1
bunch of B-grade stuff

Whats your list like?
fail since c5:

2x drac bow
15x tato jewels
2x wizard tear

success:

none.
I don't keep a list, all I know is that I'm super average.

I bought 10 maj ring recipes once and did them in a batch. I failed exactly 3. On another occasion I did 5 60% b-grade gloves and boots in a batch, and failed exactly 2.

My OE record is way more interesting. I screenshot every time I pop or when I reach my target level. I only have 7 screenshots of dark screamers. 6 of them popped going to +4. Probably popped over 40 brig gaiters trying for +6, got a bronze helmet to +9 on the first try, got a brig tunic to +9 on PTS after like two tries, spent over 80 mill trying for +6 doom boots (factoring in the return from crystals), and got +6 blue wolf boots on the second try.
my OE is way better too..

made a +5 drac bow the other night, made a full +6 majestic light and heavy set, dc robe and helm +6 so far...
Success:
craft: 2X Maj earings back to back.

Fail:
Crafting: 1 X DC light leggings.

Success:
o/e: 2 Maj rings to +4, 1 MAJ neckless +4.

fails: 3 C weapons.

I should have more, but I just can't remember them all.
Craft Sucess:

DC Boots
DC Helm
Soul Bow
Maj Earring x2
Mar Ring x2
Maj LA gloves
Maj LA Boots
NM Robe
NM Gloves

Craft Fails:
DC Glooves
Maj Gloves x3
Soul Bow x2
Tate Earring

OE Sucess:
+9 DS
+7 SoM
+7 D/g dagger
+12 D/g SoL

OE Fails
DS +3 > 4 x3
DS +4 > 5 x1
OE FAIL +4 AQ RING
drac bow 7x failed
I've failed my aq going 6 like 25 times.
I dont keep a list, but the overall stats would be something like 75/110 or so atm.

And I hate Maj jewels >.<
Failed:
All 60% crafts so far. (B & A grade)
fails:
2x Draconic Leather Armor
1x Draconic Leather Helmet
1x Draconic Bow
~10x Sword of Miracles
5x Majestic Leather Armor
3x Dark Crystal Robe

all of the above when prices were much higher on Lionna than now.

the succeeded ones are insignificant comparing to the fails.

one thing is certain. 60% suxx
Funny thing is, I fail the 70% more than the 60% ones :P

Failed:
All 60% crafts so far. (B & A grade)



ouch that sucks!!!!
Yeah it sucks. My WS must be cursed.
i failed
- lots of boots and gloves A grade
- Saint spear *2
- Dragonhunter axe
- lots of jewel A and S grades
- soul seperator
- all OE i tried

success :
- basalt battle hammer
- drac bow
- dragon hunter axe
- som
- tallum glaive
- lots of A and S jewels
- bloody orchid
- lots of armor parts A grade

In fact, it seems that when i need an item, it successes, and when i don't need it failed !! lol

As fortune seeker, crafting doesn't me cost lost of adenas, so i do lots of craft, perhaps 1 each 2 days. I crafted all weapons or armors i have, but IC set i buyed (525m for full +3 unsealed)
Success : D-Grade Soulshots ! :)
Ok sorry, let's restart.

Success :
- Tallum Gloves
- Tallum Boots
- Dark Crystal Shield

Failed :
- Tallum Helmet
- Tateossian Necklace


Looks obvious I'm not making money with 60% craft :p
Failed 1 Majestic ring... I did manage to OE an ELS to +5, popped one also LOL (the summoners where happy with the crystals :))

Leave most of the crafting to Orvieta. Her stats:

Fails:

1 draco bow
1 majestic earing
1 Tallum Gloves

Successes:

2 Dark crystal Shields
3 Majestic earings
2 Majestic necklaces
1 Tallum gloves
1 Dark Crystal gloves
4 Majestic Rings
1 Nightmare shield
Can Orvieta pay a visit to Gustin?
Failed 4 Majestic earrings and a Soul bow a few days back. ><
So, where's all the real Warsmiths that actually craft more than 10 items total...
Failed:
Forgotten Blade
Halberd
2xMajestic jewelry
BW helmet(60%)

Success:
DC Robe
5xMajestic jewelry
Soul bow
2xFlaming dragon skull
3xWizard tear (60% rec)
Kris(60%)
Greatsword(60%)
Forgotten Blade
4xTallum Glaive
Bloody Orchid
BotMT
Tallum Helmet
3xElemental Sword
Saint Spear

note - my warsmith is level 45, so all this was crafted on craft shops.
Do your crtafting in the church in Giran WITH a Cardinal in the party. I have never had a fail.

PS OK, I admit I never tried it, but it never failed!

Do your crtafting in the church in Giran WITH a Cardinal in the party. I have never had a fail.

PS OK, I admit I never tried it, but it never failed!



You forgot that the Cardinal has to be dancing!
The Rain Dance? ROFL

Do your crtafting in the church in Giran WITH a Cardinal in the party. I have never had a fail.

PS OK, I admit I never tried it, but it never failed!



Pfft, a single loli can do so much better at the Church doors ^^

but IC set i buyed (525m for full +3 unsealed)


thats cheaper than a +0 breast plate on my server ><



So, where's all the real Warsmiths that actually craft more than 10 items total...



too poor to craft imo
Not exactly sure about them all but the ones that I do remember were...

Succeeded + Failed -

DC Robe +7/-1
DC Helmet +1/-1
Majestic Helmet +1/-1
Majestic Boots +2
Majestic Leather Armor +2
Nightmare Leather Armor +1
Nightmare Boots +1/-3
Tallum Heavy Armor +2
Tat Earring +3
Tat Necklace +1
DLE -2 (this one I did with my bro and it hurt badly)
Soul Bow +1
Soul Seperator +1
Doom Crusher +1/-1
SoM +1/-1

and various other a grade jewels and such I can't rmember atm.
i succeeded about 24/25 of A and S jewels
i failed 7 60% bw helms in a row

i know its not asked but my success for OE is
failed 5/6 +4 weapon enchants
spent 50 million adena trying to +6 a set of brig and all i managed was 1 pair of +4 gaiters (using the get them all to +4 then try for +5 method)
Started to craft 60% yesterday:
BW Tunic - failed
Tallum PA - failed
Methinks maybe I should stop at that :(
Succeeded: Maj boots, DC gloves, Nightmareshield, Maj jewelset.
Failed: 3 Maj jewels, and drac bow(T_T)
im to poor to upgrade :P
After few more A/B crafting attempts @ 60% makes me want to delete my WS. Fail, Fail, Fail!
So still all B/A 60% crafts failed.
Success:
Carnage Bow
SOM
DC Robe
DC Helm

Fail:
None

OE Success:
SLS*TSU +11
SLS*SLS +8
Homu +10
Som +8
Soul Sep +11

OE Fails:
Too many to mention...
I only Craft 100% items if I can't Craft something at 100% then I just buy it whole. So my Craft Success is 100% :D


Now My OE is different


OE Success:


Dark Screamer +10
SLS*SLS +10
Homu +10
Kech*kech +9
Soul Sep +9
Cursed Dagger +10
Gastra Bow +7
SOL +6
Goat Head Staff +6
SOM +5
Raid*Raid +5
Homu +4
Lance +4

Ton of +10 D Daggers I made and sold for money


OE Fails:

Ton of D Grade Daggers
and others 2 many 2 mention...
Crafting:

1x Nightmare Helmet Fail
1x Dc Helmet Fail
1x DC Leather gaiters Fail
1x Majestic Helmet Fail
1x Majestic Gloves Fail
1x Zubei Leather shirt Fail
2x Phoenix Necklage Fail
1x Phoenix Earring Fail
1x Zubei Leather Shirt Fail
1x Doom Boots Fail
1x BW Boots Fail
3x Majestic Plate Fail
2x Majestic Necklage Fail
5x BO Ring Fail
2x BO Earring Fail
1x BO Necklage Fail


2x Phoenix Earring Success
1x BO Necklage Success (100%) ....
3x BO Earring Success (100%) ....
A Lot of 100% C grade stuff.


I hate 60%.


I only Craft 100% items if I can't Craft something at 100% then I just buy it whole. So my Craft Success is 100% :D


:)
Trying to get SA for my Duals.

SLS*Tsu +4 Fail
SLS*SLS +4 Fail
Swordoflimit*Swordoflimit+4 Fail
SLS*SLS+4 Fail

So I just bought it instead...
And every 60% I have tried has failed.
These are the ones I can remember, as well as the recent ones.

Tallum Helm - Fail
Tallum Helm - Success

Phoenix Ring - Success
Phoenix Ring - Success
Phoenix Necklace - Success
Phoenix Earring - Success
Phoenix Earring - Fail

Great Sword - Success
Tallum Blade - Success

...If my results on the PTS last time were any indicator though, I'm due for a massive string of failures....
On the PTS i crafted 2 sets of Dynasty with no fail :confused:
wish it would be like that on the live
I dont remember every single craft, tbh when I was poor and could barelly afford 1 craft I think I always failed them, like Kris/Wizards Tear etc
But I do remember 1 crafting session that pretty much made my game in end game
3x Drac Bows
2x Forgotten Blades
2x Arcana Maces
all succeeded in a row ... it was pretty weird, earned this earned that earned the other :p I was thinking I d succeed maybe 3/7, maybe make a couple of hundred mill and ended up making close to 2 bil
I'm up to 16 DC helm failures going for +6 and never got passed +4...


WTB DC helm+6 !
yet another general census
So far I have attempted to make Kris 60%, twice.

I have failed both times. (odds: 16%)

I have only done one OE, which was to bring my Crystal Dagger to +4.

As an aside, I also almost never land blows or backstabs, so I think it has been determined by NCsoft that my character will have nothing go right for him at all.

Failing a b-grade weapon twice in a row literally broke my character, in terms of money. Fortunately I have very kind friends. I frankly think it is obscenely harsh. I can understand the fail rate on over-enchantment - you're gambling in order to tweak performance. But for core things like armor and weapons.. it just feels really brutal.

Without some combination of friends, supportive clan or ebay, I don't think a genuine new player could survive a failed b-grade weapon, for example, unless they were doing a lot more trading on the market than actual hunting in the game.
I spent my high Bgrade hunting with a Darkscreamer /w Focus... thats fail for you.
Tallum gloves - Success
Dark Crystal shield - Success
Doom boots - Success

Dark Crystal shield - Failure
Dark Crystal Shield - Success
Dark Crystal Robe - Success
Great Sword 60% - Success

From all the above only the first 2 crafts were for my Dwarf. The rest were for her crafting shop's clientelle.

She is always nervous when she crafts for others. ****** people make her unhappy. :(

Now she expects a landslide of failures...

I spent my high Bgrade hunting with a Darkscreamer /w Focus... thats fail for you.



I'll be honest with you.. if I were raising a dagger character again, I would intentionally stick with screamer and simply try to OE it, rather than making a Kris.

Just to elaborate - when the game was new and B-grade was the best you could get, the current system made a lot of sense to me. Basically C-grade was as far as most people could go. And a minority of players, either through luck, dedication, or unscrupulous activity, could have B-grade.

But now that B is no longer anything special, and not even very long-lived (in terms of usefulness), it just makes no sense.

p.s. Noldor your personification of your crafter made me smile. Over the weekend I had a clanmate helping me out. He logged on two accounts so we could have two dwarves handling the subassemblies (there were a lot..). Anyway after the thing went poof, he had his two female dwarves doing the socialsad emote to eachother over and over. Your description made me think of that scene lol.
if it wasnt for the insane SS consumption C grade weapons have I d agree with you ^^
I did this as a gladiator :D

p.s. Noldor your personification of your crafter made me smile. Over the weekend I had a clanmate helping me out. He logged on two accounts so we could have two dwarves handling the subassemblies (there were a lot..). Anyway after the thing went poof, he had his two female dwarves doing the socialsad emote to eachother over and over. Your description made me think of that scene lol.



Let's say I *do* feel bad when people trust me with their crafts and I fail to deliver the product. Of couse, we all know it's 60 or 70% crafting, but a hella lots of mats and effort for some. :(
Crafting can be fun.. And far too time consuming LOL

This dun include all my fails but it's most of what I've crafted for myself or with friends over the last year and a bit (not including C grade)

<ul type="square"> Blue Wolf Helmet
2x Sealed Blue Wolf Gloves
2x Blue Wolf Gaiters
3x Blue Wolf BreastPlate
2x Sealed Blue Wolf Boots
3 Soul Bow
4 Sealed DC Boots
5 Sealed DC Gloves
4 Sealed DC Robe
Sealed DC Helm
4 Sealed Nightmare Shields
2 Sword of Miracles
Soul Seperator
5 Sealed Majestic Rings
5 Sealed Majestic Earrings
3 Sealed Majestic Necklace
1 Sealed Phoenix Necklace
2 Sealed Phoenix Rings
1 Sealed Phoenix Earring
Dark Legions Edge.
Sealed Dark Crystaline Leggings
18 Sealed Majestic boots
14 Sealed Majestic Gloves
Sealed Majestic Light Armor
Nightmare Gauntlets
Nightmare Boots
9 Sealed Tateossian Rings
7 Sealed Tateossian Earrings
4 Sealed Tateossian Necklace
Sealed Major Arcana Gloves
Sealed Major Arcana Robe
2x Arcana Mace
3x Draconic Bow
1x Angel Slayer
yesterday i crafted a bunch of bsps and they didn't brake!!!!!!111
Started to make A-grade sets for my Arbalester and an SpS

Tallum Gloves - Failure
Tallum Stockings - Success
Tallum Leather Armor - Failure
Tallum Tunic - Failure

if it wasnt for the insane SS consumption C grade weapons have I d agree with you ^^



Well, for example my crystal dagger takes 3 CSS so that's costin me 3x18=54 adena per swing (goin by market prices). Kris will use 1 BSS per swing, but that could cost me anywhere from 75 to 125 adena, depending on whether I can find any BSS for sale that day.

So, yeah it's using less SS, but it's sure not saving me money. &gt;,&lt;
You forgot to take into account the number of swings to kill a mob.
C dagger 10 swings @54 = 540
B dagger 5 swings @75 = 375
B dagger 5 swings @125 = 625

So if you get bss for less than 108 (540/5) each you actually make profit. (if the hits needed to kill are half of DS)

But if it takes more swings to kill it, then it's not so profitable:
B dagger 7 swings @75 = 525
B dagger 7 swings @125 = 875
Profit threshold 77

Note: dont have any data to back up my calculations as I just took the number of hits from my head.
It's flawed...., daggers are low p.atk classes. The impact on swings per kill on Weapon Grade is like
10 Crystal Dagger
8 1/2 with Demon Dagger at best.

Especially Dagger swings per mob, depending on Blows / "Crits" and SAs. P.atk itself doesn't have any significant impact. Unless you go from a +0 C to a +10 B...

Daggers Are Expensive- :D

If you like substanial damage and get the best out of your shots, (-Focus),
If you're feeling like god himself smiles on you everyday, Go with CD ;) You will need to land styles alot to make up focus.
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Failed a Tallum Plate today :(

Daggers Are Expensive- :D



Agree. They really are. You're swinging fast and blowing through shots like there is no tomorrow.


If you like substanial damage and get the best out of your shots, (-Focus),
If you're feeling like god himself smiles on you everyday, Go with CD ;) You will need to land styles alot to make up focus.



Nice way of putting it. But crit rate no longer influences landing rate of styles. Anyway - overall I agree with you - another reason I would not go with crystal dagger again. Better to stay with dark screamer, and if you want more damage, take your chances at OE.