Why those low exp rates? Is NCSoft scared that people will find out to soon that Kamael will suck in end-game that they don't allow them to start end-game on PTS?
Ok. They boost everyone to max level later on so how can they hide something like that?
Think before posting.
If level boots are at random like last PTS it will suck. Interlude PTS I started at lv76 and never got the lv78 and lv79 level boosts because it only applied to the logged in players.
This is the first chronicle/CT thing with a new race, so they really need to test the lowbie stuff. Or else it'll have typos and bad translations like you see in-game for the original races that have been there since '04. Realistically, if it's not fixed now, it's permanently wrong.
I'd love to test my skill tweaks but not gonna grind to 77 for it.. Not seeing much pre-40 that would be worth testing and could only be tested on an existing class.
I haven't read anything about it, but I'd asume everything is higher than the live servers. Go find out what the average is for a keltir or w/e and I'll let you know when I'm in ;)
23.10 here and I have the morning off. Mine's pretty much done, last of the textures I think. I'll be up till the break of dawn followed by a few hours sleep then work.
Wont even bother with it. I'm not gonna grind to 79 on 5x rates just to test one frikkin build. GG NCSoft, Kamaels ARE NOT WHAT EVERYONE WANTS TO TEST.
Erm, I started at around 1800 and it's now 2316 and it's still not finished. It's installing the Theme Park now. I'd give it 5-6 hours depending on your location. Your bandwidth won't matter because it's not downloading anywhere near my maximum.
And on these boards, you have 30k registered users, of which maybe, MAYBE 5% post. THat does not represent the playerbase. And honestly, they could have made all OTHER races lvl 80 with 2 subs and left Kamaels at lvl1 for people like you to test.
You need to actually test how to hit mobs? You can still test skills, quests, class change, whatever even if you have 80lvl buffers running behind you.
You cannot test lvl 79 skills and other changes to the endgame with lvl1 toons unless you spend weeks grinding on the PTS or happen to be one of the lucky ones playing still when they do a boost.
Now, who's testing all the new lvl 79 skills? New Olympiad? Not you guys grinding happily on your Kamaels. And not I since I will not spend such a long time on a TEST server just to be able to test a few skills. Kamaels hold 0 interest for me. All I care in CT1 is past lvl 78.
then just wait for the boost. god...im sorry but im sick of the complaining. it happens EVERY single PTS. different people same sob story.
ok start talkin crap...3...2...1...GO!!!
From what I remember the boost always goes to people who have toons already registered. You don't have to be logged in for that to happen, only have created a toon. I also think it's the first character you create, or the highest level one you have.
Maybe Alyra could confirm the plans for the boost so people know whether or not to bother playing.
From what I remember the boost always goes to people who have toons already registered. You don't have to be logged in for that to happen, only have created a toon. I also think it's the first character you create, or the highest level one you have.
Maybe Alyra could confirm the plans for the boost so people know whether or not to bother playing.
And most normal people are not gonna stick around for several weeks, waiting for that miracle to happen. I personally will need lvl 79 AW, PR, Destro for testing, as well as BD, SwS, PP, WC and 2 EE/Bishop to support it all. Now, even tho I have multiple accounts, I dont have that many. When the boost comes, there's only a handful of people playing on the PTS anymore, and they're all some crappy Kamaels. How the heck am I gonna test something then?
If we collaborate I'm sure I can dedicate a class on one of my accounts for you and tell you all about it. Seriously.. just keep in touch and I'll see what I can do.
Like Charmille I am not interessed in rolling a Kamael to test with in the first place. I want to test my current main classes in end-game, or atleast at a level I haven't reached yet.
I have leveled enough chars to level 40 and couldn't care less. Don't wanna take the PR and EE 2nd class again. Okay I know that the Kamael quests need to be tested for non-translated lines, typo's and wrong locations, but eventually PTS will be mass-pvp and RB hunting in the last week.
The things I really want to test are;
Instances and VR nerf with a Warsmith or Warlord. And maybe learn some more PVP skills with my PR.
The Kamael quests will be checked by many people, so don't worry about that. Your nerf can probably be tested once the boost comes. Make yourself the toons you want to play with later, spend an hour or so getting them XPed a little then come back after the boost.
I personally will need lvl 79 AW, PR, Destro for testing, as well as BD, SwS, PP, WC and 2 EE/Bishop to support it all.
You personally aren't needed for testing anyway. All the stuff you wanted to test has been already tested on Korean PTS and live :p
Is that why we have the SAME buggs as they had on the Korean PTS?
Newsflash: They use the original server files and client files that was released the first day of the Korean PTS on our PTS.
The Korean PTS had problems that all the armor mapping was incorrect for the Kamael (the Kamael ended up invinsible or grey)...guess what...so have we.
If you don't want to test the Kamael race that needs ALOT of work from lvl 1 then don't.
All the other PTS's that we started out in S grade ended up in mass PvP after mass PvP and PK's that resulted in that MANY bugs wasn't found or fixed during the PTS and that is the REASON we even have a PTS.
Don't like it? Then don't play on the PTS...it's as simple as that.
I want sound on PTS more then more Kamael newbies I can one-hit kill =P
And you are doing what now on the public TEST server?
PKing isn't testing. It's ruining testing for the people that wants to test other things than PvP...like quests and PvE (mobs need to be tested...they could had been given incorrect stats like the mobs in Imp Tomb on the last PTS)
Im another that wanted to test the new race. Why? Shoot, Ive been in this game since closed beta, I wanted to see if they were adding something new that would be more fun thanthe toons I am playing now. So I am testing. If you want to just test the other end of things, then make the toon you need and then play live until the boost.
I DO think they should inform people of HOW pts is going to be played out in regards to a boost etc, instead of this huge guessing game that leads to complaining about things no one on the other end even cares to listen to. Yo, NC, its called communication! :)
I dont mind the whole starting from lvl 1 thing with nothing, i just wish the rates were a bit higher. Although i do enjoy playing my "wannabe" Arbalaster i wish i could progress a little faster so i could spend some time messing with quests (even though most L2 quests are crap) and new content rather than grinding.
You personally aren't needed for testing anyway. All the stuff you wanted to test has been already tested on Korean PTS and live :p
Same way as the Kamaels were tested, now, by your logic then none of you Kamael testers are needed either. Personally, I think you're wasting precious air, stop breathing now.
You personally aren't needed for testing anyway. All the stuff you wanted to test has been already tested on Korean PTS and live :p
Same way as the Kamaels were tested, now, by your logic then none of you Kamael testers are needed either.
Some of them are needed. Those who report NPC bugs. The rest of them aren't.
And, frankly, hordes of Kamael wiping out Ol Mahum Novices made it harder for me to check that my class change quest wasn't broken by the translation efforts.
I would like to test the nerf to frenzy and VR in relation to aoe groups/pvp. I would like to test the new skill that Titans get that is supposedly similar to PoF. I am not however planning on grinding through all the lvls to get to Titan, 5x or not. I have no interest in playing a Kamael.
you know in the past they've given boosts. So you level at wildly accelerated rate for a while, then they shut down & multiply the exp you've earned by enough to put everyone into lvl 75 (or whatever's needed for testing).
On the one hand, I'm sure they have more than enough people to run the PTS without people who aren't interested in lowbie stuff. On the other hand, it's naive to think they're gonna make people grind for months before they can test the new 3rd class change. Rabid forum flames notwithstanding, the NC folks aren't idiots.
We dont actually do gameplay testing in NA. THe NA PTS is mainly to test the translations from the korean code. If I remember right, they are not alllowd to adjust any aspect of actual gameplay, so testing the 3rd class mechanics would be a moot point anyway.
I'll be posting more info on the rates, boosts, and PTS schedule today. :)
Thanks, but shouldn't have this been posted before the PTS came up so everyone didn't cry about the current situation? Just my point of view but i think everyone would agree.
I'll be posting more info on the rates, boosts, and PTS schedule today. :)
Thanks, but shouldn't have this been posted before the PTS came up so everyone didn't cry about the current situation? Just my point of view but i think everyone would agree.
I don't agree.
1. The goal of the PTS is testing, information is released in accordance with that goal.
2. People cry and whine too much. Trying to make that kind of person happy is like feeding the trolls.
I got stuck on the 'You are currently logging in. Please wait a moment." part. So, I removed the l2.ini and tried a check-file because I read that somewhere. Now... "The connection to the update server has been terminated." Urgh.
What? You mean not everyone got that email?
The one that said 'Hi there, nice L2 player.... we're setting up the PTS exactly how you tell us to. What do you want us to do first?'
The company is using their customers to do work. Not only that, but the customers have to pay for the priviledge to do this work.
To do that sort of social engineering, they need to reward their rubes with what Tom Sawyer termed gratifaction. In order to get maximum gratifaction, sometimes you can't let people know the whole story.
You can count on that NC folks have this CT1 thing charted and planned out in exquisite detail. You may imagine the PTS part of it involves getting people to test the lowbie stuff and then test the highbie stuff and end it all with some gratuitous chaos.
I believe every single PTS so far has granted lots n lots of gratifaction for those who involved in it. You'll actually see GMs, maybe even PK them - you'll get to OE s-grade stuff, you'll get the sneak peek into fortresses to get a leg up on your foes when it goes live.
But understand that if you actually knew you're white washing Aunt Polly's fence, it'd take all the fun out of it. Relax, let it go, play along.
What? You mean not everyone got that email?
The one that said 'Hi there, nice L2 player.... we're setting up the PTS exactly how you tell us to. What do you want us to do first?'
And that really does not answer the needs. We want dates, not some generic "We plan to do this and that over the course of several weeks and will post updates when we feel like it."
So NCSoft again.
There's no explanation on the way the boosts are done(logged players, all created characters, what?), the timeframe for doing them, the extent of the boosts, like lvls, gear, skills etc.
And that really does not answer the needs. We want dates, not some generic "We plan to do this and that over the course of several weeks and will post updates when we feel like it."
So NCSoft again.
There's no explanation on the way the boosts are done(logged players, all created characters, what?), the timeframe for doing them, the extent of the boosts, like lvls, gear, skills etc.
And that really does not answer the needs. We want dates, not some generic "We plan to do this and that over the course of several weeks and will post updates when we feel like it."
So NCSoft again.
There's no explanation on the way the boosts are done(logged players, all created characters, what?), the timeframe for doing them, the extent of the boosts, like lvls, gear, skills etc.
No info, zero value.
Completely agreed.
Many of us created our character we wanted to play on the 1st slot, and a 2nd slot character to play now to screw around with...
What if its highest level bumped? Hows it going to work? When will it?
Charm hit it on the head. PTS is already losing almost all of its "fun" value with the utter lack of NPC Cats, making grinding a pain in the azz.
*sigh* yea, that post was pretty much what we all already knew or guessed. 'At some point' doesnt answer the question. Its no wonder people scoff at the idea of actually getting information from NC before the fact. *scrunches up face* why do I keep hoping lol
If the NPC server drops at 3AM CET, for example, who's going to be around to say "They're going!". The only people who work nights, I'd guess, are remote GM's who probably work remotely and are pretty much call center staff rather than higher paid technical staff.
Sure, great. I tried to (and did it). But what could I test with lvl 4 Kamael? :) I didn't even had the chances to level my Kamael.
If the server crashes once again, of course I will join pvp.
So, you only played the server for maybe 2 minutes flat?
Since thats about when you'd hit level 4 LOL
Well... mystery solved then.
Kama logged in, killed the last 6 gremlins, and broke the server!
Now, everyone say "thank you, Kama" for breaking the PTS. If you have to ask why we don't have mobs, you all have Kama to blame. Doesn't it suck when the actions of one person mess things up for everyone else?