HE's Need a Boost, They're So Gimp!

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500 Crit. Rate, and a 3500 P.Attack is clearly not enough for success in L2.
Your joking right?
Like thats a great exageration...got to be.
No Sir. Even though I have more CP/HP than most classes, and ridiculous stats, the class clearly needs a boost. were just so... so.. underpowered. :(
i hear se's are getting a major boost in ct1 with their supremely uber vr skills. you really should reroll...^^
i meant are the stats for real.

As in, 3500 Patck and 500 crit rate.

i meant are the stats for real.

As in, 3500 Patck and 500 crit rate.



Thats low balling it TBH.

(The P.Atk, not the Crit rate, cant get any higher then that)

But yeah thats real ;)

i meant are the stats for real.

As in, 3500 Patck and 500 crit rate.



The p.atk can get quite a bit higher, as already said, that's low balling it.

i meant are the stats for real.

As in, 3500 Patck and 500 crit rate.



Another one Converted.
actually im going SR. I once had an HE awhile back and loved it. I could 2 shot everyone within 3 lvls of me. had an aawesome OE'd bow lol. but my account got hacked and i lost him. since then HE's have become so popular (theres 5 in my clan) that i want something different. and i like being fast so SR is my choice.

Its just a little disheartening knowing that i wont be able to do the raw damage they do. but even so i know ill be able to hold my own in PVP so im not worried.

Semi-FoTM FTW! woot!
Truthfully,
Whenever I play the PTS, or if I would make another archer right now, I would go SR. Good choice, stick with it. ;)
lol. right on. i just like the idea of being hella fast and they are a good and balanced class. im looking forward to it.

Truthfully,
Whenever I play the PTS, or if I would make another archer right now, I would go SR. Good choice, stick with it. ;)



LOLSR.

I woudnt touch one of those if you payed me. I'd rather be a SWS with a Bow. Then I'm useful and can hit almost as hard ;P
pr ftw ******ez


Truthfully,
Whenever I play the PTS, or if I would make another archer right now, I would go SR. Good choice, stick with it. ;)



LOLSR.

I woudnt touch one of those if you payed me. I'd rather be a SWS with a Bow. Then I'm useful and can hit almost as hard ;P



Id like to see an SWS hit an SR with a bow. oh wait! he can't cuz hes already stunned and cant get in range of the SR. GF tho. :p
maj heavy,+5con,zaken,resist shock ftw

maj heavy,+5con,zaken,resist shock ftw



+ Song of Wind = LOLSR.
first of all your not gnna find a ton of SWS's with that setup. a little expensive, no?
second even if you do get thru the stun you won't be able to last 4 shots MAX! especially if SR is fully buffed!

BTW have either of played SR? i really think only comptetion for SR is another archer, like a PR or HE.

first of all your not gnna find a ton of SWS's with that setup. a little expensive, no?
second even if you do get thru the stun you won't be able to last 4 shots MAX! especially if SR is fully buffed!

BTW have either of played SR? i really think only comptetion for SR is another archer, like a PR or HE.



A little expensive? What world do you live in son?

Thats standard setup and Zaken is far from expensive. (Its one of the cheapest boss jewels)

Your what, not even 40 and trying to tell us how its done?

Yes, I've played a SR past A grade, no I'd never do it again. How far have you played a SR?


first of all your not gnna find a ton of SWS's with that setup. a little expensive, no?
second even if you do get thru the stun you won't be able to last 4 shots MAX! especially if SR is fully buffed!

BTW have either of played SR? i really think only comptetion for SR is another archer, like a PR or HE.



A little expensive? What world do you live in son?

Thats standard setup and Zaken is far from expensive. (Its one of the cheapest boss jewels)

Your what, not even 40 and trying to tell us how its done?

Yes, I've played a SR past A grade, no I'd never do it again. How far have you played a SR?



Nope your right im not even 40 on my SR.

But for you to think that just because i havent reached Agrade on him doesn't mean i don't understand the game and how an SR functions.

If an SWS has a bow its going to have to get a heck of a lot closer to hit the SR. The SWS might have a chance if they are close. But theres no way a SWS could be able to survive all the SR skills (SS,DS,PS repeat) and then stop and get enough shots off to take the SR down.

Nope your right im not even 40 on my SR.

But for you to think that just because i havent reached Agrade on him doesn't mean i don't understand the game and how an SR functions.

If an SWS has a bow its going to have to get a heck of a lot closer to hit the SR. The SWS might have a chance if they are close. But theres no way a SWS could be able to survive all the SR skills (SS,DS,PS repeat) and then stop and get enough shots off to take the SR down.



Truthfully, you have absolutely no clue what your talking about.
what part?! please tell me all knowing one. tell me how i am wrong and then i could then have a clue.
For one, a SWS is faster then a SR with Wind up.

For two, a SR isnt spamming skills. No Archer spams skills...newb.

For three, even if you spammed every single skill a SR has, it would not kill the SWS.

Fourth, Hi, I'm a CP Pot. Do you know what I do?
you know it sucks but your right...

no matter how crappy i feel now i guess i really didn't understand archer class PVP at high lvls.

*walks away with head down, bow string torn and ego crushed.

ps. sorry for being such an [Censored] know it all.
sr can [censored] bd/sws with rapidfire i believe... but anyway keeping a melee class at >501 range isnt all that hard with an SR [with a slow bow]. maybe a little harder with song of wind up. anything close to full buffs SR wins. just PP buffs i think SWS might have a chance. arrest, entangle... who knows
With just PP buffs and enough CP pots my SWS (not S-grade) beats equal level archers , even HE. 2x weight limit on dagger helps me carry about as many Cp pots as any HE :P
land rate of arrest on equal lvl non-mdef passive classes? just fmi :P
Hmmm, from my experience it lands around 30-40ish % if they have Mental shield, and more like 95% if they don't. This is sub 76.

You can forget about landing it on people with boss jewels.. though in CT1 you will be able to land it fine if you also have the same boss jewels. That is my assumption, not actually tested it :)

PS. Arrest is a physical skill, so mdef doesn't matter! :)

With just PP buffs and enough CP pots my SWS (not S-grade) beats equal level archers , even HE. 2x weight limit on dagger helps me carry about as many Cp pots as any HE :P



HE's are trouble though... yeah you have wind, but they can dash away if you get close, its just more CP pot contest like you said.

SR's though? Seriously... LOLSR.
with the atk speed of bow users, doesnt dash refresh really slow? i mean how many times will he use it? 1?2?
Refreshes pretty quick TBH...

Unless your talking completely unbuffed, then ya :X
Switching to a dagger to use Dash is pretty hard, right? Not like you're losing any Health benefits from SA or anything.
HE is gimp until they get a skill that can one shoot what ever they target and that has an AoE effect radius of 4000

with the atk speed of bow users, doesnt dash refresh really slow? i mean how many times will he use it? 1?2?



With buffs, including Blessing of Sagittarius which shortens skill reuse time and switching to a dagger before you pop dash, no, the reuse time is very short.
cool, i never heard of that nice dagger-switching dash.
When you're 78 you can also use Focus Skill mastery and you have a nice chance of the skill refreshing instantly for perma-dash :P
i think they should make dash stack just in case! :o
LOL that would be funny! MEEP MEEP!!!

When you're 78 you can also use Focus Skill mastery and you have a nice chance of the skill refreshing instantly for perma-dash :P



Getting a Dash that lasts 30 seconds is also pretty nice, escaped quite a few people with that happening lol.
Forgot that effect ^^ Cause I'm still a lowbie 77.. pretty funny with me being one of the first Sagi's on loLionna O_o Got owned by RL and Beer. Then again Beer+RL is pretty unreal :o

Forgot that effect ^^ Cause I'm still a lowbie 77.. pretty funny with me being one of the first Sagi's on loLionna O_o Got owned by RL and Beer. Then again Beer+RL is pretty unreal :o



You and Coja were 2 of the first, along with FearMyAnger. You and FMA were 77 with Hamstring Shot pretty fast too.
mad xp skillz! :)
I want to XP, especially now that Kamael++++ is coming with level 85 restriction. It will be pointless to PVP against people 8 levels above me with the eva/acc boost.. 18 more base than me, yeah right.. UE+hope for dbl shot/leathal shot then :P

I had more time when I was in school.. :3
Sagittarius need a mobile UD that lasts 5 minutes, and refreshes in 30 seconds to be more effective in PvP. That way the game is more balanced out I think!
..and each time oyu use it, it stacks with the previous UD!! The longer you're in the fight the more uber you become!!11!!1!!1
And don't forget the skill that consumes 1 d grade crystal that has 90% chance of summoning any epic jewelry you choose from a list.

oh I almost forgot the most important skill of them all. The passive skill that kills everything (players, mobs, RBs epics bosses etc etc etc) around you if they are to close to you (range 1000) with no PK or karma penalty for killing unflagged bypassers...clan/alliance and party members are excluded, you also gain 1m exp/sp per kill and 100m adena.