B grade armor for Gladi, Blue Wolf or doom???

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I was checking the stats on both sets of armor, and Doom seems more inclined for tanks given the + CON and HP, while BW increases attack speed 5% or so, and adds STR...

So BW seems like the right choice, but I was thinking maybe going for doom and just getting a +5 STR -5 CON when seal validation is over, which would give +3 STR -3 CON in then end, and then just an HP boost. Is that a bad idea? I level daily and I am pretty sure I will grind through B grade within a few weeks... so I won't be hurting too bad without the +5 attack speed.

All through C grade I've used the Full Plate set which gives an HP boost and thats it. So I think it won't be much different using doom.

Just wanted your guys' opinions, thanks.
BW add +5 RUN speed, not atk speed.

BW for PvE AND get +5 STR :>. Ignore Doom.
bw for pve
bw for pvping ranged classes
doom for pvping melee classes exclusively
Its strange for me every one ask why glad should wear doom or bw. My answer is that when wearing Doom you are more chalenging. PVP may be harder but when you wear Doom your look of char is in my opinion better and game play not differ too much. Im sure in BW you roon faster but due too Doom special abilities you get harder to kill more criticals dealing mass killing machine.
I prefer Doom even if for PVP is a little worster then BW. What about PVE. I had friend in Doom on high lvl stages of game who sayed Doom owns for PVE.
If Doom is only for Tankers answer me why Warlord should wear Doom not BW. I never seen WL in BW.
on the other hand all the WL ive seen in doom, and they were few, got owned in catas and were total newbs to begin with.

and no. doom doesnt own in pve. never did.

btw is that friend of yours a WS? or DA?
People that know what they're doing go BW during B-grade. End.

Even tanks should go BW.. why? Because you XP faster. End.

Another reason? CP pots. You need more HP, go to a different spot or don't use -CON dyes.

Yet another reason for glads, more STR = more crits with skills.

Same Pdef as Doom.

People that know what they're doing go BW during B-grade. End.

Even tanks should go BW.. why? Because you XP faster. End.

Another reason? CP pots. You need more HP, go to a different spot or don't use -CON dyes.

Yet another reason for glads, more STR = more crits with skills.

Same Pdef as Doom.



I Use BW Light :)
lol. u'd be better of with pl :P
BW Heavy. End of story.
But if you already have Doom heavy from another of your toons, sure, it's perfect, no point in wasting effort.
PL seems weak, but I hear so many mentioning it.. hmm, what's the deal anyway?
bestest armor for those that have good buffers to support their toon
If you can keep your HP up, PL until Tallum Heavy. Problem with PL is the low pdef.

B-grade can be done in a few days, one day if you got ample OOP support.
I see, so the +4 str at the very low -con seems great indeed, if you have a good support.
Yeah, PL has THE best bonuses for a DD then comes tallum heavy and BW heavy imo.

As far as the OP's question; BW heavy is the better armor for a glad in bgrade. Though if you already have Doom heavy from another toon, just stick with that, its really not a big deal in bgrade :)

lol. u'd be better of with pl :P



My BW Light has lot P defence it's from my PW main and the whole set is +5

Never got PL and with Kamael coming out a full PL set is 30 mill not even worth it for a low p defece C grade armor

I have a 61 SE Buff Pet with BTB 5 and +5 DEX -5 Con on my Glad Light Elf (sub) so it works :)
Of course it works, i used BW myself for PVP and harder spots during my B-grade days way back. Other than that, PL works until 75/76.
i would take +5str instead of +5dex anytime

i would take +5str instead of +5dex anytime



True but My glad looks like A Light elf and I'm use 2 the speed I hate seeing her slow like a Human so i went for the dex.
lol ok then :o :eek: :)
The few speed u get from dex will never change the fact that you will be outrun by the majorty of classes 98% of the time...
Zubei or Doom, ignore BW unless you plan on going all out PvE, but even then its a weak set. It amuses me all these people that say go BW, its one of the worst sets in this game, and the one thing that confuses me even more is when speaking of PvP, people say use BW heavy for B grade? LOL?

The best all around set you can get for a Glady at this level is simply Zubei. Its relativly easy to get, and or really cheap to craft or even buy. Try your luck and overenchant a set, and with some some decent luck, Zubei will make the best set, hands down. the only downside to Zubei - Its really [censored] look.
Grats for lying in your sig, must've meant 4x on all of those.. am I right am I right?! :p

Seriously though.. Zubei bring you NOTHING as a Gladiator except for +5% pdef.. which you also get from BW because it's higher grade armor.

Sooo.. lets compare.
Zubei: 5% pdef which puts it on par with BW.

BW: +3 STR give more damage, same pdef, +5 speed makes you a tiny bit faster, 5% higher hp regen to counter the -CON from the set. Less Dex. STR > DEX for dealing damage.

Mission /failed

:)


Edit.. PVP in B-grade? Hmm.. how often does that happen during the 2-3 days or less it takes to get to A-grade..

The few speed u get from dex will never change the fact that you will be outrun by the majorty of classes 98% of the time...



Not trying out run them on my glad I can do that on my main I just wanted the look of being faster I got use to it on my PW. Yea just a little speed but it's better then it was and I will take it. Plus I attack faster I hate slow attack speed also. In fact on my glad Most of the Time I use my PW Dagger then my dules. with just using VS I kill just as fast or faster.
Doom Hvy was ok for pvp when B grade was the highest grade in game which it aint for a long time, right now if you like to pvp work to get fast to at the very least A grade aka pve ftw so get BW Hvy & 5+ STR 5- CON with 4+ DEX 4- CON tats for fastest xp.. when 61+ get tallum hvy and dama*tallum duals and continue grinding untill 78

btw fastest way of xping would be by using a pole in cata/necro's
doom is best pvp armor for b grade hands down. trust me on that

and omgeez on using anything else than duals or two-handed swords on a glad. sls*sls plainly sux, and u xping faster with a dagger shows that. get crit duals plz asap

doom is best pvp armor for b grade hands down. trust me on that

and omgeez on using anything else than duals or two-handed swords on a glad. sls*sls plainly sux, and u xping faster with a dagger shows that. get crit duals plz asap




ok ok

WTS +10 SLS*SLS :p

(wish you could trade B grade with mammon)


and omgeez on using anything else than duals or two-handed swords on a glad. sls*sls plainly sux, and u xping faster with a dagger shows that. get crit duals plz asap



Best XP a Glad can get is with... <drumroll>... a polearm! So there :)

I found this interesting regarding armor for a Glad Glad armor wiki (http://lineage2.stratics.com/wiki/A-Grade_for_Knight_Classes)



Umm that article is about Knights, Gladiators are a warrior class, not a knight class. Knights are DA/Pally/TK/SK

And just LOL at the guy talking about Zubei. The only time any kind of Zubei was ever any good is what evasion was overpowered way back in like C2? and that was the light armor, the heavy armor has always sucked.
Zubei might make a come back though, with the increased evasion/accuracy as you level up. (LA that is..)

Maybe the days of Evasion & Water tanks arent over!
zubei is good if you are poor and u do not want to put dyes no matter what and want a pvp/pve mix. its balanced

getting doom heavy and a +3str-3con would be better tho for a pvp/pve mix.
getting bw heavy and nullifying the tats would be even better due to run speed++

its all about how big your wallet is. i'd never choose zubei tho, it looks [censored] on everything other than a LE, where it looks super [censored], but hey... :o

:p

zubei is good if you are poor and u do not want to put dyes no matter what and want a pvp/pve mix. its balanced

getting doom heavy and a +3str-3con would be better tho for a pvp/pve mix.
getting bw heavy and nullifying the tats would be even better due to run speed++

its all about how big your wallet is. i'd never choose zubei tho, it looks [censored] on everything other than a LE, where it looks super [censored], but hey... :o

:p



The only zubei I ever see is worn by members of bot trains that got it as a drop.

There is a reason for this.
Only worn Doom on my Glad, liked Zubei but wouldn't wear it soley cause of the looks, but I made a +5 set all around for a Clannie of mine. Never touched BW on my glad, nor would I really.
why not? get a +2dex-2con dye if u dont like the idea of lowering your dexterity. actually i hated it too, thats why i used a doom light set at first. but str is the way to go in pve. even with no dyes bw wins doom easily. +3str-2dex > -3str hands down. theres a 6str difference there. waste of shots tbh ;/
I wore Zubei Heavy when I was in B grade back in C2. I liked how it looked TBH and it suited me well. Zubei (http://www.lineage2.com/images/item_screens/357_0_1.jpg) vs BW mech armor... (http://www.lineage2.com/images/item_screens/358_0_1.jpg) It was cheap to get and offered better survivability then BW even if it wasnt that much. For PvP a Doom heavy wearing Gladiator could beat a BW heavy wearing Gladiator the majority of the time.

I am talking about C2 here, things have changed from back then. In interlude I would wear BW heavy, if I had the option to change the sprite & textures to make it look like Zubei.
Nobody said it looked good on anything else bur DE's :/
If you look on textures i like Doom. BW was awesome before but now i got enough of it. It dosent says i wont wear BW but any way for easy B Grade equiping take Zubei or even Avadon. They are easy to get. Much more easier then other sets.
If you play for stats BW or Doom thats what i say.
Some one sayed some thing abut light sets. Yes they some how good cause you are fast. But you die fast.