Is there any possibility

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To completely remove these new hot keys since they just [censored] up everything and just use the old one. Who the hell came up with these new hotkeys anyway, worst idea ever, cant even overlap all keys on some useless key that you dont use. This crap must be the biggest pile of junk ever. All i know is that you failed to make a more WoW-like hotkey system and [censored] stuff up entirely. Solution?
Somone has a potty mouth.
The new hotkey system does suck.
I guess the OP isn't happy with the new hot keys. Hm on PTS I didnt even realise that much of a difference.
WoW sucks anyway. Lineage Hot keys FTW!!!

seriously though, it is annoying when one of the skills keeps jumping off the bar and becoming the cursor.

but that said, WoW sucks! :D

WoW sucks anyway. Lineage Hot keys FTW!!!

seriously though, it is annoying when one of the skills keeps jumping off the bar and becoming the cursor.

but that said, WoW sucks! :D

At least their hotkey system doesnt suck.

and ya, the most played MMO in the world sucks, sounds logical.
three clicks to restore it how it was: expand to two bars using the << key. click the arrow on the EXPANDED bar to show slot set 1. switch the MAIN bar to slot set 2.

you owe me 4 B adena for that HAX way of making it EXACTLY how it was before.

At least their hotkey system doesnt suck.

and ya, the most played MMO in the world sucks, sounds logical


I would say that is his personal opinion which happens to be exactly the same opinion I have of WoW.

three clicks to restore it how it was: expand to two bars using the << key. click the arrow on the EXPANDED bar to show slot set 1. switch the MAIN bar to slot set 2.

you owe me 4 B adena for that HAX way of making it EXACTLY how it was before.

ehm, gonna try that, sounds wierd

k, that didnt work, next.



At least their hotkey system doesnt suck.

and ya, the most played MMO in the world sucks, sounds logical


I would say that is his personal opinion which happens to be exactly the same opinion I have of WoW.


of course thats a personal opinion, but personal opinions about games you haven't even end-game played aren't worth anything.

I guess the OP isn't happy with the new hot keys. Hm on PTS I didnt even realise that much of a difference.



Do you use all 36 keys, open all at the same time? If yes, you would have noticed the change.


three clicks to restore it how it was: expand to two bars using the << key. click the arrow on the EXPANDED bar to show slot set 1. switch the MAIN bar to slot set 2.

you owe me 4 B adena for that HAX way of making it EXACTLY how it was before.

ehm, gonna try that, sounds wierd

k, that didnt work, next.



At least their hotkey system doesnt suck.

and ya, the most played MMO in the world sucks, sounds logical


I would say that is his personal opinion which happens to be exactly the same opinion I have of WoW.


of course thats a personal opinion, but personal opinions about games you haven't even end-game played aren't worth anything.



LOL it does. youre trying to use number keys above the qwerty line as hotkeys right? and failing miserably? switching around hotbar 1 for 2 and 2 for 1 puts all the hotkeys from bar 2 onto the 1 to = keys, and the skills on bar 1 onto f1 to f12.

otherwise, if you fail at taking directions which you clearly do, then DISBLE enter chat and piddle yourself in your kamael.



and ya, the most played MMO in the world sucks, sounds logical.



WoW, Nascar, Fast food, and religion are all popular. This does not make them right. :p

of course thats a personal opinion, but personal opinions about games you haven't even end-game played aren't worth anything.


So knowone knows whether they like a game unless they play it until end game. Be real I knew with in the first 2 hours I didnt like WoW I didnt have to get to end game.

From your statement obviously you liked it. Good for you I didn't.


Do you use all 36 keys, open all at the same time? If yes, you would have noticed the change.


NO... I have never used all 36 keys open at the same time. Might be why I dont have an issue. Obviously people are having an issue with it. If the change it back fine with me. I dought that will happen but there is always hope.


three clicks to restore it how it was: expand to two bars using the << key. click the arrow on the EXPANDED bar to show slot set 1. switch the MAIN bar to slot set 2.

you owe me 4 B adena for that HAX way of making it EXACTLY how it was before.

ehm, gonna try that, sounds wierd

k, that didnt work, next.



At least their hotkey system doesnt suck.

and ya, the most played MMO in the world sucks, sounds logical


I would say that is his personal opinion which happens to be exactly the same opinion I have of WoW.


of course thats a personal opinion, but personal opinions about games you haven't even end-game played aren't worth anything.



first of all how do you know he hasn't?
second i didn't know you had to get all the way to end game in order to have an oppinion bout the HOTKEYS!
third, when you swear that much about hotkeys you have some serious self-control issues. id get that checked out if i were you. :)



three clicks to restore it how it was: expand to two bars using the << key. click the arrow on the EXPANDED bar to show slot set 1. switch the MAIN bar to slot set 2.

you owe me 4 B adena for that HAX way of making it EXACTLY how it was before.

ehm, gonna try that, sounds wierd

k, that didnt work, next.



At least their hotkey system doesnt suck.

and ya, the most played MMO in the world sucks, sounds logical


I would say that is his personal opinion which happens to be exactly the same opinion I have of WoW.


of course thats a personal opinion, but personal opinions about games you haven't even end-game played aren't worth anything.



LOL it does. youre trying to use number keys above the qwerty line as hotkeys right? and failing miserably? switching around hotbar 1 for 2 and 2 for 1 puts all the hotkeys from bar 2 onto the 1 to = keys, and the skills on bar 1 onto f1 to f12.

otherwise, if you fail at taking directions which you clearly do, then DISBLE enter chat and piddle yourself in your kamael.

first off, i dont play with enter chat on, second, the only thing im trying to do is use f1-f12 for my main bar, i dont want any hotkeys for the two other bars i have open, and yes, i fail at that since nc messed everything up with the new keybindings. failing at taking directions, not really.




first of all how do you know he hasn't?
second i didn't know you had to get all the way to end game in order to have an oppinion bout the HOTKEYS!
third, when you swear that much about hotkeys you have some serious self-control issues. id get that checked out if i were you.

i didn't, but i assumed right. i didn't say you had to have end game experience to be able to have an opinion about hotkeys, i said you have to have played the game more than just 2 hours to be able to know how a game is, how it works etc.
"of course thats a personal opinion, but personal opinions about games you haven't even end-game played aren't worth anything. "

from the looks of that statement, that is exactly what you are saying. if you haven't endgame played you can't have an opinion.

i didn't, but i assumed right. i didn't say you had to have end game experience to be able to have an opinion about hotkeys, i said you have to have played the game more than just 2 hours to be able to know how a game is, how it works etc.

Not quite what you said but ya I knew within 2 hours I didnt like WoW. I didnt say anything about the hotkey setup in WoW. Hotkeys were just fine I just didn't like the game.

I understand you being frustrated at the changes. Sucks having to change after getting use to playing a certain way. Though I imagine it will be quicker to adjust than to wait for them to change it back.

"of course thats a personal opinion, but personal opinions about games you haven't even end-game played aren't worth anything. "

from the looks of that statement, that is exactly what you are saying. if you haven't endgame played you can't have an opinion.

I was simply saying that if you haven't even reached level 70 in WoW, your opinion about it does not matter to me, since you probably don't even know how stuff in it works. What's so hard to understand?

Now get back on topic and fix hotkeys.

I was simply saying that if you haven't even reached level 70 in WoW, your opinion about it does not matter to me. What's so hard to understand?



LOL thats even funnier. So now your saying unless you like WoW your opinion doesn't matter. So in the same logic since you don't like the hotkey setup in L2 your opinion doesn't matter.
Nothing, but you didn't originally say that they didn't matter to YOU. You said they didn't matter, period.

Make sense?

PS. this is such a ******ed argument about symantics (sp?), im sorry for even begining it.


I was simply saying that if you haven't even reached level 70 in WoW, your opinion about it does not matter to me. What's so hard to understand?



LOL thats even funnier. So now your saying unless you like WoW your opinion doesn't matter. So in the same logic since you don't like the hotkey setup in L2 your opinion doesn't matter.

Not at all what i said, but i guess where you come from reading and understanding simple stuff is something very advanced. Anyhow, lets discuss this some other time.


Nothing, but you didn't originally say that they didn't matter to YOU. You said they didn't matter, period.

Make sense?
PS. this is such a ******ed argument about symantics (sp?), im sorry for even begining it.

Well, I can agree on that i was a bit unclear, yes.

And yes, this is a dumb discussion.



I was simply saying that if you haven't even reached level 70 in WoW, your opinion about it does not matter to me . What's so hard to understand?



LOL thats even funnier. So now your saying unless you like WoW your opinion doesn't matter. So in the same logic since you don't like the hotkey setup in L2 your opinion doesn't matter.


Not at all what i said, but i guess where you come from reading and understanding simple stuff is something very advanced.


LOL where I come from if you play a game long enough to advance you character to lvl 70 you like the game. But then again if you buy a lvl 70 toon you don't have to like it, but you can have an opinion of the game.




I was simply saying that if you haven't even reached level 70 in WoW, your opinion about it does not matter to me . What's so hard to understand?



LOL thats even funnier. So now your saying unless you like WoW your opinion doesn't matter. So in the same logic since you don't like the hotkey setup in L2 your opinion doesn't matter.


Not at all what i said, but i guess where you come from reading and understanding simple stuff is something very advanced.


LOL where I come from if you play a game long enough to advance you character to lvl 70 you like the game. But then again if you buy a lvl 70 toon you don't have to like it, but you can have an opinion of the game.

Getting to 70 takes like a week. I've played games more than a week that i suddenly stopped to like.
DUDE! You don't seem to understand that words matter. People are not able to read you're mind so when you say something you have to be willing to clarify what you said, not get all butthurt because people don't understand or think you meant something else. You're also typing, which compounds the problem because now people don't hear how you said somehing.

Its not right to insult people for reading what you said and not perfectly understanding what you were implying.





I was simply saying that if you haven't even reached level 70 in WoW, your opinion about it does not matter to me . What's so hard to understand?



LOL thats even funnier. So now your saying unless you like WoW your opinion doesn't matter. So in the same logic since you don't like the hotkey setup in L2 your opinion doesn't matter.


Not at all what i said, but i guess where you come from reading and understanding simple stuff is something very advanced.


LOL where I come from if you play a game long enough to advance you character to lvl 70 you like the game. But then again if you buy a lvl 70 toon you don't have to like it, but you can have an opinion of the game.

Getting to 70 takes like a week. I've played games more than a week that i suddenly stopped to like.



Thats only true if you understand the game before you play. Most people don't buy a new game and know exactly what to do.
Example:
When i first started L2 it took me like a month to even hit 20 cuz i had no idea what i was doing. (I also kept getting PKed lol)

DUDE! You don't seem to understand that words matter. People are not able to read you're mind so when you say something you have to be willing to clarify what you said, not get all butthurt because people don't understand or think you meant something else. You're also typing, which compounds the problem because now people don't hear how you said somehing.

Its not right to insult people for reading what you said and not perfectly understanding what you were implying.


No one's butthurt, I'm probably the last person in the world that gets butthurt. Also, i don't really think that I've insulted anyone, except NCSoft. Well, it really depends on what you count as an insult i guess.
Anyhow, im gonna sleep. GL finding a solution to my problem lolz.

Thats only true if you understand the game before you play. Most people don't buy a new game and know exactly what to do.
Example:
When i first started L2 it took me like a month to even hit 20 cuz i had no idea what i was doing. (I also kept getting PKed lol)

Well, my first char took me 10 days to play up to 70, but yea, experience of course has impact on levelingtime.


DUDE! You don't seem to understand that words matter. People are not able to read you're mind so when you say something you have to be willing to clarify what you said, not get all butthurt because people don't understand or think you meant something else. You're also typing, which compounds the problem because now people don't hear how you said somehing.

Its not right to insult people for reading what you said and not perfectly understanding what you were implying.


No one's butthurt, I'm probably the last person in the world that gets butthurt. Also, i don't really think that I've insulted anyone, except NCSoft. Well, it really depends on what you count as an insult i guess.
Anyhow, im gonna sleep. GL finding a solution to my problem lolz.



Not at all what i said, but i guess where you come from reading and understanding simple stuff is something very advanced.

That is a total insult!
Well, barely lol. Anyhow im gonna magically get this topic ontopic again.

I've noticed that theres no easy way to change keys that are already binded by default. For example, if I wanted to switch A and S, I would have to assign both keys to unused keys, such as Q or J. Then I would reassign them back again, switching A and S. This is a big pain in the [censored] for those people have enter chat on, and want to use 1 - + keys for hotbar 1 instead of the f keys.

I've also noticed that sometimes key bindings dissapear for no reason at all, and I have to restore to default in order to get them back. Then I have to start all over because of this bug.



It is typical ncsoft. They implement something that should be good for the game, but they do it the worst way ever and it just causes problems that should never occur.



another issue due to the new binds is that if you're typing symbols in chat that use alt like @, it will trigger your second bar #2 shortcut

very dumb.


BOOM, discuss, etc.

Well, my first char took me 10 days to play up to 70, but yea, experience of course has impact on levelingtime.


Something sounds terribly wrong here. Wonder what answer I would get on the WoW forums if I ask if this is possible for a new player to achieve.

How about we ask a mod to close this one and stay on topic on the thread you quoted.
/signed