Increase failure rate!

Since nukes can fail, it only makes sense that other spells should fail.

Heals should fail and heal only 1 hp.
Buffs should fail and last only 1 second.
Dances/songs should fail and last only 1 second.
Spoil should fail and last only 1 second.
Crafts should fail and the item created should only last 1 second.
Dagger skills should fail and do only 1 damage.
Gladiator skills should fail for 1 damage.
OL CP heals should fail and heal 1 cp.
Summoning should fail and last 1 s.
Hero skills should fail and last 1s.
Castle cresting should fail.
Plating a flag should fail.
Summon CP pots should fail.
All things should fail.
Well atleast NCsoft failed in releasing a decent update.

Since nukes can fail, it only makes sense that other spells should fail.

Heals should fail and heal only 1 hp.
Buffs should fail and last only 1 second.
Dances/songs should fail and last only 1 second.
Spoil should fail and last only 1 second.
Crafts should fail and the item created should only last 1 second.
Dagger skills should fail and do only 1 damage.
Gladiator skills should fail for 1 damage.
OL CP heals should fail and heal 1 cp.
Summoning should fail and last 1 s.
Hero skills should fail and last 1s.
Castle cresting should fail.
Plating a flag should fail.
Summon CP pots should fail.
All things should fail.
Well atleast NCsoft failed in releasing a decent update.

YES! I vote for that!

I really don't see why everyone is complaining about this... I fail nukes so rarely I don't really even notice it.

I really don't see why everyone is complaining about this... I fail nukes so rarely I don't really even notice it.

Who is complaining? I just think that the game should be balanced!

I really don't see why everyone is complaining about this... I fail nukes so rarely I don't really even notice it.

That's cause you play your Sagi more and don't really seem to give a **** about your Sorc (and no one faults you in that )

I haven't played my he since ct1 came out.

Since nukes can fail, it only makes sense that other spells should fail.

Heals should fail and heal only 1 hp.
Buffs should fail and last only 1 second.
Dances/songs should fail and last only 1 second.
Spoil should fail and last only 1 second.
Crafts should fail and the item created should only last 1 second.
Dagger skills should fail and do only 1 damage.
Gladiator skills should fail for 1 damage.
OL CP heals should fail and heal 1 cp.
Summoning should fail and last 1 s.
Hero skills should fail and last 1s.
Castle cresting should fail.
Plating a flag should fail.
Summon CP pots should fail.
All things should fail.
Well atleast NCsoft failed in releasing a decent update.

All those angry people about nukes that make them feel (and only at 25% :p) what it is to really PLAY the game = LOL

Since nukes can fail, it only makes sense that other spells should fail.

Heals should fail and heal only 1 hp.
Buffs should fail and last only 1 second.
Dances/songs should fail and last only 1 second.
Spoil should fail and last only 1 second.
Crafts should fail and the item created should only last 1 second.
Dagger skills should fail and do only 1 damage.
Gladiator skills should fail for 1 damage.
OL CP heals should fail and heal 1 cp.
Summoning should fail and last 1 s.
Hero skills should fail and last 1s.
Castle cresting should fail.
Plating a flag should fail.
Summon CP pots should fail.
All things should fail.
Well atleast NCsoft failed in releasing a decent update.

lol, wow.

Since nukes can fail, it only makes sense that other spells should fail.

Heals should fail and heal only 1 hp.
Buffs should fail and last only 1 second.
Dances/songs should fail and last only 1 second.
Spoil should fail and last only 1 second.
Crafts should fail and the item created should only last 1 second.
Dagger skills should fail and do only 1 damage.
Gladiator skills should fail for 1 damage.
OL CP heals should fail and heal 1 cp.
Summoning should fail and last 1 s.
Hero skills should fail and last 1s.
Castle cresting should fail.
Plating a flag should fail.
Summon CP pots should fail.
All things should fail.
Well atleast NCsoft failed in releasing a decent update.

Ah, can any of those things crit? No? Then I fail to see any validity in your absurd comparison. The fastest levelling classes are a tiny bit slower. That's life.

(well, glad skills and so on can crit, but they already fail sometimes)

Sure they can crit!

Mage Crit!
You hit for 1 dmg

Sure they can crit!

Mage Crit!
You hit for 1 dmg

Heh, i outdamage you on a crit.
Magic crit.
You hit for 4 damage. :p

Since nukes can fail, it only makes sense that other spells should fail.

Heals should fail and heal only 1 hp.
Buffs should fail and last only 1 second.
Dances/songs should fail and last only 1 second.
Spoil should fail and last only 1 second.
Crafts should fail and the item created should only last 1 second.
Dagger skills should fail and do only 1 damage.
Gladiator skills should fail for 1 damage.
OL CP heals should fail and heal 1 cp.
Summoning should fail and last 1 s.
Hero skills should fail and last 1s.
Castle cresting should fail.
Plating a flag should fail.
Summon CP pots should fail.
All things should fail.
Well atleast NCsoft failed in releasing a decent update.

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now u know what it is to miss a shot. [censored] and stop complaining.

Since nukes can fail, it only makes sense that other spells should fail.

Heals should fail and heal only 1 hp.
Buffs should fail and last only 1 second.
Dances/songs should fail and last only 1 second.
Spoil should fail and last only 1 second. Spoil already fails
Crafts should fail and the item created should only last 1 second. you fail 60% and 70% crafts
Dagger skills should fail and do only 1 damage.Dagger skills fails quite often
Gladiator skills should fail for 1 damage.
OL CP heals should fail and heal 1 cp.
Summoning should fail and last 1 s.
Hero skills should fail and last 1s.
Castle cresting should fail.
Plating a flag should fail.
Summon CP pots should fail.
All things should fail.
Well atleast NCsoft failed in releasing a decent update.

seriously cry more, you still make more and faster exp than any other class out there (maybe exept a frenzied Destroyer IF they have managed to get around the frenzy and pole VR nerf).

and btw I don't see any Warlord complaining for the huge nerf they gave him with the VR nerf as I see the nukers complain of.

I really don't see why everyone is complaining about this... I fail nukes so rarely I don't really even notice it.

/agreed

If I fail, I hit the spell again and succeed.
It's become so second nature that I don't notice it anymore.

and btw I don't see any Warlord complaining for the huge nerf they gave him with the VR nerf as I see the nukers complain of.

Oh you must have missed the threads on this. I beleive they were posted in the PTS when it was first coming out, there was plenty of complaining before it was even released.

I have to say that a melee type missing or failing an attack isnt as critical to them as it is when its a caster. When I fail a spell it means I'm going to be smashed on and I am rather squishy when that happens.

Its so funny, the melee vs caster arguements, though. Melee want to see anything nerf casters cuz they 'level faster' and the caster just wants to stop being nerfed (I STILL miss sleep, tyvm...the least they could have done was nerf its landing during pvp and left us alone for pve). Imagine if those of you with a stun that lands most of the time (archers *shakes a fist*) and NC came in and made it take 10 times as long to get it off. Ohhh I wish they would, I would love to come in and read the threads (and we know the forums would be filled with them) and just say 'cry more' as a typical response. :p

I have to say that a melee type missing or failing an attack isnt as critical to them as it is when its a caster. When I fail a spell it means I'm going to be smashed on and I am rather squishy when that happens.

An attack that miss IS critical for a dwarf, destroyer and warlord with polearm. Miss = no health gained from VR and now with the VR nerf it's even more critical for a poler to hit the mobs than before.

Since nukes can fail, it only makes sense that other spells should fail.

Heals should fail and heal only 1 hp.
Buffs should fail and last only 1 second.
Dances/songs should fail and last only 1 second.
Spoil should fail and last only 1 second.
Crafts should fail and the item created should only last 1 second.
Dagger skills should fail and do only 1 damage.
Gladiator skills should fail for 1 damage.
OL CP heals should fail and heal 1 cp.
Summoning should fail and last 1 s.
Hero skills should fail and last 1s.
Castle cresting should fail.
Plating a flag should fail.
Summon CP pots should fail.
All things should fail.
Well atleast NCsoft failed in releasing a decent update.

You failed also.

Since nukes can fail, it only makes sense that other spells should fail.

Heals should fail and heal only 1 hp.
Buffs should fail and last only 1 second.
Dances/songs should fail and last only 1 second.
Spoil should fail and last only 1 second.
Crafts should fail and the item created should only last 1 second.
Dagger skills should fail and do only 1 damage.
Gladiator skills should fail for 1 damage.
OL CP heals should fail and heal 1 cp.
Summoning should fail and last 1 s.
Hero skills should fail and last 1s.
Castle cresting should fail.
Plating a flag should fail.
Summon CP pots should fail.
All things should fail.
Well atleast NCsoft failed in releasing a decent update.

srsly, as a caster, just boost your cast speed. you wont notice 1 nuke failing unless youre aoe'ing.

as a melee, boost your atk speed. you wont notice the misses among the many swings.

I have to say that a melee type missing or failing an attack isnt as critical to them as it is when its a caster. When I fail a spell it means I'm going to be smashed on and I am rather squishy when that happens.

You have 900 range. Melee has 40 range. How the [censored] do you get hit with that? Perhaps stop hunting those 6x mobs and go fight some 1x. And learn to move, no one is forcing you to stand still while the nuke refreshes for that 0.5s.

Since nukes can fail, it only makes sense that other spells should fail.

Heals should fail and heal only 1 hp.
Buffs should fail and last only 1 second.
Dances/songs should fail and last only 1 second.
Spoil should fail and last only 1 second.
Crafts should fail and the item created should only last 1 second.
Dagger skills should fail and do only 1 damage.
Gladiator skills should fail for 1 damage.
OL CP heals should fail and heal 1 cp.
Summoning should fail and last 1 s.
Hero skills should fail and last 1s.
Castle cresting should fail.
Plating a flag should fail.
Summon CP pots should fail.
All things should fail.

Oddly enough, some of these I completely agree with.

I also think there should be cursed herbs and pots, albeit with the mobs that drop them giving 6X exp and increased complete drop chance.
:eek:

I have to say that a melee type missing or failing an attack isnt as critical to them as it is when its a caster. When I fail a spell it means I'm going to be smashed on and I am rather squishy when that happens.

You have 900 range. Melee has 40 range. How the [censored] do you get hit with that? Perhaps stop hunting those 6x mobs and go fight some 1x. And learn to move, no one is forcing you to stand still while the nuke refreshes for that 0.5s.



Ahem, in all honesty I *dont* get hit all that often. I always hunt mobs that are 2 sometimes 3 hits and have my casting speed nice and high. However, there are cases where, if a nuke fails, I get smacked. I'm not a wuss though and tend to hunt in areas where there is a thick spawn so I don't much feel like running around where I could draw a nearby agro since I cant sleep an add (tyvm sleep nerf) and certainly cant take additional smackings or running around to pull more that I couldnt handle. Unlike those melee that can typically take on more than one mob at a time. I refuse to change my entire playing style because they increase fail rates, but I *am* allowed to complain about them just as any melee is allowed to complain about their nerfs (but dont get ripped about it near as much eh).

Perhaps get a clue about a persons playing style before you offer advice. Oh but thanks for the concern though. :D

We dont get ripped when we complain about nerfs? Where have you been for the past few years? Oh right, complaining about sleep nerf.

It's fun to look at the world thru tinted glasses.

I wish you would read, I said as much...as much. Next..

no need to make Fail rates increase. Charmille makes up for it. that much fail accounts for everything.

Considering that you've made out of fail, I think you are in no position to judge others.

"I R using Zealot with Bow!!!" -Spudnik

Considering that you're made out of fail, I think you are in no position to judge others.

"I R using Zealot with Bow!!!" -Spudnik

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I have to say that a melee type missing or failing an attack isnt as critical to them as it is when its a caster. When I fail a spell it means I'm going to be smashed on and I am rather squishy when that happens.

An attack that miss IS critical for a dwarf, destroyer and warlord with polearm. Miss = no health gained from VR and now with the VR nerf it's even more critical for a poler to hit the mobs than before.



You only miss some mobs on a polearm swing, so you're getting back enough average.

Considering that you're made out of fail, I think you are in no position to judge others.

"I R using Zealot with Bow!!!" -Spudnik

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Oh noes, I made a typo!! Which is the only thing you can pick on, shows how great you are Spudboy!

Anyone swinging a sword (regular attack) misses regularly.

Anyone casting a spell, up until recently, ALWAYS landed for damage.

They brought in shield defense on spells. Nukers cried.
They brought in failure for spells. Nukers cried.

I think it doesn't matter, to be honest. Like Ashlynn, my nuker manages to survive even with failures.

Considering that you're made out of fail, I think you are in no position to judge others.

"I R using Zealot with Bow!!!" -Spudnik

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Oh noes, I made a typo!! Which is the only thing you can pick on, shows how great you are Spudboy!



falsely quoting me is all you could ever dream of pinning on me, then ?

Wasnt really a false quotation, just worded a bit differently.

And want me to drag the "Why Destroyers use dagger?" lines up? Those were real fantastic material showing your knowledge.

Anyone swinging a sword (regular attack) misses regularly.

Anyone casting a spell, up until recently, ALWAYS landed for damage.

They brought in shield defense on spells. Nukers cried.
They brought in failure for spells. Nukers cried.

I think it doesn't matter, to be honest. Like Ashlynn, my nuker manages to survive even with failures.

Manages is right, there are times I dont know how I make it out alive lol. I'm not really that upset about the nerf, it just seemed silly and I post with full understanding of the frustration of nukers. All the attempts to 'balance' things out by NC seem to fail in the long run. This will never be a balanced game, it just isnt in the cards. The only thing I really really cried about was the sleep nerf, and I openly admit it. This is just another nerf you learn to live with.

Though, the first time I die because of a failed nuke, I am going to come and cry, stomp my feet in protest and shake a fist or two. Just, yanno, warning ya.

aha, fail again i see. Youre getting worse.

just upset cause i suggested something different than cookie cutter destro which is all youll ever be in a game as free, open and heartless as Lineage2.

go ahead.

betcha (betcha!) the info isnt entirely wrong. just ... different.

Not entirely wrong? Just gimping you down to something that even a SE could beat, lol.

Not entirely wrong? Just gimping you down to something that even a SE could beat, lol.

mmmh, not really. fail again. thats a dozen times in a dozen replies. record for the day i think, and par for the course.

Really? Show us this Destroyer of yours then, I'll tell how a SE beats it up then. With a dagger you cant use skills, you wont get anything out of Zealot, you'll only get 50% increase from Frenzy and only 20% from Rage so really, what you gonna do? You'll also lose the bonus from masteries, which is about another 30%. And to add to all that, your accuracy will be so low that you wont hit the SE.

I wonder why I'm even responding to you when you dont know anything about the class.

Nothing like having a mob beating on you or blasting on you with spells while your own spells are not only getting disrupted, they also fail.

Really? Show us this Destroyer of yours then, I'll tell how a SE beats it up then. With a dagger you cant use skills, you wont get anything out of Zealot, you'll only get 50% increase from Frenzy and only 20% from Rage so really, what you gonna do? You'll also lose the bonus from masteries, which is about another 30%. And to add to all that, your accuracy will be so low that you wont hit the SE.

I wonder why I'm even responding to you when you dont know anything about the class.

rofflewaffle.

fail more, clueless.

if youre not going to intelligently reply to me, you should make like a tree and leaf.

Your response shows how little you know and understand, better go back to licking the grease out of the pan Spud, thats all you're good for.

Heals should fail and heal only 1 hp.
Buffs should fail and last only 1 second.
Dances/songs should fail and last only 1 second.
Spoil should fail and last only 1 second.
Crafts should fail and the item created should only last 1 second.
Dagger skills should fail and do only 1 damage.
Gladiator skills should fail for 1 damage.
OL CP heals should fail and heal 1 cp.
Summoning should fail and last 1 s.
Hero skills should fail and last 1s.
Castle cresting should fail.
Plating a flag should fail.
Summon CP pots should fail.
All things should fail.

I agree that Glad skills should fail, but a lot of this stuff just doesn't make sense. Sorry, I think this is a lot of crying over spilt milk.

I would love to see those go in and then have the mage complain yet again when I am out of mana and they dont get dances. Or their MP battery fails all of its rechages and now they have to sit for 20 min regening mp.

NCSoft should create some custom kleenex boxes and send them out to all the mages that are whining about a BALANCE.

i think buffs should fail on the poster an last 1 sec

i think buffs should fail on the poster an last 1 sec

LOL then you just tell him "Sorry dude, you were unlucky. Level without buffs for 20 min."

Since nukes can fail, it only makes sense that other spells should fail.

Lol, you don't want your nukes to fail as often as dwarven spoil currently fails.

Well I don't care. If I fail my heals, you die, I BSOE.

Well I don't care. If I fail my heals, you die, I BSOE.

Or...do you need rez?

/useskill resurection (80%)

skill fail and rez with -80%

"**** skill failed so you lost another 1%-4% exp from the rez" LOL

I read through some of the other threads (seriously people, must we have a buncha threads on the same topic, the other ones werent good enough?) and the replies are interesting, but boy the double standards. *scrunches up her face to ponder that one for a bit*

On one hand, those for the nerf say 'you deserved it, you were leveling too fast, haha cry more'

and on the other hand those for the nerf also say 'what are you talking about, it doesnt change much, just one more nuke.'

So, if it doesnt change much, whats the point? Is there a benefit for this in PvP? Honest question, I dont pvp :p

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Heals should fail and heal only 1 hp.
Buffs should fail and last only 1 second.
Dances/songs should fail and last only 1 second.
Spoil should fail and last only 1 second.
Crafts should fail and the item created should only last 1 second.
Dagger skills should fail and do only 1 damage.
Gladiator skills should fail for 1 damage.
OL CP heals should fail and heal 1 cp.
Summoning should fail and last 1 s.
Hero skills should fail and last 1s.
Castle cresting should fail.
Plating a flag should fail.
Summon CP pots should fail.
All things should fail.

I agree that Glad skills should fail, but a lot of this stuff just doesn't make sense. Sorry, I think this is a lot of crying over spilt milk.



Ye glads skills should fail. But they should also cost 50 mp or something not 200 like they do now. And plz make TSS 900 range. Then we can talk again. I am sorry if glads [censored] you from 40 range. It's your fault you let them get close to you.

srsly, as a caster, just boost your cast speed. you wont notice 1 nuke failing unless youre aoe'ing.

Seriously(that is how you spell the word btw), play the game instead of trolling.