server transfers

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hello, happy new year everyone, i was just wondering is there any update so far on the account services. I'm anxious and was just wondering if there is a launch date for them yet, and maybe an estimated price on them. thank you.
yah, im not expecting a player to know much more than me, this thread is more directed towards the GM's. but if u by any chance do know anything feel free to post :)
I'd expect them to make another sticky once they're ready to publicly announce anything more.

yah, im not expecting a player to know much more than me, this thread is more directed towards the GM's. but if u by any chance do know anything feel free to post :)



They know less than the players O.o
when will be next update info?
telling that is being delay for new chronicle
From Ornery:


I will be posting details of how each service works shortly after the new year, and hope to have them live a couple weeks afterwards.



It's just the first day of the New Year here in NA. Patience my friend.
what is ur definition of shortly?
shortly for me is less that 1 day
Ornery gave an approximate time, not an exact time. If he'd meant they'd give us more info on the 1st of January, I'm sure that's what he'd have said.
Especially since he made that thread already on the 12th of December, I interpret "shortly" as a pretty loose term (especially when I know we're dealing with NCsoft), and could be up to a week maybe. After two weeks, and no info, I'm gonna start wondering.

what is ur definition of shortly?
shortly for me is less that 1 day



Well in my business, "early 2008," means any time in the first quarter of the year. Naturally, I would not take "shortly" as meaning the very first day of the year.


what is ur definition of shortly?
shortly for me is less that 1 day



Well in my business, "early 2008," means any time in the first quarter of the year. Naturally, I would not take "shortly" as meaning the very first day of the year.



I have to admit, in the context of his post, I would say very early first Quarter. I am guessing Jan/early Feb.
Everyone, please remember that Ornery never said exactly which year he was refering to.... - they have burned us in the past and will do it again.
Yeah, there was a notice posted on our boards from the L2 newletter in 2004:

http://www.lineage2.com/newsletter/newsletter2/L2email1_active/L2email01.html

IMO, they better pull through this time, as too many are waiting for them. If no server transfers, their business is lost, period. If there are servers transfers, they will continue to play on the new server, and their business is at least secured for a few months :)

Everyone, please remember that Ornery never said exactly which year he was refering to.... - they have burned us in the past and will do it again.



/agree

probably gonna be:

I wanted to give everyone an update on the status of the planned account service offerings. My goal was to get the services up and running in time for early 2008 . Unfortunately, it's taking a little longer than I expected. Due to the complexity of both the front and back end systems, my new target launch date is early Lineage 3. We are currently in the testing phase for each of the three services. It is very important to me that the processes work as smooth as possible for the players. I will be posting details of how each service works shortly after the new game, and hope to have them live a couple weeks afterwards. I appreciate everyone's patience regarding the delay and in the meantime encourage you to check out all the new content in Lineage 3.

Yeah, there was a notice posted on our boards from the L2 newletter in 2004:

http://www.lineage2.com/newsletter/newsletter2/L2email1_active/L2email01.html

IMO, they better pull through this time, as too many are waiting for them. If no server transfers, their business is lost, period. If there are servers transfers, they will continue to play on the new server, and their business is at least secured for a few months :)



LOL

http://www.lineage2.com/newsletter/newsletter2/L2email1_active/images/L2email01_r12_c1.jpg

"very near future" = 4 years?

http://www.lineage2.com/newsletter/newsletter2/L2email1_active/images/L2email01_r1_c1.jpg
Here is what I don't understand, if they already have server transfers in Korea, why is the process any different in implementing them here?

Shouldn't the hardware used in Korea be the same as here and thus any known issues?

Though maybe that is the issue. It is Korean and they have to wait for it to be translated and then hope the translation is correct.
I bet you it's the man power.

They don't make enough money in US to hire on the ppl who they will need to handle the mass migrations to more popular servers. Plus all the tech support, ppl complaining that they are missing something, whining...etc.

Here is what I don't understand, if they already have server transfers in Korea, why is the process any different in implementing them here?



I agree.

Honestly I think the whole "lost in translation" excuse is transparent and flimsy. Granted, I'm in California and not Texas, but if translations were setting back my profit margin and threatening client retention, you'd **** well believe I would walk out my front door and hire as many of our Korean speaking brothers and sisters as I could find. Hell, this America...we import everything else, why not lure some of the Lineage 2 techs direct from the mothership to make this project reality?

Either way, we'll give it a bit more time and see what they come up with. As it stands, I've already let one account lapse until they've sorted this all out. The other account expires within a couple of weeks. No big deal.

Due to the complexity of both the front and back end systems, my new target launch date is early Lineage 3.


:D :D :D
So many ppl are waiting for it that if they screw it this time, well, i guess they're gonna have a lot of free time to concentrate on Lineage 3 indeed :p

Either way, we'll give it a bit more time and see what they come up with. As it stands, I've already let one account lapse until they've sorted this all out. The other account expires within a couple of weeks. No big deal.



I'm with you...I have two accounts of my own and have 2 friends that are waiting to transfer. If this doesn't become a reality soon we've all decided to move on to another mmo.
Only problem is wich one? Right now I'm both sorry and happy to say L2>All for this type of playstyle. Maybe we get better out of Warhammer in 2008 (Even if I hate graphics) or some other MMO.

The problem is not the game, the problem is Austin Texas...

P.S. And Mumbai (or insert GM city location) India
u dont even have map of hellbound and they say is normal of game.
when new mmo come out and ppl start leaving is when services will come out but they will need to merge servers with mass leaving to warhammer/aoc
Direct from the mothership :D nice

u dont even have map of hellbound and they say is normal of game.
when new mmo come out and ppl start leaving is when services will come out but they will need to merge servers with mass leaving to warhammer/aoc


That must be what it is, they are waiting on 90% of the remaining population to leave so they can finally implement the services in time to merge down to 3 servers. fewer people = fewer problems = SUCCESS!!

Everyone, please remember that Ornery never said exactly which year he was refering to....

The truth can be depressing.

u dont even have map of hellbound and they say is normal of game.



Why should you have a map of hellbound?
I have read in the patch notes (ours or the korean) that as you run around and discover places at hellbound you will eventually fill up the map.

It is made that way by design.
gortag in next months will come out aion/aoc/warhammer a good(majority) will pbb leave because 10/10 servers r 1 side right now.
so is no real challenge and transfer/merging is taking forever to come up.
i guess when that games r release they will release new services after most population have left
I'm sure they will give out details in the next week or so
Fewer people=less money=more problems=game closure

I'm sure they will give out details in the next week or so



lol :)
they dont mind us moving to Aion, its NC's own product after all :p

(thats the only MMO I'm looking forward to atm, though I might try conan if its earlier)


I'm sure they will give out details in the next week or so



lol :)



I wanted to see optimistic ;)

they dont mind us moving to Aion, its NC's own product after all :p

(thats the only MMO I'm looking forward to atm, though I might try conan if its earlier)



I'm with you.. they are going to have the beta soonish. One of the dev's posted in the mmorpg.com aion section. maybe a few more months,


The first part of Korean Closed Beta is over, but there is more to come.

We have planned EU/NA beta for some time during the first half of the year.



or here... (http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/thread/161992)
NCSoft run game = not touching it even with a [censored] long stick.

NCSoft run game = not touching it even with a 39 and a 1/2 foot pole [censored]


NCSoft run game = not touching it even with a [censored] long stick.



I'm willing to try Aion, but after viewing some of the more prevalent sites, I'm going in with sober expectations. Aion doesn't have to be the end-all and be-all of games, but it does have to be every bit as entertaining as L2 used to be.


NCSoft run game = not touching it even with a [censored] long stick.



I'm willing to try Aion, but after viewing some of the more prevalent sites, I'm going in with sober expectations. Aion doesn't have to be the end-all and be-all of games, but it does have to be every bit as entertaining as L2 used to be.



Im dissapointed with what I see of Aion so far, seems like a WoW clone with better graphics and I hate WoW. I just wish I could play L2 in korea where you actually get service for your money.
aion will take few more month on beta.
and european servers r run by diferent branch i heard



what is ur definition of shortly?
shortly for me is less that 1 day



Well in my business, "early 2008," means any time in the first quarter of the year. Naturally, I would not take "shortly" as meaning the very first day of the year.



I have to admit, in the context of his post, I would say very early first Quarter. I am guessing Jan/early Feb.



They meant after chinese new year.




what is ur definition of shortly?
shortly for me is less that 1 day



Well in my business, "early 2008," means any time in the first quarter of the year. Naturally, I would not take "shortly" as meaning the very first day of the year.



I have to admit, in the context of his post, I would say very early first Quarter. I am guessing Jan/early Feb.



They meant after chinese new year.



Which one? :D

Actually, it's my thought that they are in fact working on these services as we really haven't seen any presence at all from NC Soft staff. I mean, usually Alyra is all over this place.

you can feel it in the "air" :eek:





what is ur definition of shortly?
shortly for me is less that 1 day



Well in my business, "early 2008," means any time in the first quarter of the year. Naturally, I would not take "shortly" as meaning the very first day of the year.



I have to admit, in the context of his post, I would say very early first Quarter. I am guessing Jan/early Feb.



They meant after chinese new year.



Which one? :D

Actually, it's my thought that they are in fact working on these services as we really haven't seen any presence at all from NC Soft staff. I mean, usually Alyra is all over this place.

you can feel it in the "air" :eek:



Maybe something else happened to Alyra.



Which one? :D

Actually, it's my thought that they are in fact working on these services as we really haven't seen any presence at all from NC Soft staff. I mean, usually Alyra is all over this place.

you can feel it in the "air" :eek:



Maybe something else happened to Alyra.



Ok, now you are just scarying us! :eek:

meat pies? :)


meat pies? :)



Someone saw Sweeney Todd.. :eek:

Actually, it's my thought that they are in fact working on these services as we really haven't seen any presence at all from NC Soft staff. I mean, usually Alyra is all over this place.

you can feel it in the "air" :eek:



*lurk*

Oh I'm still here, working feverishly on web updates, the newsletter, answering PMs, and popping onto the forums when I have a chance to make sure nothing blew up. ;)

And yes the account services are currently being finalized and tested.
Alyra - you forgot to add: Soon(TM)

hugs.....


Actually, it's my thought that they are in fact working on these services as we really haven't seen any presence at all from NC Soft staff. I mean, usually Alyra is all over this place.

you can feel it in the "air" :eek:



*lurk*

Oh I'm still here, working feverishly on web updates, the newsletter, answering PMs, and popping onto the forums when I have a chance to make sure nothing blew up. ;)

And yes the account services are currently being finalized and tested.



Did you take over for the web guy?

When can we expect an update on these services?


Actually, it's my thought that they are in fact working on these services as we really haven't seen any presence at all from NC Soft staff. I mean, usually Alyra is all over this place.

you can feel it in the "air" :eek:



*lurk*

Oh I'm still here, working feverishly on web updates, the newsletter, answering PMs, and popping onto the forums when I have a chance to make sure nothing blew up. ;)

And yes the account services are currently being finalized and tested.



Omg someone from staff came back!!! I'm glad it was Alrya cause if it was anyone else ....
I wouldn't be surprised if she quit from all this whining...


Actually, it's my thought that they are in fact working on these services as we really haven't seen any presence at all from NC Soft staff. I mean, usually Alyra is all over this place.

you can feel it in the "air" :eek:



*lurk*

Oh I'm still here, working feverishly on web updates, the newsletter, answering PMs, and popping onto the forums when I have a chance to make sure nothing blew up. ;)

And yes the account services are currently being finalized and tested.




nvm

I wouldn't be surprised if she quit from all this whining...



I would be surprised if there wasnt atleast a few NC fanboys around.


Did you take over for the web guy?

When can we expect an update on these services?



No, web content updates have always been a part of my many duties. :) *juggle* I just don't do the database side of things (skinning, writing script, etc.). I finished updating the New Player Guide section of the site before the holidays. Right now we're (it's a collective effort on this one) working The Library section of the site, including the Items & Equipment database. I'll make little announcements as things get done. :)

Our QA team is currently testing the account services, and I have not been given the details yet (I'll have them once the testing is complete).


I wouldn't be surprised if she quit from all this whining...



I would be surprised if there wasnt atleast a few NC fanboys around.



Sshhh, hes leveling his wolf... dont mess with his RP time Charm!



Did you take over for the web guy?

When can we expect an update on these services?



No, web content updates have always been a part of my many duties. :) *juggle* I just don't do the database side of things (skinning, writing script, etc.). I finished updating the New Player Guide section of the site before the holidays. Right now we're (it's a collective effort on this one) working The Library section of the site, including the Items & Equipment database. I'll make little announcements as things get done. :)

Our QA team is currently testing the account services, and I have not been given the details yet (I'll have them once the testing is complete).



All the Kamael Weapons all fall under one skin for each grade ^^ Yay Productivity!!!!


Our QA team is currently testing the account services, and I have not been given the details yet (I'll have them once the testing is complete).



Soo...... after 4 more days of testing can we get an update?



Our QA team is currently testing the account services, and I have not been given the details yet (I'll have them once the testing is complete).



Soo...... after 4 more days of testing can we get an update?



What we need is waiting music. You know, the kind that you hear when you're calling "local" customer service in India and they place you on hold.




Our QA team is currently testing the account services, and I have not been given the details yet (I'll have them once the testing is complete).



Soo...... after 4 more days of testing can we get an update?



What we need is waiting music. You know, the kind that you hear when you're calling "local" customer service in India and they place you on hold.



I think people would kill themselves if they had to listen to that crap for months. It is bad enough listening to it for the 30 min you are on hold.
Play artist billy joel...

Play artist billy joel...



play artist John Tesh...

I think people would kill themselves if they had to listen to that crap for months. It is bad enough listening to it for the 30 min you are on hold.


Thank you, one of our clients has support center in India. We work with them on daily basis. We are put on hold on daily basis :p
Thanks for the confirmation Alyra {>



Did you take over for the web guy?

When can we expect an update on these services?



No, web content updates have always been a part of my many duties. :) *juggle* I just don't do the database side of things (skinning, writing script, etc.). I finished updating the New Player Guide section of the site before the holidays. Right now we're (it's a collective effort on this one) working The Library section of the site, including the Items & Equipment database. I'll make little announcements as things get done. :)

Our QA team is currently testing the account services, and I have not been given the details yet (I'll have them once the testing is complete).

. I seriously think merger of servers should come BEFORE server transfers. Merging the servers till you have half of what you have now would solve alot of the problems and disenchantment of alot of players in this game.




Did you take over for the web guy?

When can we expect an update on these services?



No, web content updates have always been a part of my many duties. :) *juggle* I just don't do the database side of things (skinning, writing script, etc.). I finished updating the New Player Guide section of the site before the holidays. Right now we're (it's a collective effort on this one) working The Library section of the site, including the Items & Equipment database. I'll make little announcements as things get done. :)

Our QA team is currently testing the account services, and I have not been given the details yet (I'll have them once the testing is complete).

. I seriously think merger of servers should come BEFORE server transfers. Merging the servers till you have half of what you have now would solve alot of the problems and disenchantment of alot of players in this game.


That may help some. The same stupid people will still be there, just have a lot more people on that server.
It will not change the reason i want to change servers.
Not sure which thread is the "official" regarding transfers due to so many but this one seems the most constructive so I post the question here.

So transfers are being worked on and tested. Thats good and I am sure they will happen eventually. Lots of $$$ to be made from this you know :D

What I would like to see are some details. In order to develope the system for doing transfers you have to have the details of the design layed out. I am sure there are memos on several desks at NCNA that list these details.

Even if transfers are a month or so out knowing things like:
Character can tranfer with

X amount of adena
X amount of items (or no items)
etc...

It would be preferable to see the details prior to the offical launch of the service. That way people will know what to expect.

So is there any hope of getting some details posted?
I think it's more fun to listen to people say what the details are, even though there aren't details yet. Like saying you can only bring what you're wearing, cannot transfer boss jewels, can only bring what is in inventory, etc etc
Well, it's now mid-January, so they could at least give us a more comprehensive update. Take a knee and draw it up in the dirt for us, even if they haven't figured out all of the technical details.
everybody move to Hinde so I can sell all my crap
I would like to. But they have to start those transfers first, and possibly post something about them ahead of time sdo I can prepare my toons and stuff from Gustin :(
-.- This take too long... its not hard to check if the char name exists if it does ask for a new one until it doesnt than dump the char's data record onto the new servers data...
I agree with GrazaX. I imagine folks are busy with other NCSoft products, but leaving Lin2 to idle along the way they have been is really bad. Everyone knows about workforce getting stretched too thin, but dragging this out has gone on way too long. It's not as if the technical stuff is hard to work out -- Korea already has it.
I think they ran out of bananas to feed the code monkeys.
or forgot to grease the wheel for the hamsters.....
Alyra: Can we get some sort of status update? I'm sure someone in the office knows when they plan to have this ready.
they've got their best people working on it as we speak i assure you....


That may help some. The same stupid people will still be there, just have a lot more people on that server.
It will not change the reason i want to change servers.



You will change servers only to find...
.
.
New stupid ppl.

Stupid ppl are part of L2, just like they are a part of human kind. :eek:

they've got their best people working on it as we speak i assure you....



He's the student-worker intern from UT, right?
2 afternoons a week, starting right after he finishes emptying the wastebins. :p

We saw with the CT1 PTS when they left the server unattended for most of a week -- there's simply no talent left at NC working on lin2.
any chance for an update???
Yes:

They are comming Soon (TM)

There.. you have been updated.
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