Bonus Clan Reputation for Raid Points

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From today's maintenance notes:


January 8, 2008

During the maintenance period on Tuesday, January 8, between 10:00 AM and 12:00 PM Central Time (5:00 PM GMT+1 to 7:00 PM GMT+1), the following changes will be made:

Event

* Yuletide Revelries event managers have been removed.
* Launch Event Gatekeepers have been removed.

Clan

* The top 100 Raid-Point-earning clans per server will receive bonus Clan Reputation Points each month. These bonus reputation points will be added during the first maintenance of each month.



Can we get any information on how many clan reputation points exactly the top-raiding clans get, and if all clans in the ranking get the same amount or if the amount is based on the position in the ranking?

Thanks in advance.
The amount of points awarded does vary based on position in the top 100 ranking. I don't have the details on how the points break down, but I've requested that info.
Thanks a lot for the fast reply ^^

The amount of points awarded does vary based on position in the top 100 ranking. I don't have the details on how the points break down, but I've requested that info.



You should be spanking someone now for not telling you in advance, as this question was sure to come.
Oke, I am lost for words now completely.

Does anyone at NCsoft HQ forgot about memo's of how this does NOT work on the NA servers.

I understand that the reward is a nice idea and all that.
However I see nothing but bad in this reward. (Yes, I most be a doom-thinker).

It sounds to me it can be missused more then of what we as a community might gain from it. Like this hero system another threat is advocating that it should be removed from the game as it is.

So again my suggestion:
Fix things first before adding even more stuff.

(Aah well, never mind me.......)
I see much good from this actually. It might be a good incentive for clans to raid more. More raids = more drops = lower prices for A-Grade armors and weapons and lower soulshot prices
More alt clans raiding lower raidbosses with the uber-buffs of their master clans.....
Raidboss's farming all over again.....

I allready stated the idea is a nice one.
But I just doubt that the gain will fall into place as it was intended.

Like I wrote before: I rather they stopped added stuff at all at this time but start fixing issue's first.
You get better raid pts for higher level raids if I recall correctly, atleast raid points are well worht something now lol.
So that means if we rank within the first say... 20 in the server for raid points, we get extra clan rep points?

So that means if we rank within the first say... 20 in the server for raid points, we get extra clan rep points?



* The top 100 Raid-Point-earning clans per server will receive bonus Clan Reputation Points each month. These bonus reputation points will be added during the first maintenance of each month.

Yep.


The amount of points awarded does vary based on position in the top 100 ranking. I don't have the details on how the points break down, but I've requested that info.



You should be spanking someone now for not telling you in advance, as this question was sure to come.



Agreed - Alrya - please in the future, before posting info about Events - please make sure that all the info is available - it just makes NC look bad, and they do a good job with that without stuff like this.
That's basically every clan level 4 and up and a few level 3s as 100 clans is a lot for a server
Gustin can reach.. Hmm maybe 50-60 raiding clans with alt clans included of course. So thats a win - win situation. Nice idea. Rep points is hard to come by when in a small clan. Even though I assume its gonna be like 10 rep points for the 100th and 2000 pts for the 1st..
but hey .. any rep points are good rep points

Clan

* The top 100 Raid-Point-earning clans per server will receive bonus Clan Reputation Points each month. These bonus reputation points will be added during the first maintenance of each month.


just another question about who will get bonus reputation points; top 100 is based on (existing) 'reputation point'-ranking or on (new) 'raid points'-ranking? because any clan of any lvl can earn raid points .... :)
How does this work? Since people leave and join clans throughtout the month? Is it based on the last clan they are in on the last day of the month sort of like hero is the clan your in the day u take hero?
I'm pretty sure it keeps a tally of the amount of Raid Points the clan gets over the month period by its members, and not by adding up all the raid points at the end of the month of its members.
Where can u see how many raid points your clan has, during the month?
And another question. Will the raid points from academy members add to the score?
One would assume yes , but its Nc we are talking about so.. :P
I would also assume since they are getting something for the raid points each month that all counters on the raid points be dropped back to zero or it will always be the same clans who get these points from now on to forever. This also will give those clans that are up and coming a chance at these same benefits especially if they are becoming more and more active.
Pretty sure that raid points were always reset each month, otherwise I would like to open a GM ticket that my points keep getting reset at the end of each month.
This is a nice addition. It will encourage clans to raid (which increases clan organization and strength and member wealth) and helps the smaller clans get clan rep points. I particularly like how NCSoft made it the top 100 clans, not the top 10 or 25, so that the wealth is spread down past the top/uber clans.
...Are there actually 100 clans at all, not to mention that raid on regular basis? :eek:
Well, the mid-size lvl 7 clan I play with has 2 alt lvl 5 clans. I would imagine the larger clans have more. Those will clutter up the top 100.

I see much good from this actually. It might be a good incentive for clans to raid more. More raids = more drops = lower prices for A-Grade armors and weapons and lower soulshot prices

how often do raids actually drop the full weapons?
Don't think it'll change anything drastically
Raids don't even drop alot of parts anymore, so it really wont affect the economy all that much. Alot of the higher bosses get done already as they lvl crystals, or have quests that can give clan rep.
I'm not really sure what to think...

My hunch is it won't be a new easy way to get lotsa CRP, that the bonus CRP from this won't be so huge as to lay low the practices of academy and sieging.
pretty sure my clan had the top raid points of any clan on erica, we got around 4500 points added.
Raid farmers gonna own a lot of those raid points! But I still welcome the addition. Finally those points are worth something.

pretty sure my clan had the top raid points of any clan on erica, we got around 4500 points added.



Cha-ching! :)

pretty sure my clan had the top raid points of any clan on erica, we got around 4500 points added.


your clan has earned 100 reputation point(s) :eek:
How did you guys get rep points for RB when this just started and from reading the post it you get them on the first maintance of the month.

Did the clan leader get a message?

Or yet again, NCSoft figured out a way to f this all up by not doing what it said in the post.
Any update on how this works points gets distrubuted etc Alyra??


How did you guys get rep points for RB when this just started and from reading the post it you get them on the first maintance of the month.



Since this was applied at the first one, everyone got them.. duh? :P

Looks like its 5000 or so for top and all the way down. (Unless that 4300 was top, but I doubt that.. odds are its a even number, I know RM on Franz got 3000)
did they get any kind of message or just here ya go rep pts?



How did you guys get rep points for RB when this just started and from reading the post it you get them on the first maintance of the month.



Since this was applied at the first one, everyone got them.. duh? :P

Looks like its 5000 or so for top and all the way down. (Unless that 4300 was top, but I doubt that.. odds are its a even number, I know RM on Franz got 3000)



considering my party has the top raid people in #1-9 and my cardinal is #1 on the server every month...

but we got 4500 when CT1 hit as well, and we were top then, so I think the top is 4500 points.
I sent a few questions off, and am waiting for a reply.

Raid farmers gonna own a lot of those raid points! But I still welcome the addition. Finally those points are worth something.



My friends (3 of them) made 4 destroyers to doing raid bosses and support behind them all active played with everyone 2 boxing sometimes 3 boxing like a pp etc.. did low level raids all the way up.. they topped Kain points on all 7 toons for 7 months straight. Raid farmers got nothing on that
Your thinking too little personally.

7 people, topped the list. Ok, now how about if 80 farmers are next on the list and they are all in the same clan.

Guess what? Your friends just lost.
That's a healthy chunk of points, regardless.
I'm pleasantly surprised that the devs would give so many crp for a group activity. I guess when I write it, it makes good sense to give crp for raiding, but myself I thought we'd be grinding 0-40 academy throw-aways ad infinitum.

Your thinking too little personally.

7 people, topped the list. Ok, now how about if 80 farmers are next on the list and they are all in the same clan.

Guess what? Your friends just lost.



there are no raid farmers on erica. (they only do aq and zaken)
I have some more info on the raid point ranking system (and will be adding this info to the website at some point). This system awards the top 100 Raid Point-earning clans on each server bonus Clan Rep. Points once a month. These points are awarded during the first regularly scheduled maintenance of the month.

Do Raid Points earned by Academy members count toward the clan’s overall Raid Point score?

Yes, they do.

Below is a breakdown of the ranking system and the points awarded to each rank.

<ul type="square"> Rank 1 = 2,500 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 2 = 1,800 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 3 = 1,400 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 4 = 1,200 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 5 = 900 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 6 = 700 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 7 = 600 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 8 = 400 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 9 = 300 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 10 = 200 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 11~50 = 50 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 51~100 = 25 Clan Reputation Points
As always, something that sounds good turns out to be total crap :P
Sheesh, they give you something you didn't have before. They give it to you for free. And you still complain!?!?!

*mutters about ungrateful and sour silly people*

TY NCSoft! :)
Yeah, like those 12-100 getting 50 or 25 CRP are gonna be grateful for something that they wont even notice lol.

Ranks 1-10 will be taken by the dominant clans in dominant allies when they do Baium etc. As if they need more CRP lol.




How did you guys get rep points for RB when this just started and from reading the post it you get them on the first maintance of the month.



Since this was applied at the first one, everyone got them.. duh? :P

Looks like its 5000 or so for top and all the way down. (Unless that 4300 was top, but I doubt that.. odds are its a even number, I know RM on Franz got 3000)



considering my party has the top raid people in #1-9 and my cardinal is #1 on the server every month...

but we got 4500 when CT1 hit as well, and we were top then, so I think the top is 4500 points.



I hope you're not using any type of programs to run a full party farming raidbosses.

I hope you're not using any type of programs to run a full party farming raidbosses.



I'm using one called "l2.exe". Am I in trouble now? :eek:
lol, I was referring to kayonsi, with his insanely high level carechters in his signature and claiming to be top raid rankings every month with 'his' party.........
I like the idea, I hate the weighting towards the top. I do agree that it will be the same top 10 clans getting something they don't need or use. The top clan on Bartz right now has 88k of rep points. They really don't need another influx of those since they are getting the Heroe's rep points in addition.

Now, if maybe the bottom clans started out at around 100 or so and went up in groups of 100 or so with the max being no more than 1000, both giving cudos to those top raiding clans and giving something to the up and coming clans would have had a better balance.
Yeah, feeding the top and increasing the distance to the other clans is just a bad system.
woot i would notice ^^ thanks for the info alyra.

and yeah i always use "l2.exe" for raids also.
Thanks for the information :)
How do you find out what ranking you're clan is? Theres the individual ranking, but no way to tell the clan ranking.
It's based on your individual ranking.

Your clan get rep points depending on what ranking you are in the top 100.

Edit: if you're wondering how your clan ranks in rep points, then it's in your clan functions. alt+n and look at clan info.
Ranking by rep points is not the same as ranking by raid points..
Well any help is good. Ballistas in forts give 15 CRP . I haven't seen anyone complain about those tbh
Why would anyone complain about ballistas? Those are an easy way to farm rep points relatively fast.
Was just an example.Even though my clan is not much into raiding , noone will really complain about getting a few CRP for doing 2 RB per month..
problem is the rift boss...some clans hide in rift and do 10 times each day anakazel and earning 270 raidpoints each kill!!! thats way to much cause u can kill that boss with a bunch of lowbies as long as u have good healer/buffer/dancer

others clans doing "real" bosses and get 40 points per kill for longhorn and stuff. so NC wants us to farm the rift bosses for getting 2 saint spear blades and if u lucky a brez each kill with a 1% chance of lvl'ing a cry from 12 to 13?

do they ever think about their new "great changes"?
the ballistas at forts do you have to be signed up to get the 15 rep points for them?
Nope.
Is it possible to publish the list of the top 100 clans somewhere? I'm interested in seeing how my clan ranks compared to the other non-top clans.
on the map, in the world info button, go look on the raids tab, it will show your ranking.
Thats your personal ranking....
Yes, the personal ranking has nothing to do with the CLAN raid ranking. And the reputation point ranking on the clan info tab also has nothing to do with the clan RAID ranking. Quite simply, there is no way to see what raid rank (or at least within what range of raid ranks) your clan is without closely watching the reputation points before the downtime and immediately afterwards, to see how many points you gained.
And even then, you wont be able to tell the difference between being 12th or 50th or 51st-100th...
thanks for the clairification :) yeah seems kind of strange they dont show that info. maybe they SHOULD. :D
Like they should have updated skill and item libraries on the site too? There's plenty of shoulds....
exactly.
Well, I would settle for the weapons list to contain the weapons they added in C5, and maybe the top a grade ones.
I like the whole idea, I just think the points should be distributed differently, so that No 10 gets 400 CRP, 11-20 get 200, 21-40 100, 41-60 50 and 61-100 25 CRP.

This is only once a month, so I guess it is ok for clans in the middle to get a few more points. Also it seems wrong that the No 10 gets only 100 and the 11-50 just 50 points. So if you are among the best raiding clans (not THE best), you may receive anywhere from 600-50 CRP.... It is a big difference.

Also it would be nice to add a feature, so that you can check the clan ranking. Should not be hard either, since all you have to do is add individual rankings.
Alyra, have these rep points been added yet from today's maintenance? If so, then I'm really curious how you guys are tallying up clan raid points. A lot of my clan members were ranked in the top 200, yet our clan didn't get any rep points added today.

There is no way there could be 100+ clans with more points than us if we have so many members in the top 200. Hell, I doubt there's even 100 clans that do raid bosses on my server period.

There is no way there could be 100+ clans with more points than us if we have so many members in the top 200. Hell, I doubt there's even 100 clans that do raid bosses on my server period.


i was thinking the same thing yesterday after maintance .... but i would be surprised either if it's the top 100 players and not the top 100 clans. somehow i have the feeling ncna messed up something again :confused:
That would kick [censored], ++ rep points for my clan!