attribute stones are a joke

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ouch
crit for 17k ouch
crit for 17k ouch
crit for 17k ouch
Waiting for the ******s to come in here saying "mages got nerfed".
mages got nerfed so bad man... I mean they fail so much now >.<
yeah, man 4000 damage/sec and when I fail that one time I lose like 120mp... it sucks too much, I quit.

/sarcasm off
wow thats insane, only antharas has hit me for that much
Mages only suck if the things you're trying to kill have 5 different types of resistance buffs then 5 different types of resistance gear.

If the target has low resistance(WHich happens more then not) you get this result. Boom.

Mages only suck if the things you're trying to kill have 5 different types of resistance buffs then 5 different types of resistance gear.

If the target has low resistance(WHich happens more then not) you get this result. Boom.



you have no idea what you are talking about.
LOL I only hope some day I can hit for that much damage.

you have no idea what you are talking about.



What? That players without Elemental protection, Resist(Element), Warding, CoV, Elemental Song/Dances. Then Debuffed with Vortex and Surrender get rocked by mages?

The guy in the screen getting hit is obviously very unbuffed for PvP versus mages. In no way would a necro no less be hit for 4k a pop properly buffed. Nevermind the 17k crit that hit him near death.
resists do nothing against mages with 150 attack attribute.

resists do nothing against mages with 150 attack attribute.



O rly? that information would interests me greatly. I concede good sir. What about the new enchants for nukes? Any news on how effective they are compared to good ol power?
well SPS get an enchant to increas elemental power, but sorc doesn;t so that sucks. power is still best I think but not sure for sps one.
Only have to get to lvl 78 I believe for that skill so actually MM's get it not Sps. Anyway it's not like there are hundreds of MM's running around with it.
No No No ... Mages got nerfed again, and they suck and archers can do all this damage... LOL.
4000 on a regular nuke? Seems they were not buffed against you, but I don't claim to have kept up with this new update. Can someone provide some shots of how much damage they do, proving they have buffs against the mage?

4000 on a regular nuke? Seems they were not buffed against you, but I don't claim to have kept up with this new update. Can someone provide some shots of how much damage they do, proving they have buffs against the mage?



I think those 4000 damage was against the necro's summon. The 3k vortex was against the other player. And if there were enough fire stones on the weapon, they will have completely cancelled out any resists the other player had. So in effect the other player got a surrender+fire vortex with added fire damage from the stones against no resists, and for that 3k sounds about right. The crit on the vortex buster was then literally just overkill.
Oh people are finally starting to notice mages are overpowered lol.. about time.
I bet they will balance it by great-bow-weakness of all robe users. So archers 1shot nukers, nukers 1shot archers and everyone oneshots healers.

I bet they will balance it by great-bow-weakness of all robe users. So archers 1shot nukers, nukers 1shot archers and everyone oneshots healers.



why do you always troll? archers do diddly squat for damage against any propperly buffed party. healers should always have bless shield, advanced block, greater shield, COP, cov. you will get crit for what like 1000 from a fully buffed archer?

freaking emo person. jesus.
I am not complainig about bow dmg, am I? And no, I dont have cov/cop, cuz i dont have those skills. But this is how ncosft do balance, archers>nukers in Il, so they incrased dmg of nukers. Now its vice versa so they will boost archers again etc.
they're gonna boost archers agian in the next patch huh?

that must be why SWS/BD get stackable dance on resist bow songs at lvl 70 in ct+.

good logic.
we will see, ... but dont take the discussion too seriously...nukers/archers > all...ncsoft failes at balancing L2, none of our posts will make any diff...but its fun to argue about stuff here
Waiting for a reply from Ellisandre.

He/she will show you shunners that mages ARE nerfed. They need to be put back to their pre nerf states where sleep is instant, dot does not break sleep, cancel removes all buffs and instant cast etc.
Mages are always going to complain until their class can kill all other classes effortlessly again, and as usual Nya is going to go on her typical emo rants to complain about something involving how propehts are nerfed, and how warcryers are beter, etc... Ahhh, The Forums.
I am wondering what makes my posts emo. I dont see that much of a diff from others posts. But yea, PPs are nerfed and WCs are overpowerd T.T :P
lol, because for as long as I have seen you post its ALWAYS about how prophets suck in one form or another >.<
that doesnt make my posts emo, that just means that PP sucks :P
I still see more sense in posting that PP/SE sucks, which is close to truth than all the "archers are nerfed, needz boostz" and "my nuckerz died, archor kiled me, nerf archorz, needz sleepz and cancel and mooore magic crits.
hahaha
Still waiting for a reply from Ellisandre.
get some resist buffs, ofc his doing that damage if they got no magic barrier and resists lol
Fers, do you know how ressist buffs work now? They are nerfed ALOT. On the other hand, elemental stones give huge dmg boost to nukers.
Yes i do have a nuker and i know how much they do, thats why for pvp u carry a pot againest everyone :P

and its a tad obvious they had no ressist buffs
ressist = 30points
elemnprot = 30points
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60 points
cap is what, 30 points?
and, 30points is what, 5% dmg, 7%dmg or something like that
do you really thing 7%dmg would make the 3k nocrit 1knocrit or 15k crit to 4knocrit?

ressists are close to useless if you havent figured it out yet
Get a PP and manadrain/magc backfire
PP doesnt have magical backfire....and you need several drains to disable 1 nuker...1 nuker can disable PP in what, 3 nukes? well maybe more if its weak nuker w/o stones, but anyway...
DONT LIKE GETTING ROCKED BY A SCOR PUT WATERSTONES ON YOUR ARMOR [censored]

Waiting for the ******s to come in here saying "mages got nerfed".



yeah those noble hero mages got it so hard. i agree with all the new nerfs for mages. roll a 1 on a D20 bad stuff happens, in this game all it means is you do 1 damage. big deal thats not a problem.

i still think sleep nerf sucks but thats about it :P

17k crit ouch.
sleep nerfed redefined the whole nuker leveling of multi mobs and multiple hp mobs, I mean you ould go to the cats and be a major help in groups by sleeping the stun mobs and the sleep mobs and nuking hard on the mob everyone's on and it also helped healers into good groups, now it's worthless and for those who leveled it just basically lost a ton of sp

DONT LIKE GETTING ROCKED BY A SCOR PUT WATERSTONES ON YOUR ARMOR [censored]



Yeah, and then run into a SpS..GG

Yes i do have a nuker and i know how much they do, thats why for pvp u carry a pot againest everyone :P

and its a tad obvious they had no ressist buffs



We had a PvP vs a SpS with resist aqua, element prot, and that dance (or was it song) that adds even more resist aqua.

I got 2 shotted. 4k each hit. Resists don't work.

He'd run in, kill one of us and then die.... rinse repeat...

DONT LIKE GETTING ROCKED BY A SCOR PUT WATERSTONES ON YOUR ARMOR [censored]


ressists are capped, what will stones on armor be for?


DONT LIKE GETTING ROCKED BY A SCOR PUT WATERSTONES ON YOUR ARMOR [censored]


ressists are capped, what will stones on armor be for?




do you even have a club what stone are used for
?


2 things


wepons increases the attrubte of the attack thingie

and water stones on s armor not sheilds give fire restances
And the maximized Attack Attribute will cancel the Resist from armor totally. You'll still end being hit for 1.5k if not more.

And the maximized Attack Attribute will cancel the Resist from armor totally. You'll still end being hit for 1.5k if not more.



then your a joke get a clan that has clan skills
Sorry, but not all classes have passive mdef boosters, Artie.



DONT LIKE GETTING ROCKED BY A SCOR PUT WATERSTONES ON YOUR ARMOR [censored]


ressists are capped, what will stones on armor be for?




do you even have a club what stone are used for
?
2 things
wepons increases the attrubte of the attack thingie

and water stones on s armor not sheilds give fire restances



elemental patk is capped at like 100 (not counting other things)
elemental ressist is capped at like 30 (not counting other things)
ill get hit for less dmg w/ Agr tallum robes than in arcana robes w/ stones which are pretty useless for healers/buffers
he said *clan* skills not class skills
getting in a lvl 9/10 clan is not a solution...

getting in a lvl 9/10 clan is not a solution...



It's as much of a solution as getting +14 Drac Focus or Valakas. Plenty of both on Teon btw ;)


DONT LIKE GETTING ROCKED BY A SCOR PUT WATERSTONES ON YOUR ARMOR [censored]


ressists are capped, what will stones on armor be for?



The effect is capped, but the resists over the cap are still used for calculations (i.e. to cancel out the attribute of the attacker).
Wish I hadn't quit my mage before CT1 now :p

Oh well
Your complaints are pretty futile. Were still a bit behind of the korean version, whos just going to send us updates, nothing new really. But to comment on the picture for starters.. two nukes for 4k, those arent on the necro, probally on the pet. Then on the necro (without transfer) he surrenders AND vortexes. Thats 2 reductions on fire resistance. That [censored] is going to hurt. All he lacked was BD dances(and mystic isnt anything insane), so thats fairly maxed damage minus a few possibilities like hero zerk for him, and theres other little things like clan emp, he probally has it. I doubt this guy is using much of any fire resistance, or pow/cov, or warding. Yes, mages with elemental additions to their weapons have become VERY powerful. This has to do mainly with the changes in elemental resistances. Many posters here have already indicated how naive they are to the new system, others have a clear idea of it. Stacking 4-5 resistances vs fire will reduce damage only a little bit, but it will greatly increase your chances of resisting things like Fire vortex, and surrender to fire, and prominence(the nuke will fail more often). Frankly, i dont like the elemental changes, it makes mages very strong, but its giving all these resistance buffs a smaller purpose in PvP. People arent going to rely on the nuke failing and doing half damage, or 1 damage.... until they keep getting battered by the same mages. You will change, because people have to adjust every chronicle to new changes. Or, perhaps youll /quit like the main poster hopefully has done, because youre playing the wrong game if you wanna [censored] and moan and get changes. The new stones have raised the bar for mages. That is, the new average damage will be raised over time. The mcrit is not related to your problem here btw. Whether he had stones on his weapon or not, you die to an mcrit there. The Mcrit possibilities for mages is more overpowered than these stones. However, those possibilities make up a very small amount of mages per server, whereas these elemental boosts will become full circle in time. So plxz cry it out, and evolve. Esp you jiggie, [censored] carebear.
<3 Steve!

<3 Steve!


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elemental patk is capped at like 100 (not counting other things)
elemental ressist is capped at like 30 (not counting other things)
ill get hit for less dmg w/ Agr tallum robes than in arcana robes w/ stones which are pretty useless for healers/buffers



resists are caped at some 30 points MORE then attribute. ie, nuker have 100 attribute, you can buff 130 or so resist and have use of it all! he wont hit you harder then if you had 30 resist and he had 0 attribute.


ok, i did some tests with a dark crystal from pagans.
it gave me 30 dark attribute on my necro.
with 0 attribute i did
848 against 0 resist
786 against 30 resist
786 against 60 resist

with 30 dark attribute i did:
958 against 0 resist
865 against 30 resist
786 against 60 resist
786 against 90 resist


this is from a post i did elsewhere. test was done against a player.
the shown cap is 40.

so lvl 2 buff + potion.

maxed resist is higher as others have posted.