At this moment Overlords Seal of Blockade is landing 100% on all, even on Lilith, Galaxia, all other raid bosses, except Anthras, Baium, Valakas, Frintezza. They just stand and don't attack at all.
When this will be fixed to some certain reasonable chance?
As one with Seal of Blockade i can assure you that it DOESN'T land 100%.
Seal of blockade, ofc, is a powerfull skill, but even on mobs or on players, with a top M.attack set up i have some resist.
It lands on boss. Nice. but 100% ? no. High land rate, true. And fast recast.
I don't see what is the problem about having a powerfull skill on a lvl 79 toon. It's a good reward when you reach such a lvl.
I guess everyone were screaming when propheties came out. same situation in my honest opinion.
Well. Maybe it's not 100%, but 99^%. You would be suprised how it lands everytime on RaidBosses. How you can kill Lilith in 1 party. Kill Golkonda/galaxia in 1 party. Bosses just stand and do nothing. I'm sure this was not intended by NCSoft.
Well. As far as I've heard it's already fixed on korean servers.
it should be like all OL skills. 60% land chance. for 30 seconds.
I know how it lands. I use it everydays. On xp/raid.
Believe me, sometime i die because it doesn't wanna land !
We killed lilith and Galaxia before CT1 with 1 group already. Destros. Not a big change now. Blockade helps after the frenzy nerf. That's all =)
I heard that about the korean too. But nothing really trustable so far. so... i pray Pa'agrio to let my lovely seal like that ;)
Well. Maybe it's not 100%, but 99^%. You would be suprised how it lands everytime on RaidBosses. How you can kill Lilith in 1 party. Kill Golkonda/galaxia in 1 party. Bosses just stand and do nothing. I'm sure this was not intended by NCSoft.
Well. As far as I've heard it's already fixed on korean servers.
it should be like all OL skills. 60% land chance. for 30 seconds.
Humm, I would love to see a 60% land rate on the debuffs. I thought it was 30% or so it seemed after looking at the numbers to upgrade your skill levels.
Hell, 60% I would be a god among the lowly races...
sorry, just had to throw that in, now back to the thread. I really makes me want to hit those high 70's badly!!!!
Well. Maybe it's not 100%, but 99^%. You would be suprised how it lands everytime on RaidBosses. How you can kill Lilith in 1 party. Kill Golkonda/galaxia in 1 party. Bosses just stand and do nothing. I'm sure this was not intended by NCSoft.
Well. As far as I've heard it's already fixed on korean servers.
it should be like all OL skills. 60% land chance. for 30 seconds.
Well, even blockade wouldnt stop 1 party RB killing. Most Raid bosses can be taken down with 1 fully buffed and jeweled archer party anyway.
At this moment Overlords Seal of Blockade is landing 100% on all, even on Lilith, Galaxia, all other raid bosses, except Anthras, Baium, Valakas, Frintezza. They just stand and don't attack at all.
When this will be fixed to some certain reasonable chance?
Regards,
Oleg.
Oleg,
Blockade is NOT a 100% land rate on bosses. Depending on your MAtk it can take up to multiple tries before it lands. I have had it where soemtimes it takes a full dance cycle for it to land. So there is a chance of it not landing...of course if ur doing light Blue bosses the land rate is pretty high
With Arcana Robes, Mystic Dance, Emp3, +2 Arcana Mace I have 2207 MAtk. I finally had enough SP for Arcane Power last night and it bumped my Matk to 2840. :)
I still say this is well deserved. NC has done nothing but nerf OL's, and those that get to 79 a decent skill. If they nerf the land rate, they should let Steal Essence Crit again.
Well, while land rate might not be 100, but I have witnessed myself a lilith fight where OL does one cast and lily and her crew stops hitting. Maybe 2 casts for 100% success.
But this can't be right. OL incapacitating a Raid Boss and keeping it incapacitated. Looks like a disbalance?
As I have said, if they nerf this, they should nerf alot of other things as well, Like archer damage, or survivability when fully buffed. While blockade is nice, it is far less common than stacked archer groups taking down bosses with 1 party imo.
Wontar - If you demand to nerf one of very few Seals that are somewhat reliable for us, I demand nerfing Major Heal (omg! It lands 100% of the time! And HEALS!!!! HAXXX!). I demand to nerf CoV/PoW1/PoW2/PoF (omg! it bumps up stats like hell! nerf it!). ****, let's nerf rez skills! We kill them and they are, like, up with 100% possibility! No fair! How do you like that, as Eva's saint?
Sorry, that just plain sucks.
I am now raiding w/ my alliance once a week and the first two bosses are quite nicely white to me. Get winter or suspend to land, not yet (over 100 trys though). Get flame or posion to land, naw baby naw...
Go into one with minions where you would think my root would land. Not a chance. But get a lower level magic caster in there, or even a hex from our tank, boom lands over 50% of the time.
OM Goodness, I get to smackie smackit w/ the makeup DD team though... LOL
do any of the ppl who dont play ol's have any idea how hard it is to get to 79 on such a heavily nerfed and incapacitated character?
it takes a hell of a long time to get any character to 79, although the lolverlord takes even longer...
how about the 58 kamael that consistently (no wait...100% of the time) para'ed death lord ipos in my raid group? all we had to do was **** at him and he hardly fought back. They are practically given the same (albeit 1v1) debuff as ol. what they get during b grade, ol's have to work 79 lvls for. they already have to wade through 1-78 levels of mediocre skills to see anything worthwhile.
while neither skill should work for farming raid bosses, i hope that their pvp aspect will remain unaltered.
I don't mind Blockade in PvP that much, except its Reuse and Land Rate LOL... No one character should be able to fully incapacitate almost a whole siege force. Debuffing them is one thing, but rendering several classes virtually useless is dumb.
As for Raid Bosses, I think its stupid.... Has anyone tried it yet on Epic Bosses? Does it Land?
Doesn't land on Baium according to what others OLs told me.
I guess not on Antharas and Valakas too.
What about Seal of Silence? Oed it's kinda annoying. Nukers T_T. Hit with your weapon like a melee !
What about suspension ? This is evil. +1 in power make it +200% reuse delay (if my infos are corrects)
Blockade, like the others seals doesn't incapacitate ennemies. They can still do skills ;)
btw, noone scream about song of silence ?
Same kind of stuff ^^
I don't mind Blockade in PvP that much, except its Reuse and Land Rate LOL... No one character should be able to fully incapacitate almost a whole siege force. Debuffing them is one thing, but rendering several classes virtually useless is dumb.
As for Raid Bosses, I think its stupid.... Has anyone tried it yet on Epic Bosses? Does it Land?
It doesnt make any class useless, it just stops normal attacks. Thats what skills are for. If someone is relying alot on autoattack to pvp they are doing something wrong...unless they are an archer I guess, which if the OL got in range then you are doing something seriously wrong...
(only exception I could think of is if you are trying to squeeze through gates etc.)
It should land quite often, but maybe not be a "win" button...
I mean, completley disable a raid boss defeats the purpose.
Reduce land rate maybe, but not too much, a land rate (on RB at least) of 1/3 or 1/4 would be good. I can only imagine how difficult it is to level an OL to that lvl but still it seems at least a bit overpowered.
Also the skill of kamael is ridiculous, it will most likely nerfed to hell, if not then somebod needs to get a clue.
I don't see what is the problem about having a powerfull skill on a lvl 79 toon.
In that case you are indeed an idiot.
This particular seal is in the top 3 worst additions to L2.
And yes, my clan does have a 79+ Dominator and at times it does greatly benefit us. Id prefer the skill had never been added though. It needs some serious nerfing because it's pretty ******ed.
[quoteunless they are an archer I guess, which if the OL got in range then you are doing something seriously wrong...
Flames of Invincibility, Celestial Shield, Heroic Miracle.
Sometimes there isn't a great deal you can do to avoid blockade. Enemy Dominators can and will get in amongst you and debuff you at some point in a fight.
I dont see what's the complaint about OL having an "i win" skill. How many other classes already have those? Like Necro? Even archer's regular attack was overpowered when fully buffed/equipped. OL's skill is designed chiefly to provide a countermeasure to that. We still lack effective tools for dealing with mages (suspension and silence are very difficult to land on mages).
Oh, and blockade has a very low land rate against the high end bosses (like Ember) and doesnt land at all on epic bosses. Worst you can say is that in many cases, blockade allows 1 group to do raids by itself -- but fully stacked archer group could already do that, so what's the big deal?
sheesh we get a good thing and someones gotta say it needs to be nerfed umm that doesn't make any sense at all . and i know by asking on forums if seal of blockade lets you solo a raid boss it gets the attention of ncsoft so they make sure to nerf it but glad to see i'm not the guy that ruined the good thing .
and for info i'm a 52 Overlord soloing if no clannies or friends are on and i don't use OOP buff pets and refuse to go buy another acct just so i can lvl my main when i play a mmorpg where partys should be easy to get regardless of the class you play.
so do what lifesong suggests if ya have no idea about playing an OL solo self buffed make 1 and try it you might get a new perspective on the class and stop seeing it as needed to be nerfed if you have friends that are 1.
cuz without your clan or any non clan friends OL is a lonely solo road to the top i imagine since i can't even get partys when i say i'll buff myself when the clan's not online and my friends too high to party thanks to that unneeded lvl gap penalty.
Yep so those of us that are 40 and up (mines 52) will get that skill so nerfed now that these players are complaining about that it won't even be worth using if we manage to get that high and don't quit.
but if we quit playing OL they'll get to go back to being ally buffers again cuz only the high lvls in game will be only ones period .
OLs starting in CT1 have missed the boat. Reroll an Archer or a nuker and quit whining. Soloing as an OL is awful, with t e buff pet it's not much better. C2 & C3 OLs were badass, Blockade is just making up to the OLs who stuck it out for 79 levels with the number of nerfs we endured.
Why is it hard to lvl a OL? Dont you have any warlord or dorfs aoeing in clan? There is ur natural place to xp. AoE grps that are for Pagan, FoG at higher lvl requires for mass silence and so on.
Secondly if u do not get those grps u can make an extrem melee setup with +4 dex and +4 str with light or heavy set with a dagger and do fairly well duos or trios even without bd. Which is the option I have done. And if ppl dont party u in clan then ur clan really sucks...
why is everything based on wheres your clan at when talking about OL ? Thought in a mmorpg it was community based where you could party with anyone regardless,hmm that is the joke for this game with OL i guesse. and you can solo an OL (meaning just that solo no 2nd acct cuz i wanna play by myself bs ) decent at frozen labyrnth with a ds/focus+3 2 d jewls 3 c jewls full avadon robes with shield at lvl 52 and css or no css and hp pots .
so that point was i do it and it's boring as hell that's why i haven't got my 53 back yet (lost 53 trying to solo EV with all the aggro and not watching my health or buffs)
Sounds more and more like i should go back to my AW with each nerf bringing more nerfs to OL. Is there even a point in playing a clan buffer with the amount of WC in game there should be enough for every clan.
So any OL not b grade stop and reroll a WC you'll have more fun since you can lvl your wolf for next nerf so you can ride him.
Uhm the function of the Overlord is no to buff the clan. Forget that idea. You only buff the clan in emergencies or if u are lowbie overlord who cant land seals or cp heal yet. ^^ Buffing done best by the single or party buffers. The Overlords function is primarly mass pvp like sieges doing debuffs or cp heal. Those debuffs are then of course usefull in aoe grps for xp. The buffs are only really appropiate if doing nuker party when u got empower.
But to get back on topic. I wouldnt mind a lower land rate of blockade on raidbosses, but otherwise what I seen is pretty ok. Actually would be more cool if the raised the other stupid seals land rate like silence which I only land on archers or necros summons atm...
- Not allowed to party out of clan (few people take ol only for seals. even if you don't think so Rahvlok, we are considered as buffers).
- and the pole party vr nerf.
I did aoe in high lvl places like fog or Darkness room, and it really was something else than what we can do now, even with blockade.
Darkness i don't go anymore, because i'm not sure we will manage to stay alive, even with silence+ blockade.
And... blockade is lvl 79 skills... before that high, how you gonna support your aoe pole group ? Believe me, winter will not make the difference for your dieing group ^^"
OLs now are pure nukers supports imo when they play with a mage set.
Or a good melee with the set up you proposed.
To come back on topic too :)
+1 Rahvlok about the raising of others seals' landrate !
lol I only get complaints about the buffs from someone. Frankly a dominator should be clan leader and plainly leech and be free to pm and such in a party untill 77 where he can actually be a mage party buffer. ^^
with such words, no wonder why people think we are a lazy class of leechers just as good as a walking cp pot at siege and unfairly overpowered with blockade... >.>
hmm an OL getting invited to a non clan aoe party that's a 1st what server you playing on . each time i've gone to rift on my OL it's same story go party your clan , so in this day and age of buff pets why play OL in the 1st place since a clan full of wc's don't need us OL's and i bet you need to be a grade with a mage setup to really land seals so that's why i consider mine just a self buffed DD and i don't even bother looking for non existant raid,rift,non clan partys anymore cuz it's a waste of time when on my OL so i've gone back to my AW as a main again and have a EO that uses light and fists for another alt.
well all the ppl [censored] will b happy blockade is getting nerfed next chron to a skill that does dmg and has now a 3 min reuse time so much for the reward of bustin our [censored] for 6+ chrons ><
sux they re "fixing" this it added some nice touch of challenge to pvp, new skill looks like okay though ~~ blocks all heals/regen~~ anyway, time to oe seal of silence i guess.
hmm time to stop playing a class they can't figure out how to stop screwing with and just play my AW for awhile till they decide on what direction they are going with OL since it seems they can't make up thier minds .
Alliance and clan buffer to start most of the chronicles now it's clan only ? make blockade sound awesome then water it down sheesh when will the lets water down every skill OL has addiction they have stop ?
AFTER READING ABOUT ALL THE NERFING THEY DO IN THIS GAME WHAT IF ANYTHING DID THEY GET RIGHT AT THE VERY BEGINNING TO WHERE THEY ACTUALLY MAKE SOMETHING BETTER EACH UPDATE INSTEAD OF WATERING IT DOWN AND MAKING IT WORTHLESS?
Was in caps so that question get's noticed cuz it's gotten aggravating to see them keep ruining a good thing each update.
Yep i allready saw reason's to quit so letting my acct run out.
The every nerf instead of updateing is one reason, The game only bringing high lvl content but doing nothing it seems for players under 70+ and then now they nerfing that high end content so what was point of making it in 1st place?
Game used to be fun even when the majority of game play has been solo but now i'm bored with it and don't feel like getting watered down s grade skills that are useless , think it's time to find a game where the makers know how to update instead of nerf.
think it's time to find a game where the makers know how to update instead of nerf.
+1. Not that I'm thinking about quitting myself right now. But I do agree, the L2 devs seem to have a rather negative collective mindset when it comes to class-balancing issues. Their one and only response to an issue, percieved or real, is to nerf. And often to nerf much harder than what's needed.
Well this update finally gave us ability to buff pets like we shoulda had along time ago seeing as how in real life your pet is part of family so it's about time it was fixed now sell time cards again so i can have a Dominator and now that we can buff pets no Domintor should think of subbing Doomcryer .
I hope, that in next CT, Dominators will not disappear as a class. A half of Debuffs not used at all. How many OLs use "Seal of Chaos", "Seal of Slow" or "Seal of Gloom" it must be increased or deleted. Maybe it is working but not need when you have "Seal of Winter", "Seal of Silence", "Seal of Suspension" and "Seal of Blockade".
P.S."Seal of Scourge", "Seal of Disease" and "Seal of Limit" have practically same effect,
but first skill is decrease naturally regeneration of health, second, from other healers, third, the same plus MP and CP regens.
"Seal of Scourge" learn up to 14 lvl, it's about 3 351 000 SP.
P.P.S. And remember: "DOMINATORS MUST LIVE!!!" & BLOCKADE must be a dominating skill.