EULA griefing

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The situation on Lionna is getting out of hand. People are starting to use the EULA as a means of griefing by forcing name changes. It started with Analhanna, a character who has existed for several years with that name, is a person that primarily speaks french, and is not meant to be offensive. Somehow this gave Artbuntrector, a friend of analhanna the idea of using the same tactic. He asked in Hero shout for people to /petition NastyBastard and get his name changed. Well, lo and behold. That happened. NastyBastard has been around for years using that name. I still cannot see how it can be offensive. In response, NastyBastard asked his alliance to petition Artbuntrector. And, of course, NCSoft obliged and has changed Artbunt's name to NameChange#### as well. Nasty must have been pretty creative to figure out how Artbuntrector was offensive.

NCSoft is facilitating the harrasment of other players by allowing absolutely any excuse for a forced name change to be acceptable. All three of these people should be given their names back. Otherwise, Alyra, I request that you alter the EULA and state that harrasment is permissible. Because that's what NCSoft is sanctioning with these baseless name changes.
There's a reason people make fun of Lionna.

You're expecting good judgment from the GMs?
go cry more lolionna
Lionna is spawning lawyer mobs now in preperation for the upcomming legal battles over what names are actually offensive.
Those name should have been changed in the first place. The GM team just doesn't pay attention unless you mass petition.
I personally don't see how you can find the name 'Artbuntrector' offensive, I sometimes find the person Artbuntrector offensive but not the name. ;)

I personally don't see how you can find the name 'Artbuntrector' offensive, I sometimes find the person Artbuntrector offensive but not the name. ;)


It's not but it is also monumentally stupid to use hero chat to ask the server to mass petition someone you don't like. He should've expected exactly what happened.

It's not but it is also monumentally stupid to use hero chat to ask the server to mass petition someone you don't like. He should've expected exactly what happened.


I agree, but the GM's should show some common sense and not let this get out of control. They shouldn't change a name just because a bunch of people asked for it.
I used to wonder how Analhanna was allowd to keep that name. never really bothered me, just found it as odd (yes I know it is AnaLhana or something, but the names allow you to usecaps and the Eula is enforced using english, hence the greek cussing in hero chat goes unchecked.

nasty and art being forced to change is just kind of lolemolionna. Kind of pathetically sad in a way.
Ehm... nastyBastard got changed? hhahaha, seriously Alyra, do something, that is ridiclious.
Analhanna, sure, should be changed, but nastybastard.. hah.
Looks like a free name change if you can get enough people to petition you.
WTB name: "Namechange1337"


It's not but it is also monumentally stupid to use hero chat to ask the server to mass petition someone you don't like. He should've expected exactly what happened.


I agree, but the GM's should show some common sense and not let this get out of control. They shouldn't change a name just because a bunch of people asked for it.


"Common sense" and "Good judgment" should never be used in the same sentence with "GM". It just ain't happening. This should really surprise no one. I'll bet they'd namechange "aaaaaaaaaaa" if enough people petitioned.
I think some people are just trying to get a free name change! :p

Ok, kidding.

I'll check with the GMs to see how the policy stands right now (ie. how they make a decision, what basis they go off of, etc.) With the character name change service in effect now, we may need to make some adjustments.
Isn't there a Bastard Sword in game? Sounds like it needs a name change as well.

Bastard Sword
http://www.lineage2.com/images/item_screens/69.jpg
Grade - D
One-Handed
P. Atk. 51
M. Atk. 32
(PS- the jpg number for the Bastard Sword is what we call humorous...)

Edit: replaced irony with humorous, it just seems to fit better.

Isn't there a Bastard sword in game? Sounds like it needs a name change as well.


'bastard' was a censored word for a long time (it isn't anymore afaik) ....

i loved those shout in dion; '!WTS -_- Sword' .... *few seconds later .... '!WTS B.astard Sword' :D


Isn't there a Bastard sword in game? Sounds like it needs a name change as well.


'bastard' was a censored word for a long time (it isn't anymore afaik) ....

i loved those shout in dion; '!WTS -_- Sword' .... *few seconds later .... '!WTS B.astard Sword' :D



Trying to avoid the language filter was also bannable back then wasnt it? Doubt anyone reported for WTS B.astard sword tho lol.
3 or 4 years with a name, and now, some stupid ppl do petition to change a name which never bored someone...

LOL GF GM, we ALL are asking for bots mass ban, and the only thing you can do is what? asking to someone to change his name? are you professionals, or only some students doing a job for few dollars?
if anyone got banned for that, they'd be 923ing mad :p

WTB name: "Namechange1337"



Better yet -

WTB "NameChange923"
believe it or not i've had someone try and petition my name before
so **** is offensive to u but bastard is quite alright.

i dont care but thats stupid.
Lionna delivers! So, can the GM team precent us with a list of words/acronyms that are deemed unappropriate to be included in names so that we can from now on avoid such names and make sure that any person with such a name still has a nice Namechangexxxx, free of charge ^^
The could give us a list, but then they would have to ban themselves. :D
Yep, the list would look like this:
-_-
-_-
-_-
-_-
-_-
I find Charmille an extremely offensive name
Name or person?
both
i got a namechange back in c4 after playing 1 year and a haft with the name [censored]

the name [censored]

lol ok i guess my old name is still censored
hahahaha
i had like a lvl 20 something dark elf mystic named CustomerSupport and they changed it.
People obiously have a good point here; why is "NastyBastard" offensive and "Bastard Sword" not?

Why don't you introduce a system when someone tries to make a name with offensive words in it, just give them a message, "Sorry, this name includes one or more bannable words, please pick a new name".

People obiously have a good point here; why is "NastyBastard" offensive and "Bastard Sword" not?

Why don't you introduce a system when someone tries to make a name with offensive words in it, just give them a message, "Sorry, this name includes one or more bannable words, please pick a new name".



cuz that would make sence - hence not in the business rules of NCNA.....
I wonder. What about names that are offensive in their native language? Or hero chat that is full of abusive language (mostly in Greek)? What is the rule in these cases? Don't tell me that only English are aloud becouse I will rofl.
I have petitioned obscenities in non-english and the reply I got was that more or less NC does not care.

So, have fun.
Myeah, we definetley need a clear stand on this issue.
I wanted to name a char Corrector for eexample (was taken), but it could be considered offensive since it contains.. rect?
Come on, I'm looking forward to a clear stand on this issue as it's rather stupid and weird words appear in many many names while beeing almost invisible. For example Dessex? Just because it containts sex? (why sex would be considered offensive or inappropriate i won't argue, people are too prude).
And the list could go on like.. forever!
:mad:
I find very very few names offensive, haven't seen more than 1 or 2.

Disgusting != Offensive
IMHO
****You would be an offensive name in my mind, AnalLeakage wouldn't, disgusting maybe, but not offensive. Never seen either of those names I just made them up as examples :p
And a name like DanaLina or something which contains **** wouldn't bother me at all.
See... there is a reason I see people running around with names like "asd123" "kjghji" and "iwf82". Heh and I thought they were automated players... tuns out they're just afraid of the EULA!
BusinessAnalyst.

Isn't there a Bastard Sword in game? Sounds like it needs a name change as well.

Bastard Sword
http://www.lineage2.com/images/item_screens/69.jpg
Grade - D
One-Handed
P. Atk. 51
M. Atk. 32
(PS- the jpg number for the Bastard Sword is what we call irony...)



Illegitimate Child Sword
Just like Assassin, thats double censored!

Just like Assassin, thats double censored!


oooh... you are a potty mouth!
i'm a friend of analhanna, and had him in my friendlist, but now nomore analhanna neither changenamexxxx... may i do a ticket for it, coz GMs had done something wrong?

Q. :
Dear GM,
you changed a friend's name, and now he doesn't appear in my friendlist anymore and i can't pm him (coz i don't know his new name), do u think u can do something for me?

A. :
Dear Aghen,
we apologize for this, and we'll do something Soon (tm).

GF !!
NCSoft team 1 - 0 Customers
Shouldnt it be:

A.: Please provide more information.

Until u run out of petitions...

Shouldnt it be:

A.: Please provide more information.

Until u run out of petitions...


They don't count a petition when they answer that. You'll run out of patience.

Don't forget all to petition all those perverts selling A-SS! (without the '-')


Shouldnt it be:

A.: Please provide more information.

Until u run out of petitions...


They don't count a petition when they answer that. You'll run out of patience.

Don't forget all to petition all those perverts selling A-SS! (without the '-')



Sometimes they do count the petitions even when they ask you for more information.