Sad news for Bartz

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You kidding me? THat's sad news? How about Franz, we got a kamael hero already :S
Well, I suppose when you can dedicate all 24 hours a day to grinding, surprising things are possible...
I've got one word for you: Disgusting.
Totally disgusting.
I don't know the player and I don't care to know him/her.
And about Kamael hero on Franz, wow, had no idea that happened already, that must have been some heavy duty... "leveling" :).

:eek:

P.S. Try to proove me otherwise, I dare you :p.
Sad news? 99% of all the heros on Franz history has been made that way.
What more could you expect from a server that has a large population of those who just failed on their other servers. I feel bad for those Euros who went to Franz to be on their timezone, they got stuck with all of L2 NA's Rejects.
I don't regret going to Franz, not one moment :(.
Among all the debris there are some nice, outstanding, fun and grownup players.(and by grownup I mean with a good sense of what "polite" means, and know where the fun stops and mockery starts..)
That is awesome, Gabriel.

I know I found a good group like that on Lionna, and I've never regretted leaving Bartz back in C1.
Hated (on Franz) did it legit, stop freaking crying about him.

No one (and I mean no one) has one single screenshot of him ever being in a bot train or anything else.

Having a +7 S grade weapon, 78+ buffer, and his wife playing his character when hes not there to play it means fast leveling.

Dont hate or be jealous, jesus.
Can you really blame anyone for considering the most likely path? In view of the general trand of "speed leveling".
I won't accuse, but I can assume the worst.

If it's all clean, well, what can I say, congrats for ferocious playing :eek:.


Cheers.
Since you replied on my name.. Im guessing it was aimed at me :)

Mind you, I havent stated anywhere that "Hated is unlegit. For all I know, my belief is that he actually is one of the 1%.

Since you replied on my name.. Im guessing it was aimed at me :)

Mind you, I havent stated anywhere that "Hated is unlegit. For all I know, my belief is that he actually is one of the 1%.



Unfortunately it's only natural to think so :( :( *sigh* And note that I'm not taling about *doable* factor, as I won't deny it is doable, and there's no envy involved.

LOL QQMore is in that shot too.



and IronDeath as well :(
my sws hero!!

Since you replied on my name.. Im guessing it was aimed at me :)

Mind you, I havent stated anywhere that "Hated is unlegit. For all I know, my belief is that he actually is one of the 1%.



You'd be amazed how much crap he gets. I think I've known him probably longer then most people (since he started playing) and hes never used a bot... he just has more free time then is right. (Thats another matter, and alot make fun of him for that too, then bot in the same breath.. if you have free time, you woudnt bot, if you dont, you would)

Just annoying how hypocritical people can be. Hell, even while he was doing Oly it was "Nice feeding!111" when he beat a Prophet in diff clan (Hi, he stole PoF, durrr...) and "Feed your clan mates more!!11" when he lost to a dagger (duh). Stupid crap.
It's funny how everyone jumps the gun and goes "BOT BOT BOT" as soon as they see something they cant do themselves.

If Bat did it legitly, gratz to him. If not, who the [censored] cares? Half the heroes come from a bottrain these days anyway. Same for many of the noblesses fighting in the Oly. Yet more have used enough money to buy a car or two IRL on their toons equipment.

That is L2 of today. That is what NCSoft has let it become. And they dont seem to care, so why the [censored] all the crying?
We need to get post counter +1 imo :>. Thats why !

We need to get post counter +1 imo :>. Thats why !



I beg to disagree. +1 :)
But seriously as it was said, let's try NOT to throw any accusations... we all know it's against the rules, yet most voice it in an ostentative manner, just expressing disagreement with a more diplomat expression can help, you don't have to voice a word in order to make it crystal clear :p.
I am clearly joking. I am sooo tired about all those bot threads , since NC doesn't do anything it seems we only talk about it to get +2 on post counter!! Yay
People made friends with farmers, what's the problem here? XD

People made friends with farmers, what's the problem here? XD



I always wondered if that was against the EULA. (That is, sitting in a farmer group)

I mean, you know they are using a 3rd party program, and you are benefiting.. but your not doing it yourself.

(LOL @ Devil)

People made friends with farmers, what's the problem here? XD



Ok, this is one approach, indifference :p. It's cool, I guess.. (I'm ignoring the "sarcasm" in the "xD" :p.)

It's not at all impossible, I don't know how "they" work.
gratz to the sws!

And for those QQing too about this, just thank NCsoft for delaying server transfers for years.
Yea seriously.


People made friends with farmers, what's the problem here? XD



I always wondered if that was against the EULA. (That is, sitting in a farmer group)

I mean, you know they are using a 3rd party program, and you are benefiting.. but your not doing it yourself.



I think Spam addressed this once but I don't remember the exact answer. I think it was along the lines of "you're taking your chances if the entire party gets banned."

Personally, I think you have a better chance of winning the lottery given the underzealousness of bot banning these days. Just don't cuss, though...
I think people have a misconception about botting. It doesn't make you lvl faster. In fact, it makes you level alot slower. The reason bots seem to lvl so fast is because they are on 24/7. What they do in 24 hrs could be done in 7-8 hrs (or less).

I think people have a misconception about botting. It doesn't make you lvl faster. In fact, it makes you level alot slower. The reason bots seem to lvl so fast is because they are on 24/7. What they do in 24 hrs could be done in 7-8 hrs (or less).



Depends.

There are bots to make adena, then there are "leveling" bots. And no, those dont level slower.

They spam SS just like a regular person, some take two 8 rooms in Cat's or use poles (via "hunting" sub routine) etc.

Leveling bots sole purpose is to make cash obviously. They hunt green, light blue mobs, dont spam SS, and do everything they can to SAVE cash at the expensive of leveling.


I think people have a misconception about botting. It doesn't make you lvl faster. In fact, it makes you level alot slower. The reason bots seem to lvl so fast is because they are on 24/7. What they do in 24 hrs could be done in 7-8 hrs (or less).



Depends.

There are bots to make adena, then there are "leveling" bots. And no, those dont level slower.

They spam SS just like a regular person, some take two 8 rooms in Cat's or use poles (via "hunting" sub routine) etc.




Catas are pretty horrible for leveling unless for duo. Go back of DVC, top of ToI, or bottom of FoG to find the real pro bots.

Speaking of which go to Dino-island or Chromatic highlands too. Setups there are pretty impressive.


Catas are pretty horrible for leveling unless for duo. Go back of DVC, top of ToI, or bottom of FoG to find the real pro bots.

Speaking of which go to Dino-island or Chromatic highlands too. Setups there are pretty impressive.



Pole groups are the "real pro" bots TBH :P

Usually those are non farmers, just for leveling purposes and the exp is amazing.

Although frankly ToI exp sucks donkey compared to DVC.
Gratz on Hero.

and yes, AOE xp is still the fastest, and prolly the easiest XP in the game.

if you have free time, you woudnt bot



Uhm, yeah you would. There's players that do that too.


if you have free time, you woudnt bot



Uhm, yeah you would. There's players that do that too.



The stupid ones.

The smart ones just take a break from L2 for a month, come back and are 76.

Rhapsodia is now a hero :(

screenshots (http://l2guru.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2481332&postcount=176)



I am still amazed how bad NCSoft NA is to detect and ban bots. I mean if this toon was botted from lvl 1 to noble and still be online without being flagged as a bot by the server then maybe you should change the EULA and remove the part about the use of 3rd party programs....this is ridiculous

I have been petitioning a bot on Lionna everyday since I spoted him almost 1.5 years ago and he is now botting up his 3rd sub to 76...


Rhapsodia is now a hero :(

screenshots (http://l2guru.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2481332&postcount=176)



People on nostromo.

Whats the problem here?




LOL not even with nostromo you can control 9 chars to attack, move, assist, sit at the same time because you have to select the individual window to give commands to the char...not even with 9 computers you can do this.


LOL not even with nostromo you can control 9 chars to attack, move, assist, sit at the same time because you have to select the individual window to give commands to the char...not even with 9 computers you can do this.



How do you know this :D

Hated (on Franz) did it legit, stop freaking crying about him. and his wife playing his character when hes not there to play it means fast leveling.



That right there makes Hated a nonlegitamate character and is against the EULA.



Rhapsodia is now a hero :(

screenshots (http://l2guru.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2481332&postcount=176)



People on nostromo.

Whats the problem here?




LOL not even with nostromo you can control 9 chars to attack, move, assist, sit at the same time because you have to select the individual window to give commands to the char...not even with 9 computers you can do this.



With the exception of sitting when required to, you can do everything else with nostromos.
like wasting cp pots while u never get hit!


Hated (on Franz) did it legit, stop freaking crying about him. and his wife playing his character when hes not there to play it means fast leveling.



That right there makes Hated a nonlegitamate character and is against the EULA.



Er wrong.

Account sharing between immediate family is legal.

GMSpam said so himself.

Owned much? :)
actually from what i remember anyone can log your account just, if you get scammed, ncsoft ganna laugh at you


I have been petitioning a bot on Lionna everyday since I spoted him almost 1.5 years ago and he is now botting up his 3rd sub to 76...


lol.
The party in that screen is so botted, granted 1 or 2 of them might be on Nostromo.
Three cheers for Ashane. smart man. <3

Account sharing between immediate family is legal.

GMSpam said so himself.



In that case I have just adopted all the farmers.



Hated (on Franz) did it legit, stop freaking crying about him. and his wife playing his character when hes not there to play it means fast leveling.



That right there makes Hated a nonlegitamate character and is against the EULA.



Er wrong.

Account sharing between immediate family is legal.

GMSpam said so himself.

Owned much? :)



It's also worded pretty much like that in the EULA, nothing wrong with it at all.
Ash.. please go bot more and defend you botting/adena transfer friends.
Ashane seems to be the botter unions spokesperson
You guys sound like a bunch of butthurt little girls.

Seriously....cry more.