Hi i have kamael on lvl 44, and i was in pvp. I do not know exactly, but i think, that fear or slow is mental attack or no? That i tryed courage. There is written GREATLY INCREASES RESISTANCE TO MENTAL ATTACK. But everytime i get fear or slow. it do not increase GRATLY. Can anyone advice me with this, anyone, who have more experiences with berseker than me.
what is gratly(not really)?, that mean that it do not work? it do not increase any M def. now i tryed it, but it didn´t increase any M. def. How it exactly work?
As I can immagine it works like gladiators/destroyers lionheart. So, first and second level nowhere near "greatly", but increases that resistance to mental attacks A BIT. The third level, however, increases truly greatly.
Actually I don't know if there is three levels of "courage", too lazy to check it atm, but if there is, then I bet it works like that.
P.S.: Don't count so much on skill descriptions in the future :P
Kamael got wasted in the oly thought, they got killed by everyone, everyone was smiling everytime they faced a kamael in oly, well mostly everyone. some got unlucky.
on PTS everyone has the same limits so how it's not a good thing base class on?
PTS is not all that different from life
No one has unseal armor so everyone is screwed there. and as far as weapons every has no sa and anything from +3 to +16 so in many ways it's no diffrent from the the different ranges from live.
In fact the ground is more even on PTS. everyone got a min 7 bill a lvl 82 player and lvl 82 crafter they could make. No SA on weapons and no Unseal Armor. :p
The only 2 classes that are really Screwed are BD and Glads
Well it reflects what a more balance Fight with a Zerker is. and do you really think it's going be that Different on live when everyone has the same access to what you have on live with all the cheats in place on live.
Even I cheated in a way.
Everytime some High lvl Quit and Gave me they gear that right away jump me 2 a better lvl of my game.
Then Server transfers came and guess who clean up from the people leaving my Server?
Not to Mention all the Gear me and My Cousin got Training Bots before C5 (ahhhh the good old days)
Well it reflects what a more balance Fight with a Zerker is. and do you really think it's going be that Different on live when everyone has the same access to what you have on live with all the cheats in place on live.
Even I cheated in a way.
Everytime some High lvl Quit and Gave me they gear that right away jump me 2 a better lvl of my game.
Then Server transfers came and guess who clean up from the people leaving my Server?
Not to Mention all the Gear me and My Cousin got Training Bots before C5 (ahhhh the good old days)
;) :D
I miss those days ...
Also even on live kamael are fairly easy to kill even if your a much lower level than them, unless your a healer or buffer(non orc) lol. Everyone with stun(tanks at the highest) will be able to toy around with kamael. On PTS it actually took longer to kill a kamael than on live.
From my experience so far with Zerker, you can put up a good fight, even vs. grades above you. SwordSheild is perfect for melee, even if you get stunned, you still got over 2000 pdef. And run speed isnt needed much, since your not trying to get away,and if they try, you just shoulder Charge them, and if they lands, true zerker and attack. Then when the stun wears off, go for disarm (which lands well, only time it failed in pvp was 1 time vs someone 2 grades above me, tho in the same fight, it landed the second time.) The reflect skills toggle is also nice, let them rip themselfs a new one with there melee skills. Tho that didnt work alot for me.
And vs. mages: ShoulderCharge,ViolentTemper,And unload melee skills. Crushing Pain has the same power lvl as Crush Of Doom, Contagion has the same power lvl also, with bleed effect. I would hate to fight a zerker on my nuker. Only chance is to take him out before he got to me.....
But i do agree, a toon like DA would be harder: They can stun even when disarmed, they have pet, they have high Con.
From my experience so far with Zerker, you can put up a good fight, even vs. grades above you. SwordSheild is perfect for melee, even if you get stunned, you still got over 2000 pdef. And run speed isnt needed much, since your not trying to get away,and if they try, you just shoulder Charge them, and if they lands, true zerker and attack. Then when the stun wears off, go for disarm (which lands well, only time it failed in pvp was 1 time vs someone 2 grades above me, tho in the same fight, it landed the second time.) The reflect skills toggle is also nice, let them rip themselfs a new one with there melee skills. Tho that didnt work alot for me.
And vs. mages: ShoulderCharge,ViolentTemper,And unload melee skills. Crushing Pain has the same power lvl as Crush Of Doom, Contagion has the same power lvl also, with bleed effect. I would hate to fight a zerker on my nuker. Only chance is to take him out before he got to me.....
But i do agree, a toon like DA would be harder: They can stun even when disarmed, they have pet, they have high Con.
Zerkers, real talk, are mage killers, plain and simple. but they're no match for tanks and true melee DD's
The only real problem for a Zerker that knows what he's doing is a tank with Shield Stun. There's no way, unless you manage to chainstun the tank over and over and over again, that you can win against those.
I've beaten BD's, Destroyers (yes, frenzied too. Swordshield and strike back ftw!), even Gladiators with my Zerker, sometimes when he was even 1 or 2 levels below the adversaries. Not to say nukers, and archers as well. And I'm far from being the PvP queen, in fact, I don't even like it. I just know my character and his skills and put some thought into strategies.
Takes a littlte landing luck (not so hard with the Zerker skills), good strategy, but it's totally possible. Saying that they're no match for tanks, I agree. Saying they're no match for melee DD's, it's completely innacurate. If you can't ever win against the melee DD's, you're not playing right.
We all agree on tanks, they are designed to take alot of hit, but again, this is not 100% chance for a tank to take down a berserker because it depend on skills landing chances.
With the next updates CT 1.5 and CT2, berserker power and skills will be improve "alot" compare to our actual power. The major improvement is about the bleeding chances/power (all others class with a bleeding skill also) will give berserker a major upgrade, because a bleeding target is a dead target to any berserker who knows playing hes class.
Zerkers, real talk, are mage killers, plain and simple. but they're no match for tanks and true melee DD's
Did you ever play a berserker? I don't think so, or you miss something about learning skills =)
Woah woah...woah, lets take a breath here. Ok.
1. Don't try to flame
2. I do indeed have a zerker
3. look at them, they have fast speed, high m def, a rushing stun, a buff to resist debuffs, a debuff to lower p def and cast speed, and knock-out skills? They are, they are indeed, MAGE KILLERS Agaisn't High Con fighters with stun and devastating attacks, they have the hardest time surviving let alone winning. They have low hp, are stun magnets, and they're stun does not effectily land and thats agains't the big fighters, agains't tanks, they're dead meat. But, mages sluaghter the fighters and zerkers destroy mages, You see the cycle here?? Rock-paper-scissors, It's a balance that NC actually got right. '
In conclusion don't try to flame if you don't think the situation through, cause you will get it :cool:.
Well, I don't flame, its just funny to see people talking about a class they have a clue. First a zerker will NEVER lower any cast speed (lmao), second Crushing pain and Contagion ignore SHIELD defense (lmaox2), so yeah, a zerker can beat a tank, its hard but doable.
No flaming, just a clear state of what a zerker is able to do against any class.
A zerker is not a dead meat, you lie :p
Well, I don't flame, its just funny to see people talking about a class they have a clue. First a zerker will NEVER lower any cast speed (lmao), second Crushing pain and Contagion ignore SHIELD defense (lmaox2), so yeah, a zerker can beat a tank, its hard but doable.
No flaming, just a clear state of what a zerker is able to do against any class.
A zerker is not a dead meat, you lie :p
LMAO Plz Show me a Zerker Killing a TANK. I love playing my Zerker on PTS but even a Glad With a Blunt can Crush any Kamael so don't even think one is going to kill a Real Tank.
Like I said Show me!
O and Nice one ValerieRose on killing a Glad but a Glad is really not a Glad till 64+ and you won't win any fights at end game with a Glad sorry :(
I take that back you won't win any fights With a Glad that was at the Keyboard during it's Leveling process :p
But I agree they can kill a lot of Melee classes just Tanks and Glads and Tryants are different. ;)
Well, I don't flame, its just funny to see people talking about a class they have a clue. First a zerker will NEVER lower any cast speed (lmao), second Crushing pain and Contagion ignore SHIELD defense (lmaox2), so yeah, a zerker can beat a tank, its hard but doable.
No flaming, just a clear state of what a zerker is able to do against any class.
A zerker is not a dead meat, you lie :p
for someone who says that I know nothing about a class you sure stand out as the most clueless so far.
first violent temper, as I stated before, lowers p def and CAST SPEED! Second crushing pain does not do enough damage to break a tank and to use contagion you have to land blade rush which has a low chance of landing on a melee fighter let alone a tank and again does not do that much of damage. They both ignore shield def yes, but shield defensive is but a small factor to the capability of the tank class. A zerker cannot beat every class, at end game, they would be lucky to defeat any class at the huge difference of power between the five original races and the kamael race. Nice try but....you got it.
LMAO Plz Show me a Zerker Killing a TANK. I love playing my Zerker on PTS but even a Glad With a Blunt can Crush any Kamael so don't even think one is going to kill a Real Tank.
Agree here. My experience with tanks is all losses. Especially DA's. Arrest and root and shieldstun are impossible. Higher con, especially if they wear majestic heavy (+ stun protection), and stun doesn't land and you're dead meat.
Plus disarm a DA or a Paladin and they laugh on your face, shield stun you and then wait till the weapon's available again. By that time, you're gone.
O and Nice one ValerieRose on killing a Glad but a Glad is really not a Glad till 64+ and you won't win any fights at end game with a Glad sorry :(
I take that back you won't win any fights With a Glad that was at the Keyboard during it's Leveling process :p
Nope. I can win on an arena. Trust me. I have.
I would make a bet with you I could beat a gladiator around my zerker's level if I knew one right now. Takes a little luck to land the stun-disarm-violent temper. Then bleed, crushing pain, contagion. Wanna bet I can beat a Glad even at End game, talking equal equips here. Not with boss jewels or OE'd weapons in one side and nothing on the other. I wouldn't have too many HP left, but I could beat a glad. I've beaten a freaking frenzied Destroyer more than once. And a Destro has a lot more con, a lot more HP and CP than a Glad.
But I agree they can kill a lot of Melee classes just Tanks and Glads and Tryants are different. ;)
Hmmm I gotta test myself against Spuddy again. Haven't tried to duel him since I was like only 60 :p
And I'll tell you again. I can beat a glad if I'm lucky to land my stun skills and my disarm. I have before. If the glad uses one of the nukes first, it's pretty much a 2-hit. Gladly the stun has a very good landing rate on PvP.
Again, people, you should all play Zerkers as your main and do tests. They're not uber like Archers or so, but if a Zerker knows exactly what he's doing, they have a chance of successfully winning a fair PvP match against most classes. Trust me.
But now, if you're not playing a main zerker, if a Zerker's your alt and you don't actually know your strategy, you're dead meat. But it makes me laugh that I'm not even a PvP person and I can still say that the only classes I wouldn't stand a chance would be tanks. I've even won fights against classes that everyone else says they're "unbeatable". Seriously, go play a Zerker as a main, test the skills, do some research, think of a strategy, then come back and talk ;) No offense to anyone in particular.
Kamaels in GENERAL are not the "one click-one-hit" class. They are too balanced to be so. Any PvP with a Kamael must be planned, there must be a strategy. If an Archer comes out of nowhere to kill a Zerker, the Zerker has no chance. Gee, if a mage comes out of nowhere to kill a Zerker, the Zerker will probably have no chance. The PvP with the Kamaels are a thought-out process and if you have the strategy to go against each class, you can win. It's not impossible. In an ideal world of everyone having the same type of gear in an Oly, for example, I could honestly surprise a lot of people with my Zerker. If I ever cared. And if I ever got there. I should have done it on the PTS, but I really don't care. I bet I could make a lot of people think of rerolling Zerkers. But oh well.
But there's no such thing. And in Oly's a poor Zerker like me that sweats the armor and weapon he has and has nothing overenchanted... No chance against the shiny, boss jeweled people.
By the way, Strike back does wonders against high-damage melee skills. Whee ;)
LMAO Plz Show me a Zerker Killing a TANK. I love playing my Zerker on PTS but even a Glad With a Blunt can Crush any Kamael so don't even think one is going to kill a Real Tank.
Agree here. My experience with tanks is all losses. Especially DA's. Arrest and root and shieldstun are impossible. Higher con, especially if they wear majestic heavy (+ stun protection), and stun doesn't land and you're dead meat.
Plus disarm a DA or a Paladin and they laugh on your face, shield stun you and then wait till the weapon's available again. By that time, you're gone.
O and Nice one ValerieRose on killing a Glad but a Glad is really not a Glad till 64+ and you won't win any fights at end game with a Glad sorry :(
I take that back you won't win any fights With a Glad that was at the Keyboard during it's Leveling process :p
Nope. I can win on an arena. Trust me. I have.
I would make a bet with you I could beat a gladiator around my zerker's level if I knew one right now. Takes a little luck to land the stun-disarm-violent temper. Then bleed, crushing pain, contagion. Wanna bet I can beat a Glad even at End game, talking equal equips here. Not with boss jewels or OE'd weapons in one side and nothing on the other. I wouldn't have too many HP left, but I could beat a glad. I've beaten a freaking frenzied Destroyer more than once. And a Destro has a lot more con, a lot more HP and CP than a Glad.
But I agree they can kill a lot of Melee classes just Tanks and Glads and Tryants are different. ;)
Hmmm I gotta test myself against Spuddy again. Haven't tried to duel him since I was like only 60 :p
And I'll tell you again. I can beat a glad if I'm lucky to land my stun skills and my disarm. I have before. If the glad uses one of the nukes first, it's pretty much a 2-hit. Gladly the stun has a very good landing rate on PvP.
Again, people, you should all play Zerkers as your main and do tests. They're not uber like Archers or so, but if a Zerker knows exactly what he's doing, they have a chance of successfully winning a fair PvP match against most classes. Trust me.
But now, if you're not playing a main zerker, if a Zerker's your alt and you don't actually know your strategy, you're dead meat. But it makes me laugh that I'm not even a PvP person and I can still say that the only classes I wouldn't stand a chance would be tanks. I've even won fights against classes that everyone else says they're "unbeatable". Seriously, go play a Zerker as a main, test the skills, do some research, think of a strategy, then come back and talk ;) No offense to anyone in particular.
Kamaels in GENERAL are not the "one click-one-hit" class. They are too balanced to be so. Any PvP with a Kamael must be planned, there must be a strategy. If an Archer comes out of nowhere to kill a Zerker, the Zerker has no chance. Gee, if a mage comes out of nowhere to kill a Zerker, the Zerker will probably have no chance. The PvP with the Kamaels are a thought-out process and if you have the strategy to go against each class, you can win. It's not impossible. In an ideal world of everyone having the same type of gear in an Oly, for example, I could honestly surprise a lot of people with my Zerker. If I ever cared. And if I ever got there. I should have done it on the PTS, but I really don't care. I bet I could make a lot of people think of rerolling Zerkers. But oh well.
But there's no such thing. And in Oly's a poor Zerker like me that sweats the armor and weapon he has and has nothing overenchanted... No chance against the shiny, boss jeweled people.
By the way, Strike back does wonders against high-damage melee skills. Whee ;)
I don't like one click and watch classes, their boring. I like classes were you must stragetically move and attack in order to win, you get the most fun out of it and a better sense of pride when you win instead of I hit one button and won, yay.
We should arrange something. Planned duel though, no attacking by surprise. Then perhaps you'll think differently. I don't promise I'll win every single duel with your Glad (Because any PvP with Zerkers depend exclusively on the skill landing rates), but I can bet you'll be surprised.
I have erk 65, and if i have maje set and resist shock, it is hard tu stun me. I can too win with tanks he give me small dmg i use cp pots. And if land bleed, that is super. And too good for pvp and too for pve are dye +STR -DEX. you have better skill power and you are so stronger in pve. I thionk that is on luck if land skills you win, and if do not land that you lose... And it in all in sholder charge, disarm, blade rush, violent temper
My Glad is 63......what lvl is your Zerker? hee hee
My 48 Zerker lost to a 61 Gladi :( but he had less than 500 HP left. I think i would have won if i was 49, then id have violent temper, and higher lvl skills. Zerk skills in C grade have a great land rate even on A graders from what ive done. Vs. Gladi i just started with SwordSheild, so i get 30 seconds of him hitting me for nothing. They cant run cause you can rush them, So then i just attacked, stunned and disarmed when he because unstunned. In C grade, i can beat 65 SH if he uses no shots ^^ With shots im a 2 shot. Same thing, skills land, so its ShoulderCharge, (having true zerker on and the +crit-pdef self buff) violent temper, attack til stuns gone, then cast disarm, and attack, when he runs, shoulder stun, rinse and repeat.
This is not end game fighting but its been fun to me ^^ I love it when people dont notice you disarmed them.
My Glad is 63......what lvl is your Zerker? hee hee
My 48 Zerker lost to a 61 Gladi :( but he had less than 500 HP left. I think i would have won if i was 49, then id have violent temper, and higher lvl skills. Zerk skills in C grade have a great land rate even on A graders from what ive done. Vs. Gladi i just started with SwordSheild, so i get 30 seconds of him hitting me for nothing. They cant run cause you can rush them, So then i just attacked, stunned and disarmed when he because unstunned. In C grade, i can beat 65 SH if he uses no shots ^^ With shots im a 2 shot. Same thing, skills land, so its ShoulderCharge, (having true zerker on and the +crit-pdef self buff) violent temper, attack til stuns gone, then cast disarm, and attack, when he runs, shoulder stun, rinse and repeat.
This is not end game fighting but its been fun to me ^^ I love it when people dont notice you disarmed them.
Some one take the Duals from that 61 Gladi. And give him a Homu with Acumen and tell him he's a Buffer with no buffs and has no rights to clam he's a Glad :p
I promise a lvl 48 zerker could last over 30 seconds vs you ^^
The only reason i came that close it because of swordshield. Without it, it would not have been pretty. And +10 BoP sounds like it wound hurt. But still, the zerker should be able to stay alive vs. melee as long as the buff is in effect. Vs. melee thats our big bonus, but its not like we can spam it, when its gone its gone and reuse time is very long. All melee can do is run away and stay out of rushing range.
Im not saying these guys can 1v1 a gladi all the time and win, cause id doubt that alot. but 1v1 with all skill being able to be used, a zerker can fight a melee well. But after that buff is gone, mages are the best target^^
It can be a Good Zerker but 48 vs 61. Come on were talking about 13 levels here. Next your going be telling me a 48 SH In C grade can take out a 61 SE in A grade. :p
Well, i beat a 6x Destroyer on Kain when i was there, with a 4x destroyer (think 43?). So sure. A 4x can beat a 6x.
And if differnt with mages. Mages spells will hit high people for 1. While melee will do damage, even if someone is 10-20 lvl higher. Not alot but you still damage.
Well, i beat a 6x Destroyer on Kain when i was there, with a 4x destroyer (think 43?). So sure. A 4x can beat a 6x.
And if differnt with mages. Mages spells will hit high people for 1. While melee will do damage, even if someone is 10-20 lvl higher. Not alot but you still damage.
I fought a 65 SE when i was 50 or 51, and that was nearly a flawless victory. I resist all the roots, and like always, my skills land.
Gee, Ashley, I should really organize something with you so you can see that Glads aren't that unbeatable against Zerkers. I agree that a lvl 48 Zerker beating a lvl 61 Glad is rather unlikely, but if you won against the Zerker around your level that easily, with the Zerker with an OE'd weapon, I'm sorry, that Zerker doesn't really know what he's doing.
I'm GMT +1. But I have very crazy playing times, so...
Just pays to be A good clan leader and when people Quit they Give you they gear. The Only Draw back is they Quit for good and never come back so you loose a good friend and a good Clan member.
I have a lot of Gear I don't even use they just Sit in the WH. But Some I have sold over the last 2 years and Just put the money in WH so yea I do have a Nice stack of money sitting in WH but the Clan hall eats some of that also.
But That's not even close to what the Bigger clans have. I had a Clan leader that Quit the Server give me a ton of matts and stuff that only knew me from the Boards never meet me personally but said I seam like a good person and wanted give me a few of the things he had......a few. Well his few was more like a ton. I made 90 mill off selling that stuff alone and I only went thou about 1/2 what he gave me.
by the way I decided to collect different Armors from D to A. No one ever gives me S grade for some reason....Just Jewelry so not going even try Collecting S grade. But that also can be the fact no one S grade has ever quit and gave me gear :p
I did get a Lot of S grade matts and Rec: thou from people transferring off the Server got love them all that donated to me <3
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62+ gladdy can OS a 48 kamael with tss when he dont have SwordSheild on.
(assuming OS means... OverShot? or OutShine! Over Stimulate?)
If a 62 gladi can kill a 48 Zerker with sword sheild on with TSS, then the zerker must have bottom NG robes on, or the Gladi must have super buffs and a scary red weapon.
Well, i beat a 6x Destroyer on Kain when i was there, with a 4x destroyer (think 43?). So sure. A 4x can beat a 6x.
And if differnt with mages. Mages spells will hit high people for 1. While melee will do damage, even if someone is 10-20 lvl higher. Not alot but you still damage.
It was a while ago (about a year or so) but if i do remember right, he was running away. And yeah, it wasnt a 1v1 3 2 1 go fight. It was me running up, attacking, few seconds go by, i assume it will be a pk, then he started swinging, scared the crap out of me. He was probly watching tv, eating a sandwitch, looks on and say "[censored], a c grader is PKing me", toss the sandwitch and attacks. He ate threw my CP, and part of my HP. (i healed 1100 hp as you can see before pic) , I landed a stun or two and right before he died he tryed to run (should have tryed to gut/frenzy). And im also sure he wasnt buffed. Our clan was under attack by his, so i saw him standing at teleport spot for a bit, so i took out my destroyer to try to go pk him while he was afk. Im sure in a fair 1v1 he would have smoked me, but either way: I was attacking, he attacked back. he could have ran from the start, bsoe (think they even had CH, so theres cheap bsoe) or killed me (i really dont see how he didnt still, if i would have owned me if i was in his shoes). Maybe he lagged, maybe he didnt. (took him a second to start hitting after stuns) Either way, yes it was a weak pvp, but in the end, i have a pretty picture to show. and a +1 to the pvp count
It was a while ago (about a year or so) but if i do remember right, he was running away. And yeah, it wasnt a 1v1 3 2 1 go fight. It was me running up, attacking, few seconds go by, i assume it will be a pk, then he started swinging, scared the crap out of me. He was probly watching tv, eating a sandwitch, looks on and say "[censored], a c grader is PKing me", toss the sandwitch and attacks. He ate threw my CP, and part of my HP. (i healed 1100 hp as you can see before pic) , I landed a stun or two and right before he died he tryed to run (should have tryed to gut/frenzy). And im also sure he wasnt buffed. Our clan was under attack by his, so i saw him standing at teleport spot for a bit, so i took out my destroyer to try to go pk him while he was afk. Im sure in a fair 1v1 he would have smoked me, but either way: I was attacking, he attacked back. he could have ran from the start, bsoe (think they even had CH, so theres cheap bsoe) or killed me (i really dont see how he didnt still, if i would have owned me if i was in his shoes). Maybe he lagged, maybe he didnt. (took him a second to start hitting after stuns) Either way, yes it was a weak pvp, but in the end, i have a pretty picture to show. and a +1 to the pvp count